tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post1637046415151315466..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Mansonblog Poll: The MotiveMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-8411389483871949982015-06-14T11:46:21.705-04:002015-06-14T11:46:21.705-04:00@grimtraveller
"... I've read interviews...@grimtraveller<br /><br />"... I've read interviews with Bobby where he downplays his association with the family and makes it seem that he had very little to do with them"<br /><br />For someone who had very little to do with them, BB went to stay with them when he had nowhere else to go. He introduced Catherine Share, Kitty Lutesinger and Leslie Van Houten to the group. He fathered children with two female family members, Kitty Lutesinger and Sandra Good. He was a friend of Dennis Wilson, Gary Hinman, Gregg Jakobson, Johnny Echols of 'Love' i.e. all Manson Family associates. According to Paul Watkins, BB was present when they were looking for the 'hole in the ground'. He was present when the Family were discussing how to raise funds to move to the desert. When he was being held in Los Angeles County Jail after being arrested, he was visited by female members of the Family. When he was in San Quentin, he was being visited by Family members. It is believed that it was he who set up the deal between the Family women and the Aryan Brotherhood to "take care" of AB members on their release, in return for the AB offering protection for the incarcerated Manson. I'd say Bobby was well and truly a member of the Family. He may not have stayed at Spahn all the time, but then again, neither did Tex. In fact, during one of Bruce Davis' parole hearings shown on YouTube, a member of the California Parole Board acknowledges that Davis admits to being a member of the Family, and says that his problem with Beausoleil is that he will not admit to being a member.<br /><br />"... But by the 90s he was coming out with quotes like "there's no love lost between me and that individual...."<br /><br />Yes, indeed, but by the 1990s, it had probably dawned on Bobby that he better change his tune and toe the party line about being down on Manson if he wanted out. By the 1990's, you have the influence of Barbara Beausoleil, and presumably a new attorney, both of whom would be giving advice on how best to pursue parole. <br /><br /><br /><br />"...Point being, that at this point, it's pretty much impossible to take anything Bob says with any degree of seriousness because he's so distorted the story over the last 46 years."<br /><br />Yes, and on that basis, it is readily apparent why the California Parole Board continues to deny him. Not only is it insulting to his victim, but also to the CPB themselves. The Parole Board hearings must be costly and time consuming. In 2010, Deputy District Attorney Sequiera hit the nail on the head when he told BB that he is a pathological liar.<br /><br /><br />"...But I for one, find it interesting that when on their own, they all put him as the centre hub."<br /><br />Yes, I agree with this, and I think it has to come down to the simple explanation that they were in fear of recriminations. But if they are sufficiently aware of being at risk if they don't downplay CM's role, then surely they wouldn't be able to later claim diminished responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-42032611780132508622015-06-13T14:55:25.604-04:002015-06-13T14:55:25.604-04:00equinox12314 said...
