tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post6331523608722125085..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: The Face Of Evil Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-29736782326624675262013-05-18T11:16:51.908-04:002013-05-18T11:16:51.908-04:00What made me believe in Samantha was in the grand ...What made me believe in Samantha was in the grand jury transcript, she told how Polanski as he was raping her, demended to know when her last period was and when she couldn't remember said the following: "Would youwant I should go in through your back?" (ie sodomize her). This sort of Eastern European way of talking: would a 13-year-old be able to come up with that so accurately? It was just so authentic and enough to show she's telling the truth.<br /><br />BTW, she said "No" but he did it anyway. The transcript is on the Smoking Gun website. <br /><br />What a cocksucker that man is. Oh no, he isn't that, is he. What a rapist that man is. <br /><br />And "I din't know she was 13". So what? If she'd been 18, it would still have been as vile. God, it's a horrible story. You can see how scared and overwhelmed she is, all alone with him, following her into the swimming pool, stark naked, forcing oral sex on her, rape, sodomy…<br /><br />And the lie detector after Sharon…interesting how Bug misses out most of that. Such as the "No, I fucked them" comment about the air hostesses. And how about him teasing the operator at the start, lying on purpose and laughing about it and at the end, jauntily lighting a smoke and waving goodbye…<br /><br />What kind of a dad would he have been? Any bets on what might have happened if Sharon had later borne a girl? A pretty little thing who turns 13 one fine day…I wouldn't ever put it past him.fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-41190277327476030922013-05-02T08:23:13.387-04:002013-05-02T08:23:13.387-04:00Wasn't there a rumor that Debra had slept with...Wasn't there a rumor that Debra had slept with Roman at some point? Does anyone remember?Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542435792178081591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64169536153599973012013-05-01T09:47:59.368-04:002013-05-01T09:47:59.368-04:00Heidi- If I may cut in-
Between Jay and Roman she...Heidi- If I may cut in-<br /><br />Between Jay and Roman she seemed to have a thing for guys of a certain size....<br /><br />my first thought is that she should have gone after more classic tall, traditionally handsome guys, BUT maybe it says something about her she didn't care about things like that?<br /><br />Definitely both of them had issues, and a darker side to them- maybe that is what drew her?<br /><br />certainly they were both successful and sometimes even mediocre guys can get great women with the projection of confidence ( that always worked for me)<br /><br />But I always have wondered about her taste in men...<br /><br />Since Ann posted about Debras support- I have been wondering about that. Why the loyalty?<br /><br />just a total guess out of the blue- but I wonder if there was any financial support or anything like that she or the family got from Roman expo facto which is the cause of her not blowing him up publicly the way I try to here???<br /><br />It is hard to tell...St. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90071245036561426922013-05-01T08:35:41.873-04:002013-05-01T08:35:41.873-04:00AustinAnn, me too! I always feel bad for Debra and...AustinAnn, me too! I always feel bad for Debra and I hate it when people comment on her weight, etc but her support of Roman moves her down several notches in my book. <br />I would never call myself a feminist but I HATE how Roman has treated women. What did Sharon see in him? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16009456011572039914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-77103392997493333792013-05-01T02:31:54.926-04:002013-05-01T02:31:54.926-04:00roman was also happy when sharon left london becau...roman was also happy when sharon left london because he could "see some girls."beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-10837363887570506202013-04-30T21:36:30.722-04:002013-04-30T21:36:30.722-04:00He's a disgusting person period. I'm so si...He's a disgusting person period. I'm so sick of people defending celebrities just because they are famous. He should've been locked up & no one should pay to see his films. Anyone who defends his actions with that girl should think about their children or what if they were 13, drugged & raped & then for the entire world to know about it.LoLohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10910161973515522876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-56921446112121386982013-04-30T20:06:43.654-04:002013-04-30T20:06:43.654-04:00Abigail and Voytek had their own home, didn't ...Abigail and Voytek had their own home, didn't they? I'll never understand why they didn't leave Cielo once Sharon came back from Europe.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-38618597799143208502013-04-30T18:01:27.708-04:002013-04-30T18:01:27.708-04:00Hello Hellz...
