Saturday, December 8, 2012

Larry Melton aka The White Rabbit writes to Sandra Good aka Blue


This letter was written by family associate Larry Melton aka "White Rabbit" to Sandra Good aka "Blue" while he was serving time, here in Texas. I think over the years, a lot of people have dismissed this letter as being nothing but fabrication. I am not so sure. Why would he have written such a letter? I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. I think that there is more to this letter than any "Tex" tapes will ever reveal. What do you think? (By the way, I don't want anyone to think I am ripping off other people's "finds", so I will give credit where credit is due. I found this letter on the Zodiac/Manson connection website.) Anyway, here it is:

http://www.thezodiacmansonconnection.com/white_rabbitt_letter.html





55 comments:

Doc Sierra said...

I've met both of these guys. Melton, in my opinion, is a big fat liar. I spent about a half hour talking to him and my impression is that if he even knew the Manson family he was just on the fringes and he was not part of the inner circle.
The other guy in the photo is Dr. Howard Davis. Davis is convinced that Bruce Davis is the Zodiac Killer. He seems to believe everything that Melton tells him and Melton, in my opinion seems to string him along.
Here's a link to Melton's page on Texas' Megan's Law https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_WEB/SorNew/PublicSite/index.aspx?PageIndex=Individual&IND_IDN=4736748&SearchType=Name
He did time for possession of child pornography.
Does anyone know Dr. Davis? I just wonder what his credentials are. I've tried to find out what subject his doctorate is in and couldn't find anything.

Lauren Webster said...

Doc that's interesting you met them, how did you end up getting to Interact with Melton? I remember Col used to rip on Melton all the time it was actually quite amusing. May someone refresh me on how Melton might have involvement/ claims he knows the family? It's been a while since I've heard his name, kinda forgot about him.

william marshall said...

I'd Like us all to remember 32 years ago today we Lost John Lennon at the Dakota building where Rosmarys Baby was filmed
R.I.P John

Doc Sierra said...

Lauren Webster said...

Doc that's interesting you met them, how did you end up getting to Interact with Melton? I remember Col used to rip on Melton all the time it was actually quite amusing. May someone refresh me on how Melton might have involvement/ claims he knows the family? It's been a while since I've heard his name, kinda forgot about him.
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About 8 or 9 years ago I met them at a gathering of Zodiac Killer buffs. Dr. Davis was very pleasant to talk to. I don't believe in his theory about Bruce Davis but he was interesting to talk to. Melton however, seemed to tell people anything they wanted to hear to get attention.
Melton claims to have been with the family at Barker ranch and claims to have witnessed a murder there.

LoLo said...

His mug shots are creepy!

DebS said...

Doc Sierra Howard Davis's doctorate is in Philosophy. He does practice alternative medicine however. He has a company that formulates homeopathic remedies for his own line of products as well as for clients.

Bing said...

Melton is so full of shit he squeaks

As well as losing John Lennon 32 years ago we also lost "Dimebag" Darell Abbott The Guitarist for Pantera 8 years ago today. He was murderd on sage by a derranged fan

Lauren Webster said...

Also what did Sandy say about Melton? I know she said a lot about Nelson.

Doc Sierra said...

I met Sandy but we didn't talk about Melton. She's a nice lady.

Doc Sierra said...

DebS said...

Doc Sierra Howard Davis's doctorate is in Philosophy. He does practice alternative medicine however. He has a company that formulates homeopathic remedies for his own line of products as well as for clients.
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Doctorate in philosophy. That suits him. He seems very intelligent.

Lauren Webster said...

Wow Doc, I must say Im rather jealous of how you meet all these people!

Sun King said...

Having also met White Rabbitt I feel he is delusional and mentally impaired.

As many interested in the Manson case, Melton had an extensive Manson library collection which is where he learned a lot of the facts about the case.

The letter is just White Rabbitt's attempt to inject himself into the case and is totally BS.

Lauren Webster said...

Wow, so its basically its as if one of us says we were in the family?

Sun King said...

"Lauren Webster said...

Wow, so its basically its as if one of us says we were in the family?"

Pretty much. Though there is a story that he possibly made one trip to Spahn for a day.

But it seems that he is just a wanna be family member and makes all this stuff up to be "cool" and attract attention to himself. It didn't help that someone like Howard tried to give him credibility.

Lauren Webster said...

Did Nelson side with him?

Sun King said...

I believe Bill Nelson was just as curious as any of us would be at the stories and may have been a believer until after the Death Valley escapade.

Lauren Webster said...

Oh wow. Thanks so much for answering my questions!

orwhut said...

No matter what people say about White Rabbitt, he keeps going and going.

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Lauren Webster said...

Wow Doc, I must say Im rather jealous of how you meet all these people!
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It's just one of the perks of living in California. By the way, how are your finals coming along? What are the subjects?

Lauren Webster said...

My subjects are Psychology(my major), Western Civilization, "Critical Reading and Writing"(basically a class where we have to write papers on annoying science fiction books and learn about arguments, dreadful class!) and Philosophy.

Doc Sierra said...