@grimtraveller,
&#...equinox12314 said...<br /><br /><br /> @grimtraveller,<br /><br /> 'But that's just it. None of them have shown any 'loyalty' to him in 40+ years'<br /><br /> "I have to SLIGHTLY disagree with the above, Grimtraveller. If you look at the previous post on this site i.e. the biography on Pat Krenwinkel, she remained very loyal to him through the seventies."<br /><br /><br /><br />Ok, none of them showed any loyalty to him in 35 years. Pat K has had some very harsh things to say about Charlie in that time, so much so that in "Goodbye Helter skelter" it's to her anger that he won't come clean about his part that Charlie addresses a quote about how he has no responsibility to tell the world about his part in all the cosmic madness.<br />I've noticed an interesting pattern that has repeated itself twice in history with Susan, Pat & Leslie. Back in '69, when separated from Charlie, they each told independent people {cellmates, lawyers, psychiatrists} Charlie was behind the TLB killings. Pat even went as far as to say she was scared of Charlie finding and killing her. Then he gets to them in custody and they repudiate all that. Then once the trials are over and they have time to clear their heads and reflect {and Pat said all she could with do with so much time in which she wasn't busy was think}, they all put Charlie once again as the centrepiece of these killings. None of them denies {or denied} their their culpability in murdering. But I for one, find it interesting that when on their own, they all put him as the centre hub.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />equinox12314 said...<br />"Also, if you look at the media interviews given by Bobby Beausoleil in the early 80's he was not dismissive of Charlie, and indeed told one Parole Board hearing that Manson was not at Hinman"<br /><br /><br />True. But by the 90s he was coming out with quotes like "there's no love lost between me and that individual...."<br />I was just reading a 1970 newspaper report on his second trial. It's very illuminating. That's the one where he says Manson was actually the one that killed Gary Hinman. I've read interviews with Bobby where he downplays his association with the family and makes it seem that he had very little to do with them. I wish I could find them but at the time {this was 2007 or 8} I had linked to Bobby through research I was doing on David LaFlamme and It's a Beautiful Day so it was a kind of sidetrack before getting back to what I was looking up.<br />Point being, that at this point, it's pretty much impossible to take anything Bob says with any degree of seriousness because he's so distorted the story over the last 46 years.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-57537628848405983462015-06-10T12:34:44.322-04:002015-06-10T12:34:44.322-04:00I tend to lean with Equinox. I do believe that Cr...I tend to lean with Equinox. I do believe that Crowe was THE beginning of the extreme violence and stupidity. I think Charlie was the guy who pulled the trigger, shot Crowe, assumed he was dead and, at that point, set in motion in the tragic sequence of horror events he orchestrated. He thought he shot a Panther and was fearful of reprisals and/or arrest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-60890205153975056102015-06-09T22:58:29.825-04:002015-06-09T22:58:29.825-04:00Hi, Mr. Hendrickson. Thank you for filling in some...Hi, Mr. Hendrickson. Thank you for filling in some of the blanks for me and it's an honor to be welcomed to the blog by you. Love your Manson documentary. Such a well constructed film from start to finish. One of the few documentaries that doesn't become boring after repeated viewings. <br /><br />Hi, Cris. Thanks you for your response. That's a great point that you make and one which I overlooked. It could very well be what Charlie was saying. I've heard other family members say something similar, so there's a very good chance that it's what Charlie meant. I should have posted the next thing that he said as well, but I was too lazy to transcribe it. For the sake of clarity, here's the part after the last bit I posted. This is what he says immediately after he says "They were the cult." :<br /><br /><br />"Did they tell you about all the film that they got with the dogs and chauffeurs, that came out of the black and white, when Yul Brynner and Peter Sellers paid $30,000 to get the videotapes back that they had done with the pornography, where they were gobbling on each others knobs in the closet with poor Sharon, beautiful Sharon?"<br /><br /><br />It's a very interesting interview. Charlie seems very lucid and has a very soft tone in it at times.<br /><br />Here's the video of the part that I posted. It starts at about 1:06 and ends at around 2:39 :<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Hr1sp5nmU<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-25557339023529733402015-06-09T16:56:28.195-04:002015-06-09T16:56:28.195-04:00Hi Ziggy,
