tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post2779969357921573910..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: House of MansonMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger144125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-71240051974228700662016-07-19T16:53:06.679-04:002016-07-19T16:53:06.679-04:00justice_4_all2010 said...
a better portrayal of o... justice_4_all2010 said...<br /><br /><b>a better portrayal of old Charlie than other flicks that show him as a lunatic. He is charming and probably so many followed him. Highly unlikely anyone would follow him if he acted as the nut portrayed in other films...</b><br /><br />An interesting point. But I wonder.......<br />I wonder because a number of people, including the Family murderers, have described the way Charlie was and would act, long before there was a helter skelter or murder or the other things in the wind that signalled their eventual demise. All of his co~defendants have spoken of his abusive way with them and the flashes of temper mixed with the tenderness {as have other ex Family members} and despite it all, they followed his motions and stayed for varying lengths of time. I kind of suspect that in the countercultural acid era, someone who displayed some of what you refer to as the nut would actually be seen in quite a positive light, different, in the same kind of way that someone like John the Baptist who lived out in the desert, wore weird clothes, ate odd food and shouted at people was nonetheless something of a legendary figure that attracted followers.<br /><br />Robert Hendrickson said...<br /><br /><b>find where "Pigs" are referred to as the 'rich' people, other than by Vincent Bugliosi.<br />Me THINKS Mr. "B" might have really put another one over on ALL of us</b><br /><br />Susan Atkins before the grand jury in December '69:<br /><br />Q: Susan, did Charlie oftentimes use the word pig, or, pigs?<br /><br />A: Yes.<br /><br />Q: How about helter~skelter?<br /><br />A: Yes.<br /><br />Q: Did he use the words pigs and helter~skelter very very frequently?<br /><br />A: Well, Charlie talks a lot.<br /><br />Q: I am concerned about these two words, pigs and helter~skelter.<br /><br />A: I know of ~ in some of the songs he wrote helter~skelter was in them and he'd talk about helter~skelter. We all talked about helter~skelter.<br /><br />Q: You say "we," are you speaking of the Family?<br /><br />A: Yes.<br /><br />Q: And that includes Tex?<br /><br />A: Yes.<br /><br />Q: So the words pigs and helter~skelter were common vocabulary; is that correct?<br /><br />A: Yes.<br /><br />Q: In what context would you and the other members of your Family use the words pig and pigs or helter~skelter?<br /><br />A: Context? Would you...<br /><br />Q: How would the words pigs and helter~skelter come up in your conversation?<br /><br />A: They'd just come up. All conversations were spontaneous.<br /><br />Q: What did the word pig or pigs mean to you and your Family?<br /><br />A: You must understand that all words had no meanings to us and that helter~skelter was explained to me.<br /><br />Q: By whom?<br /><br />A: Charlie. I don't even like to say Charlie, I'd like to say the words came from his mouth that helter~skelter was to be the last war on the face of the earth. It would be all the wars that have ever been fought built one on top of the other, something that no man could conceive of in his imagination. You can't conceive of what it would be like to see every man judge himself and then take it out on every other man all over the face of the earth. And pig was a word used to describe the establishment.<br /><br />Q: Today's establishment?<br /><br />A: Today's establishment....grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-10167262787427942562016-07-18T16:35:15.109-04:002016-07-18T16:35:15.109-04:00A little more on how 'pig[s]' was used: Ju...A little more on how 'pig[s]' was used: Juan Flynn said that it referred to anyone that went along with or propped up the establishment, but he testified this in court so one could easily say that he was influenced by Bugliosi. However, on 26 and 28th November '69 when Leslie Van Houten was interviewed by Mike McGann, this little bit of dialogue takes place:<br /><br />MISS VAN HOUTEN: (Unintelligible) you know. It was just a term that was used.<br /><br />SERGEANT McGANN: Yeah. But, of — of course the middle class person, I know they’re called pigs, but not ~ in addition to the police, didn’t they?<br /><br />I mean, they just didn’t just (Unintelligible) they called middle class America pigs, didn’t they?<br /><br />Wasn’t that Charlie’s definition?<br /><br />MISS VAN HOUTEN: Hum, hum, sort of, but...<br /><br />SERGEANT McGANN: That puts a lot of people under the name of pigs.<br /><br />MISS VAN HOUTEN: Probably just ~ ah ~ the whole entire population of the United States.<br /><br />SERGEANT McGANN: It didn’t include you ~ you guys up there, apparently. You came from probably a middle class family, didn’t you?<br /><br />MISS VAN HOUTEN: Uhhum, lower middle class, but —<br /><br />SERGEANT McGANN: So that included you too, really,and your parents.<br /><br />MISS VAN HOUTEN: Umhum. <br /><br />Once again, it can be seen that the word had a wide application <i>as understood by the Family</i> and it speaks to the heart of Pat's intent in writing "death to pigs" and Susan's writing 'pig' at Cielo. It also acts as an interesting background prodding for Bobby at Hinman's house. He could have chosen a hundred other things to write; he happened to choose a word that had a particular part to play in what the Family stood for.<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendrickson said...<br /><br /><b>Here's a little homework assignment:</b><br /><br />Have I passed the assignment sir ?grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-80015388483187900912016-07-16T21:23:50.434-04:002016-07-16T21:23:50.434-04:00Robert Hendrickson said...