Lauren Webster said...

My subjects are Psychology(my major), Western Civilization, "Critical Reading and Writing"(basically a class where we have to write papers on annoying science fiction books and learn about arguments, dreadful class!) and Philosophy.
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Psychology was my favorite subject in college. One of my daughters is Psych major and intends to work for the FBI.

Lauren Webster said...

Thats awesome! Criminal psychology really interests me as well!

Panamint Patty said...

@ Lauren: cool! Good luck on your tests. Patty likes forensics but she's majoring in Clinical Lab Science. At her age? Yeah, she just doesn't know when to quit.

@Doc, didn't White Rabbit hang out in the Haight and try to sell his "artwork" in the 90's? Patty thinks she remembers that.

Doc Sierra said...
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Doc Sierra said...

Patty said:
@Doc, didn't White Rabbit hang out in the Haight and try to sell his "artwork" in the 90's? Patty thinks she remembers that.
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I don't know about artwork but he was trying to sell a book that he wrote. The last that I heard some people sent him money for the book and didn't receive it. And yes, back in the early 2000s he was hanging out in the Haight. When I met him I didn't want to make him feel bad but I wouldn't shake his hand for sanitary reasons.

Sun King said...

It was more of a manuscript than a book and I suspect that he didn't write it without some assistance.

If anyone is interested in reading it let me know.

Lauren Webster said...

@ Patty: Thanks so much! And thats awesome, you're never too old to reach your goals, besides you dont look old at all!!

@ Sun King and Doc: http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/03/white-sad-sack-of-shit.html

heres an interesting post by The Col about the book. Look at his marker-drawn X in his mugshot.

candy and nuts said...

I used to talk to Rabbit even on the phone a few times-this about 3 yrs ago-I asked him why he had some fake "Devils witches Armageddon vest" he showing as real-he said ya I know its not a real one-weird-else he seems like he just wants to be remembered for something even if it was just some goof ball he was hangin at Spahns

candy and nuts said...

Speaking of Bill Nelson -is that book about TEX worth the money and time-? Also Susan Atkins has a new book on Amazon called the Myth of Helter Skelter anyone read it Im thinking of ordering it-:X

Stacey L. said...

Patty- you are not old at all.

Bing said...



Speaking of Bill Nelson -is that book about TEX worth the money and time-? Also Susan Atkins has a new book on Amazon called the Myth of Helter Skelter anyone read it Im thinking of ordering it-:X


Candy you can read the first chapter of that book on susan's website http://www.susanatkins.org/03-Stories.html

The whole book was posted their for a long time. I read it and enjoyed it. She basically claims it all started because Charlie was Paranoid over the lottsapopa shooting and evreything kinda snowballed out of that paranoia.

I think it is worth checking out

Bing said...



Speaking of Bill Nelson -is that book about TEX worth the money and time-? Also Susan Atkins has a new book on Amazon called the Myth of Helter Skelter anyone read it Im thinking of ordering it-:X


Candy you can read the first chapter of that book on susan's website http://www.susanatkins.org/03-Stories.html

The whole book was posted their for a long time. I read it and enjoyed it. She basically claims it all started because Charlie was Paranoid over the lottsapopa shooting and evreything kinda snowballed out of that paranoia.

I think it is worth checking out

Shak El said...

There was a story on Sandra Goods old ATWA site about W.R. She basically said he came to the ranch one time after the arrests and during the trial period. He was invited by Gypsie but upon arrival was given the old cold shoulder and asked to leave.

Panamint Patty said...

As I recall, AC also remembers White Rabbit from Michigan in the 1970's. Check out the interview with AC that is retrievable from the right sidebar on the home page.

WR's "artwork" were scribbles on lined notepaper that he had photocopied, and then would sign for suckers with a ballpoint pen. She saw WR hocking his wares on Haight Street many years back before she knew "who" he was. On Haight Street, he just kind of blended in with the other freaks.

Lauren and Stacey, thanks for making Patty feel not quite so ancient. Her gouty right foot, however, begs to differ.

orwhut said...

I wonder how much money Rabbitt has made doing his Manson thing over the years?

Sun King said...

orwhut said...
I wonder how much money Rabbitt has made doing his Manson thing over the years?
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Pocket change for food, copy costs, bus tickets etc.
He was not getting rich lol!

orwhut said...

Sun King said...
Pocket change for food, copy costs, bus tickets etc. He was not getting rich lol!

Oh well. Pocket change is better than no change.

Doc Sierra said...

Panamint Patty said...
@ Lauren: cool! Good luck on your tests. Patty likes forensics but she's majoring in Clinical Lab Science. At her age? Yeah, she just doesn't know when to quit.
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Wow, Clinical Lab Science? Tough classes. I struggled with Chemistry, Microbiology, Anatomy and Physiology. You must be smart and driven.

Doc Sierra said...

Sun King said...

It was more of a manuscript than a book and I suspect that he didn't write it without some assistance.

If anyone is interested in reading it let me know.
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Hi Sun King, I would be interested in reading it. Anybody else?