I think that the last part of the inter...Hi Ziggy,<br /><br />I think that the last part of the interview you transcribed, where Charlie mentions Rosemary Baby and the Aryan woman, may refer to the "conspiracy theory" about Polanski being a satanist and having to sacrifice Sharon and the unborn baby in order to get money, fame, etc.<br />Listen, i am not desconsidering the theory...it's too far out, but in this case everything is.<br />I already said that i think that there's lots of devils in this story.<br /><br />Interesting, i've never read that interview. Of course you can't get Charlie's words without a huge grain of salt but who knows if he is leaking some truth in what he's blabbering?CrisPOAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295095196597816876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-24298580934457923132015-06-08T11:27:47.519-04:002015-06-08T11:27:47.519-04:00Welcome to the MansonSenseBlog ZIGGY:
The Black...Welcome to the MansonSenseBlog ZIGGY: <br /> <br />The Black Book contained the names of MAFIA Guys who controlled the MUSIC industry in Hollywood.<br /> <br />Leno and HIS partner were well CONNECTED to the MAFIA. AND the authorities were well aware of this.<br />In FACT Leno's "partner" was the FIRST suspect in the LaBianca HIT.<br /> <br />TRIVA: The producer of the Ron Reagan Show went on to produce "Friends." <br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59342933806193209772015-06-08T04:08:55.888-04:002015-06-08T04:08:55.888-04:00What Charlie said in part of his interview with Ro...What Charlie said in part of his interview with Ron Reagan Jr : <br /><br />"Leno La Bianca was killed for a black phone book with all the numbers in it - the phone numbers that control the music market. <br /><br />Sharon Tate and those people were killed because Terry Melcher broke a contract and sent 3 Orientals with hatchets over to kill somebody else. He didn't directly do that. What he did was he sent his mother's man over to put the light out in another chamber. <br /><br />In other words, you raise a man up in the music and everybody wants to say 'Hey well, mine is better than his.' and 'What are you doing up on my stage?' and 'Who controls what on this set?' and 'Who is the man on this set? Clark Gable?' or 'Where is your fear?' or 'How does your heart beat up on this alter when you see Sharon Tate's body laying there all naked and murdered dead.' <br /><br />Do you think I had something to do with that? That was the alter. It had nothing to do with me. It was the turnaround of a whole world. It was the Aryan woman that was being bought up from the head for Rosemary's Baby. They were the cult." <br /><br />It's hard to decipher all the metaphors in that and in particular what they mean to Charlie. It's odd that he would mention the music market in relation to Leno, since as far as I know, Leno had nothing to do with the music business. Terry Melcher breaking a contract that sent 3 Orientals with hatchets over to kill someone else, I assume is a reference to the consequences of Melcher not keeping his word with Charlie. The "3 Orientals" is possibly a reference to Watson, Krenwinkel and Atkins or Watson, Krenwinkel and Van Houten. The part where Charlie starts with "you raise a man up in the music" might be making reference to Charlie's rejection by Melcher, then Charlie asserting his dominance and asking Melcher if he's scared now that he sees that Sharon Tate is dead as a result of what Melcher did to Charlie. The altar, I assume refers to a sacrificial alter and that Sharon was sacrificed because of Melcher's actions towards Charlie. And the little thing at the end about Rosemary's Baby et al is to imply that Sharon and company weren't exactly innocents. He goes on a little more about it after that, briefly, in the interview. <br /><br />I'm just guessing in my explanation of what Charlie was saying. I have no way of knowing what he meant for certain. If someone has any way of making sense of what Charlie said, please do. TIAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-1387082327751330682015-06-07T20:50:05.238-04:002015-06-07T20:50:05.238-04:00Welp
