Thursday, January 31, 2013

Animal House! Charles Manson In High School???

...Anyway, the point is that Harold and Doug wrote a script that was basically "Charles Manson in high school." I did read that one and it did have some brilliant stuff in it but it was too outrageous. It could probably get made now. But it had one of my favorite openings of a movie ever. The exterior of that prison and the camera moves into this fortress prison and through the thick walls and down the hallways and it's this brutal fortress to keep people in and you go deeper and deeper into this fortress prison until you get to this heavily barred and gated doors and into a padded doorway into a padded cell and in the corner is this man in a straight jacket and you move deeper and deeper in until you see that it's Charles Manson with the hair and the swastika carved into his forehead. And he looks at the camera and says, "Is it hot in here or am I crazy?" It went on from there.

When Doug and Harold turned in that script, Matty went, "Holy Shit!" So he said, "You can't have all this gangrape stuff. Put it in college!" [laughs] And at that point they brought in Chris Miller, because Chris Miller wrote a whole series of pieces for National Lampoon about his fraternity experiences at Dartmouth. So they were all at Ivy League schools in 1962 and they wrote "Animal House."...

Wednesday, January 30, 2013

The Pros & Cons of releasing Bruce Davis


So, what are the pros & cons of releasing Bruce Davis into society after 40 years? Let us make a quick list to weigh in the key issues, shall we?


1. He is 70 years old (low changes of recidivism)
2. Became a born-again Christian in prison, and preaches to other inmates (doesn't mean shit)
3. Has earned a master's degree AND docorate while incarcerated (an educated murderer)
4. Claims that he works to help other people to make good choices, and to have spiritual connections (rolling my eyes)
5. Has attended numerous self-help classes over the years (yawn)
6. I can't think of anything else (this is what comments are for)


1. Was involved in two brutal, and violent crimes
2. Has been present when others died (Zero, possibly others)
3. Continued being in denial for many years after the murders
4. Continued a "friendship" with good ol "Tex" behind bars
5. Very good chance that he is responsible for other deaths
6. Lied for years about his actual involvement
7. Is really creepy-looking (just an opinion)

Now, what will Governor Brown do? Do you think he might use my list to decide? More importantly, what do our readers think? I know I am missing a lot more stuff. I just can't think clearly right now. Just getting ove the flu. Comments? I know one individual who will defintely find time out of his busy schedule to give his opinions on the issue.

anson follower who has spent more than 40 years in prison

Nancy Pitman and Michael Monfort After Their Release From Prison For the Willetts Murders

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Nancy's parents purchased a home in Napa CA for the couple to live in after Nancy was released from prison.  I spoke to a retired Napa police officer who told me that Duncan and Joanne lived in the home for a while with Nancy's oldest child.  After Nancy's release from serving time for Lauren Willetts murder she eventually established residence there.  

The police officer also told me that he lived on the same street and informally was asked to keep an eye on the Monforts during the time they lived there.  He said that they did not live there under the name of Monfort but were allowed to stay there under an assumed name.  The officer could not remember, or did not want to tell me, the assumed name.

Once Monfort's parole was finished they were out of there and the house was sold. 

Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Natural Born Killers: Whose ratings were higher?

I have a television show. It's very popular. Every week we do a profile on a different serial killer. You don't mind if I call you a serial killer, do you?

Mickey shakes his head no.

The episode we did on Mickey and Mallory was one of our most popular ones.

Did you ever do one on John Wayne Gacy?


Whose ratings were higher?


How 'bout Ted Bundy? Ever do one on him?


Whose ratings were higher?


Good... yuppie piece of shit.

What I'd like to do --

How 'bout Manson?

Manson beat you.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to beat the king.

Monday, January 28, 2013

Mary Brunner

Thank You, Racestarr, for the pic...

Sunday, January 27, 2013

Spanking: art, or pornography, or both?

Patty had the opportunity to check out a cool retrospective on artist Norman Rockwell this past week. She could not help but notice after all the recent hullabaloo about Bobby and his pervy wife that Rockwell has several paintings depicting children being spanked or with their pants down:

So, this is not pornography because of the intent of the artist? Surely there are those out there who get their rocks off on innocent stuff like this. But we accept this as art nonetheless.  Interesting, no?

Saturday, January 26, 2013


 There is a lot you don’t know about Eviliz personally.  For example, Eviliz rarely talks in the third person like Panamint Patty does.  And-Eviliz digs Kathie Lee Gifford (and Panamint Patty I guess too).  Go ahead and laugh about it but keep in mind you are about to benefit from Kathie’s book titled ~
“Just When I Thought I Dropped My Last Egg.” 
From the chapter titled One Degree of Separation Anxiety.

