tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post1576708659226450184..comments2024-03-18T15:40:57.986-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Charles Manson has diedMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger181125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-81527957116857329622021-10-28T10:48:42.380-04:002021-10-28T10:48:42.380-04:00Unknown said...
He should never have been convict... Unknown said...<br /><br /><b>He should never have been convicted of 1st degree murder</b><br /><br />On which of the 9 counts ?<br /><br /><b>my thinking is if you tell somebody to jump off a cliff and they do it, are you guilt of 1st degree murder?</b><br /><br />With all due respect, that's a poor analogy because it's way more nuanced than that. Many people that talk about Charlie's involvement routinely ignore that <i>little</i> matter of conspiracy.....and that conspiracy took a couple of years to bake and is where much of Charlie's power, such as it was, lay.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59718320654751257752021-02-19T11:41:55.345-05:002021-02-19T11:41:55.345-05:00I actually thought this was my post for a second u...I actually thought this was my post for a second until i saw brownrice as the poster. This is my sentiment exactly, love or hate Manson et al, he has certainly kept a lot of us entertained through books, interviews, documentaries and so on for 50 years and for that i say thankyou Charlie.<br />He should never have been convicted of 1st degree murder, my thinking is if you tell somebody to jump off a cliff and they do it, are you guilt of 1st degree murder? If your called charlie manson then the answer would be yesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14581480161815422600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-798536278834273032021-02-18T12:43:04.002-05:002021-02-18T12:43:04.002-05:00agreedagreedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14581480161815422600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-2260853459538477732017-12-13T17:47:05.214-05:002017-12-13T17:47:05.214-05:00starviego said...
Charlie probably at this p... starviego said...<br /><br /><br /> <b>Charlie probably at this point has bigger name and facial recognition than any of the individual Beatles</b><br /><br />Ironically, if there was a point at which the 60s "died", it was when that crowd that sang "all you need is love, love is all you need", "with our love we could save the world" and "Love you, love you ~ and in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make" broke up amid arguments, put downs of each other in songs, LP covers and interviews and court cases that lasted most of the following decade. The deaths of Hendrix and Joplin soon after didn't help.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-11204174277401082672017-12-08T22:39:47.506-05:002017-12-08T22:39:47.506-05:00My hope:
His first encounter post death was with...My hope: <br /><br />His first encounter post death was with Atkins and while she bitched at him he responded "Hey, Sadie, we finally made it back to the desert, finally, that's why its so hot here."<br /><br />William, If you mean 'Manson Rah Rah': bullshit. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66413987820982254702017-12-08T00:20:34.673-05:002017-12-08T00:20:34.673-05:00I'm just a soul who's intentions are good ...I'm just a soul who's intentions are good Oh lord please don't let me be MisunderstoodAjerseydevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307773867621679673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-53312259032256733612017-12-05T17:16:59.964-05:002017-12-05T17:16:59.964-05:00@Logan~
I'm guessing it must have been a story...@Logan~<br />I'm guessing it must have been a story she followed for some time, at least on the Lynette Fromme/Charles Manson angle. It was a very curious find, indeed.Mynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423858210960669811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-92112555607241467572017-11-28T21:58:47.777-05:002017-11-28T21:58:47.777-05:00YOu know, Myna, I think that that's actually a...YOu know, Myna, I think that that's actually a pretty strange & good song in the parody video you posted a link to. esp. considering she may have written it directly before recording & uploading that video. Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317087119665050796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-3750103262085965492017-11-28T21:53:33.058-05:002017-11-28T21:53:33.058-05:00myna, that is a strange video. i feel like anna j ...myna, that is a strange video. i feel like anna j witiuk has quite the talent for improv, though! Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317087119665050796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78305719494168163522017-11-26T20:01:06.542-05:002017-11-26T20:01:06.542-05:00I wonder if the news of Manson's death to thos...I wonder if the news of Manson's death to those still in prison strikes a morbid cord deep inside each of them. It's got to have caused a shudder, a terrible recognition, like a dark shade slowly closing over a lighted window of their own wasted mortality. <br /><br />I was curious if Lynette Fromme had made any sort of statement on old Charlie's demise, but found nothing listed on Google except this odd Lynette parody video put up a few days ago on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yDAnoExkEo<br /><br />Mynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423858210960669811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59580877213482472292017-11-26T18:47:34.977-05:002017-11-26T18:47:34.977-05:00Just as an addendum to the Mail story - they conta...Just as an addendum to the Mail story - they contacted me on Monday for a proposed piece on the Joel Pugh/Manson saga (yet again). I sincerely hope I put them off - but am not holding my breath! xSime's Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16000593518302539593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-16712586608199262242017-11-25T01:05:02.993-05:002017-11-25T01:05:02.993-05:00Christopher that Manson: Final Words looks good!Christopher that Manson: Final Words looks good!Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206702171683458150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75977416682666224442017-11-24T18:30:16.721-05:002017-11-24T18:30:16.721-05:00Nonymous said...