The simplest explanation is usually the a...Welp<br /><br /> The simplest explanation is usually the accurate one.<br /><br /> Goofed up kids. Drugs. I could end my argument right there.<br /><br /> But I'll continue. Think of the stupidest thing you ever did in your life. Did you weigh the good and the bad? The future consequences? Whether Jesus loved or didn't love you? Or did you just do what you did because it seemed right right then?<br /> I think these kids were high as kites and just killed people and its a shame but there ain't nothing nice about 1969, if any of you was there.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78932406809849291112015-06-07T20:29:26.592-04:002015-06-07T20:29:26.592-04:00These motives don't do it for me. I'm goin...These motives don't do it for me. I'm going with Charlie, in his own typically convoluted way, wanted to stir up shit with both his family and the establishment. And the murderous twits wanted Charlie's approval, or just wanted to be bad-asses and subscribed to whatever idiotic notion they thought would suit his wishes or however the hell they interpreted his wishes.<br /><br />Or how about someone create a reliable truth serum and give it to Tex? And then ask him.mrgroovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08107453950806107478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-10421174538854186192015-06-07T13:56:31.144-04:002015-06-07T13:56:31.144-04:00Hi Michael,
On the question of 'getting a bro...Hi Michael,<br /><br />On the question of 'getting a brother out of jail', I am of the view that it was not for the sake of getting the cognitively challenged Bobby Beausoleil released for his own sake, but more so because he could cut a deal with the DA bringing Manson in on the Hinman murder and the Crowe shooting. <br /><br />Indeed, what I find particularly offensive is that in the Capote interview (excerpt above from St Circ) he demeans the character of the tragic Sharon Tate and her companions, in the same way that he has insulted the character of his own victim, Gary Hinman, with the ludicrous mescaline burn fiction.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-42703769895955419912015-06-07T12:05:02.585-04:002015-06-07T12:05:02.585-04:00Robert, thinking is not easy. And sometimes not pl...Robert, thinking is not easy. And sometimes not pleasant. I personally try to avoid it. One philosopher said - and I'm slightly paraphrasing because I don't have the quote to hand - 'most people go through life thinking they're thinking, but in reality they're mostly doing little more than rearranging their prejudices'.<br /><br />equinox - damn right, that bothers me. There is this unspoken subtext from all involved: <i>no we weren't doing anything as immoral as trying to spark an end-of-times racial war, you've misjudged us, we were murdering an innocent pregnant woman for the entirely moral and noble purpose of fooling the pigs into releasing our buddy who had cruelly murdered an innocent man</i><br /><br />Oh well excuse me for getting the motive so wrong. Give yourself a friggin Nobel Peace Prize!MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85006946193287889072015-06-07T10:28:54.971-04:002015-06-07T10:28:54.971-04:00Whether YOU got it (motive) right or NOT is less s...Whether YOU got it (motive) right or NOT is less significant to the fact that we ALL did some serious THINKING about what could be the TRUTH. Obviously, it's something MOST folks almost NEVER do in an entire lifetime (the "estabishment" does it for THEM).<br /> <br />Thanks to ALL for a very stimulating experience.Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-29105368970811930652015-06-07T10:12:22.434-04:002015-06-07T10:12:22.434-04:00St Circumstance,
Amazing isn't it, that Bobby...St Circumstance,<br /><br />Amazing isn't it, that Bobby acknowledges that the murders were committed to get 'a brother' out of jail, but he does not appear to be devastated, or bothered in the least, that such an act were committed for his benefit. Indeed, he seems to be flattered!<br /><br />As I said above, his attempt in the early part of the year to mitigate the Capote interview on one of his Facebook pages has been deleted.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14584434146045375292015-06-07T06:28:08.564-04:002015-06-07T06:28:08.564-04:00jl2305:
There have been rumours for years (I thin...jl2305:<br /><br />There have been rumours for years (I think Ed Sanders even mentions them in the first edition of The Family?) that the Polanskis were into off-kilter sexual stuff, that when the cops searched the Polanski-Tate home they confiscated footage Roman had shot of bondagey sex & other stuff. It kind of comes across as victim-blaming a bit but it ties in with the idea the Family had links to them before the murders, that they knew of this behaviour or knew of rumours of it. If Manson really did party with people like Mama Cass or if the Family really did have drug links to Frykowski it's not unlikely they would have picked up rumours about other Celebrities.<br /><br />Of course there have also been rumours the Family filmed snuff films etc. (also propagated by Sanders) which kind of seem less credible to me for some reason. Weird little details like this which pop up from time to time is why this whole thing has so much Mystery behind it imo.Guida Diehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881861444442344243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58503711833664142302015-06-06T16:50:16.588-04:002015-06-06T16:50:16.588-04:00Yeah. Hard to believe much when he changed his tun...Yeah. Hard to believe much when he changed his tune as often as his guitar. He went way out of his way to distance himself from the family in later years. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-35210311127559382682015-06-06T16:06:58.572-04:002015-06-06T16:06:58.572-04:00
