tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post210898054882438417..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Sharon Tate Estate Property AuctionMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-43254336085279925492019-05-10T20:05:38.323-04:002019-05-10T20:05:38.323-04:00I was noticing the wedding dress is different in h...I was noticing the wedding dress is different in her wedding photos..no blue velvet ribbon on neck and sleeves..is it the same dress? Altered?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04164851151059886752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-41703810749344497742018-07-18T13:25:47.642-04:002018-07-18T13:25:47.642-04:00Glad we finally connected Grim. My mother also ha...Glad we finally connected Grim. My mother also had congestive heart failure.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76092319266507201552018-07-18T13:09:32.702-04:002018-07-18T13:09:32.702-04:00Donna Nelson said...
My own mother could have... Donna Nelson said...<br /><br /> <b>My own mother could have benefited from a kidney transplant, but because she had other major health issues, she was not a good candidate for a transplant. My mother was only 61 when she died, so this is not about a 90 year old per se- it is simply about not being a good candidate for a particular major surgery such as an organ transplant</b><br /><br />I can dig that. That's what I was looking for clarification on. <br />Just out of interest, what if there were no other health issues to complicate matters ? grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67146571238909448612018-07-18T12:40:35.114-04:002018-07-18T12:40:35.114-04:00So that means the items were recovered from this t...So that means the items were recovered from this theft. I wonder if anyone was prosecuted?<br /><br />http://sensationalsharontate.blogspot.com/2011/09/sharons-wedding-dress-among-items.htmlCATSCRADLE77https://www.blogger.com/profile/12703250961706399752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-29735453328182954662018-07-17T20:51:49.228-04:002018-07-17T20:51:49.228-04:00My own mother could have benefited from a kidney t...My own mother could have benefited from a kidney transplant, but because she had other major health issues, she was not a good candidate for a transplant. My mother was only 61 when she died, so this is not about a 90 year old per se- it is simply about not being a good candidate for a particular major surgery such as an organ transplant. My mother understood this and preferred that other better candidates for available kidneys be recipients of transplant.<br />Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-34120498401550845832018-07-17T20:45:20.726-04:002018-07-17T20:45:20.726-04:00Grim...better for the majority to have healthcare....Grim...better for the majority to have healthcare. The 90 year old example was stated by my doctor. If u r 90, in all likelihood you don't have much longer to live as well there are probably other health issues along with frailty that would not make you a good candidate for a heart transplant, the transplant could kill u. So yes I would rather see care go to millions of others.<br />Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-38684093146687047812018-07-17T17:55:13.559-04:002018-07-17T17:55:13.559-04:00Donna Nelson said...
Let's not split hair... Donna Nelson said...<br /><br /> <b> Let's not split hairs Grim. Too much over-analyzing on this site as it is</b><br /><br />Fair enough. Let me do a Kanarek and ask you this then. Do you think someone of the age of 90 should be given a heart transplant and if not, why not ? I don't know if that qualifies as over analyzing, but for the record, I don't want to assume and I'm genuinely curious.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-733030989068928572018-07-17T16:25:22.379-04:002018-07-17T16:25:22.379-04:00Kathleen diDimwitt, if you had read the post caref...Kathleen diDimwitt, if you had read the post carefully you would have had the opportunity to comprehend that we were fully aware of that...<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23064058872225979082018-07-17T15:50:22.026-04:002018-07-17T15:50:22.026-04:00The auction is taking place with the approval of h...The auction is taking place with the approval of her sister - see The Tate Family Legacy on Facebook - this blog is filled with such dim wits.Kathleen diGregoriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01696191982754271237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-86841968546282938282018-07-16T22:18:24.665-04:002018-07-16T22:18:24.665-04:00Let's not split hairs Grim. Too much over-ana...Let's not split hairs Grim. Too much over-analyzing on this site as it is.<br />Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23572546052088865082018-07-16T12:13:23.865-04:002018-07-16T12:13:23.865-04:00It's hard to get an implied "other" ...It's hard to get an implied "other" in an absolute remark.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-7686869059041654302018-07-16T12:00:57.926-04:002018-07-16T12:00:57.926-04:00Well apparently you did not get the implied part.Well apparently you did not get the implied part.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78036378945946635302018-07-16T08:56:45.753-04:002018-07-16T08:56:45.753-04:00CarolMR said: "Wouldn't Roman have been t...CarolMR said: "Wouldn't Roman have been the beneficiary of Sharon's estate, not Doris and Paul?"<br /><br />Yes, but Roman waived his rights to the estate. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6915094924096728742018-07-15T23:18:12.670-04:002018-07-15T23:18:12.670-04:00Donna Nelson said...
the point was implied
I d... Donna Nelson said...<br /><br /> <b>the point was implied</b><br /><br />I don't think it was Donna. You actually stated <i>"my thought is if you are 90 u don't need a heart transplant"</i> which is an absolute statement rather than one that implies that there is a choice between others being treated and a 90 year old having a heart transplant. Your Polish doctor said that the 90 year old <i>may</i> not be approved a heart transplant, not <i>would</i> not be approved.<br />I remember some 13 or so years ago, there was a case here of a famous footballer that for the previous 30 years was more known for his alcoholism and unreliability than his great football {and he truly had been one of the greats} and there was some furious public debate when he came up for a liver transplant. Many people felt that he shouldn't be given a liver at the public's expense because he was making no promises about staying off the booze and others said it was a waste of money and that others could benefit better than he would etc. But that's not how the system worked. Him <i>not</i> having the transplant wouldn't mean that a child waiting for a donor for some other part, for example would benefit or someone waiting for an artificial limb would get it if this guy didn't. The way money is allocated in healthcare is a little more convoluted than a simple either/or. In this guy's case, the liver match was available.<br />But you seemed to be saying that because someone is 90 and theoretically near to death, they've had their life so why should they need and therefore be given a new heart. They're not going to be around much longer.<br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44708345054366037152018-07-15T22:52:56.464-04:002018-07-15T22:52:56.464-04:00David said...
