tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post2874588572286213263..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: The Gleason Report August 11 1969Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13582844702154672192022-08-17T13:29:38.756-04:002022-08-17T13:29:38.756-04:00Imagine being Vera. Now call the suicide hotline....Imagine being Vera. Now call the suicide hotline.ColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-89325878893221578562022-08-17T11:49:03.235-04:002022-08-17T11:49:03.235-04:00Classic Deb!
Here's another blues for Vera
h...Classic Deb!<br /><br />Here's another blues for Vera<br /><br />https://youtu.be/8a-3NgwrwBEDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-9119364313366622222022-08-17T11:22:14.321-04:002022-08-17T11:22:14.321-04:00This one's for you Vera!
https://youtu.be/41l...This one's for you Vera!<br /><br />https://youtu.be/41ls5idso6QDebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64313838949567233852022-08-17T03:00:16.537-04:002022-08-17T03:00:16.537-04:00Vera Dreiser said:
Much as this old gal/hag hates...Vera Dreiser said:<br /><br /><b>Much as this old gal/hag hates to agree with David..and Donnie.. Murphy, Vera agrees that ONeills book broke no new ground whatsoever and needs to be consecrated to the dust bin of shitty trash history</b><br /><br />Unless I'm mistaken, that sounds very much like a retraction.<br />Dearest Vera, what has made you change your mind about Uncle Tom's book.....again ?grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21563348276724540772022-08-17T00:05:35.589-04:002022-08-17T00:05:35.589-04:00Vera - just in case you're too loaded to think...Vera - just in case you're too loaded to think properly, I'll make it easy for you <br /><br />Approx 59 seconds into the fake Straight Satan's spiel<br /><br />https://youtu.be/zu2Cb3ZuMZUDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-68630492311921681382022-08-16T23:37:43.028-04:002022-08-16T23:37:43.028-04:00Vera,
I'm not sure I understand your comment...Vera, <br /><br />I'm not sure I understand your comment. Perhaps you should write after less gin.<br /><br /><br />I wish you the best. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65375692934027964662022-08-16T21:49:47.527-04:002022-08-16T21:49:47.527-04:00Seems that Vera's been hanging out with the fa...Seems that Vera's been hanging out with the fake Straight Satan over at Allegra's laugh a second YouTube channel...Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32491385899947510032022-08-16T21:42:05.596-04:002022-08-16T21:42:05.596-04:00Much as this old gal/hag hates to agree with David...Much as this old gal/hag hates to agree with David (the attorney who puts us all to sleep and has done zippo w/ his life as far as original research and reporting goes except the oh so sleepy I-was-a-lawyer opining) and Porky Pig, we mean, Donnie spittle-drench-my-face-in-his-salavia-when-bloviating-which-is-ferever-Lady Murphy (who hid behind a fake name and some really shitty movies for so long, um, well, yeah, forever) Vera agrees that ONeills book broke no new ground whatsoever and needs to be consecrated to the dust bin of shitty trash history, even more so than the Buggie-boo's. But she does get juicy in her watoosi about Tommy O's Instaposts cuz they're actually a million times funner than My-Pillow-Murphy's "movies" or David's EXTREMY snore fests, so fak ya selves losahs and then eat this gal's gash for realz, cuz Vera needs some dry cleaning down there.Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-37032657260687262292022-08-16T16:31:08.422-04:002022-08-16T16:31:08.422-04:00It is sadly amusing to watch Tom on Instagram tryi...It is sadly amusing to watch Tom on Instagram trying very hard to start his own M-Anon faction among idiots on social media. He's trying hard to be Steve Hodel, only without the Daddy issues.<br /><br /><br />If you cannot process information correctly DO NOT WRITE A BOOKColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-7219838378960790192022-08-16T10:26:43.435-04:002022-08-16T10:26:43.435-04:00Col. Scott said: " I am shocked I tell you!&q...Col. Scott said: " I am shocked I tell you!"<br /><br />"Your winnings, sir."<br /><br />There is so much wrong with Chaos I wouldn't know where to begin. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44986755110946093542022-08-16T04:01:26.959-04:002022-08-16T04:01:26.959-04:00D. said:
Same thing with Brooks Poston, "cal...D. said:<br /><br /><b>Same thing with Brooks Poston, "calling" something "Helter Skelter" didn't mean that was a grandiose name of something. It was a descriptive term, not a name</b>https://assets.grammarly.com/emoji/v1/1f3af.svg<br /><br />Again, potato, potarto.<br />It was both. It is both a descriptive term of general chaos and confusion, but it also referred to the distinct set of events that made up Charlie's vision/prophecy. It is as applicable as "world war II" is to the events occurring from 1939 to 1945.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14997398802563804732022-08-16T03:54:28.277-04:002022-08-16T03:54:28.277-04:00D. said:
It was a descriptive term, not a name
P...D. said:<br /><br /><b>It was a descriptive term, not a name</b><br /><br />Potato, potato.<br />Yes, it's a descriptive term. But it is also what they referred to themselves as. Many people do that. Throughout my life, my relatives would refer to 'the Family' when talking about themselves and those within the family. And it was always understood who specific people were referring to. My wife's family does the same. Almost all of my friends have done the same ever since I've been alive. And so when referring to Charlie's group, to distinguish them from any other group, 'the Family' or 'the Manson Family' were/are applicable terms. The reality is that they were a distinct group. They referred to themselves as a family because that's how they saw themselves. And those not of their number, when referring to them, referred to them as 'the Family'. It was not a media creation, but simple, human terminology to distinguish them because they were a group unto themselves.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-61610192550766064032022-08-15T22:55:10.986-04:002022-08-15T22:55:10.986-04:00Great Post Deb. So nice to have you back where yo...Great Post Deb. So nice to have you back where you belong. HELLO Deb S...musical cue.