tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post3977782556445237772..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: "The Book of the Dead"Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31946576186556010552024-03-18T12:32:45.126-04:002024-03-18T12:32:45.126-04:00At the 31:16 timestamp in the video, you can catch...At the 31:16 timestamp in the video, you can catch a glimpse of some pages from the book. Check it out here: https://archive.org/details/KCRASP002FordAssassinationAttempt1975WMSmallX264Luciferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936312226776850293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-50072324386942941982020-12-31T20:39:06.376-05:002020-12-31T20:39:06.376-05:00When did Maria Alonzo join the Family? That makes ...When did Maria Alonzo join the Family? That makes sense about Fitzgerald, but didn't Fromme call Fitzgerald after she pointed the gun at Ford?beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21016894197392262152020-12-30T03:38:12.607-05:002020-12-30T03:38:12.607-05:00It's neither Priscilla Cooper nor Ruth Ann Moo...It's neither Priscilla Cooper nor Ruth Ann Moorehouse. It's Maria Alonzo. Squeaky's attorney for the Willet murders was Doug Vaughn. When Krenwinkel and Van Houten started pulling away from the Manson orbit around 1973-74, Fitzgerald started pulling away from Squeaky and Sandy, in order to facilitate Pat and Leslie's chances for parole.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51862749240869727302020-12-30T03:02:28.867-05:002020-12-30T03:02:28.867-05:00If the picture was taken in 1969 that is not Prisc...If the picture was taken in 1969 that is not Priscilla Cooper as she did not come into the Family orbit until the Aryan Brotherhood came into the picture. I believe that is RuthAnn Moorehouse. Up until she pointed the gun at Ford I believe Fromme's and probably Good's attorney as well, was Paul Fitzgerald.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31876114703840299262020-12-26T03:45:56.075-05:002020-12-26T03:45:56.075-05:00DebS typed:
The Chronicle article states that the...DebS typed:<br /><br /><b>The Chronicle article states that the book was confiscated when Lynette was arrested as a murder suspect in 1972. That would have been the murders of James and Lauren Willett. It also says that the book was eventually turned over to <i>"the young suspects"</i> defense attorney. It's unclear to me which of the young suspects attorney the book was given to although the San Francisco police did photograph the book before turning it over. Presumably they still have the photos in their files.<br /><br />Robert J. Leahy was the attorney for Billy Goucher. Unfortunately, Leahy as well as his two law partners have died. I do not know who Lynette Fromme, Nancy Pitman and Priscilla Cooper's attorneys were so I was not able to look them up. Since the article says "young suspects" I doubt that the book was given to either Michael Monfort or James Craig's attorneys as they were older."</b><br /><br />My guess would be, considering newspapers propensity in those days for typos, that "the young suspects lawyer" actually meant <b>"the young suspect's lawyer"</b>, which would be Fromme. If that was the case, the lawyer that got her off on the Willett thing was Doug Vaughn. (source: Jess Bravin book). He most likely got the book, and probably gave it back to her.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39685052007973922652020-12-25T14:33:42.890-05:002020-12-25T14:33:42.890-05:00Another mention here of the 'multicolor vest&#...Another mention here of the 'multicolor vest'. I'm wondering, is it the same vest featured in the Manson film or maybe another like it? Its been difficult to get more info. on the significance of the handmade vest. Interesting that it was maybe kept in close proximity to the book, like a ceremonial or significant object. While trying to learn more about the vest, I came across the fact that the play "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat" was created right around the same time, inspired by the 'coat of many colors' story in the bible. A coincidence, I'm sure, but themes of family, leadership and betrayal permeate both Joseph and Charlie's stories. Gene Aquamarinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05394680866794841537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51650259034524155362020-12-24T19:02:51.669-05:002020-12-24T19:02:51.669-05:00Happy Christmas Folks.
Christmas Day here.