St Circumstance,
Regarding the Capote interview,...<br />St Circumstance,<br /><br />Regarding the Capote interview, Bobby has a couple of Facebook pages which are run on his behalf. At the beginning of this year, Bobby posted on one of the pages that he admitted that his answers were reported correctly, but said that Capote had changed the questions when it went into print!!! (If you believe that really happened....) The post has since disappeared from the page. <br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-49706271357134377612015-06-06T11:50:29.160-04:002015-06-06T11:50:29.160-04:00What's he referencing with the whipping videos...What's he referencing with the whipping videos?, if indeed he actually said that. jl2305https://www.blogger.com/profile/07495451480425957235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-89335653021304720762015-06-06T11:08:34.641-04:002015-06-06T11:08:34.641-04:00I meant the Capote interview lol- if it happened l...I meant the Capote interview lol- if it happened lol<br /><br />Have a great weekend all!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65831140706381371732015-06-06T11:07:42.609-04:002015-06-06T11:07:42.609-04:00By the way- same interview bobby casts his motive ...By the way- same interview bobby casts his motive vote:<br /><br />TC: You’re not making much sense-at least to me. And I don’t think you’re stupid. Let’s try again. In your opinion, it’s all right that Manson sent Tex Watson and those girls into that house to slaughter total strangers, innocent people<br /><br />RB: I said: Who says they were innocent? They burned people on dope deals. Sharon Tate and that gang. They picked up kids on the Strip and took them home and whipped them. Made movies of it. Ask the cops; they found the movies. Not that they’d tell you the truth.<br /><br />TC: The truth is, the Lo Biancos and Sharon Tate and her friends were killed to protect you. Their deaths were directly linked to the Gary Hinman murder.<br /><br />RB: I hear you. I hear where you’re coming from.<br /><br />TC: Those were all imitations of the Hinman murder-to prove that you couldn’t have killed Hinman. And thereby get you out of jail.<br /><br />RB: To get me out of jail. (He nods, smiles, sighs-complimented) None of that came out at any of the trials. The girls got on the stand and tried to really tell how it all came down, but nobody would listen. People couldn’t believe anything except what the media said. The media had them programmed to believe it all happened because we were out to start a race war. That it was mean niggers going around hurting all these good white folk. Only-it was like you say. The media, they called us a “family.” And it was the only true thing they said. We were a family. We were mother, father, brother, sister, daughter, son. If a member of our family was in jeopardy, we didn’t abandon that person. And so for the love of a brother, a brother who was in jail on a murder rap, all those killings came down.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75327857389813645782015-06-06T10:50:39.000-04:002015-06-06T10:50:39.000-04:00Bobby Swears that interview was a lie. He says Cap...Bobby Swears that interview was a lie. He says Capote promised not to talk about the Family, and as soon as he realized where the interview was going- he terminated it.<br /><br />I cant remember where I read that, but am sure I did. I did find this from a Oui Mag interview with A. L. Bardach:<br /><br />SIDEBAR:<br />Beausoleil on Capote<br /><br />BB: There was a Truman Capote interview that took place in 1973, a television interview by CBS. It was going to be a series, but I think that a one hour special was the extent of it. What Truman Capote did was to take a few fragments of that original television interview and rewrite it. I have the actual original transcript somewhere and it doesn't match at all with his interview in Interview magazine. Most of it was a complete fabrication.<br /><br />ALB: Why do you think he did that?<br /><br />BB: Well, I can assume by his Rolling Stone interview with Andy Warhol that he's trying to relive In Cold Blood or something, I really don't know. But he seems to be obsessed with this idea, and no matter what I say to him, he's not going to get that idea out of his mind.<br /><br />ALB: Did you personally dislike him when you met him?