The Daily Mail
At first th... Nonymous said...<br /><br /> <b> The Daily Mail </b><br /><br />At first their article is really accurate, a refreshing diversion....then it reverts to type. There's one really odd bit {it might be in the "Where are they now ?" segment} where the reader is informed that Susan Atkins died in 2009 then is told she's next eligible for parole in 2012.<br /><br /> prefeteria said...<br /><br /> <b>I believe that after the Crowe incident, that the word got out that Manson and/or his people could do this type of thing on demand</b><br /><br />If they heard the same story Charlie supposedly told AC, no one in their right mind would hire that lot for a shit, much less a hit ! <br />Well, maybe Susan....<br /><br /> Marlene Ful said...<br /><br /> <b>what I do not understand is how the ones that did murder could be so cruel and not have compassion for all the victims</b><br /><br />In a acid~y, topsy turvy, twistedly counterculturally seeming way, arguably, compassion <i>was</i> being shown.<br />It is noteworthy that when Susan was first speaking of the murders to one of her cellmates, she was adamant that whatever she said and did to Sharon, she was saying and doing to herself. Although earlier on Vermouth Brilliantine joked that <br /><b>I am he As you are he As you are me And we are all together</b><br />that opening line from "I am the Walrus" is really worth taking a look at and examining. At its heart is quite an interesting sentiment actually and not necessarily a negative one either. It certainly explains much of the Family's <i>schtick</i> and why Atkins and Van Houten did not initially see what they had done as wrong or more to the point, saw it as being right. Remember, their mode of thought was that death was a beautiful thing and they were ready to die so that gave them the right to bring death to others, to mercifully release them from this mortal plane.<br />Twisted ? Yeah. <br />But they believed it. How Charlie got them to go along with that is one of the marveling aspects of this story although he's by no means the first person to have achieved such a feat.<br /><br /><b>Without Charle some of them would most likely never been involved in murder</b><br /><br />I guess we can never know but I've been inclined go along with that.<br />On the other hand, who can tell ? That TLB was the occasion that did bring them to murder perhaps suggests that in other stressful circumstances they would have. Bruce and Steve certainly showed real weakness in how they succumbed. Tex also, particularly as he has said that he didn't want to go killing anyone. Could Leslie and Susan have found themselves in circumstances that could have erupted into violence and murder ? They did with strangers. Imagine later down the line and a spurned lover or something.<br />We humans can be strange and our tipping points unforeseen. I wouldn't mind betting that at the start of '69, none of the Family could have seen themselves killing.<br /><br /> starviego said...<br /><br /><b>So you are correct, Grim, when you say Manson didn't do it alone; he was in fact just the tool - a tool wielded by others</b><br /><br />I didn't even say Manson didn't do it alone. I said he didn't do it at all.<br /><br /><br /> <br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55922398529908253522017-11-24T16:23:54.108-05:002017-11-24T16:23:54.108-05:00CrisPOA said...