Here's a little ho...Robert Hendrickson said...<br /><br /><b>Here's a little homework assignment: Will someone please find where "Pigs" are referred to as the 'rich' people, other than by Vincent Bugliosi</b><br /><br />'Pigs' aren't necessarily referred to as rich people specifically. Initially, Charles Manson used the term in much the same way as the counterculture did, to refer to the police. In his interview with the Sheriff a week before the Barker arrests, Brooks Poston says that Charlie referred to the police as pigs. He also, during February 1970, said the same thing to Bugliosi. There are other references from other people to the police being called pigs by Charlie, so we can see that he obviously used the term meaning them.<br />But there are also examples of a different usage of 'pigs'/'piggies' stemming from November '69 ~ February '70. For example, when speaking to the Police in his long November interview {before Bugliosi and Stovitz were even assigned the case} Danny DeCarlo says that the morning after Cielo, Clem told him "we got 5 piggies." Later on when talking about the Hinman murder, he says Bobby told him that he told Gary that he was a pig and that society no longer needed him. Juan Flynn testified that on the night of the LaBianca murders, Sadie had told him that they were going out "to get some fucking pigs." A month prior to this, Charlie had said to him & Bruce that he was going to have to show the Black man how to get HS going "by killing a whole bunch of those fucking pigs."<br />Clearly none of these references were to the police.<br />It would appear that at some point after hearing the White album, Charlie had adopted George Harrison's terminology for the establishment {and by extension, anyone that supported it} "piggies," and used it interchangeably with when he meant cops. Gregg Jakobson clearly understood 'piggies' to refer to "anyone who belonged to the establishment." Leslie Van Houten's understanding of 'pig' is also crucially important here as is Susan Atkins' reasons for writing it at the Tate house. To the Grand jury she says she was reminded of what had been written at the Hinman house. With Pat writing "death to pigs" at the LaBiancas' I think one is onto a surefire loser if one is going to try to interpret any of the writings in blood as messages to the police <i>about</i> the police.<br />I can't prove this because I have no access to papers or magazines of the time, but one of the first times 'pigs' becomes conflated or synonymous with the rich <i>specifically</i> where TLB is concerned, doesn't appear to have come from the Family and certainly not Bugliosi; it seems to have come from Bernadine Dorhn in December '69 at an early Weatherman convention when she stated "offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives and then eating a meal in the same room, far out ! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson." Her husband later said her comments were taken out of context but for our purposes, it doesn't matter. It's the what was said, not the what was meant.<br />To be fair, because messages had been written in blood at 3 houses, Bugliosi needed to know if any of the words used had any meaning for the Family and in particular Charlie. In a roundabout way, Charlie's instruction to leave a sign rebounded on him big time {and Tex & Pat not wearing gloves !}.