A pleasure to meet you :)
I am no...Hello Hellz...<br /><br />A pleasure to meet you :)<br /><br />I am not necessarily saying that Voytek was the reason for the intrusion... ( Although it is possible until we know for sure)<br /><br />I am saying that Roman had a bad feeling about the guy and let his wife stay around him anyway...<br /><br />If I were in his shoes- I would feel some guilt and blame.<br /><br />I have no idea if Roman being present in that house would have made any difference at all. But his first responsibility should have been to his family, and if anything at all could have been done- at least he would have had a chance to help her.<br /><br />If he felt that there was even a 1% chance that Sharon was in the wrong place with the wrong people- he should have done something about it.<br /><br />The fact that he himself made those comments about Voytek after the fact says he had some idea it wasn't a good idea for Sharon to be around him...<br /><br />there are times when you have to leave your wife to make the dough which supports her. I submit months 8 and 9 of her pregnancy are NOT one of those times.<br /><br />when you add that to the fact that he laughed and played games during his polygraph and interrogation, even going so far as to brag about cheating on her....<br /><br />I see a guy who really cared more about himself than his wife and I think if there is any small percentage that contributed in any way at all to her death-<br /><br />then he should be forced to suck a rabbit penis for the rest of his life....<br /><br /><br />Remind me sometime to tell you guys my rabbit penis story- that wasn't just some random choice of words lolSt. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-22804416829590224822013-04-30T17:36:14.703-04:002013-04-30T17:36:14.703-04:00@St Circumstance ,your saying/thinking :,,I dont b...@St Circumstance ,your saying/thinking :,,I dont blame him for her murder either, but feel he does share some responsibility. He has said himself he knew Voytek was trouble,,<br />With that piont of view ,the killers came for Voytek.Because of his shady bussiness,Bad drugs sold ?? But if that was so,.....wouldnt it be a perfect , Case closed ,with a crystal clear motive ?? Solved by LAPD easily....HellzBellzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17922649120979516836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75123598515859984372013-04-30T15:27:08.518-04:002013-04-30T15:27:08.518-04:00Good point, Carol...Good point, Carol...Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14536576410037522882013-04-30T13:38:26.626-04:002013-04-30T13:38:26.626-04:00Mia Farrow is also a hypocrite if she showed her s... Mia Farrow is also a hypocrite if she showed her support for Roman. She hates what Woody Allen did, but when Roman does the same thing, she's OK with it.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-16207382229450470902013-04-30T13:13:43.686-04:002013-04-30T13:13:43.686-04:00>>> He made jokes during the investigatio...>>> He made jokes during the investigation and interrogation- so it wasn't like the crime made him into anything. He seemed to be o.k. when he was laughing to the polygraph examiner.... <<<<br /><br />Those passages in Restless Souls really made me hate him.Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042563411146539890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17992341000163774162013-04-30T12:28:05.999-04:002013-04-30T12:28:05.999-04:00Hey Starship!!
I dont blame him for her murder ei...Hey Starship!!<br /><br />I dont blame him for her murder either, but feel he does share some responsibility. He has said himself he knew voytek was trouble.<br /><br />So when you know better and you don't do better and then something bad happens...<br /><br />Does that not equal a little blame?<br /><br />Noe here is a guy who let he extremely pregnant wife sail transatlantic without him -to go home to people he did not trust. had I done the same-and something bad happened I would be living with guilt and shame for the rest of my life....<br /><br />I think he should feel a little of that as well- maybe he does. if so- in my opinion it is deserved.<br /><br /><br />As far as when he started to go after younger children- does it matter????<br /><br />if he became that type of monster after her death- I still don't give him any kind of pass.<br /><br />He made jokes during the investigation and interrogation- so it wasn't like the crime made him into anything. He seemed to be o.k. when he was laughing to the polygraph examiner....<br /><br />I understand you aren't defending him<br /><br />however to point out he did those things after her death doesn't make it o.k does it? unless your saying his behavior was a result of the crimes- which I am not sure I agree with...<br /><br />But hey your allowed your opinion, I always welcome it! especially yours :)St. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14106011183318254952013-04-30T11:01:54.722-04:002013-04-30T11:01:54.722-04:00Don't want anyone to think I am defending his ...Don't want anyone to think I am defending his actions with underage girls, as I am not, repeat not doing that.<br /><br />But I don't know if there is any evidence of this before Sharon's murder. And while yes, Roman was a bad husband to Sharon, he really only left her alone with Voy for a very short time as she had been gone since March and Roman was due back in just a few days as well. So I do not blame him for Sharon's murder because I don't believe he ever thought she was in any danger, despite what all Voy might have had going with MDA, etc. Even the mafia guys never think they're gonna get whacked.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85620953586246598582013-04-30T09:07:12.599-04:002013-04-30T09:07:12.599-04:00That is the only thing that bothers me about Debra...That is the only thing that bothers me about Debra Tate. She is supposed to be a victims advocate, then turns around and defends RP in interviews, and even flew to Europe a few years ago to give support to him during a hearing. She was photographed holding hands with Mia Farrow, and Polanski's wife, Emmanuell Seigner during the court hearings over this rape. That is being a hypocrite! I love that she goes to parole hearings of her sister's killers, and fights to keep them behind bars, but then turning around, and advocating for a molester is just plain hypocritical! Hey, I love his movies, especially "Le Locataire" but I don't like his creepy, frog desire for sodomizing teens! AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45278294418766114352013-04-30T08:07:08.483-04:002013-04-30T08:07:08.483-04:00I could not agree more. I am so disgusted by the p...I could not agree more. I am so disgusted by the people who defend him. He had anal sex with a 13 year old girl! Was she even totally through puberty? I understand men often like younger women but she was a CHILD. Polanski makes me sick, and of course Hollywood defends him. SO sad and gross. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16009456011572039914noreply@blogger.com