reading/watching the news on t... CrisPOA said...<br /><br /> <b>reading/watching the news on the mass media i am still impressed on how they forget about Watson. They say Manson made his followers kill, but the pictures are mostly of the three girls. It's just so strange</b><br /><br />But in the end, does it really matter ? Watson is still in jail and whoever is on the parole boards at his future hearings won't forget him !<br />I've often read that Bugliosi created the Manson myth, but never once heard anyone recall that Bugliosi in his book called Watson the chief Tate~LaBianca killer.<br />Many members of the media in general aren't interested in the polite backwoods boy that took drugs and killed if there's a barely literate but ever so clever and charismatic con {in both senses of the word !} of whom it is said could get young ladies to kill at his behest. It's simply a better story and Tex had all the charisma of sunflower stalk.<br /><br /> ColScott said...<br /><br /> <b>Charlie died knowing the motivation but any TLB scholar worth his salt knew he would never give it up</b><br /><br />I think Charlie lived most of his life pissed off that he ended up going down for the final time as easily as all the other times he was caught. There's no way that he could admit that "the MAN" got it right and that the wall he had so carefully constructed to show how poor society's structures were ended up falling on him and crushing him to dust. Not only that, the establishment he had so little time and respect for rebuilt his wall and that fell on him too. Holding out on "what really happened" was all he had and that took the form of never admitting that "the MAN" was in fact correct. The very fact that 3 people that had his ear for years all have espoused different motives tells one all one needs to know.<br /><br /> <b>It is sad to see what could have been a good life literally wasted</b><br /><br />I so agree with this. It also applies to the others but when one takes on board just how good Charlie was at certain things and how he could get to people, well, I think so much good could have come of it. Even if he'd been some kind of advocate for prisoners post '67, even for a short while....Although it's easier to focus on his trail of destruction there were positive aspects of his interaction with people at various points.<br /><br /> Mario George Nitrini 111 said...<br /><br /><b>everyone else knows, the "Group" that I have commented about on this blog, is<br /> NOT<br /> the Straight Satans</b><br /><br />Sometimes Mario, one can be too cryptic for one's own good. "The Group" sounds like a Canadian version of The Band {most of whom were Canadian anyway}.<br />Spit it out clearly, man !<br /><br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32644263001306680982017-11-24T07:59:41.200-05:002017-11-24T07:59:41.200-05:00Nonymous said...
The Daily Mail tracked Linda... Nonymous said...<br /><br /> <b>The Daily Mail tracked Linda Kasabian down to shout questions at her about how she feels about Manson dying, took pictures of her while she asked them to leave</b><br /><br />Well, that's the Mail for you. Juxtaposed with a piece about Hitler's last meal !<br />Linda looks like a regular 21st century grandma, hoody and joggers. When I was a kid, 68 was considered ancient and "old" people dressed like old people. But that generation that came of age in the 60s <i>did</i> have something different about them that, for a great many of them, never departed and carries on to the present day. There was much about that decade that left a lot to be desired but there were also some tremendous aspects that have enriched life for many since.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-5347076850574394072017-11-24T00:22:39.777-05:002017-11-24T00:22:39.777-05:00The Daily Mail tracked Linda Kasabian down to shou...The Daily Mail tracked Linda Kasabian down to shout questions at her about how she feels about Manson dying, took pictures of her while she asked them to leave, and showed a picture of her current apartment, and revealed her current name to anyone who didn’t already know it. Nonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15631116534188788498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64452608539203572272017-11-24T00:01:49.642-05:002017-11-24T00:01:49.642-05:00grimtraveller said
