tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post1969917491150938995..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Long Time Blog Reader has a Theory on The Steve Parent Clock RadioMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-81902586435665832232019-07-15T19:02:16.817-04:002019-07-15T19:02:16.817-04:00Matt said:
Think of all the things Steve had to d...Matt said:<br /><br /><b>Think of all the things Steve had to do: drive up there, find the button, know where to park, where the path is, where the guesthouse is. Makes no sense he would do that out of the blue like that unless he had been back there before and had a legitimate reason to return. </b><br /><br />I heartily agree, and would add that this was <i>at night, during a waning crescent moon</i>. Very little ambient light, though we might surmise that the lights were on along the walkway.shoegazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14073693271676337152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67259501630116390052014-03-22T05:36:47.492-04:002014-03-22T05:36:47.492-04:00:D:DTerrapinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01767645828970423700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63031289443457565292014-03-21T17:35:20.971-04:002014-03-21T17:35:20.971-04:00Oh Robert you are so tedious. Well, someone had to...Oh Robert you are so tedious. Well, someone had to say it.Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-294238090343632342014-03-20T13:46:14.300-04:002014-03-20T13:46:14.300-04:00Howard, Merrick and maybe Shorty DID talk to the ...Howard, Merrick and maybe Shorty DID talk to the cops AND look what it got them !<br /> <br />Bill Vance, Nancy Jordon and others kept quiet and they are likely still alive.<br /> <br />Sonetimes it's called a NO Brainer !<br /> <br />As for Dennis Wilson, how did he DIE ?<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69435717183186115832014-03-20T11:18:47.710-04:002014-03-20T11:18:47.710-04:00Unfortunately both took the answer to their graves...Unfortunately both took the answer to their graves. <br /><br />Their memories about that time period would be priceless.<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-87205020798423079212014-03-20T10:54:34.754-04:002014-03-20T10:54:34.754-04:00Why didn't any of the Hollywood crowd who knew...Why didn't any of the Hollywood crowd who knew/were afraid of Manson (Melcher, Dennis Wilson, etc.) clue the police in about him after the Cielo murders?CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18061785072390794372014-03-20T10:13:42.589-04:002014-03-20T10:13:42.589-04:00CRASH;
What can you tell us about Terry Melcher....CRASH;<br /> <br />What can you tell us about Terry Melcher. The latest MANSON book reveals that HE was banging Charlie's Girls. AND HE lied about that to the cops. Like Garrison HE thought HE had to lie. <br /> <br /> AND then, there is the reason that Melcher likely walked out on his Cielo Drive lease, BECAUSE he was AFRAID of staying there any longer.<br /> <br />YOU can't escape the fact that IF Melcher / Atrobelli had - at least - warned the Polanski's about the MANSON Family danger, maybe Sharon would be alive today, growing old like the rest of us.<br /> <br />The real question is: Was anyone (witness) completely TRUTHFUL with Bugliosi ? And why didn't the cops simply beat the TRUTH out of ALL the witnesses?<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-91334182887773304452014-03-20T09:16:44.803-04:002014-03-20T09:16:44.803-04:00Garretsons polygraph was a mess on pretty much eve... Garretsons polygraph was a mess on pretty much everything he says except that he wasn't involved in the murders. And he was minimizing his involvement with parent right from the start, he didn't want anyone to think it was anything but an out of the blue drop in. Whether for a quick 15 minute sex thing, to sell a radio he brought that time, or to sell a radio he brought last time, garretson definitely didn't want them to know parent had been there before. Thats why he said he didn't know who the dead guy in the car was, a car he had been in before and a dead guy he just had a beer with 6 or 7 hours earlier who had the radio right on the seat. Minimizing all the way.crashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624403521546828497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47817197321307245252014-03-18T11:57:50.088-04:002014-03-18T11:57:50.088-04:00Ahhh. to be relevant or not to be, that seems to b...Ahhh. to be relevant or not to be, that seems to be the question, but what does the word "relevant' mean to you. If Steven Parent was there - that night - because of the clock radio, HE is dead because of it.<br /> <br />IF Parent was there that night - NOT because of the clock radio - does that dismiss HIM from the circle of events now known as the "Crime of the Century?