tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post5248617504008392617..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: In Memory of Dennis RiceMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23646403619065070662020-02-26T07:54:42.684-05:002020-02-26T07:54:42.684-05:00Date of Dennis passing and age of Diane von Ahn ti...Date of Dennis passing and age of Diane von Ahn time arrest at Barker's<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049974826964490818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75065866654717802602020-02-26T07:52:41.507-05:002020-02-26T07:52:41.507-05:00When did Dennis passWhen did Dennis passAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049974826964490818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64740647169032433232019-10-27T22:32:11.893-04:002019-10-27T22:32:11.893-04:00Do you mean once a con or one a con...Go back to s...Do you mean once a con or one a con...Go back to school.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13790998365797874398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63754543768342927432018-11-25T04:49:09.939-05:002018-11-25T04:49:09.939-05:00Jenny: Yes.
Jenny: Yes.<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-20333485248750241252018-11-24T20:03:21.263-05:002018-11-24T20:03:21.263-05:00Is that Robert Hendrickson/ Mr. Hendrickson that m...Is that Robert Hendrickson/ Mr. Hendrickson that man that made the documentary?<br /><br /><br />WeJennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08180909249960338488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-71370490839635551592018-07-22T17:50:32.669-04:002018-07-22T17:50:32.669-04:00AgreedAgreedMama Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17575880962915818819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76600012011849104272015-07-13T13:06:40.670-04:002015-07-13T13:06:40.670-04:00Robert Hendrickson said...
'Hey Grimm Traveler...Robert Hendrickson said...<br />'Hey Grimm Traveler: I love YOUR "paradoxes" comment.<br /><br />Can you give me your take on Manson's comment at the end of MANSON 1973 movie: "I've been pay'in for YOUR sins for two thousand years - I'm getting tired of paying for your sins." ?'<br /><br /><br /><br />I think Charlie was boxing clever there. Again being paradoxical and “reflecting” his perception of the media’s perception of him as this guy that implied he was Christ, “the hippie cult leader.” But also not taking responsibility for what lay behind his conviction. Even to this day {or at least in the most recent books about him} he speaks of how the whole shebang was dumped on him........like he was/is paying for other peoples' shit.<br /><br /><br />Embrosia said...<br />"I honestly can't see why a father would leave his kids with a bunch of strangers"<br /><br /><br /><br />No strange thing here in England, the amount of kids in care and Dads that won’t care for them.<br /><br /><br />Embrosia said...<br />"I never really understood why Manson wanted the children separated from their parent" <br /><br /><br /><br />I think Charlie is a paradox ~ “out there” in some ways, just like anyone else in others. After all he’s human. He hurts. He bleeds. He gets pissed off. He laughs. He can be spiteful; “I never had my mommy. Neither will you !”<br />Remember, for all the pain she caused him, he made it to the age of 32 without his Mum so he possibly felt that children could survive without parents. <br /><br /><br />Mr. Humphrat said...<br />"I think a person can do horrible things and then turn their life around. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most of the people in the Manson group were very young and have had decades to grow up"<br /><br /><br />Absolutely. People change. There are different levels of change. Some of the group seem to have changed in jail. There have been people that did outrageous things in war that are now different people. Also, part of the reason why some of the TLB killers have appeared to change their stories could be simply that they grew up. They realized the world wasn't coming to a close, they were facing life in prison and they woke up. "Cripes ! I didn't bargain for this !!"<br /><br /><br /><br />Vermouth Brilliantine said...<br />"Everyone getting their hands dirty would have just tied them even closer to Charlie, and given him more power over them. Especially because, as the only one with any criminal experience, they'd naturally turn to him for Guidance (and also to help clean up their messes...)"<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Yeah, worked wonders for Bobby.<br /><br /><br />D. LaCalandra said...<br />"Well, that's pretty much what Atkins said in her last book. That after Crowe, he was trying to get the hands dirty of everyone who knew"<br /><br /><br /><br />I think there’s some truth in that. That it blew up in his face tells us what a great idea it was.<br /><br /><br /><br />TomG said...<br /><br />"The search for truth should be ongoing. And without prejudice. <br />There isn't a single nation, or church, or ideaology that has the world figured out"<br /><br />To that, all I can say as one that has for the last 30 years lived the experience that begins with being born again, the search for truth with Christ <i>is</i> ongoing. I know many of my number feel that life kind of stops because the <i>major</i> question has been answered. But it’s a journey, a street that never ends because God is not static, but dynamic. And not easy to constantly gauge. The error, for me at least, is in referring to oneself as ‘born again’ in an ongoing sense. I know why we do it, it’s making a statement of sorts, that life has begun again. But for me, it’s a daft term. When I was an atheist, I didn’t walk around referring to myself as ‘born’. I’ve long told people, I only ever had one birthday and I can’t remember it ! What I’ve had since is a date of birth. I was ‘born again’ 30 years ago and it’s been a fruitful journey since, full of mistakes, love, stupidity, some truly inspired moments, great memories, average living, insights and events that are too shameful or embarrassing for me to think about.....<br />And it hasn’t finished yet.<br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-56087426248783903572015-07-10T09:47:33.578-04:002015-07-10T09:47:33.578-04:00Blogger william marshall said...