Sun King said...

Doc Sierra said...
Hi Sun King, I would be interested in reading it. Anybody else?
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Hey Doc- I can send it to to one of the Evil Liz team to pass on or give me an e-mail where I can send it.




Doc Sierra said...

209doc@gmail.com
Thanks Sun King......

toocrowdedinthishouse said...

I always thought that Melton writes as if he reads everything about the case that he can possibly get his hands on, then says "I was there," and retells the story, after inserting himself. Just a gut feeling I got after reading some of his stuff that contained some serious name-dropping. It just did not ring true. But perhaps he actually believes he was there. According to Sandra Good's account, he once did visit the Spahn, but the girls did not like the way he looked/acted, so they sent him away soon after his arrival.

andy said...

candy and nuts said...
Speaking of Bill Nelson -is that book about TEX worth the money and time-? Also Susan Atkins has a new book on Amazon called the Myth of Helter Skelter anyone read it Im thinking of ordering it-:X

bill nelsons book is good. for as lame of a person as he may have been, his knowledge about this case and the family in general was top notch.
As for Susans book (i had written to Matt and Liz about this not too long ago) i find it VERY interesting. As a matter of fact a lot of it comes off as more believable then most books on the family and the murders. I dont know if its true or whatever. but really she says some stuff, that to me at least,is mind blowing. shes really the first to finally say that helter skelter wasnt the motive. i guess no one believes what she says or id think this book wouldve gotten a lot more coverage on the blogs and forums.

Lauren Webster said...

Speaking of Manson books, has anyone here read Manson In His Own Words? I read excerpts from it, and despite the fact that we all know Manson was paraphrased, it has a lot of interesting stories about how he met each girl individually and his take on them. His story about Ruth was really interesting.

Sun King said...

Lauren Webster said...
Speaking of Manson books, has anyone here read Manson In His Own Words?
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Yea, it was a good book though its been over a decade since I've read it.

A couple other favorites of mine are:
Manson Behind the Scenes- Bill Nelson
My Life with Charles Manson- Paul Watkins

Watkins gave a good insight into the family and Nelson brought up some interesting tid bits and facts that weren't really written about previously.

beauders said...

rabbit was too much of a freak even for the manson family. and yes rabbit seems to have memorized helter skelter and the family and inserts himself in all the action. he used to actually quote both books as his memory but got called on it so many times he started mixing things up.
as for the books read them all, every one of them has something to offer even if just for background knowledge for posting on blogs.

candy and nuts said...

thanks all for the book advise,,,

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orwhut said...

Lauren,
Manson In His Own Words, is the book that got me intrested in the case.

Unknown said...

Melton is, umm, less than bright. On another forum, he insisted that he was wronged or owed money because someone quoted him in a book or article or something.

Liberty said...

Having known Larry for a short period of time, I don't give him much credibility. ..he turned into a pseudo stalker..lol

Doc Sierra said...

Lauren Webster said...

Doc that's interesting you met them, how did you end up getting to Interact with Melton? I remember Col used to rip on Melton all the time it was actually quite amusing. May someone refresh me on how Melton might have involvement/ claims he knows the family? It's been a while since I've heard his name, kinda forgot about him.
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I met Melton at the first Zodiac Task Force meeting at Blue Rock Springs in Vallejo, ca. If you look it up on you tube there are some still photographs of me there. I think I had on a maroon t-shirt and olive shorts.
I've met Howard a few times. The first time, we had been corresponding via telephone and mail when I lived in Sacramento. I think it was in 2002 or 2003 Howard, Ed Neil, and I met at Moskowitez Corner. After a few minutes of checking each other out we agreed to drive together to the site of the Hartnell/Shepherd attack at Lake Berryessa. Howard is a very intelligent and kind man. So kind that he doesn't seem to see the homeless guy that's been milking him for bogus information. Then again, I haven't talked to Howard in probably at least 10 years so maybe he's on to this guy now.

Doc Sierra said...

Hi Lauren. I met Melton at the first Zodiac Task Force meeting at Blue Rock Springs park in Vallejo, CA. I think that was in 2002 or 2003. I already knew DR.Howard Davis and Ed Neil from a year or two before at our Lake Berryessa meeting at the site of the Hartnell/Shepherd attack.
My take on Melton is that if there was a week old sandwich on the line he would probably confess to the Black Dhalia murder, the JFK and RFK asassinations and anything else he thoght you would like to hear. I never want to see a hungry American so like a lot of homeless people, I would give him a little cash or something to eat but I would have my BS filter on high power.

Doc Sierra said...

Lauren Webster said...
Wow Doc, I must say Im rather jealous of how you meet all these people!
December 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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Well Lauren, I grew up in the SF Bay Area and spent 19 years living in Sacramento. I spent a little more than two years stationed at MCAS El Toro in Orange County (just south of LA County). My buddy Stephen and I decided to take a drive to see the Tate house and the LaBianca house With a combination of these things along with studying the case since 1987 and being an avid reader at the time I was bound to meet some of the people who for the most part are caring, kind, intelligent and eager to share information