It’s become a joke in the hair and makeup room at the Today Show  that I have about one degree of separation from pretty much anything on the planet.  
  Something will come up on the t.v monitor, and I’ll say, “Well back in ’62 I was….” and inevitably there’s some weird linkage.  We’ll, I’ll take weird linkage any day over weird leakage, but that’s another essay.
  Anyway it’s well established among my colleagues that I have lived along time, met a lot of awful interesting people, and found myself in way too many strange situations.
  The other day we were all getting ready for the show when suddenly someone being interview mentioned the possibility that there were yet more victims of the Charles Manson family, long buried somewhere at his ranch in the desert.  Everyone looked at me and waited.  At first I pretended I hadn’t heard the t.v. 
“Well?”  Hoda goaded.  I hesitated. 
“Finally!”  Somebody laughed.  “No degree of separation.”
I cleared my throat.  “Actually….”
“NO!”  They all screamed.  They couldn’t believe I could somehow have a connection to Charles Manson. 
I can’t believe it myself but I do.
Let me take you back in time….
  I’m not exactly sure what year it was, but it was definitely sometime in the late seventies. 
  Michie (her sister) and I did a lot of gospel singing back then.  One day I got a call from a wonderful man, Chaplin Ray, who had a very successful prison ministry.  He told me that he and Pat Boone were going to tape a television special at the Men’s Penal Colony in San Luis Obispo, California.    He asked if Michie and I would want to join them and perform a few songs.
  I checked with Mich, we checked our calendars, and I called Chaplin Ray and accepted his invitation.
  Michie got there first.  I was scheduled to fly in the next day.
So I was anxious to hear how it was going.  She took a long time calling to give me an update, and I began to worry.
Finally the phone rang.  It was Michie.
“Okay, there’s good news and bad news,” she said.
“What’s the good news?”  I asked.
“I went through the worst thunder storms you can possibly imagine.  The plane almost crashed and I almost died.”
“Wow.”  I said.  “What’s the bad news?”
Michie hesitated.
“The bad news is I lived and now Tex Watson is my bodyguard.”
‘WHAT!”  I SCREAMED.  “Tex Watson, the Texas kid who is actually the one who butchered every single victim in the Manson murders.”
I couldn’t believe it.
I still couldn’t believe it.
“Oh my God, Mich- are you all right?”
“Oh yeah,”  she answered.  “He’s really nice.”
“NICE?”  I am getting on the next plane out and I am coming to get you right now.”
  I hung up the phone and busted my butt getting to the airport, praying the whole way.
  How could this have happened?  I mean, Chaplain Ray had mentioned Pat Boone, whom some people find scary, but he had somehow neglected to mention that one of the worst mass murders in the history of the world was going to be our bodyguard?
  I mean, Tex Watson is no Kevin Costner.  That’s who I think of when the word “bodyguard” comes to mind.
  Now I was losing my mind.  But the worst was yet to come.    When my plane touched down in San Luis Obispo, it was 114 degrees Fahrenheit.  Michie and I had been asked to wear clothes that were in no way provocative- heaven forbid we look enticing to any of the twenty four hundred maximum security inmates.
  I met Mich at the hotel.  She seemed okay and informed me that Tex Watson had been raised in a deeply devout home in Texas, but had gotten into all kinds of crazy drugs when he’d come to California to “find himself.”  Instead, he’d found Charles Manson and had found himself serving multiple life sentences for seven horrendous murders.
  Apparently in prison he’d also found God.  As Mich and I entered the security gate, I was praying that this part was at least partially true.  We were searched and were asked to leave everything we’d brought (purse, etc.) at the entrance.  No lip gloss allowed.
I cannot describe the suffocating heat, made worse by the polygamy-cult style dresses Mich and I were wearing.
  It turns out that meeting Tex Watson was the easiest part of the day.  The worst came a few hours later when Chaplain Ray, Pat Boone, Tex Watson, and Michie and I were standing on stage for the finale. 
  The warden and his wife were sitting in the front row, and twenty four hundred of the unhappiest men you can imagine were screaming (Eviliz almost peed her pretty pink panties after reading this-).
‘SING HELTER SKELTER’! in the bleachers.  (AHHHHHHH---LMAO)
By now it had been close to 120 degrees inside the prison.
Most of the inmates had taken of much of their clothing and were either fanning themselves or masturbating in front of us.  (Wtf?)  I guess those dresses turned them on.  Who knew?
  Anyway, it was almost over, when suddenly the unthinkable happened : (How could it possibly get any worse?)
  We were completely in the dark, and the only thing I wasn’t afraid of was Tex Watson.
  You sort of go into a weird Twilight Zone mode when something like this happens.  I looked at the warden and suddenly realized how truly precarious the situation was.  He was terrified.  His wife was apoplectic.  I actually squeezed Tex’s hand for support!  I looked at Michie, and she looked at me.  We were both thinking the same thing.  “I don’t want to die in this dress.”
  Now for one hour that was a distinct possibility.
  So you ask, what did we do?  Well, I’ll tell you what we did.  We all stood there on the stage, hand in hand, soaked in fear and sweat, (No miss fired semen?  I am surprised.) and sang “What a Friend We Have in Jesus.”
That’s exactly what we did.
  It had never been my favorite hymn before, but it became my favorite hymn that very day, I promise.
  Suddenly as quick as the power went out, the power came back on. 
  The warden and his wife were rushed out of the auditorium, and so, somehow, were we.  I can’t remember what happened next, nor do I want to.
  But I do recall Tex wrote me several times afterward, asking me to speak for him when he came up for parole.  He deserved to stay in prison for the rest of his life for the terrible suffering he’d cause.
  He finally stopped asking, got married, had conjugal visits with his wife, and ended up fathering several children.  He still works in the Chaplain ministry and by all accounts has been a model prisoner. 
  Pat Boone went out to enjoy a long and illustrious career.
  Chaplain Ray continued his magical mystery tour through America’s prisons.
  Michie moved out of California.
And me?
I got out of gospel music.
It’s just too dangerous.
P.S. They should change the name of the prison to the Men’s Penile Colony.

And Eviliz?  Well she still can’t stop laughing after picturing/reading the whole ordeal.