Thatcher didn't really fo...<i>grimtraveller said</i><br /><b> <br />Thatcher didn't really follow immediately, she didn't become PM until '79, although Heath did get in in 1970</b><br /><br />Yes. That was my whole point. Sorry if I didn’t express myself clearly. What I was trying to say was that the whole “death of the 60s” thing has become short-hand for the end (and failure) of the 60s counterculture but only in America was there any really obvious sign or agreement that it had in fact “died”. In the UK (courtesy of the Free Festival movement and the microdot gang) it continued to survive, grow and spread right up until the 1980s when Maggie (having pretty well crushed the miners & unions by then) turned her sites on the freaks. Google the Battle of the Beanfields (1985). In Australia, the hippie movement was doing very nicely thank you until the constitutional crisis (some would say “coup”) of ’75 when a progressive left-wing government was replaced by an authoritarian right wing one. The following year, the major communes in Australia were rather brutally raided in an attempt to close them down… houses & possessions set fire to, fruit trees cut down, gardens dug up, hippies chained to coconut trees & carted off in cattle trucks. An ugly business all round. Luckily, in the long run it didn’t really work. For quite a few of us (and our kids & grandkids), the “spirit of the 60s” never really died… despite what media pundits, wikipedia & conventional wisdom tell us.<br /><br /><i> grimtraveller also said: </i><br /><b> Hey, you presided over one of the great sites on this subject, hosted tons of priceless info and when you "came off the road" it was well noticed, missed and commented on even up until David's Dianne Lake book post.<br />What's not to love ?</b><br /><br />I'll second that.brownricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13464358994525566519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-92142462318383172172017-11-23T21:11:25.574-05:002017-11-23T21:11:25.574-05:00A.C. Fisher-Aldag said...
Shea was viewed as a w...A.C. Fisher-Aldag said...<br /><br /> <b>Shea was viewed as a witness who could testify against the killers</b><br /><br />George Stimson states the absolute opposite in his book. He says "Nor did he {Shea} have any idea of what some of them had already done to demonstrate that devotion and commitment."<br />Steve Grogan and Bruce Davis both mentioned that he was said to be a snitch but never in connection to any murders. In fact, in George's book, Charlie tells George about Shorty's snitching and about the woman he was with which seemed to bother him even in 2001. In the book George actually quotes Charlie at length including "[People] don't come to me with that shit [race mixing] because I'll kill 'em."<br /><br /> CATSCRADLE77 said...<br /><br /> <b>Thank you all for your kindness - it is much appreciated</b><br /><br />Hey, you presided over one of the great sites on this subject, hosted tons of priceless info and when you "came off the road" it was well noticed, missed and commented on even up until David's Dianne Lake book post.<br />What's not to love ?<br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78767316436689152782017-11-23T20:49:01.099-05:002017-11-23T20:49:01.099-05:00starviego said...
I am not the only who does... starviego said...<br /><br /><br /> <b>I am not the only who doesn't buy into the Inheritance Theory</b><br /><br />Of course you're not. Lots of people don't. The Inheritance theory, <i>is</i> presented, at least by Bugliosi during the penalty phase, in his book and for years afterwards as having the hallmarks of a Manson episode, all the way down to bloody writing on the walls involving some guise of the word 'pig'.<br />But look at what Mahoney is actually saying in its entirety from the hearing. He is concentrating on Police evidence that came up in August '69 that show Bobby trying to shift blame onto Black people and tying that together with Bobby's recent admissions that he tried to blame Black radicals and the Panthers. Mahoney is so concentrating on the race war aspect of the Family and is obviously, by that, trying hard to pin Bobby as a bona fide member of the Family and under Charlie's orders. He's not actually saying he doesn't buy the inheritance theory {nor that he does} because he says there's testimony and evidence to support it, rather, that because Bobby was denied parole in 2010 for not being able to show insight as to what led to the crimes, has he changed in the ensuing 6 years given that the evidence shows, with all that we "know" about HS, that this murder demonstrates Charlie's MO ~ blame the Blacks {in the hope that Whitey would get pissed off and go gung ho for revenge}. He wants to know how Bobby explains such major differences in what came up in '69 being so closely allied to what was said to be Charlie's plan to start HS and this drug deal story that comes so late in the day.<br /><br /><b> It would have taken days/weeks to convert house/stocks/bonds into cash in hand, involving real estate people, banks, brokers, lawyers, etc</b><br /><br />Well, be that as it may, it didn't seem that way when Juanita gave the Family $10,000 or when Linda nicked Charles Melton's $5000 or when Tex filched Lotsapoppa's $2700 and according to DeCarlo, when Sandy came on board, she had $6000 worth of stocks which she sold and gave to Charlie. It didn't seem to take long to get money out of Dennis Wilson. Even without Dianne Lake's book there has for almost half a century been ample evidence that good money found its way to the Family.<br /><br /> A.C. Fisher-Aldag said...