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-38027428474851114612016-07-12T17:17:19.760-04:002016-07-12T17:17:19.760-04:00BTW...the link to watch this new Manson movie is @...BTW...the link to watch this new Manson movie is @ cielodrive dot com under the Van Houten parole threadjustice_4_all2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/18434997424896883146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-77721511627787690652016-07-12T16:21:57.744-04:002016-07-12T16:21:57.744-04:00I watched this new movie bout Manson and will say ...I watched this new movie bout Manson and will say it is a better portrayal of old Charlie than other flicks that show him as a lunatic. He is charming and probably so many followed him. Highly unlikely anyone would follow him if he acted as the nut portrayed in other films... They do have some facts wrong but all in all a flick worth seeing, if only to see how Manson appeared to many before the crimes.justice_4_all2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/18434997424896883146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15700929669769105122016-07-11T09:41:37.204-04:002016-07-11T09:41:37.204-04:00YES Farflung and in California we have the 3 strik...YES Farflung and in California we have the 3 strikes law which can put YOU back in prison FOREVER. Case in point: Leandro Andrea 50 years for shoplifting $170 worth of Disney video cassettes. U.S. Supreme Court UPHELD.<br /> <br />IF he was in the Middle East, the worst he would get is his HANDS chopped OFF.<br /> <br />In Los Angeles we have MANY traffic stops that end in 100 mile an hour car chases, but they have become the BEST entertainment on our local TV.<br /> <br />AND of course, nationally, the BLACK situation knocked Hillary Clinton's " incompetency" issue right OFF the radar. I guess Black Lives really do matter, especially IF you need votes.<br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64376261602152716702016-07-10T19:50:54.879-04:002016-07-10T19:50:54.879-04:00Apparently the Dallas shooter wrote "RB"...Apparently the Dallas shooter wrote "RB" on a wall in blood while trying to trigger a race war. Of course he used the latest Youtube shootings as a Strawman-Aunt Sally.<br /><br />The Louisiana death involved a former felon, and sex offender, to which many call irrelevant. Really?<br /><br />The law of unintended consequences may be in play. Louisiana has a specific law about certain felonies, and gun possession which could land one in prison for seven and a half years... Hard labor.<br /><br />The suspect knows they are a felon, knows they are an RSO, knows they have a gun in their pocket, and knows the consequence of virtually any police interaction.<br /><br />The sex offender felon law, combined with the 1968 gun control law has paradoxically created a formula for instant escalation.<br /><br />What expectations would one have of a person, who knows they are facing years of hard labor in Angola prison?<br /><br />1. Go peacfully and comply with police.<br /><br />2. Run Forrest RUN!!!<br /><br />3. Resist, resist, resist.<br /><br />4. Fight, grab the gun and toss it or use it (technically it doesn't matter cuz you are going to jail, or a morgue).<br /><br />Well is this just how everyone hoped these laws would work out? Perhaps some more laws should be legislated to buttress the laws which facilitate situations which places the crook into a desperate situation, which has many viewing him as having done "nothing wrong".<br /><br />From 1968 to present, a complex weave of causal associations has to be analyzed, or a simplistic solution will be suggested, which may amplify the next event(s).<br /><br />Farflunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17723130825592879022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-452848365015141822016-07-10T19:12:43.739-04:002016-07-10T19:12:43.739-04:00consensusinidem said...