Friday, January 25, 2013

Robert Evans writes about Sharon Tate's murder

I am currently reading Robert Evans autobiography entitled "The Kid Stays In The Picture." He writes about being close friends with Roman Polanski, and explains, in detail how he found out about the murders on Cielo Drive. Here is an excerpt:

"Bob," said Sharon Tate, "the baby is kicking!"
"How does it feel?"
"It's the best feeling in the world."
"I'll tell Roman."
"While you're at it, tell him he'd better be home for his birthday. Remember, it's the eighteenth."
"He'll be here, baby."

Just about the only really happily married couple I knew in Hollywood were Roman Polanski, and Sharon Tate. Coming from a childhood horror in Nazi-occupied Poland, Roman couldn't believe he was the husband of this milk-fed American beauty. Sharon's movie career was just beginning to heat up after Valley of the Dolls. In Roman's eyes she was already the brightest star in the world. Around his gentle, sun-kissed bride he was like a child who's just seen his first Christmas tree light up.
(Robert Evans talks about traveling back to L.A. from London)

Before I took off for L.A., Roman said, "Look after Sharon for me, will you Bob?" "Tell her I love her." "I'll be home in a few days."

Now Sharon was on the phone from the house they were renting on Cielo Drive, up in Benedict Canyon. She loved feeling the baby kick, but she felt cooped up. How about joining her, and a few friends on Friday night? It would just be her house guests, Gibby Folger, of the San Francisco coffee family, and Gibby's boyfriend, Wojiciech "Voytek" Frykowski, a Polish rogue, and great friend of Roman's. Dinner at a nothing place like El Coyote on Beverly.

"Sounds great, baby. I'm working in the editing room. I might be a little late." At nine o'clock on Friday, August 8, 1969, I was still in the editing room. I called Sharon. "I'm stuck, baby. Count me out. Sorry."

"Don't be silly, Bob. I can always get Jay." Jay was the star hairdresser Jay Sebring, an ex-boyfriend who was still devoted to her. "Sweet dreams." "You too."

(He then goes on about having a meeting the next morning at his house with the head of Paramount Studios, Charlie Bluhdorn.)

When we returned to my house on Woodland Drive, David, my major domo, was standing at the door. Joyce Haber, the L.A. Times columnist, was on the phone. Bluhdorn frowned.
"I thought I said no calls this morning, David."

"She said it's urgent, Mr. Evans. She sounds terrible."

I took the call in my bedroom. When she heard my voice, Joyce started wailing. "You aren't dead!"

"You aren't dead!" "Joyce, what are you talking about? Of course I'm not dead!"

"You didn't hear?" "Hear what?" "It's on the radio. Last night at Sharon and Roman's house on Cielo.

They're all dead....."

"What are you talking about?"

"They're all dead."

"Joyce, what is this?"

"Sharon, Jay Sebring, Gibby Folger, that Polish Voytek what's-his-name...."

"I know. I was supposed to be there."

"They've all been killed!"

My body went numb. "A landslide?" "No, they were murdered-some kind of massacre."

"Joyce, are you making this up? From the sound of her voice, I knew she wasn't. "What about the baby?"

She couldn't go on. Charlie Bluhdorn had been pacing my living room impatiently, "Come on, Evans," he said when I walked in. "Let's go outside and get started." "I can't, I can't, Charlie." I started to cry.

He came over, and put his arm around me. "What is it, Bob?" "What happened?"

I told him what happened, and we went out to sit under the tree. When Roman arrived from London, I arranged for him to be driven to Paramount, and installed in the suite that had recently been Julie Andrew's dressing room for Darling Lili. There, he hibernated for a few days, heavily sedated by a Paramount doctor. Not wanting to leave him alone at Paramount, Roman moved into my guest house. Sounds simple; it wasn't. Every crackpot in the state wanted to get a jab in. It necessitated having around-the-clock guards for the duration of his stay. The LAPD put their own tap on my phone, which became an integral instrument in their investigation. How I remember cradling Roman as if he were a child. I loved him. I felt his pain Even though criticized, I went the extra nine yards, doing whatever I could, whatever to ease his suffering. Though I could do little, at least I was there.

The horrific murders of Sharon, and her friends by the insane followers of Charles Manson sent a shock wave through Hollywood that is still felt today. What made them even uglier was the media orgy of lies, all of which came down to one outrageous innuendo: because of their "decadence," the victims had somehow brought it on themselves. Typical was a Newsweek story calling the massacre not a tragedy, but a "fascinating whodunit" and reporting, among other ridiculous speculations, that the murders might have "resulted from a ritual mock execution that got out of hand in the glare of hallucinogens." The press even implicated Roman. It didn't matter that he was six thousand miles away when the tragedy occurred. Somehow the "master of the macabre" had to have been involved.

Roman's good friends-Warren Beatty, Richard Sylbert, I and a few others-took turns keeping him company. Roman threw himself into helping the police investigation, and with incredible strength he got through it. Many of the biggest names in Hollywood turned out for Sharon's funeral. Later, Roman wrote that "it was like some ghastly movie premiere."

Leaving Holy Cross Cemetery, he said something that would come back to haunt me: "The only one of Sharon's good friends who didn't come, Bob, is Steve McQueen. Sharon loved that cold son of a bitch."

Thursday, January 24, 2013

Justices Deny Van Houten's Habeas Corpus Petition

"In other conference action, the justices:

Denied review of the summary denial, by this district’s Div. One, of the most recent habeas corpus petition by Manson family member Leslie Van Houten. Van Houten, now 63, was 19—the youngest of the defendants—at the time of what have become known as the Tate/LaBianca murders.

Van Houten admitted her involvement in the August 1969 murders of Leno and Rosemary La Bianca in their Cielo Drive home. One day earlier, actress Sharon Tate and four others were murdered at the home Tate rented with her husband, director Roman Polanski, who was in Europe at the time.