<br /><br /> <b>Or it's possible it is true, and that you noble, edjacated scholars are not in possession of all the facts</b><br /><br />That's precisely why I used examples of your quotes where there are known facts, in particularly from Charlie.<br /><br /><b>Ha! Exonerated Manson. That's funny. It would have gotten him killed</b><br /><br />Then why were you openly declaring it all these years while in the same breath stating that Charlie never lied to you and all this came from him.<br />He made it to 83 !<br />The talk of Mafia hits and black books has been around for decades. Wouldn't you think a hit might be put on Charlie just to make sure he didn't give away more than he was already giving away ? After all, Charlie was far sighted enough to flex his muscles on Susan, Pat and Leslie when they all blabbed in '69 with the result that they sank themselves ~ <i>but not him</i>. And when they started "telling the truth" it did them no good. One died in jail, 2 are still there.....<br /><br /> grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90732849214586150612017-11-23T20:27:47.160-05:002017-11-23T20:27:47.160-05:00It was very sad to find this blog still up and onl...It was very sad to find this blog still up and online.<br />http://releasecharlesmansonnow.blogspot.com/<br />So, I just looked at it a bit and it was like write a letter to help Manson get out of jail, and he's already dead, but its not updated or removed. And there is very little information about his last days or last words or anything, now that these blogs are abandoned. I am not sure, but I think I read grey wolf is the friend of Manson, whom they claimed was seen with Star going to a gem and mineral show. But, I lost the details or the notes I had on that subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59486050171154027892017-11-23T19:28:44.572-05:002017-11-23T19:28:44.572-05:00Peter said...
Charlie killed the 60s and then... Peter said...<br /><br /> <b>Charlie killed the 60s and then Altamont stabbed it after it was dead</b><br /><br />Lennon didn't identify Charlie as the one that killed the 60s. His view was "the people who are in control and in power, and the class system and the whole bullshit bourgeoisie is exactly the same, except there is a lot of fag middle class kids with long hair walking around London in trendy clothes....but apart from that, nothing happened except that we all dressed up. The same bastards are in control, the same people are runnin' everything. It's exactly the same.<br />We've grown up a little, all of us, there has been a change and we're all a bit freer and all that, but it's the same game, nothing's really changed. They're doing exactly the same thing, selling arms to South Africa, killing blacks on the street, people are living in fucking poverty with rats crawling over them. It just makes you puke, <i>and I woke up to that too. The dream is over.</i> It's just the same, only I'm thirty, and a lot of people have got long hair, that's all. Nothing happened except that we grew up, we did our thing just like they were telling us. Most of the so called 'now generation' are getting a job. We're a minority, you know, people like us always were, but maybe we are a slightly larger minority because of maybe something or other."<br /><br /> brownrice said...<br /><br /> <b>Interestingly enough, the major event that all these places shared was that the "death of the 60s" pretty much immediately followed the election of a repressive, right-wing government...Thatcher in the UK</b><br /><br />Thatcher didn't really follow immediately, she didn't become PM until '79, although Heath did get in in 1970. And what then followed was 9 years of fudge, weak right wing, weak left wing govts, coalitions with the liberals that didn't really work, joining the EU then within 2 years having a referendum to see whether we should be in the EU, a PM resigning mid term, his deputy out of his depth as replacement PM, Thatcher overhauling Heath as Tory leader, the unions hoofing first one government then another by the short and curlies, the UK being known as the sick man of Europe, many figures from the radical 60s music scene becoming rich pop stars and tax exiles and carving out totally different personas from their 60s incarnations to the extent that many didn't know the likes of Bolan, Sweet, Slade, Bowie and Elton had all been active in the 60s.....by the end of '78 the UK was in a sufficient mess for Mrs T to seem like a viably strong alternative that could bring change and hope.<br />If she did preside over a period that still makes people shiver and can still bring on all night debates of fury angst & passion, there are elements of the left and counterculture that really have no one to blame but themselves. Britain in the 70s was a decade of nuances, all of which eventually played a part in paving the way for Mrs T and even she didn't have the real power base until '82.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-73708854271084195312017-11-23T16:38:54.445-05:002017-11-23T16:38:54.445-05:00Here's the blurb from their site...
