tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post1698180813705768509..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Manson Girls Escape Attempt from SBIMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-52292499801493598032020-12-16T19:42:11.885-05:002020-12-16T19:42:11.885-05:00How true How true Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01396814581745189433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36709011171081397002020-11-23T03:41:24.452-05:002020-11-23T03:41:24.452-05:00Leslie wouldn't be getting recommended for par...Leslie wouldn't be getting recommended for parole.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76601818325791428802020-11-22T21:53:53.872-05:002020-11-22T21:53:53.872-05:00Anyone care to speculate how things would have bee...Anyone care to speculate how things would have been different if the girls escaped? imperium_amorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07545494255636186793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17205801377414379902020-11-22T15:08:47.052-05:002020-11-22T15:08:47.052-05:00On youtube there is a documentary about the Arian ...On youtube there is a documentary about the Arian Brotherhood that passes comment with regard to their association with Manson. Visiting girls would bring in knives hidden in their vaginas.<br /><br />REF Manson and the hacksaw blade. He spoke about this being a deliberate means to get busted when moving. This would result in being put in the safer situation of solitary rather than straight into general population.Chris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-7753172392275856152020-11-22T14:11:03.421-05:002020-11-22T14:11:03.421-05:00Gorodish said...
"Como's attorney was...Gorodish said...<br /> "Como's attorney was Richard A. Walton...." <br /><br />Thanks for the info.starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55624996122561850442020-11-21T17:17:43.764-05:002020-11-21T17:17:43.764-05:00Fitzgerald was dating VIXEN Erica Gavin. Gavin spe...Fitzgerald was dating VIXEN Erica Gavin. Gavin speaks to Squeaky and, others staying in Erica and Paul's home...<br /><br />http://ericagavin.com/archive2016/the-manson-family-experience.htmlDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6134015166595213152020-11-21T16:45:28.151-05:002020-11-21T16:45:28.151-05:00Wasn't Fitzgerald banging Squeeky? Maybe he br...Wasn't Fitzgerald banging Squeeky? Maybe he brought them in.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760641498649508874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58396317897435873082020-11-21T15:27:20.724-05:002020-11-21T15:27:20.724-05:00starviego typed:
Does anybody know who Como's...starviego typed:<br /><br /><b>Does anybody know who Como's attorney was at this time(Oct '71--after the Hawthorne shootout in July of '71)?</b><br /><br />Como's attorney was Richard A. Walton of Los Angeles. (Source is <a href="https://www.cielodrive.com/archive/manson-follower-recalls-his-life-of-crime-at-sanity-hearing/" rel="nofollow">cielodrive.com"</a>) Looks like he was in trouble with the state bar in 1970. <a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/294266/united-states-v-antonio-maceo-smith-in-the-matter-of-the-discipline-of/" rel="nofollow">Here's the link.</a>Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76272045125811118872020-11-21T13:10:37.372-05:002020-11-21T13:10:37.372-05:00https://j6u6c3s7.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploa...<br />https://j6u6c3s7.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/EscapeOfKennethComo_April2017Dispatcher.pdf<br />Como had <b>numerous hacksaw blades smuggled to him</b>. This allowed him to continue cutting the cell bars even after one or two of the hacksaw blades were found in a cell search. To ensure that he had hacksaw blades in different locations. .... Como didn't say how the hacksaw blades were smuggled into the jail but some deputies think that <b>his attorney brought them in</b> since he was the only outside person who had contact with Como. It is also possible that the hacksaw blades came in through the soles of Como's shoes. ...<br /><br />Does anybody know who Como's attorney was at this time(Oct '71--after the Hawthorne shootout in July of '71)?<br /><br />starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-19119020673091443112020-11-21T09:31:19.052-05:002020-11-21T09:31:19.052-05:00Well to fair Trump didn't have the advantage o...Well to fair Trump didn't have the advantage of all degrees Joe claims to have had Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05450042124638148694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70214840171549619042020-11-21T09:25:51.963-05:002020-11-21T09:25:51.963-05:00Thanks for sharing your opinion of Trump. What I ...Thanks for sharing your opinion of Trump. What I can't comprehend is how a guy , a non politician gets elected is thought of as you say. Where as a guy with 50 years of track record gets elected 🤔 well you know what I'm getting at. Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05450042124638148694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70310895483601880762020-11-21T09:18:11.888-05:002020-11-21T09:18:11.888-05:00But if you believed the Russians elected the 2016 ...But if you believed the Russians elected the 2016 winner your not a nutjob.Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05450042124638148694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32256289947113199452020-11-20T21:15:15.917-05:002020-11-20T21:15:15.917-05:00Blogger Speculator said...
Was it the era for part...Blogger Speculator said...<br />Was it the era for part-time models to do prison work too :-) !!!ight<br /><br />Speculator, <br />You could be onto something. If the story is made up, where could Deputy Endresen have come from but a model agency?orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21886610081886670002020-11-20T15:54:46.086-05:002020-11-20T15:54:46.086-05:00Blogger Gorodish said...