Van Houten was convicted of the La Bianca murders. She was not present during the Tate murders but was convicted of conspiracy to commit them.

Rosemary La Bianca was stabbed a total of 42 times, and Van Houten said at various times that she had herself stabbed the woman 14 or 16 times. Another Manson Family member testified that Van Houten admitted stabbing La Bianca after she was already dead and said “the more she did it the more fun it was.”

She has now been denied parole 19 times."

Bizarre 'Nomads' Held in Slaying

San Francisco Chronicle December 2, 1969 - front page

United PressLos Angeles

A man and two women described as members of a nomadic desert commune were identified yesterday as suspects in the bizarre murders of actress Sharon Tate and four other persons August 9.

Police Chief Edward Davis told newsmen that the suspects were part of a "roving band of hippies" who also allegedly killed a middle-aged couple one day later across town from the luxurious home of Miss Tate in Benedict Canyon.

Warrants were issued for Charles D. Watson, 24, now in custody in McKinney, Tex., and two women suspects. Patricia Kernwinkel, 21, was arrested yesterday in Mobile, Ala., and Linda Kasabian, age unknown, is being hunted in New Mexico.

Watson was taken into custody Sunday night. Sheriff Tom Montgomery of Collin county at McKinney said, "You could kinda say he walked in and gave himself up." The suspect was described in Texas as clean-shaven and neat, although Los Angeles police said he was long-haired and bearded while living in the desert commune.

Davis said it is expected that four or five other persons will be indicted for the murders next week.
The other suspects are said to be in custody in Inyo county, where 26 young men and women accused of living a roving life of thievery were rounded up by a sheriff's posse.

Davis confirmed that the Tate murders were linked to the slayings of a wealthy owner of a small grocery chain and his wife in the Silverlake district of Los Angeles a day later.

There were gruesome similarities between the two cases. The word "pig" was smeared in blood on the front door of the Tate residence. The words "death to pigs" were written in blood on a refrigerator door at the home of Leon and Rosemary La Bianca. The word "war" was carved on La Bianca's chest.
Davis said members of the commune were living at the Spawn movie ranch, and abandoned movie set northwest of Los Angeles, at the time of the murders. Then they moved to the Barker ranch in Death Valley.


Deputies said the group seemed to operate as an updated Indian-type raiding party - traveling in dune buggies, living in abandoned mining shacks, stealing as they went.

They roamed by night and posted lookouts equipped with walkie-talkies during the day. The men wore shoulder-length hair. At the time of the raids, some of the girls were clad only in bikini bottoms and others were nude.

Sheriff's deputies, guided by a spotter plane, picked up 15 youths near Badwater October 10. Six more women and five more men were arrested October 12 in a raid on the same camp.

Two babies were taken to Inyo county hospital for treatment for malnutrition. At the time, the suspects were booked on suspicion of auto theft, receiving stolen property, possession of a sawed-off shotgun and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Davis said the names of additional suspects in custody in Inyo county, site of Death Valley, will be given to the county grand jury sometime before December 9.


The motive for the slayings remains a mystery. Davis said the victims did not know the suspects, although evidence indicated that the killers had visited the home leased by Miss Tate and her husband, Roman Polanski, before the killings.

"It had all the earmarks of premeditation," Davis said.

He said all the suspects were members of what could be called a "commune," and the group might have been a religious one," depending on your definition of religion."

The Tate slayings appeared to be the outcome of a weird religious rite, police investigators said during the initial stages of the investigation. Later, they dropped that theory.

In addition to Miss Tate, 26, who was eight months pregnant, the victims were Abigail Folger, 26, San Francisco, heiress to the Folger coffee fortune; Jay Sebring, 35, Hollywood innovator of hair styling for men and once Miss Tate's fiance;

Voityck Frokowsky, 37, who worked with Polanski in Polish films, and Steven Earl Parent, 18, of suburban El Monte, who had been visiting a caretaker at the estate.

Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Update on Prettyface: The Movie

A couple of years ago, there were, like eight hundred moves about The Family in pre production, none of which have yet come to fruition.  It appears that "Prettyface" may be gaining some traction with slick new movie posters, a website and facebook page though IMDB says it is still "in production:" 
Think it will happen? Go to and see what you think...

Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Charles Manson Low Risk

"What do Scott Peterson, Sirhan Sirhan and Charles Manson have in common besides murder?  They are all classified as "low risk" offenders by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation."

I think this article speaks to the very real possibility that Bruce Davis will be paroled.  It also highlights the politics of the parole situation.

Monday, January 21, 2013

Steve McQueen A Biography Part 2 of 2

The final post from "Steve McQueen A Biography" by Marc Eliot.

I previously posted one write up at-

Not being a big Steve McQueen fan I didn't read the entire book, just the chapters pertaining to the murders.  I am sure everyone knows Steve and Jay were very tight friends.  The book reflects on their friendship built on womanizing, drugs, plus a few hair cuts.  Sharon and Voytek are mentioned in a few more other places as well.  Also mentioned in the book is the "guest list" for the night of August 9th at Cielo Drive is mentioned.

I personally found nothing new or exciting in the book but wanted to share it with you all.