Charles Ma...Here's the blurb from their site...<br />Charles Manson: The Final Words<br /><br />Narrated by musician and director Rob Zombie, the documentary focuses on the Manson family murders told from Manson’s perspective using never-before-seen case files, pictures and exclusive interviews with Manson himself from inside California State Prison.<br /><br />Charles Manson: The Final Words includes Manson’s eerie and disturbing conversations about modern society, justice, his decades behind bars, the Bernard Crowe shooting and the murders along with digitally restored audio recordings from the original investigations to reconstruct a path of events that led to the brutal slayings of movie star Sharon Tate and four of her friends on August 8, 1969 in addition to the murders of Gary Hinman and Donald “Shorty” Shea.<br /><br />The documentary also includes compelling new interviews with members of the Manson family which reveal never-before-heard details that help uncover the real story and motives behind the grisly murder spree. Viewers will hear from accused Manson family members Bobby Beausoleil, Barbara Hoyt and Catherine “Cappi” Gillies along with prosecutor Stephen Kay, defense attorney Gary Fleischman, music producer Phil Kaufman as well as other investigators and authors.<br />Chris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-12195004593212993202017-11-23T16:32:17.384-05:002017-11-23T16:32:17.384-05:00New documentary with release brought forward. Dece...New documentary with release brought forward. December 3. Trailer link below. Final Words...<br />https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx-TGqqMuPUChris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15869473313269942722017-11-23T14:44:46.186-05:002017-11-23T14:44:46.186-05:00I am not the only who doesn't buy into the Inh...<br />I am not the only who doesn't buy into the Inheritance Theory<br /><br />Beausoleil parole hearing, 2016:<br /><br />http://cielodrive.com/bobby-beausoleil-parole-hearing-2016.php<br />DEPUTY COMMISSIONER MAHONEY: ... there's claims that no, Manson wanted Mr. Hinman robbed because of a 20 thousand dollar inheritance. You know, and it looks like it was, I don't want to use the word typical, but <b>a typical Manson murder</b>, almost. To, you know, lead into the race war that he wanted to create. There was the fact that the word political piggy was written in blood, and the paw print left to be of like, the Black Panthers. There was the fact that when you were stopped by the police, you told them that the car was sold to you by a black individual. So there's ample evidence that looks like, no, this is not a bad drug deal, this was part of the Manson Family, and <b>part of a typical Manson Family murder</b>.starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85401166755908990452017-11-23T14:11:42.027-05:002017-11-23T14:11:42.027-05:00Like I posted earlier. Give it up Ace. Your seat...Like I posted earlier. Give it up Ace. Your seat on your high horse isn't as exalted as you believe it to be.<br /><br />This quote...<br /><br />Charles was incarcerated because the corporations wished to gut the environmental movement, as the executives do not wish to be deprived of their Porsches and yachts, at the expense of a little inconvenience such as undrinkable ground water. Charles was prosecuted for murder in the first place because Mr. Bugliosi was vying for the position of governor and chief big d*ck of the state of California, and needed a pulpit to pound"<br /><br />Is a bunch of made up shit, probably by you.<br /><br />it is statements like these that have caused Native American Tribes all over this land to name Ace as "Big Chief Walking Eagle", too full of shit to fly.<br /><br />"Charles" bullshitted you and you fell for it like a ton of bricks.Shorty's pistolshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606672298731718462noreply@blogger.com