<br /> <br />Because Charles Manson was NOT there during the "Crime of the Century" does that dismiss HIM from the circle of events known as the "Crime of the Century" ?<br /> <br />Because Roman Polanski was NOT there during the "Crime of the Century" does that dismiss HIM from the circle of events know as the Crime of the Century" ?<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78616543282524211752014-03-18T01:47:51.995-04:002014-03-18T01:47:51.995-04:00When I worked in a department store, everyone in t...When I worked in a department store, everyone in the store was polygraphed regularly. I don't remember anyone ever being caught except, one new guy refused to take the test. He left soon thereafter . I sometimes wonder whether frightening thieves away was the owners intent when they hired the polygraph company.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45406584021206660212014-03-17T23:54:36.255-04:002014-03-17T23:54:36.255-04:00My point is if this person's theory holds true...My point is if this person's theory holds true, BG lied when he said Parent brought the radio that night. Why not just say SP gave it to him the week before to try it out if that's what happened, and which is more believable, than he brought it up so late that night to sell??? The "theory" is more believable than the "truth," which is why I believe neither. And by the way, he repeated the story that the clock-radio was brought up on the murder night many times -- including in his first interviews w/ police, pre-poly, as well as on the witness stand. He never wavered on that. <br />I am reluctant to say it but I stand w/ the Col on this one.<br />Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63129626807231288742014-03-17T19:41:41.542-04:002014-03-17T19:41:41.542-04:00Vera, about 30 years ago I worked at a furniture s...Vera, about 30 years ago I worked at a furniture store. A guy worked there who was stealing is butt off. Eventually management became concerned and sent us all for polygraphs. I asked "Joe" if he was going to quit first. He replied, "No, there's no machine that can tell if I'm lying".<br /><br />He went in there and passed just like the rest of us.<br /><br />I've had zero confidence in polygraphs since then.<br /><br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-4608791341355871912014-03-17T19:02:48.029-04:002014-03-17T19:02:48.029-04:00"Or, IF it does, Garretson was lying..."..."Or, IF it does, Garretson was lying..." that was supposed to say.<br />Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15202788063828387772014-03-17T19:01:41.757-04:002014-03-17T19:01:41.757-04:00Your theory doesn't work, or, it does, Garrets...Your theory doesn't work, or, it does, Garretson was lying at his polygraph because he clearly states he BROUGHT the radio with him that night.<br /><br />Garretson Polygraph:<br />"...About a quarter of twelve or something like that, Steve came up and, you know, he brought his radio with him...<br />I didn't expect him or anything, and he came up and asked me how I've been and everything, you know, and I told him all right...Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-60133037124713655922014-03-17T17:55:33.266-04:002014-03-17T17:55:33.266-04:00Garretson himself said that Parent had stopped by ...Garretson himself said that Parent had stopped by to sell him the radio. Really, why does it even matter why he was there? Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934861084600080259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63534347732637054382014-03-17T13:30:38.513-04:002014-03-17T13:30:38.513-04:00Garretson was a hippy-type who certainly stayed up...Garretson was a hippy-type who certainly stayed up late, in fact, all night, such as on the murder night, writing letters. <br />He was involved in drugs, at least he smoked weed, still relatively rare then...he was a night-time type guy!<br />So no use going round at 2 pm, when G would be asleep.<br /><br />Steve worked 2 jobs: he may have only had time at night. <br />Maybe, Steve took a little speed....<br />wooooo. or even oo-ee-oo<br />Steve had a girlfriend: no-one has ever come forward to say he tricked with Steve, there is no evidence. <br /><br />In my young day, I lived as if day were night and so did lots of others. <br /><br />What i found interesting is that clean-living Steve knew a guy like Garretson. Look at Garretson's other associates and the general drifter-typeness of the guy. How did Steve know him?<br />Also, I think if you are showing someone how a clock works, you'd do exactly that, set it to the right time. I think that is a natural thing to do. It sort of makes the clock seem 'right'. "Let me show you how to set it. Erm..what time is it now?"fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15901229720413328932014-03-17T11:14:58.206-04:002014-03-17T11:14:58.206-04:00Mr. Hendrickson,