<br /><br /><br />David- I just want to get this straight. Tom O'Neill is a full of shit idiot is that your point of view then? Just a liar and a garbage person? I am shocked I tell you!ColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-8103992940442396572022-08-15T20:58:29.125-04:002022-08-15T20:58:29.125-04:00Cielodrive said: "The DDA that drew up the Sp...Cielodrive said: "The DDA that drew up the Spahn warrant for Gleason was a guy named Bob Schirn. I asked him about the informant years back and he said it was "several runaways" that gave them what they needed to get the warrant"<br /><br />This and Deb's post(s)/conclusion (great post, Deb) kinda puts the kibosh on the whole planted FBI/NSA/CIA informant thing. And frankly it makes complete sense, especially with parents pushing. Imagine (join those of us who raised a daughter for the moment) your 14-15-16 year old daughter going off to La La Spahnland with a thirty something goof who calls himself the Wizard or Jesus or worse, yet, the Devil. <br /><br />I'd have done more than 'confront' him. <br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-53069575453863222632022-08-15T01:59:36.761-04:002022-08-15T01:59:36.761-04:00Almost, emphasis has been put on the fact there wa...Almost, emphasis has been put on the fact there was no "Manson Family". That is a total media creative. A family, the family as a descriptive term. But in the first press conference in early December, they said they called themselves "THE Family".D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00987799567880583276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58314189809454382232022-08-15T00:38:05.019-04:002022-08-15T00:38:05.019-04:00A runaway uses the term "family". They g...A runaway uses the term "family". They go, interview Al Springer, throw their file on the table, asks them questions based on reports like this. Then the question, "what do they call themselves" A: "The Family".<br /><br />Same thing with Brooks Poston, "calling" something "Helter Skelter" didn't mean that was a grandiose name of something. It was a descriptive term, not a name. <br /><br />That is another thing people do not know. Cops don't sit you down and tell you to shoot. They let you know what they want, who they want. <br /><br />They were pulling that sort of shit. Saying to the girls, "you know this great guy Charlie did time in prison for_____". <br /><br />But the reports make it loud and clear where they were getting information from. This bullshit about informants is overblow. Even if a person gave them info for a split second, they might use the word "informant".<br /><br />A lot of what they were learning was coming right out Charlie's mouth to them.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00987799567880583276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55217820544650019242022-08-14T12:21:40.545-04:002022-08-14T12:21:40.545-04:00DebS said:
I thought Manson insisted that they n...DebS said:<br /><br /> <b>I thought Manson insisted that they never referred to themselves as the Family, that was a label laid on them by the press or something.</b><br /><br />Well you know Charlie never lied neither.[/sarcasm]<br /><br />Actually there are many examples of them calling themselves a 'Family.' But if there was a Family, who was Daddy? Obviously in this case Daddy didn't want to take any responsibility--just like every other deadbeat dad.starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-8806162706252757982022-08-14T02:58:40.313-04:002022-08-14T02:58:40.313-04:00You have a good memory, Peter. Yes, it's here-...You have a good memory, Peter. Yes, it's here-<br /><br />https://www.mansonblog.com/2020/03/stolen-checks-and-enigma-that-is-bill.htmlDebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15827955672601497242022-08-14T02:49:46.758-04:002022-08-14T02:49:46.758-04:00Wasn't there a suitcase filled with q check wr...Wasn't there a suitcase filled with q check writing machine, blank checks from Spahn and an Oregon plumbing company, and check washing tools.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760641498649508874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21529537883326543192022-08-14T00:13:14.481-04:002022-08-14T00:13:14.481-04:00Very cool. And, lines up perfectly with these repo...Very cool. And, lines up perfectly with these reports and, as Deb ascertained!<br />Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-20900522218979621972022-08-13T23:31:27.955-04:002022-08-13T23:31:27.955-04:00That's cool confirmation from Cielo. Wow.That's cool confirmation from Cielo. Wow. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21427171381341627562022-08-13T22:42:03.555-04:002022-08-13T22:42:03.555-04:00The DDA that drew up the Spahn warrant for Gleason...The DDA that drew up the Spahn warrant for Gleason was a guy named Bob Schirn. I asked him about the informant years back and he said it was "several runaways" that gave them what they needed to get the warrant cielodrivecomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535091266830414644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-77202268713759871302022-08-13T21:40:53.459-04:002022-08-13T21:40:53.459-04:00 TabOrFresca said...
The girl left Spahn at about ... TabOrFresca said...<br />The girl left Spahn at about the same time as Lutesinger (and Bailey, Vance, Baker). Any strong evidence that its not Kitty<br />--------<br />If you go back and reread the Knox report, he names the juvenile girls and none of them were named Kitty or any of the aliases used by the Family. There are other interviews of Kitty and she did tell law enforcement quite a bit about what was happening at Spahn Ranch. Ultimately, she went back though and was arrested at Barker Ranch.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-88912006188171844352022-08-13T18:37:20.615-04:002022-08-13T18:37:20.615-04:00The girl left Spahn at about the same time as Lute...The girl left Spahn at about the same time as Lutesinger (and Bailey, Vance, Baker). Any strong evidence that its not Kitty?<br />TabOrFrescahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18258408555227867498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13229565307420485642022-08-13T12:38:28.849-04:002022-08-13T12:38:28.849-04:00Crap! Thanks for telling me Starviego. I can'...Crap! Thanks for telling me Starviego. I can't believe I forgot to put in the link. It's fixed now.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.com