"Krenwinkel, Atki...<br />Blogger Gorodish said...<br /> "Krenwinkel, Atkins, and Van Houten were housed in the Special Security Unit of CIW Frontera since April 1971. ... And even if the 12/31/1972 turns out to be a sloppy typo... "<br /><br />I agree that the timeline is way off. Which means they got the date wrong.... or the whole thing was made up out of the whole cloth. The story seems pretty specific, though. Hmm....starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14784005366932127342020-11-20T15:52:46.376-05:002020-11-20T15:52:46.376-05:00starviego typed:
Kanarek: ...I have been told tha...starviego typed:<br /><br /><b>Kanarek: ...I have been told that a person named Kenneth Como has allegedly escaped from the County Jail...</b><br /><br />The source: Irving Kanarek.....'nuff said.<br /><br /><b>The Court: The escape?<br />Kanarek: Yes. ...it is incredible of belief, with the surveillance --<br />The Court: I agree with you. ....</b><br /><br />The judge's snarky remark...,'nuff said.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-72941461467045795252020-11-20T15:43:52.739-05:002020-11-20T15:43:52.739-05:00Gorodish said...
"Are you saying attorney...Gorodish said...<br /> "Are you saying attorneys smuggled the hacksaw blades to them too?" <br /><br />Manson's Hinman/Shea trial, Oct '71<br />LADA files Box54-4 pg349 On Oct. 20, 1971<br />Kanarek: ...I have been told that a person named Kenneth Como has allegedly escaped from the County Jail... I allege it, without being able to prove it, that at this particular time, this was <b>deliberately allowed to take place</b>, or accomplished by --<br />The Court: The escape?<br />Kanarek: Yes. ...it is incredible of belief, with the surveillance --<br />The Court: I agree with you. ....<br />Kanarek: ...he was allowed to, <b>in order to generate publicity</b> against Mr. Manson at this particular time.<br /><br />The hacksaw blades were smuggled in by somebody. Did the covert operators actually encourage this, so they would have reason to renew public attention on Manson to keep the fear level up(catapulting the propaganda)?starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-74618229966310737152020-11-20T05:12:59.825-05:002020-11-20T05:12:59.825-05:00Dan S,
No offence taken.
and
No I didn't look ...Dan S,<br />No offence taken.<br />and<br />No I didn't look as good in the first place.<br /><br />Now a question for you. Are you and Deb S related? I notice you share a last name. (-:)orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85658430668760055382020-11-20T05:10:26.158-05:002020-11-20T05:10:26.158-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69526775342837524772020-11-20T04:18:48.526-05:002020-11-20T04:18:48.526-05:00starviego typed:
Yet wasn't Charlie also caug...starviego typed:<br /><br /><b>Yet wasn't Charlie also caught with a hacksaw blade? Didn't Kenny Como use a hacksaw blade in one of his escapes?</b><br /><br />Are you saying attorneys smuggled the hacksaw blades to them too? <br /><br /><b>The Gypsy/Brunner escape attempt happened at the California State Prison, Frontera, which is located in San Bernardino County, and thus would not have been guarded by Deputies from LA County.</b><br /><br />OK, let's check your story again: <i>"<b>On December 31, 1972</b>, Deputy Endresen decided to search again but this time decided to also search the dayroom. She searched the dayroom and at the end of the search she decided to check the bars on the window. When she checked the bars on the second window over, six of the bars came loose in her hand. She discovered that the bars had been cut and removed and then replaced using soap. The girls were planning on escaping the next morning."</i><br /><br />Krenwinkel, Atkins, and Van Houten were housed in the Special Security Unit of CIW Frontera since April 1971. Gypsy and Brunner joined them there in 1973, after being convicted in the Hawthorne robbery. So I'll throw your question back at you, Sherlock: Why was LASD Deputy Sheryl Endresen guarding them in a state prison? <br /><br />And even if the 12/31/1972 turns out to be a sloppy typo, why, with all the hysteria that the TLB trial generated, would nobody have heard about an escape attempt by Charlie's Angels? Sorry, my nostrils remain firmly pinched by my fingers at this tale.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-43893467623960655282020-11-20T04:17:14.339-05:002020-11-20T04:17:14.339-05:00Grim: no, the guy really is a joke. He ran the cou...Grim: no, the guy really is a joke. He ran the county as well as he did his college.<br />And to orwhut, sorry about the snarky response; basically i was just trying to say she looks great in that pictureDan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058602981660065969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23056279231909233032020-11-20T04:10:35.743-05:002020-11-20T04:10:35.743-05:00Did you look as good in the first place?Did you look as good in the first place?Dan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058602981660065969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-38822970422277957622020-11-20T00:07:02.257-05:002020-11-20T00:07:02.257-05:00An interview with Deputy Endresen might shed light...An interview with Deputy Endresen might shed light on the accuracy of the story. I can't do it for fear that she hasn't aged any better than I have.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-89634193833511818732020-11-19T23:49:08.274-05:002020-11-19T23:49:08.274-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-52439397679614803672020-11-19T23:35:31.886-05:002020-11-19T23:35:31.886-05:00Gorodish said...
"I believe this story is...Gorodish said...<br /> "I believe this story is a bit of a fabrication; an embellishment on the Gypsy/Brunner escape attempts of 1973/74 which were chronicled by Susan Atkins in CoSCoG."<br /><br />The Gypsy/Brunner escape attempt happened at the California State Prison, Frontera, which is located in San Bernardino County, and thus would not have been guarded by Deputies from LA County.starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15781446213986213912020-11-19T20:12:10.825-05:002020-11-19T20:12:10.825-05:00Gorodish said...
"The only attorney sleazy...Gorodish said...<br /> "The only attorney sleazy enough to smuggle saw blades would be Daye Shinn, and I doubt even he'd be that stupid."<br /><br />Yet wasn't Charlie also caught with a hacksaw blade? Didn't Kenny Como use a hacksaw blade in one of his escapes?starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.com