Yes Col we usuall...<br />Blogger william marshall said...<br />Yes Col we usually don't agree on most things but on this one absolutely & I miss your blog Hello Matt Ms Patty Mr Hendrickson & my friend Equinox<br /><br />Hi William,<br /><br />Hope you are keeping well at the moment and continue to go from strength to strength. God Bless You, my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-60349485052118543182015-07-10T00:24:58.249-04:002015-07-10T00:24:58.249-04:00At the end of their rope, I guess people want to b...At the end of their rope, I guess people want to believe in something, and will fall back into what their folks believed in. <br />But that isn't fact. It's human frailty. <br />The search for truth should be ongoing. And without prejudice. <br />There isn't a single nation, or church, or ideaology that has the world figured out.<br /><br />If I'm in the wrong, show me where I'm wrong. Peace.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48571195886354533912015-07-09T23:38:51.254-04:002015-07-09T23:38:51.254-04:00Well, let me put you to it this way,
You can mora...Well, let me put you to it this way,<br /><br />You can moralize and feel good about yourself because you never committed a violent crime.. On the other hand, what causes this kind of aggression?<br /><br />Do Canadians act this way? Do Finnish people act this way? Do Mexicans act this way? This King of the Hill win or lose or go home way of thinking.<br /><br />But fuck all of yall. You getting your ass kicked by ISIS like you get your ass kicked by everybody that fights back. They leaving the Gays alone now.<br /><br />So pick on the Hispanics, Donald Trump. That be your downfall.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-20933729456391417622015-07-09T22:15:45.514-04:002015-07-09T22:15:45.514-04:00Well, that's pretty much what Atkins said in h...Well, that's pretty much what Atkins said in her last book. That after Crowe, he was trying to get the hands dirty of everyone who knew.<br /><br />Here is a general quote from online:<br /><br />"Soldiers and close associates are expected to follow any orders and to eventually participate in a mafia related killing at some time, thus binding them to their officially affiliated crime family, associate faction or group and to determine their loyalty and trustworthiness"<br /><br />Kinda makes you wonder about his disappearing acts on the night of LaBianca. But then again (a lot of then agains in this case), nobody ever forced Kasabian to bloody her knife.<br /><br />As I said, in Atkins book, she pretty much said after Crowe, the summer of '69 was about Manson trying to bind everyone to him. <br /><br />Kinda scary when you consider Poston said Manson told him if he loved him, he'd kill the Sheriff. But we don't know how much of what was said as jokes and in jist that Poston made seem like it was serious. He seemed like a kid who took everything litterarlly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-40663561054333175352015-07-09T21:40:54.268-04:002015-07-09T21:40:54.268-04:00Wow, RH and LaCalandra. That motive on Charlie'...Wow, RH and LaCalandra. That motive on Charlie's part makes sense to me as one of the considerations. Everyone gets their hands dirty. No one rats on me.Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574243483977353223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-8580410978267215342015-07-09T17:54:58.362-04:002015-07-09T17:54:58.362-04:00I don't think there was anything random about ...I don't think there was anything random about the murders though and despite what a lot of people think and Bugliosi's notion he's a blood thristy mass murderer, I don't believe senseless violence is something Charlie is into. I actually do believe he has a moral code and can and will get his hands dirty when he feels it's necessary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17220552020910624292015-07-09T17:54:39.591-04:002015-07-09T17:54:39.591-04:00The sequel to Manson 73.......
Inside the Manson F...The sequel to Manson 73.......<br />Inside the Manson Family?<br />Nope, Inside the Manson GANGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-33756262618225696382015-07-09T14:46:22.286-04:002015-07-09T14:46:22.286-04:00Dinner = rogue LAPD cops!