Irving Kanarek's stan... consensusinidem said...<br /><br /><b>Irving Kanarek's standard of summing up is totally irrelevant to what MHN said to you</b><br /><br />Not if I make a connection with it, mate. And I did.<br /><br /> orwhut said...<br /><br /><b>The words "bigger piggies" are as close as "Piggies" comes to mentioning rich people. I guess they're the same thing</b><br /><br />"Piggies" wasn't specifically about rich people per se because by the time Harrison wrote it, he himself was rich and the Beatles in any case were a little more subtle than that. In the song though, he conflates straight society {which could have included the working class} with the establishment who, though rich like him, were the "wrong" kind of rich and were seen as those that just wanted to keep the status quo going that he wanted to see change. <i>His</i> feelings in the song are markedly different to Charlie's appropriation of the song's spirit. <br />It's one thing for a millionaire 25 year old to sing that the establishment need to change their ways. It's another thing altogether if a man who says he ate out of garbage cans to stay out of jail decides that they're <i>going</i> to change their ways.<br /><br /> Cielodrive.com said...<br /><br /><b>Are you following Grim around, Consensusinidem?</b><br /><br />I was a regular contributor to Homerecording.com from the end of 2009 to the end of 2014. For the most part, I had a grand old time, lots of banter and learned some interesting things. We used to have some fearsome debates that went on for weeks ! I had tons of contact with loads of people over the years and I can't for the life of me remember Con. Perhaps they went by a different name that I would remember if they said what it was.<br /><br /> ziggyosterberg said...<br /><br /><b>Grim did some of his best work on home recording.net. "Cassette Tape Repair : Pinky Finger vs Pencil" is Grim at the very top of his game</b><br /><br />Ah, heady times.<br />While I don't recall that specific thread, I probably said 'bic pen' or some such !<br /><br /> Vermouth Brilliantine said...<br /><br /><b>Nah, no idea who that is. I'm just foolin' around. :)</b><br /><br />In that case, I'm keeping the money !<br /><br /> St Circumstance said...<br /><br /><b>This morning on Morning Joy on MSNBC, someone accused Sean Hannity of trying to incite "A Racial War"</b><br /><br />I've long thought this was an interesting line from Bugliosi & Gentry's book ; "That Manson foresaw a war between the blacks and the whites was not fantastic. Many people believe that such a war may someday occur." I remember seeing a film called "<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BynXfREPG8" rel="nofollow">The Spook that sat by the door</a>" that even addressed a similar theme. The film was from '73 but it was from a book that Sam Greenlee wrote in '69. That notion had been gathering ground in the USA for a long time so Charles Manson wasn't unique in that respect. His uniqueness on the subject lay along lines that much of the present day TLBers have pretty much rejected.<br /><br /><br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-87469092367224437452016-07-10T18:54:38.767-04:002016-07-10T18:54:38.767-04:00You sit there a-crying, crying in your beer
You th...You sit there a-crying, crying in your beer<br />You think you got troubles, my friend listen here<br />Don't tell me your troubles, I've got enough of my own<br />Be thankful you're living, drink up and go home<br />I'm fresh out of prison, six years in the pen<br />Lost my wife and family, no one to call friend<br />Don't tell me your troubles, I've got enough of my own<br />Be thankful you're living, drink up and go home<br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-34292575547606683932016-07-10T18:35:18.468-04:002016-07-10T18:35:18.468-04:00Time gentleman please, now can you all please drin...Time gentleman please, now can you all please drink up and go home. The boy wonderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11334622723520178155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39947326188223983162016-07-10T18:31:23.328-04:002016-07-10T18:31:23.328-04:00MHN said...
Doesn't Jesus ever tell you to sh... MHN said...<br /><br /><b>Doesn't Jesus ever tell you to shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing him?</b><br /><br />He's all heart & ears and willing to answer if you'd care to ask.<br /><br /><br /> Robert Hendrickson said... <br /><br /><b>Here's a little homework assignment: Will someone please find where "Pigs" are referred to as the 'rich' people, other than by Vincent Bugliosi.<br />Me THINKS Mr. "B" might have really put another one over on ALL of us</b><br /><br />You were making the point at the end of last year that John Lennon had gone on the record {no pun intended} about his use of the word "pig[s]" to refer to the police. In response to this question you asked {<i>So HOW & WHY did the Prosecutor convince a JURY of highly educated men and women to believe that "PIG" instead refers to RICH folks ?