tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post6168806559286724155..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: MansonBlog Tour 2018: The Spiral Staircase Revisited (Again)Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17334813501210637472022-02-03T00:12:53.052-05:002022-02-03T00:12:53.052-05:00I lived in the house two doors down from the "...I lived in the house two doors down from the "Spiral Staircase" hovel. We used to go in there from time to time, very spooky 'cause of Manson's & co's intermittent presence. My years there were 1967-70. Met Chariie M. and his girls often. You can read about it in my book "Ten Years on the Hippie Trail: Kansas to Kathmandu, available on Amazon. The exact location of my place is easily spotted today by a stone wall w/some steps which led up to a little cabin. I Aquired my name Ananda in India by the the sadhus, a ten year journey completely inspired by my time in the Lane. My name then was Craig, but Ananda stuck and most people now Know my by that name. - Many people called my little cottage home over my years there, it was a very orderly little hippie pad, held together with a lot of class by a coterie of girls who danced nude up on the Strip in Hollywood. Charlie tried often but couldn't get to any of us, by the way, we must have been protected by some sort of blessing. So it's no mystery to me where that house in question was located. Ananda BradyAnandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06919313104502143008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70318218759034638502021-12-28T19:19:28.803-05:002021-12-28T19:19:28.803-05:00Beauders. Concerning Frater Shiva's book... do...Beauders. Concerning Frater Shiva's book... does it really say Tex Watson was at OTO Solar Lodge meetings? That's huge. Because the OTO claimed their group had no interaction with any Manson Family members. If they lied about that... it opens doors to other possible lies.PaulHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02965666446497527968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67448633332039944502019-08-13T18:26:38.961-04:002019-08-13T18:26:38.961-04:00Picture of the house at the bottom of this thread....Picture of the house at the bottom of this thread...<br /><br />http://murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net/thread/802/snake-pit?fbclid=IwAR086A12Lhyv4xLWD9CuQF6J2gdXiKYtjU0wIJX6TbsnpgvZgFsB1VltGRs&page=2Pork Rindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289294558787600402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23890036368762441202018-07-22T20:26:48.372-04:002018-07-22T20:26:48.372-04:00Thank you so much for this post. I am continually ...Thank you so much for this post. I am continually fascinated by this house and its sordid history. I wish there was more information available. But between the book by Dianne Lake and this post by you I am truly grateful for the new information I have discovered. Thank you! I did a story in a comic book anthology called "Satanic Mojo" issue number 1 about the Spiral Staircase. It is a short comic called "Adrift in The Fathomless Snake Pit". At thr time I wrote and drew it all the info I had came from you and Adam Gorightly. I contacted him for more stories regarding the house but he responded and said he had hit a dead end in his research as well. Thank you again and I really enjoy reading the comments on here. Endlessly informative.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18161030174948222512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23797600566844081042018-05-08T02:04:22.522-04:002018-05-08T02:04:22.522-04:00I have also heard about the owner being named Jean...I have also heard about the owner being named Jean and possibly being Georgina Brayton. I read in Frater Shiva's book that Watson not Manson was seen at a OTO meeting put on by Brayton and her husband. I have also wondered about the characters hanging out at the Spiral Staircase and would like to hear the folklore of the Snake Pit.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-1633329694478937192018-05-04T15:23:00.112-04:002018-05-04T15:23:00.112-04:00Farfuendo!!! Thank you for the laugh. Where the he...Farfuendo!!! Thank you for the laugh. Where the heck has he gone?Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042563411146539890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17733105141499876352018-05-04T12:39:23.985-04:002018-05-04T12:39:23.985-04:00sheisalocal said...
@Matt, was the thinking well s...<i>sheisalocal said...<br />@Matt, was the thinking well since we're already expelling Cosby, might as well toss Polanski in too?</i><br /><br /><b>That was my thinking exactly...</b><br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-2762819984053367592018-05-04T11:03:29.776-04:002018-05-04T11:03:29.776-04:00I wonder if the flooding in January 69 is what kno...I wonder if the flooding in January 69 is what knocked the house off its foundation. I wonder if it was a hazard to occupy, how askew was it? Wacky times. The whole manson case is shrouded in Furfuendo.Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206702171683458150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-10695693774258885722018-05-04T10:32:03.839-04:002018-05-04T10:32:03.839-04:00@Matt, was the thinking well since we're alrea...@Matt, was the thinking well since we're already expelling Cosby, might as well toss Polanski in too?sheisalocalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697596197506223791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-84277789068211960132018-05-04T10:19:12.171-04:002018-05-04T10:19:12.171-04:00Yeah Matt it took them a while to get to it. I gu...Yeah Matt it took them a while to get to it. I guess they finally got caught up in the Me Too tide. Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206702171683458150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69542694543153422942018-05-04T09:58:27.308-04:002018-05-04T09:58:27.308-04:00Hmmmm ... Donald Furphy Trump. It kind of has a n...Hmmmm ... Donald Furphy Trump. It kind of has a nice ring to it.StillGroovinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10512734427797445390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-81646859019296971072018-05-04T08:13:31.501-04:002018-05-04T08:13:31.501-04:00The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences e...The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences expels Roman Polanski after what, 40+ years since his crimes? They should get an Oscar.<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31126329874465252592018-05-04T01:15:46.121-04:002018-05-04T01:15:46.121-04:00Strewth.. I didn't realise furphy was from Str...Strewth.. I didn't realise furphy was from Straya....🙄Penny lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10401896105440499937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-12527600857448860232018-05-04T00:34:52.536-04:002018-05-04T00:34:52.536-04:00Brownrice, interesting I like the word furphy and ...Brownrice, interesting I like the word furphy and like it when Australians and Brits use their regional expressions here.<br />Thanks for looking into this subject David.<br />I already forgot how Dianne Lake says she got her nickname, but it's funny the Family met her in the Snake Pit.Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206702171683458150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-41111616919522297322018-05-04T00:08:08.405-04:002018-05-04T00:08:08.405-04:00Noticing on the arrest report that Charlie is 5...Noticing on the arrest report that Charlie is 5'7". Charlie could be any height he wanted to be. Zelda Formaldehydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02858067536737717388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90214115518480695702018-05-03T16:34:53.138-04:002018-05-03T16:34:53.138-04:00Was Ed Sanders himself a member of the occult?