Probably not, I read to...Dinner = rogue LAPD cops!<br /><br />Probably not, I read too much Ellroy...MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-82025610731936399682015-07-09T10:28:34.232-04:002015-07-09T10:28:34.232-04:00FUNNY - I said to myself: "Self, if anyone ca...FUNNY - I said to myself: "Self, if anyone can begin to grasp "Gang Initiation" it will be La Calandra."<br /><br />In LA, we are having murders - as usual - BUT something about these current ones is NOT usual. The only thing common to them is NO commonality. <br /><br />So we also have a radio show with a team of hosts who really get down and put their heads together concerning news stories. AND they rang a bell. <br /><br />FIRST they came-up with "random" KILLINGS, BUT "killers" with something in common --- DING, DONG !<br /><br />THEN, one spouted out: "It could be a "GANG" initiation ! Certain Gang initiations demand that YOUR "first" KILLING be "random."<br /><br />AND of course, IF YOU can KILL "anyone" for NO reason - YOU can KILL<br />"ANYONE." DING, DONG, DING, DONG.<br /><br />Thing of the above as the appatizer - anyone know what's for dinner ?Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17163808286937362852015-07-09T08:07:53.181-04:002015-07-09T08:07:53.181-04:00D. LaCalandra: "I'm not sure killing woul...D. LaCalandra: "I'm not sure killing would have been needed to reach ONE. Unless it was Manson's way to make sure all got their hands dirty to have something on them unless they opened their holes about Crowe and Hinman...."<br />I'm starting to think that factored into it to some degree. Everyone getting their hands dirty would have just tied them even closer to Charlie, and given him more power over them. Especially because, as the only one with any criminal experience, they'd naturally turn to him for Guidance (and also to help clean up their messes... tho cleaning up after a bunch of angry middle-class kids acting out against Daddy couldn't have been a lot of Fun). <br /><br />"Dennis believed in sky fairies. What a loser."<br />I can think of worse stars to hitch your wagon to.Guida Diehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881861444442344243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90519039281193675962015-07-09T02:15:44.023-04:002015-07-09T02:15:44.023-04:00I'd like to her about the gang initiation moti...I'd like to her about the gang initiation motive. Manson shooting Crowe, Bobby offing Hinman...was it Tex's turn to step up to the plate? Davis and Clem did theirs with Shorty. But then again, this seemed like a fairly tight knit bunch. I'm not sure killing would have been needed to reach ONE. Unless it was Manson's way to make sure all got their hands dirty to have something on them unless they opened their holes about Crowe and Hinman....BUT the fact nearly everyone and their brother, including Brooks knowing about Crowe and Shea kinda files that in the "nope" folder.<br /><br />But then again, Charlie is a product of the prison system. Where I am pretty sure sticking a knife in somebody can earn you quite a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-81257365178951026512015-07-08T22:14:37.824-04:002015-07-08T22:14:37.824-04:00I think a person can do horrible things and then t...I think a person can do horrible things and then turn their life around. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most of the people in the Manson group were very young and have had decades to grow up. I don't know why Dennis Rice would go preach in prisons if he didn't believe his own message. He could have stayed away from prisons and not be reminded of his time there. Yes Col., I know I'm stupid-thank you in advance. Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574243483977353223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14598026773215904612015-07-08T21:30:29.546-04:002015-07-08T21:30:29.546-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ajerseydevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307773867621679673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-49386228874687196762015-07-08T21:27:45.183-04:002015-07-08T21:27:45.183-04:00J.E may I recommend a good Psychiatrist You defini...J.E may I recommend a good Psychiatrist You definitely have some issues Ajerseydevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307773867621679673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59938030375666770582015-07-08T20:01:50.787-04:002015-07-08T20:01:50.787-04:00Hi William! XoHi William! XoPatty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44574742884799193112015-07-08T20:01:07.008-04:002015-07-08T20:01:07.008-04:00D. Lacalandra thanks for the tidbit about Shorty S...D. Lacalandra thanks for the tidbit about Shorty Shea. Patty always wondered which girl was there.Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75677224274251228102015-07-08T18:35:45.210-04:002015-07-08T18:35:45.210-04:00I never really understood why Manson wanted the ch...I never really understood why Manson wanted the children separated from their parent. I know that he did it because he believed that parents filled their child's head with shit, but I feel like it goes much deeper than that. His childhood, as been told millions of times, has been quite harsh for him but then again, he's the one that messed that up completely. His mother probably was the huge figure behind the whole 'separation of child and parent.' I feel like I just rambled on, sorry. <br /><br />Robert, I don't know anything about the 'Gang Initiation Motive,' but I do know what Gang Initiation means. <br />Embrosiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615006244682419189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-1926858404692107202015-07-08T17:11:47.198-04:002015-07-08T17:11:47.198-04:00Embrosia - I agree. As any father would tell you, ...Embrosia - I agree. As any father would tell you, it goes against your every instinct. <br /><br />Then again, one can see why Manson might have deep-seated personal reasons for wanting to diminish the importance of the role of the parent.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.com