</i>}, I gave this reply which I think still holds up:<br /><br />Well, the Beatles were a treasure trove of creative writers of both similar and divergent opinions. George Harrison says of "Piggies" that it was "social comment. I was stuck for one line in the middle until my mother came up with the lyric 'what they need is a damn good whacking !' [a damn good throttling] which is a nice simple way of saying they need a good hiding. It needed to rhyme with 'backing', 'lacking' and had absolutely nothing to do with American policemen or Californian shagnasties !" {a reference to the Family}.<br />One can see from Leslie Van Houten in her December '69 interview with Marvin Part saying "and 'Pig' was the white ~ the white businessman who hated his neighbor, couldn’t look at his neighbor with love, who was going to get it in the end" that she's picked up on the Harrison end of the spectrum rather than the Lennon end, that 'pig' referred to straight society and in her estimation, well off white straight society.<br />'Pig' was a term that had more than one application on both sides of the Atlantic {it could mean sexist, for example}, depending on who was using it. The prosecutor simply needed to bring out what had been obvious to the Family members since 1968. <br /><br />Something that occurred to me today is this; even if the entire universe used the term 'pig[s]' to refer to the police, why is that in any way important if the Family <i>didn't</i> ? There's this great song by Nazz on the 1969 "Nazz Nazz" LP called "Meridian Leeward" about a pig that becomes a human policeman and it's very clearly an anti cop & establishment song and gives an interesting insight into how the term was used by those in the counterculture of the time.<br />But though Charlie had long hair and a beard, he still saw himself as apart from much of that scene even though he could flow fairly easily within it. He seems to have often blurred the demarcation lines between symbolic and literal word meanings and used words that were common to others in ways that took his fancy at that given moment. So it makes abundant sense that the way he and the Family used to the words 'pig' or 'piggies' would not only be interchangeable, but different to the way others were using them at the time. Bugliosi simply relayed what came to him from others {like Al Springer} in order to secure his goal ~ a conviction.<br /><br /> penny lane said...<br /><br /><b>but after reading all the banter/bickering....</b><br /><br />For me, it's definitely banter. Sometimes with an unmistakable edge, though.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-87393611473746118512016-07-10T16:14:24.408-04:002016-07-10T16:14:24.408-04:00Grim did some of his best work on home recording.n...<br />Grim did some of his best work on home recording.net. "Cassette Tape Repair : Pinky Finger vs Pencil" is Grim at the very top of his game.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18066661206497497382016-07-10T15:08:54.066-04:002016-07-10T15:08:54.066-04:00Hey I'm not offended when people say that 90 p...Hey I'm not offended when people say that 90 per cent of them are deuchebags because I know from personal experience that 90 of them truly are <br /><br />:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-61323561979782501842016-07-10T14:14:00.908-04:002016-07-10T14:14:00.908-04:00Guts not guys lol. This Phone sucks. Guts not guys lol. This Phone sucks. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-12461757891374894532016-07-10T14:12:59.004-04:002016-07-10T14:12:59.004-04:00My uncle used to have a picture hanging in his liv...My uncle used to have a picture hanging in his living room of a cop sitting in a diner buying lunch for a young runaway sitting on the stool next to him with that classic bag tied the stick on the ground between them ..<br /><br />Under it was the word pig with an acronym <br /><br />Pride<br />Integity<br />Guys<br /><br />I grew up in a family of cops so I know a lot of the bashing is deserved. <br /><br />But I also know you can't toss everyone into generalized groups because of their jobs. Their are some really great people out there in law enforcement. <br /><br />Just like all hippies are not lazy no good bums - or killers lol<br /><br />Not all cops are the guy in Mr H avatar either. <br /><br />Thank god for all of us and me in particular lol <br /><br />:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18669994943043846792016-07-10T14:03:11.415-04:002016-07-10T14:03:11.415-04:00RH, the term "Pig" referencing rich esta...RH, the term "Pig" referencing rich establishment types predates the Bug and his motive creation by a few years. Pig referring to the establishment was used by the radical left, especially in the leftist underground newspapers of the time. I had heard it used to describe cops before that, but it was used interchangeably by the counter culture by the time Charlie and his crew were at play in '68 & '69.Shorty's pistolshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606672298731718462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-74972255733879201162016-07-10T12:28:31.531-04:002016-07-10T12:28:31.531-04:00Yeah you are right Mr H. Sorry lol watched it catc...Yeah you are right Mr H. Sorry lol watched it catching my morning pre beach buz :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65980488595675666892016-07-10T12:24:10.375-04:002016-07-10T12:24:10.375-04:00SAINT: I think you got it backwards, the Protestor...SAINT: I think you got it backwards, the Protestors were saying "Pigs in a Blanket" referring to the cops.