On the afternoon of Thursday August 7th, Sebring went to Steve’s house to give him a trim.  Afterwards they went for some Mexican food at El Coyote in Hollywood.  While they ate Sebring told him there was a little soiree planned for the next night at Sharon Tate’s rented house up at Cielo Drive and that Steve should come.  Tate had since married film maker Roman Polanski but kept Jay and others from her single days close at hand.  Polanski didn’t seem to mind.  He wasn’t a very jealous man and believed that he and Sharon were so in love that nobody could possible pose a threat.  Nonetheless everyone who knew Sebring and Tate believed they were still in love and still carrying on.

Tate’s acting career was moving along nicely; Polanski had used her in 1967’s The Fearless Vampire Killers and married her a year later, and her career as a magazine model was equally hot until her pregnancy began to show.  She was in her eighth month which kept her more housebound then she would of liked.  While Polanski was off in England scouting for locations for what he thought would be his next movie Day of the Dolphin with his friend Warren Beatty and production designer Richard Sulbert and the woman Polanski was having an affair with Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas.  Tate had regular soirees at her home.  The next one was scheduled for that Friday night.  Steve happened to run into Robert Vaughn.  The two chatted for awhile and Steve invited him to come along that night to Tate’s place up on Cielo Drive.  Vaughn politely declined; he had other business he needed to take care of.

Still later Steve received a call from a young and beautiful blonde he had been seeing.  He invited her as well but she told him she had a better idea for just the two of them.  Early Saturday morning the mutilated bodies of Sharon Tate, coffee heiress Abigail Folger, Voytek Frykowski and Jay Sebring were discovered by the housekeeper.  Sebring had been stabbed seven times and shot in the head.  The news spread through L.A. like a firestorm.  When Steve heard about it he immediately arranged to have someone go to Sebring’s house and clean out all the drugs, sexual paraphernalia. And anything else he knew his friend would not of wanted anyone to find (of that could possibly tie Steve to Sebrings life style).  Sebring was known as something on an S&M freak around town and Steve did not want any of that turned into fodder for the gossip mongers; it was bad enough that coke and pot had already been found in Sebring’s Porsche by the police at Cielo Drive that morning.

Two  months later the Manson gang was arrested and charged with the Tate murders and others that had taken place during their spree.  Part of the evidence police found was a “hit list” that Manson had made of celebrities he wanted to kill.  At the top of it was Frank Sinatra.  Charlie was going to have Frank seduced by one of the pretty young Manson girls and killed while having sex with her.  Liz Taylor and Richard Burton (they were going to be tied together and boiled alive), and Steve McQueen who’s death was to be made to look like a suicide.  Presumably he made the list because Star had rejected hi manuscript.

To be on Nixon’s enemies list was one thing; to make Manson’s death list was quite another.  Steve was freaked out.  He wired and burglar proofed with all the latest security equipment. He was not alone.  All over town celebrities were imprisoning themselves in their own homes..  Overnight the peaceful easy feeling that had permeated Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Brentwood and Malibu were gone, replaced by a giant paranoia that made it feel like one giant war zone.

Steve began carrying a loaded Magnum with him at all times.  However no matter how safe and secure he had made himself and his family, he could not shake the dark feeling of having come so close to death.

A simple decision to get laid had saved his life.  He would never again go out in public without a weapon.

Sunday, January 20, 2013

The Labiancas (band)

"New Spahn Ranch" writes-

Hi Liz, Patty & Matt,

I love your Manson Family blog and I just wanted to share something for possible inclusion.  

There is an amazing new NY-based "Charles Manson concept band" that claims to be a new component of the Manson Family.  They seem incredibly well versed in the intricacies of the case (going so far as to assert that they have "the little black book" that Leno LaBianca allegedly possessed, thereby hinting at their support of that theory/motive) and their songs are all centered around the events that transpired.  I personally think it is some sort of postmodern performance art project but I can't speak for them; I suppose it is possible that they genuinely believe as it says on their site that "Charles Manson is Jesus Christ."

You can check out their blog and songs here:
And then there is their first video, in which singer JJ Brine plays Manson and Lena Marquise appears to portray Sharon Tate:

Hope you guys get a kick out of this; I thought it was simply too good to go unnoticed!


Saturday, January 19, 2013

Manson Trial Jurors

Patty has been perusing a copy of "Trial by your Peers," by Manson juror William Zamora (pictured at left)  that Grump sent her some time ago.  The book details the goings on of the trial from Zamora's perspective which at times is truly comical. There are a lot of interesting tidbits in the book, which Patty will recount in other posts. One thing she found interesting was the list of jurors on the trial, and what Zamora thought of each of them. Zamora uses pseudonyms for each juror, presumably to keep from being sued (?):

"Frank Welch" (described as "self educated," true name Alva Dawson, retired deputy sherriff, pictured above right)

"Mr. White" ("alienated:" true name John Baer, electrical technician, pictured at left)
"Genaro Swanson" ("popular," true name Anlee Sisto, pictured at right)
"Olivia Madison" ("a drunk:" true name Evelyn Hines, dictaphone operator)
"Betty Clark" ("solitary")
"Mr. Scalise" (dissatisfied: true name Walter Vietzelio, retired security guard)

"Martin Payne" (narrow minded: true name Herman Tubick, undertaker and foreman, pictured at left)
"Marvin Connolly" (immature: true name William McBride, reactor operator)
"Violet Stokes" (insecure)
"Deborah Hart" (had affair with Tom Brooks, true name Jean Roseland, mother of three and secretary at TWA, pictured at right)
"Mildred Osborne"

"Ray Harris" (hostile, true name Larry Sheely)
"Ruth Collingwood" (searching for a husband)
"Daniel Jackson" (naive)
"George Kiefer, Jr." (simple)
"Edith Rayburn" (traveler)
"Tom Brooks" (had affair with Deborah Hart, true name Bob Douglass)

Friday, January 18, 2013

Q&A Manson Girls Movie

 Stars Photos From The IMDB Site

From Randy J-

so according to IDMB "Manson Girls" is currently filming and scheduled for a 2013 release. Heard anything bout this?