A quick review of the timeline p...Mr. Hendrickson,<br /><br />A quick review of the timeline proves that your "facts" are not at all factual...<br /><br />so nothing more to consider there really.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-82171424287143997002014-03-17T02:08:01.406-04:002014-03-17T02:08:01.406-04:00Mr. Spudnut I just checked the Oregon Offender Sea...Mr. Spudnut I just checked the Oregon Offender Search and it says the earliest he could be released is 4/2/14. Whether or not that means he had a hearing and was granted parole, I don't know. I'm not sure if they put a definite release date on his prisoner info but you can check on his info at this link- <br /><br />http://docpub.state.or.us/OOS/offenses.jsfDebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59183036026860390362014-03-17T01:39:33.878-04:002014-03-17T01:39:33.878-04:00Every other theory involves Garretson lying under ... Every other theory involves Garretson lying under oath also. When Garretson told the original story about Parent coming up to sell the radio he had no idea what the murders were about. He wanted as little involvement as he could have with him. The "he just showed up" story just made it simpler and more random, lessened his involvement. Just like telling the police he didn't know who he was when he saw him dead in the car. Even though he had just seen him only hours earlier and had been in the car before. <br /> His testimony at trial was coached by Bug also and the Bug wouldn't care to correct something so little. Wasn't like a huge lie and he doesn't actually say when Parent brought it. "He brought a clock radio with him and he wanted to know if I wanted to buy the one that he had, buy it or one he could get from the store, you know. He worked in an appliance place or something that dealt in radios and stereos "crashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624403521546828497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-46313174460311714242014-03-16T22:26:39.171-04:002014-03-16T22:26:39.171-04:00Sorry I'm off topic, but did Eric Monfort get ...Sorry I'm off topic, but did Eric Monfort get paroled? His parole hearing date was March 3rd.<br /><br />http://www.mansonblog.com/2013/02/eric-monfort-update.htmlMr. Spudnuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909797429262978417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-80772855948373361132014-03-16T10:50:47.748-04:002014-03-16T10:50:47.748-04:00Again, the Clock Radio may NOT be connected to mur...Again, the Clock Radio may NOT be connected to murder, but imagine YOU are that "radio" that fateful night and YOU can HEAR and SEE from inside that radio. Where are YOU? Why do the killers NOT touch YOU? The killers kill your owner, BUT ...<br /> <br />Kill everyone in the MAIN house, but ignore the guest house - maybe NO sense actually made sense afer all.<br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-82465382794328815242014-03-16T01:06:05.217-04:002014-03-16T01:06:05.217-04:00What Leslie was saying is making a lot of sense to...What Leslie was saying is making a lot of sense to me. Damn, I'm going to thinking about this all night nowNonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15631116534188788498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44099182922980028802014-03-16T00:55:10.545-04:002014-03-16T00:55:10.545-04:00Why would Garretson lie? Well, he is pretty weird....Why would Garretson lie? Well, he is pretty weird. Remember when he was hanging out with a girl that claimed to be Sharon Tate's baby that survived (which made no sense, the baby was boy) and they went on TV shows. It was a real freak show. I don't trust anything that guy says, or said, after seeing that.Nonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15631116534188788498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76896052094466877722014-03-15T18:41:02.601-04:002014-03-15T18:41:02.601-04:00Well, all of you people's theories supporting ...Well, all of you people's theories supporting the Bug clock radio scenario with little twists -- ie: he'd given Garretson the clock in the previous encounter and returned to get it, or the money, back in the second -- would mean, then, that Garretson lied about the original facts of the clock exchange to the police and later at trial. Why do that? Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-34779960242529985422014-03-15T17:24:03.505-04:002014-03-15T17:24:03.505-04:00He sounded like he's permanently orbiting the ...He sounded like he's permanently orbiting the Pleiades. I doubt it, man...<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.com