<br /> <br />AND the other day I heard HIM questioning / raising the issue about Black Panthers, Black Muslims and Nation of Islam. MY heart STOPPED and I thought: is HE trying to help ME sell my MANSON stuff ?<br /> <br />I don't want to make light of this VERY serious matter, BUT I think I hear the CHICKENS roosting on MY roof. I've been in the Deep South in the early 1960s and I've even been in the Military Surlpus Store where the infamous SIGN "Our guns come with a Nigger back guarantee" hung.<br /> <br />IF I were a COP - and ( I was almost eliminated by THEM) - in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, I think I would get down before the REAL 'roosting' begins. CM wasn't just rapping about Dixie.<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48473085527071408382016-07-10T12:10:00.941-04:002016-07-10T12:10:00.941-04:00What I have seen happen in my lifetime is the abil...What I have seen happen in my lifetime is the ability to compromise politically slip away with more and more people. On the right hand we have Tea Party types and on the left the Feel The Bern people. Neither side seems willing to compromise on anything. <br /><br />I agree more philosophically with the Bernie people, but cripes it's over! Hillary won. Get over it! Tea Partyers, it's better to get something than nothing!<br /><br />The right is more than willing to shut down the government in a temper tantrum while the Bernie people are willing to withhold their vote from the presumptive nominee, even if it means getting Cheez-Doodle Face elected.<br /><br />Now, this polarization has come to people willing to gun others down rather than to listen to them.<br /><br />It's getting time for me to take a child and go to the desert...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-68124632053342233922016-07-10T11:39:15.060-04:002016-07-10T11:39:15.060-04:00Apparently on his show last night, Sean Hannity wa...Apparently on his show last night, Sean Hannity was asking a line of questions to protesters at a rally which some felt was trying to push the conversation towards racism where it wasn't existing. He kept asking the black protesters how they felt about the opposition referring to them as "Pigs in blankets", but none of the protesters he kept asking had ever heard the reference.<br /><br />This morning on Morning Joy on MSNBC, someone accused Sean Hannity of trying to incite "A Racial War".<br /><br />My how easy we throw that around these days lol<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76778501658072110282016-07-10T11:02:41.074-04:002016-07-10T11:02:41.074-04:00Nah, no idea who that is. I'm just foolin'...Nah, no idea who that is. I'm just foolin' around. :)<br /><br />And as for Mr. H's comments, we're all fucked if Hillary is the Hero Of Our Story. Jesus wept.Guida Diehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881861444442344243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85376823284696241822016-07-10T10:50:11.630-04:002016-07-10T10:50:11.630-04:00ORWHUT: I found ONE reference to Pigs being cops,...ORWHUT: I found ONE reference to Pigs being cops, BUT nothing connecting "pigs" to rich folks.<br /> <br />So where and how did Bugliosi make a "connection" ? I think HE created a connection with<br />"rich folks of Beverly Hills", which had always been a kind'a joke / sarcasm label.<br /> <br />As I have said before, sometimes it's what you can't FIND that reveals the most significant clues.<br /> <br />NOW I find it VERY interesting / scary that WHITE America is so upset over a few COPS being killed by a "black man" and BLACK America is so upset over a few BLACK people being KILLED by "white" COPS. IF this was to have happened in the 1960s - well maybe YOU could call it racism, BUT today, I THINK it's more like a "revolution." NOW, all WE need is a "bad guy" (Trump) and a new kind of hero (Clinton.) AND a duet by "Taylor Swift & Chris Brown"<br /> <br />BTW: In Helter Skelter, Bugliosi said the Blacks would be NO longer able to "rule" and would hand the reins of power back to Whitey. So WHUT is Obama going to do in January of next year ? Maybe Mr. "B" was the real visionary !<br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58342197384667462832016-07-10T10:39:24.517-04:002016-07-10T10:39:24.517-04:00Vermouth, are you Consensusinidem?Vermouth, are you Consensusinidem?CieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65967449088828241452016-07-10T10:33:12.647-04:002016-07-10T10:33:12.647-04:00I am, but that's only coz he owes me money. Lo...I am, but that's only coz he owes me money. Lousy deadbeat.Guida Diehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881861444442344243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-27224835562841727532016-07-10T10:19:15.915-04:002016-07-10T10:19:15.915-04:00"MHN, he used to be on a site called homereco..."MHN, he used to be on a site called homerecording.com where he was seen as a joke figure."<br /><br />Are you following Grim around, Consensusinidem?CieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.com