Now, ...Happy Christmas Folks.<br /><br />Christmas Day here.<br /><br />Now, where are my presents?... the cat must have delivered something<br />Milly Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03612495681178122993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14825921242583845542020-12-24T13:13:37.319-05:002020-12-24T13:13:37.319-05:00On the other hand, John was right when he said tha...On the other hand, John was right when he said that the world is run by the insane.<br />It's even worse now, brother John.<br />...and so, "A Very Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year<br /> let's hope it's a good one without any fear"- <br />John Lennon's song-So This Is Christmas<br />and I say, "let's hope it's a good one <br /> without any tears."<br />Merry Christmas John and George, we miss you<br />Merry Christmas Paul and Ringo<br />Merry Christmas Leslie<br />and to Everyone reading this<br />There are no perfect ones<br />whether they're old or young<br />let's all hope it's gonna be better in the New Year<br />and I hope that you all find some kindness and cheerFayez Abedazizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05365559516095364539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-40851876126086997902020-12-23T01:56:42.665-05:002020-12-23T01:56:42.665-05:00I better post this before I forget...
Happy Covid...I better post this before I forget...<br /><br />Happy Covidmas everyone! May your bubbles be merry, masked, annnnd memorable...and, may Isolation Covid Claus bring you all a fabulous bounty of custom designed masks and, other wonderful delights to you for curbside pickup!<br /><br />������Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14707811890000105852020-12-23T00:40:15.093-05:002020-12-23T00:40:15.093-05:00My guess is due to the poor diet and bulimia to st...My guess is due to the poor diet and bulimia to stay thin and please Charlie, the girls probably had irregular or no menstrual cycle. This happens to extremely thin athletes. Plus the filthy environment and drugs didn’t help. Rock N. Rollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670821727767755900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-79889211349164482352020-12-22T20:55:49.940-05:002020-12-22T20:55:49.940-05:00Re Deb's reply: Thank you. Sorry, I was clea...Re Deb's reply: Thank you. Sorry, I was clearly being anachronistic. In the UK contraception is free. I didn't think they'd have to pay for pills because of all those purported free clinics anyway. What a strange angle to explore!Milly Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03612495681178122993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-43393737518398661412020-12-22T19:14:38.274-05:002020-12-22T19:14:38.274-05:00Blogger Peter said...
David. Dust off your FOIA fo...Blogger Peter said...<br />David. Dust off your FOIA forms.<br />-----------<br /><br />I've made an FOIA request, Peter, but who knows if and when it will be honored? San Francisco is on lockdown right now with only essential personnel going in for work. And this is not something that can be done by someone working from home. The records are likely in cold storage off-site since they are so old.<br /><br />I've had my money returned from Los Angeles for a death certificate request and that's a fairly simple request. California is suffering a stay at home order at this time. Once things open back up there's going to be a backlog of requests to be dealt with!DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-5243926174986314812020-12-22T19:04:29.668-05:002020-12-22T19:04:29.668-05:00It is amazing, Milly, especially since women's...It is amazing, Milly, especially since women's lib was hitting its stride about that time.<br /><br />I doubt that any of the women were using contraception. It would have been difficult for the women to see a doctor or go to a clinic to get the prescription because they were rarely alone. And then there was the cost, how would they have paid for the pills monthly?<br /><br />DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47443084079419983542020-12-22T18:15:30.566-05:002020-12-22T18:15:30.566-05:00I find this amazing.