VIVE LA FRANCE!!
France were m... David said...<br /><br /> <b>VIVE LA FRANCE!!</b><br /><br />France were my tip once we got to the knockout phase. They simply played the most exciting football. At the same time, I hate dominance in sport, I want a level playing field so if Croatia had won, I wouldn't have minded as it would have meant a new winner like we had in 2010 and '98.<br />France's first two goals were both the results of diabolical refereeing decisions though. That said, I love goals, as one famed commentator in 1974 said, "goals pay the rent," so to have 6 in a final was mouth watering for me. Finals are usually so cautious. <br />This one was anything but.<br /><br /> AustinAnn74 said...<br /><br /><b>Medicare isn't a social program. You pay into your Medicare by working, or having a spouse work</b><br /><br />Our national health service is along those lines. Out of our wages each month comes tax and a thing called national insurance so it's not a freebie. In a sense, it works out that everyone pays towards one another's healthcare. But we generally don't think of it in those terms, we just pay NI and one does not notice it. But if you should find yourself in need of an operation or cancer treatment for the rest of your days, you're covered. You don't end up having to empty your life savings or anything else. Now, people do have to pay a prescription charge for medicines, but there are so many exemptions and combinations of exemptions depending on one's ailment. Someone with cancer will generally have an exemption card which enables them to get other medicines free although that may depend on what condition the other medicine is treating. grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-34149350136793893272018-07-15T22:37:55.011-04:002018-07-15T22:37:55.011-04:00Grim Traveler...the point was implied.
Grim Traveler...the point was implied.<br /><br />Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-68129008497882420592018-07-15T21:50:58.551-04:002018-07-15T21:50:58.551-04:00Wouldn't Roman have been the beneficiary of Sh...Wouldn't Roman have been the beneficiary of Sharon's estate, not Doris and Paul?CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64234770199408986882018-07-15T12:55:02.007-04:002018-07-15T12:55:02.007-04:00VIVE LA FRANCE!!VIVE LA FRANCE!!Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70140707777527722632018-07-15T11:47:07.619-04:002018-07-15T11:47:07.619-04:00My mom died of breast cancer in 2016. Trust me, Me...My mom died of breast cancer in 2016. Trust me, Medicare doesn't pay for jack shit hardly! Thank God she had a Medicare supplement plan that paid for a lot, but they also follow the guidelines of Medicare, which means if Medicare won't cover a certain procedure or medication, the supplement won't either. My mom ended up paying for a lot of her medical expenses out of pocket. They also have Medicare Advantage plans that help cover costs too. Those are a bit more affordable that supplement plans. Also, Medicare isn't a social program. You pay into your Medicare by working, or having a spouse work. Medicaid, on the other hand is a social program, but not everyone qualifies. It pays for most everything, but it is hard to qualify if you own your own home, or have any assets. They do a financial investigation on you for the last five years to see if you transfer properties or quit claim deed houses, etc over to someone else in order to qualify. If you're on disability, however, you automatically qualify for Medicaid. In closing, I do not wish that horrible disease on anyone! I also wish Debra a speedy recovery. She has a long, difficult road ahead! <br />AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-83588633620021833752018-07-15T11:29:24.822-04:002018-07-15T11:29:24.822-04:00David said...
You would think so but, no.
Can’t ...David said...<br /><br /><b>You would think so but, no.</b><br /><br />Can’t say I’m surprised.<br /><br />My curiosity was raised by this bit from one of the auction house’s documents:<br /><br /><i>Title to such products purchased by you from the Service passes from Company (or, as applicable, from the Company’s authorized third-party fulfillment provider) to you upon shipment.</i><br /><br />I had wondered if since they claim title passes from them and not a seller like Debra they would have any responsibility regarding that title. <br /><br />Thanks again.Carloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16229053220050517462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-57472961820775168812018-07-14T22:25:35.178-04:002018-07-14T22:25:35.178-04:00Carlos,
You would think so but, no.
When I sig...Carlos, <br /><br />You would think so but, no. <br /><br />When I signed up with this auction site (not the actual auction, yet) I clicked that box "agree to terms and conditions" one was a big 'caveat emptor'. <br /><br />I would think it would become a big issue if a bunch of people asked the question. Otherwise the auction house is warranting nothing. And given the comments, above, about the wedding dress. I'd say there is already an authenticity issue. <br /><br />But if they say 'we are representing nothing (legally): buyer beware. <br /><br />And again: we don't know Doris didn't give the items to Patti who gave them to Debra. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-24017090805218136722018-07-14T18:15:52.680-04:002018-07-14T18:15:52.680-04:00David said...
... she may not have 'title'...David said...<br /><br /><b>... she may not have 'title' ...</b><br /><br />Out of my curiosity for most legal things, would one expect the auction house to have any responsibility to ensure a clean, clear title on the part of the seller?<br /><br />Thanks.Carloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16229053220050517462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58766466792749063262018-07-14T16:39:31.419-04:002018-07-14T16:39:31.419-04:00That’s cool I am just interested in the case and w...That’s cool I am just interested in the case and was excited to see it solved. I realize it has no real revalense to Manson or the blog.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36270870122907758542018-07-14T16:36:38.580-04:002018-07-14T16:36:38.580-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13772033791956164902018-07-14T13:51:50.135-04:002018-07-14T13:51:50.135-04:00Starviego, that's one of my favorite pieces on...Starviego, that's one of my favorite pieces on here. I see you taking shit occasionally for your posts and I dig that you keep going. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.com