Thursday, January 17, 2013

The Myth of Helter Skelter

Thanks to a tip from "The Grump" it appears James Whitehouse took down the free read at Susan's web site "The Myth of Helter Skelter" the book Susan was writing and never finished before she died.  You can BUY it now on Amazon.

Bobby Interview

From our German friends-

Cupid's Odyssey: The rise, fall and rebirth of Bobby Beausoleil- Essay and interview
From what I can tell, this is one of the most recent interviews with Bobby.

I have copied the interview part for you all.  To read the essay and interview go to-

It is in German but there is an English translation option at the top of the page.  Enjoy.

Q- As Of 30 January to 26 April 2009 showed the Kunsthalle Hamburg, the exhibition "Man Son 1969", which was dedicated to the employment of contemporary artists in the counterculture of the late 1960s, with a particular emphasis on the activities of Charles Manson and his Family. In the catalog to the exhibition there is also a new edition of the infamous interview that Truman Capote had with you, I know, one of the few German publications on you. Do you get some form of support and attention from persons or organizations from Germany and Europe?

A- It is unfortunate that one of the few I attributed texts that have been translated into the German language, the invention is almost complete.In the Dialogue section of my website, I describe in detail how Mr. Capote has this "interview" distorted in the early 1980s, probably in his recollection of an interview that took place ten years before. This interview says far more than from Truman Capote, as it would ever be able to say about me. I have the curators of the exhibition mentioned by you, carefully explained, as they contacted me prior to the opening of the show in January 2009. They used the Capote-text yet, and indicated that it was more likely been their intention to use a cult figure to present authentic materials instead. That was a disappointment, but no, I was not accustomed to. Incidentally, a short passage of the interview Michael Moynihan has done to me for the Seconds Magazine, also appeared in the exhibition catalog. At least this excerpt is from an authentic interview.

I receive from any country grants from organizations or individuals. However I get from people from many countries, including German, explicit support. Most of the letters I receive, are friendly and often show appreciation for my art and music.

Q- In January 2010, the former member of the Family, Bruce Davis, asked the probation prospect (Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor of California, has refused to release Davis from now). Do you still have the hope of one day being able to leave the prison as a free man?

A-The Government of the State of California, including its Parole Board, competes with the Almighty about whose ways are mysterious. It is impossible to predict how the parole board to decide the case. I come since 1976 for a calling into question many times and I've gone through the ordeal of an appeal hearing. The parole guidelines seem to change with the weak economy, but whether what has happened in the case of Bruce Davis for me is true or not, one can only guess. I stand on the threshold of a new day.

Q-  Do you already have plans for new musical projects and do you see opportunities for further collaborations with other musicians, such as the recent Axis of Blood?

A- I'm currently working on new music for an album that I Voodoo Shivaya call. It is so far a departure from my previous albums because I sing and the emphasis here is more on gitarrenerzeugtem sound than anything I since Lucifer Rising did. Of course I am looking forward to working with other musicians, many of whom have expressed their interest to play with me to act and record music. I have for so many years mostly done solo music, and that can be very restrictive, compared to what can happen when musicians play together. The technology has made ​​it possible to do this all over the world, without ever leaving your home! I look forward to exploring these possibilities.

 Q- 2006, a Swiss label old recordings of The Orkustra on vinyl that you have 2009 published on your label White Dog Music again. Significant proportion of this was your ex-combatants Orkustra David LaFlamme. You're still in touch with LaFlamme, and do you see a way to work with him again? (By the way, have you ever noticed that Child in Time by Deep Purple sounds largely like the song Orkustra Bombay Calling?)

A- There David LaFlamme is thanks to them that even some footage of The Orkustra have survived the decades, which also applies to the recording of the 1967 version of the Lucifer Rising soundtrack of The Magick Powerhouse of Oz Anyway, except my box of tapes for keep me, David had no part in it, to arrange the release of an album of Orkustra recordings. Both, the 2006 album Orkustra the European label as well as the recently released double album in the U.S. with Orkustra recordings were produced as a collaboration between me and the White Dog Music LP two respective labels. The opportunity to make music again with David would be a delight. Sadly, his wife clearly does not agree that he has some kind of connection to me. Bombay Calling is written by David long before Deep Purple to Child in Time even thought - any similarity is purely coincidental anyway.

Q- In a way, you were in the seventies to a pioneer of electronic music. Have you ever had the opportunity to get to know the other artists who worked with electronic sounds, such as the German avant-garde composer Karlheinz Stockhausen or bands and musicians such as Throbbing Gristle, Coil, Monte Cazazza or NON ?

A- My fascination with electronically produced sounds and music has never waned, but during my captivity 42jährigen there was rarely an opportunity to experiment and explore this medium. I feel lucky to even get the opportunity and contributed little to the development of this exciting genre to have.

In my situation was the discovery of what other electronic musician who made a matter of luck, because in here I have no access to or record collections online music libraries. Electronically produced avant-garde music is found only sparsely in the U.S. radio, but sometimes I was just lucky. By most of the artists that you've mentioned, I've at least heard of music. I hope to hear much more.

Q- You came during your time in San Francisco, mid-1960s, in closer contact with the Satanism, especially Anton LaVey and his circle, or other types of occultism (apart from Kenneth Anger and his Crowley cult)? Will not you call today as a religious person (if so, in what way)?