Women signed their own slave...I find this amazing.<br /><br />Women signed their own slavery contract!? Of course, we all know women weren't high in the pecking order family style but to put their signatures to it???!!!<br /><br />Weren't Squeaky and Sandra well trained to be autonomous, for example?<br /><br />Also, given the purported amount of sexual activity going on, the women must surely have been taking the pill on the quiet. Very few babies. Of course, there was a bad diet and drugs... did they just have a lot of early miscarriages? <br /><br />Milly Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03612495681178122993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-57918953420452888252020-12-22T18:15:12.024-05:002020-12-22T18:15:12.024-05:00DebS typed :
Do you recognize any of the other na...DebS typed :<br /><br /><b>Do you recognize any of the other names?</b><br /><br />Looking at the second signature from the bottom, the last name seems to have a "G" and "ll", which would most likely be Cathy Gillies. Some of the others are somewhat legible, but I don't recognize any of the names. Regardless of when this book was compiled, the signatures may not be from 1969, since I don't think Dennis Rice hooked up with the Family till 1970.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13094511514174923772020-12-22T16:53:51.259-05:002020-12-22T16:53:51.259-05:00David. Dust off your FOIA forms. David. Dust off your FOIA forms. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760641498649508874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-56961939977629080272020-12-22T11:41:54.011-05:002020-12-22T11:41:54.011-05:00Whatta ya know....Helter Skelter came with a handb...Whatta ya know....Helter Skelter came with a handbook!AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63572861693189194632020-12-22T11:26:09.270-05:002020-12-22T11:26:09.270-05:00DebS thanks for the clarification. I got my dates...DebS thanks for the clarification. I got my dates confused....starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48581824162378854432020-12-22T07:11:35.851-05:002020-12-22T07:11:35.851-05:00Who'll get the family bible?Who'll get the family bible?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760641498649508874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-91645515589877834692020-12-22T00:35:09.626-05:002020-12-22T00:35:09.626-05:00Why would the newspaper and SF PD lie about where ...Why would the newspaper and SF PD lie about where the book was seized? If San Francisco had the book, they were the ones to seize it.<br /><br />Read Sandy's bio at Cielo Drive. Sandy and Lyn did not move to Sacramento until 1973.<br /><br />http://www.cielodrive.com/sandra-good.phpDebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15898203463396249872020-12-21T22:31:03.777-05:002020-12-21T22:31:03.777-05:00"Fromme now stands accused of trying to assas..."Fromme now stands accused of trying to assassinate President Gerald Ford in Sacramento earlier this month. In the 1972 arrest police seized the evidence which included "The Book of the Dead." "<br /><br />Sounds to me like the Sacramento PD or the Secret Service seized the book from her and Sandy's apt in Sacramento, not SF.starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-88669124468580027112020-12-21T17:33:19.601-05:002020-12-21T17:33:19.601-05:00Gorodish, thanks! According to Sandy, in the news...Gorodish, thanks! According to Sandy, in the newspaper story, the book was put together in 1969 so I thought there was a chance it was Sunshine Pierce. Do you recognize any of the other names? DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-40631972397543916122020-12-21T16:13:57.173-05:002020-12-21T16:13:57.173-05:00DebS - I blew up the picture and figured out that ...DebS - I blew up the picture and figured out that it is not Sunshine Pierce's signature. He was ancient history by 1972. What it reads is "Dennis Rice" and right underneath it is "(fatherman)" in parentheses.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39009265109013208242020-12-21T14:52:24.506-05:002020-12-21T14:52:24.506-05:00It took looking at DEAD with all the letters, in t...It took looking at DEAD with all the letters, in the bottom photo to make me see the mostly gone initial D in the one at the top. I feel much better having solved the spelling problem.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90525769770016612752020-12-21T11:38:07.141-05:002020-12-21T11:38:07.141-05:00After the TLB murders Sandy and Lynette moved up t...After the TLB murders Sandy and Lynette moved up to the San Francisco Bay Area for a time. It was a natural progression, Charlie was initially housed at San Quentin. If you recall during Lynette's trial for the assassination attempt there were witnesses that testified to taking Lynette to a shooting range near San Francisco. No doubt that law enforcement was keeping tabs on Family members, especially the members closest to Charlie and anyone they associated with. Once the arrests were made for the Willett's murders San Francisco was likely asked to interview known associates of Lynette and the book was taken into custody at that time.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.com