ht...<br />Was Ed Sanders himself a member of the occult?<br /><br />http://murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net/thread/1486/tlb-library?page=1&scrollTo=17342<br /><br />OO-ee-OO!starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-79256143868194203312018-05-03T12:43:46.876-04:002018-05-03T12:43:46.876-04:00Mr H, I didn't realise it was australian... I ...Mr H, I didn't realise it was australian... I wouldn't have used it if I'd realised it was localised. I've travelled a bit and generally try not to confuse things by using regional lingo in the wrong region :-) ...but yeah that's a very good description of what a furphy is.<br /><br />DebS, thanks for the correction on Gina. My memory ain't what it was. I always wondered why Sanders paid so much attention to the Solar Lodge of the OTO when there didn't really seem to be that much of a connection (other than to make his book more salacious & saleable of course). But it seemed a possibility that Gina and Jean Brayton could be the same. A very long shot though... there was probably no shortage of redheads around LA at the time. According to the Emmons book, Manson pinpoints the Spiral Staircase as a bad influence on his crew. It seems to have been a fairly pivotal spot for them... yet largely ignored & un-researched. This post goes some way towards correcting that. On ya, David! (bloody Aussie slang again) :-)brownricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13464358994525566519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-81527753528738887762018-05-03T00:16:56.202-04:002018-05-03T00:16:56.202-04:00Thanks , David.
Reading briefly about the 'sp...Thanks , David.<br /><br />Reading briefly about the 'spiral staircase' in Dianne's book reminded me of my favorite scary movie, the early 60's version of The Haunting (spiral staircase in the library), yet I would have liked to have seen it new, then just before it was torn down.Robert Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931071604173368606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21253286318687502892018-05-02T13:33:03.713-04:002018-05-02T13:33:03.713-04:00Brownrice, Sanders referred to the woman who had t...Brownrice, Sanders referred to the woman who had the Spiral Staircase as "Gina". Dianne's recollection of the woman being named "Ginger" fits right in with a red-head but I wonder if that was a nickname due to her hair color. DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63336830941372648472018-05-02T12:24:27.791-04:002018-05-02T12:24:27.791-04:00I had to look it up Brownrice: A furphy is Austral...I had to look it up Brownrice: A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual. Furphies are supposedly 'heard' from reputable sources, sometimes secondhand or thirdhand, and widely believed until discounted.Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206702171683458150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-42217233287190354982018-05-02T11:25:05.846-04:002018-05-02T11:25:05.846-04:00Interesting & well-researched post, David. I ...Interesting & well-researched post, David. I seem to recall one of the many books (Sanders maybe) saying that the red-headed "owner" (or as you say, more accurately "renter") was named Jean... could be my poor addled brain mis-remembering of course. At the time, I wondered if there was any connection with Jean Brayton (also a red-head). The Solar Lodge allegedly had some kinda scam going involving renting places to students and prospective acolytes. Probably a complete Sandersesque furphy of course or (like I say) my addled brain mis-remembering stuff. Cool post though...brownricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13464358994525566519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45696146974139030782018-05-02T10:38:19.453-04:002018-05-02T10:38:19.453-04:00Sixties,
The Raft is now the Reel Inn. Look at t...Sixties, <br /><br />The Raft is now the Reel Inn. Look at the images at the Topanga Canyon Lane entrance from PCH (Highway 101). Just north (above) the entrance there is a small, square, building. Just north of that there is a larger rectangle building. That is the Reel/Raft. <br /><br />https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0385735,-118.581727,127a,35y,1.6h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-61443772380043448612018-05-02T09:52:18.478-04:002018-05-02T09:52:18.478-04:00Very cool and informative post!...Has anybody mana...Very cool and informative post!...Has anybody managed to ascertain exactly where the Raft Restaurant, as per Ed Sanders book, was located? One of the best things about this post is the red marking on the vintage aerial photos pinpointing the house's presumed location.....maybe someone could also insert a marker showing where this restaurant was.SixtiesRockRules!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05956726843378812964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-46362883659750556902018-05-02T05:34:30.933-04:002018-05-02T05:34:30.933-04:00Has anyone ever thought of asking Dianne Lake? Sur...Has anyone ever thought of asking Dianne Lake? Surely she would know where it was and possibly the address.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07502057386220288263noreply@blogger.com