A- Satanism is a farce, a tool invented by the Church in the Middle Ages to justify genocide and the subjugation of the population. At times he was among some groups as chic as an expression of rebellion against oppressive dogmas. But what Satanism is, honestly? A closer look, it can quickly identify a rather silly form of mockery, as would be the head of Catholicism, and played the role of a fool.

What this tells us so on Anton LaVey, the self-appointed high priest of Satanism? Yes, I met him `67, as Kenneth invited him to his apartment one afternoon. At that time I held it, as I even now do, a charlatan, who has found a way to provide for his livelihood by serving the fantasies of a group of people who buy his willing his particular brand of snake venom.

About my personal spiritual orientation, I would say that I tend to be a mystic, not so much an occultist. My practice is rooted in the ancient Vedic and Tantric traditions - traditions the same way in which Crowley himself so freely made use in his attempt to form a new religion. These traditions have known in their interior to appreciate that there are many valid ways to God, whom I consider the cause of the divine being, or as a pure, unmanifestiertes defining consciousness.

Q- Right now, you write on your memoirs. Can you estimate when the book will be finished? In what form will it be released?

A- The writing of my memoirs, as well as my life, an eternal work in progress. Nevertheless, I do like some progress. When the book is finished, I plan to publish it in traditional form and as e-books. I also thought to publish it as an audio book, read by me, with self-produced music in the background.

Q- One of your pictures that I like most, is The Green Man . Please tell me something about your painting and the ideas and inspiration behind the paintings.

A- The picture Green Man is of course my interpretation of nature's God of European mythology. God looks at this painting from nature back to us, even though God is not of this nature and romping only as a reflection in it.

All of my paintings, as well as my musical compositions are merely chanting the divine spark that is in each of us. I would prefer to avoid them to be overloaded with meaning.

Q- How did you have a favorite book or writer, and they influence your work as a musician?

A- For many years I've enjoyed getting lost in books, works of pure imagination - the more imaginative the better. Now that I'm the titles of about twenty books that surround me in my cell, scan, I know a bit surprised that almost all of them deal, in one way or another, with the self-knowledge. The journey to the heart, it seems, has broken through the imaginative.

Q- Could you please describe a typical day of your life behind bars?

A- There is no normal day behind bars. Here in the prison, a mindless, brutal routine vies with the unexpected and unpredictable for supremacy. I work hard at trying to avoid it like you're caught between these unintelligent forces. This is a kind of balancing act, and the execution is not quite perfect. It seems to work best when I focus my energy on some form of creativity. The result is that I will not give in to the inclination, to lose myself in either routine or blind chaos that threatens one with meaningless distraction.

Thank you so much that you have you taken so much time to answer my ten questions. Greetings from Germany and good luck!

Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Someone we know will be on Ghost Hunters tonight

The season premier of Ghost Hunters on SyFy is tonight. Someone will be on who you will recognize from Eviliz. However we cannot tell you who, or what it's about. And no, we won't tell you if you guess correctly, you'll just have to watch.

Ghost Hunters 9th Season Premiere To Investigate Former Home of Dr. George Hodel-Hollywood's Historic Sowden House -Black Dahlia Crime Scene- Program Airs Wed Jan 16 9PM PST


GHOST HUNTERS Program scheduled to air on SyFy Channel,
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9PM PST.

Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Questionable Questions from B&B Enterprises Questionnaire!

Once again, ladies & gentlemen (and psychos) out there in blog land, I went ahead, and read the transcript of Bobby Beausoleil's 1985 parole hearing, which DebS was kind enough to post earlier, and came upon some questionable questions from a questionnaire that was given to interested parties of B&B Enterprise publications. Can it be safe to assume that these questions were not pulled out of anyone's (large) rear, and were directly found in a parole hearing transcript? You bet! Without further delay, I bring you "B&B Enterprises" questionable questions from a questionnaire:

Who is responsible for the most discipline in your family?
Earliest age?
Did you become sexually aroused as a child by being spanked?
Did you ever become sexually aroused as a child while watching someone else spanked?
Were you ever spanked unjustly?
Can you describe your feelings?
Do you have children your own age who are in charge of other children who you sometimes spank for disciplinary reasons?
When you think of spanking, do you envision yourself as a spanker or a spankee?
Do you participate in spanking with another adult?
Do you think of spanking as purely disciplinary or erotic?
A mixture?
What is your favorite position for administering a spanking?
As a spanker do you prefer bare hand, paddle, hair brush, or other?
What should be the position of underpants during a spanking?
What do you, what, do you prefer stories of boys or girls about being spanked?
Some spanking literature stresses playfulness.

NOTE: Well, heck, I guess there isn't a thing wrong with these types of questions. Any NORMAL magazine/publication would, and SHOULD always ask their readers if they get aroused by being spanked. Don't you think MAD magazine, or Glamour, or even National Geographic should ask those too? Of course! There isn't anything remotely creepy about those questions!

Monday, January 14, 2013

Sunday, January 13, 2013


Saturday, January 12, 2013

Available...Bobby Beausoleil's 1985 Parole Hearing Report with mention of Sassy Bottoms

I was able to acquire the 1985 parole hearing of Bobby Beausoleil in hard copy. It is 161 pages. I scanned it over the course of two days. Matt stitched it and reduced the file to a manageable size (around 20mb).

The Sassy Bottoms material starts on page 30 and appears again throughout the document.