<br /><br />BB: Oh, the moment I met him, I didn't dislike him. I was open to doing something with him. The only thing I knew about him was that he had tried to do some prison reform work, or something like that. Everyone in San Quentin at the time he came there was interested in cooperating with Truman Capote in the hopes that he could do something for them. Truman Capote, to put it mildly, did not meet their expectations.<br /><br />ALB: Did at San Quentin feel that way?<br /><br />BB: Everybody at San Quentin assumed that he came in there for the purpose of discussing prison problems and trying to educate the public as to what was really going on in prison. And things were bad in a lot of respects. Everyone was interested in having that opportunity. It turned out that Truman Capote was only interested in coming there to have some conversations with the so-called "notorious" murderers.<br /><br />I would never have cooperated with him had I known this. The day before he interviewed me, he had a short personal interview with me, to explain his intentions. And what he explained to me was that he wanted to expose prison problems, discuss prison problems, and let the public know what's going on. The next day we're in front of the TV camera and he comes on with "This thing with you and the Manson family" and he never got off of it. I fenced with him the whole time in front of the cameras.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-42518059838639749432015-06-06T10:38:04.246-04:002015-06-06T10:38:04.246-04:00Capote: Listen to me, Bobby. And answer carefully....Capote: Listen to me, Bobby. And answer carefully. Suppose, when you get out of here, somebody came to you-let’s say Charlie-and asked you to commit an act of violence, kill a man, would you do it?<br /><br />Beausoleil: (after lighting another cigarette, after smoking it half through): I might.<br /><br /><br />Yikes that is a VERY LONG PAUSE. Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574243483977353223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-33179938497439709542015-06-06T04:57:58.360-04:002015-06-06T04:57:58.360-04:00@grimtraveller,
"... But that's just it....<br />@grimtraveller,<br /><br />"... But that's just it. None of them have shown any 'loyalty' to him in 40+ years." <br /><br />I have to SLIGHTLY disagree with the above, Grimtraveller. If you look at the previous post on this site i.e. the biography on Pat Krenwinkel, she remained very loyal to him through the seventies. Also, if you look at the media interviews given by Bobby Beausoleil in the early 80's he was not dismissive of Charlie, and indeed told one Parole Board hearing that Manson was not at Hinman, and it was LE's attempt to get Charlie involved. Here's an excerpt from BB's disastrous interview with Capote:-<br /><br />TC: Listen to me, Bobby. And answer carefully. Suppose, when you get out of here, somebody came to you-let’s say Charlie-and asked you to commit an act of violence, kill a man, would you do it?<br /><br />RB (after lighting another cigarette, after smoking it half through): I might.<br /><br /><br />Susan and Leslie had certainly ditched Charlie by the mid-seventies. <br /><br />Grogan being paroled was self-serving on the part of LAPD/LADA because they got a conviction, but still had no body. Shorty Shea lived a transient lifestyle, there was always the chance that he might turn up. I agree with you that if it were not for the deal Grogan cut with the authorities, he would still be languishing in the bowels of a State Penitentiary. Yes, he does not appear to have been in any trouble since his release, and it is ironic that Mrs Kasabian, who was not convicted, has been in trouble on a number of occasions. Due to their age, and the education and vocational courses completed by Pat, Leslie, Bruce and Bobby, their is no doubt in my mind that, if paroled, they would not commit any offence. However, I would put it that they are denied release because this was a crime spree that America would like to forget. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-50912720824279975152015-06-06T00:59:18.885-04:002015-06-06T00:59:18.885-04:00Cielo D is Cielo De La Paz a photographer. Her web...Cielo D is Cielo De La Paz a photographer. Her web site is behindthepics.com. Six Miles From Cielohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13959486842499713162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-53398386030367113432015-06-06T00:37:41.245-04:002015-06-06T00:37:41.245-04:00Yes, I've noticed that before too. It's di...Yes, I've noticed that before too. It's disgusting. AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6126902795665604832015-06-06T00:16:11.435-04:002015-06-06T00:16:11.435-04:00So will Aquarius continue to have the Manson chara...So will Aquarius continue to have the Manson character?Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574243483977353223noreply@blogger.com