We've changed the link from the PDF to a web copy of the transcript at TOTL:

Friday, January 11, 2013

Perry Walshin and David DeLoach

Watson Said to Be 'Incommunicado'
The Dallas Morning NewsDecember 6, 1969 - pg. 1D

Two California lawyers — one a close acquaintance of Sharon Tate murder suspect Charles Watson — complained here Friday that Watson is being held incommunicado.

Attorney Perry Walshin said McKinney lawyer Bill Boyd refused his request to talk with the young man, although Walshin claimed Watson asked to see his California attorney.

Walshin also charged that a close friend of Watson's was ordered away from the Watson home in Copeville Thursday night by an armed lawman. The friend, identified as David Neale of Dallas, "might be helpful to the defense of the case," Walshin said.

Walshin and David DeLoache, whose Los Angeles firm caters to the hippie community, called a press conference at the Fairmont Hotel to air complaints that Boyd, retained by the Watson family, refused to allow him to see the 24-year-old suspect.

Washin said it was "unfortunate that the local authorities in Collin County have so thoroughly and totally suppressed and confined this defendant."

"He is innocent until proven guilty and is entitled to see his attorney unless Collin County has its own rules that in a normal judicial society would be absurd."

Walshin apparently based his right to see Watson on these grounds:

He said he contacted Watson's mother last Wednesday and she told him her son "wanted to see me with regard to his present troubles."

He said he represented both Watson and Neale in a civil matter, and Watson had been in his office "maybe 30 or 40 times."

He charged that Neale, on emergency leave from the Army because of his interest in the case, was invited to the Watson home in Copeville.

"When he arrived at the door he was greeted by an armed sheriff who told him that neither he nor his attorney could come on the premises, and was told to get off the property and not to return—that neither was welcome there," Walshin said.

Neale, a friend of the onetime Farmersville football star for five years, reportedly has information which may be beneficial to Watson.

"The information is quite salient to the present case," the attorney said. He added that if Watson tells him to leave the case, he will return to California.

He said Watson called him 3-4 weeks ago to inform him that he had returned to Texas. Walshin said the suspect did not seem upset.

Walshin described Watson as a "nice guy — a very intelligent kid."

Watson is being held in McKinney on charges that he participated in the killings of Miss Tate, who was pregnant, and four other persons. Reports form California allege a nomadic hippie cult slaughtered the movie actress and her friends during a symbolistic raid on "the establishment."

Judge Rebukes 2 Attorneys Over Claims in Tate Case
Los Angeles TimesDecember 13, 1969 - front page

Times Staff Writer
GETTING OUT OF TOWN Attorneys David DeLoach, left, and Perry Walshin leave 
courthouse in McKinney, Tex., after agreeing to return to California rather than serve
 contempt sentences.  (AP) Wirephoto  

Two Los Angeles attorneys were ordered to jail for 72 hours and fined $100 each by a Texas judge Friday for "making a circus" out of the case of Charles D. Watson, charged in the Sharon Tate and La Bianca murders.

But Judge David H. Brown gave the attorneys, Perry Walshin and David DeLoach, an alternative: "Take the next plane back to California and shut your mouths about this case."

Walshin and DeLoach agreed to leave.

The 24-year-old Watson is being held in the McKinney, Tex. jail on a California murder warrant. He is a member of the nomad cult accused of killing Miss Tate and four others at her Benedict Canyon estate Aug. 9 and grocery store owner Leno La Bianca and his wife, Rosemary, the following night.

Walshin and DeLoach claimed to represent Watson and told a press conference in Dallas last week he was being held incommunicado and that they had been refused a chance to talk to him.

Brown called Friday's hearing in McKinney solely for the purpose of denying that charge and to admonish the two attorneys.

He charged Washin and DeLoach with holding a "press spectacular" for no other purpose "than to enhance your own future by cheap publicity."

He continued: "You have more brazen effrontery than any two so-called lawyers I have seen in my life. Your conduct is not only in contempt of this court but it is in contempt of the entire judicial system of which you are supposed to be a part."

DeLoach, reached later at a Dallas hotel, said he did not understand the contempt charge and maintained that "we understood he (Watson) wanted to see us."

He said he had represented Watson in a civil case in Los Angeles and that "he's been in the office 30 or 40 times."

DeLoach was a Republican candidate for the State Assembly in 1964 and is a former county chairman of the California Young Republicans. He and Walshin are associates in a law firm on Santa Monica Blvd.

Watson, dressed in green work clothes, made his first public appearance since he gave himself up Nov. 30 when he was taken into Brown's courtroom Friday to be asked by the judge:

"Do you want to talk to these men (Walshin and DeLoach) or be represented by them?"
Watson replied, "No, sir, I do not."
The judge then asked, "Do you want to see them?"
Watson again replied, "No, I do not."

DeLoach said he did not know "if Watson even saw us in the courtroom."

"We weren't allowed to cross-examine him. We weren't allowed to discuss anything with him," he said.

At least 20 Texas highway patrolmen and sheriff's deputies were on hand to guard the suspect.

Susan Denise Atkins, another member of the band, told the Los Angeles County Grand Jury last week that Watson was the one who killed Miss Tate.

Watson, Miss Atkins, 21, and four others were indicted by the grand jury in the Tate and La Bianca slayings.

This is a link to Walshin's page at the California Bar Association website.  Apparently disbarred in CA possibly due to TX charges against him but able to reapply so the infraction couldn't have been that serious. He has been with the CA Bar off and on.  He is now in OR. contact info given.

DeLoach has been disbarred from the CA Bar Asso., big time!  Can not reapply.  There is contact info for him, too.