tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post5911073110807609143..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: My Interface With The Manson Family, by Sue Marshall: Part 2 of 3Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-46917089342306375732013-04-06T14:37:39.233-04:002013-04-06T14:37:39.233-04:00The other convicts surely aren't saying, "...The other convicts surely aren't saying, "I'm using this cell phone to order a hit on a rival cartel leader" or "I'm using this phone to bring a shipment of dangerous illegal drugs into this country", I'll bet.A.C. Fisher-Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12146703303687868689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-56337770779907291712013-04-06T00:46:09.145-04:002013-04-06T00:46:09.145-04:00This series is a breath of well-written fresh air ...This series is a breath of well-written fresh air in our Manson-blog world that regularly shits out half-baked blog posts and barely-literate comments. I'll take a true firsthand account anyday over rehashed "what if" stories, repetitive hate posts and off-topic fluff that I run into elsewhere.<br /><br />Between this rough corner bar and the urbane speakeasy over on cielodrive.com, I get my fill of tasty, refreshing Manson Family.<br /><br />Nice work, Sue.hippiekillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411566271142843758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-86200351593503736662013-04-06T00:44:45.817-04:002013-04-06T00:44:45.817-04:00This series is a breath of well-written fresh air ...This series is a breath of well-written fresh air in the Manson-blog world that regularly shits out half-baked blog posts and barely-literate comments. I'll take a true firsthand account over rehashed "what if" stories, repetitive hate posts and off-topic fluff I run into elsewhere.<br /><br />Between this rough corner bar and the urbane speakeasy over on cielodrive.com, I get my fill of tasty, refreshing Manson Family.hippiekillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411566271142843758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-27249989442885897462013-04-04T10:47:35.538-04:002013-04-04T10:47:35.538-04:00Amelia Sue Marshall said...
Hi Eviliz -
Oops, hop... Amelia Sue Marshall said...<br />Hi Eviliz -<br /><br />Oops, hope I did not let the cat out of the bag by recalling what Sandy Good said about Elf's parentage.<br /><br />-- Sue Marshall<br /><br />April 3, 2013 at 11:46 PM<br /><br />No not at all. I have known it for a long time and I am sure others have too. Your article is the first time I saw Sandy admit it, before it was just rumored.evilizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666335721618878816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-15369000807344341392013-04-04T08:43:01.570-04:002013-04-04T08:43:01.570-04:00I had read somewhere ( a newspaper or magazine art...I had read somewhere ( a newspaper or magazine article) done when the trial was going on but the girls were still at Spahn that they were working on a cape for Charlie and using the hair they cut that July 1969 on the cape and also the hair on the dune buggy of Charlies-the hair on Charlies vest Im guessing was all from when they shaved their heads in 1971 ( will try to find article if I can)candy and nutshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01871828104812368464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-19778963005684210222013-04-04T08:38:05.724-04:002013-04-04T08:38:05.724-04:00When I wrote to Lynette back in 1990, I asked her ...When I wrote to Lynette back in 1990, I asked her about the hair-cut with the long tail-she basically just said it was something they did between the girls and didnt elaborate it on it further I assumed it was something private she didnt really want to discuss so I left it at thatcandy and nutshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01871828104812368464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45679388453119337862013-04-04T00:08:13.740-04:002013-04-04T00:08:13.740-04:00To farflung -
Yes, you do not much overstate the ...To farflung -<br /><br />Yes, you do not much overstate the line of bulls**t that the Mansonite man told our group from the Freep. <br /><br />From our vantage point in the 21st century, many young people do not realize how much police professionalism has improved in the past few decades. In 1969, the LAPD was populated by Irish-American men who felt that they had carte blanche to strut around town insulting persons of color, youth of any sort, and always hippies. Thus, my collegues did not dismiss Clem's line of BS out of hand.<br /><br />-- Sue MarshallAmelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45187571447686621822013-04-04T00:01:10.439-04:002013-04-04T00:01:10.439-04:00To leary7 -
For your information, this pice of wr...To leary7 -<br /><br />For your information, this pice of writing is not journalism. This is a segment of my memoir. I did not keep interview notes from 44 years ago for a story that I neither wrote nor wanted to write.<br /><br />My heart goes out to you that you are one of the many trained journalists who is not marketable in the new world order of media. <br /><br />Perhaps you can vent your frustration by finding a nice blog and writing snarky remarks.<br /><br />-- Sue Marshall<br /><br />Amelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-30428855029020396662013-04-03T23:53:10.584-04:002013-04-03T23:53:10.584-04:00To A.C Fisher Aldag -
Thanks for your comments.
...To A.C Fisher Aldag -<br /><br />Thanks for your comments.<br /><br />Indeed, the Mansonite women were caring for the horses and renting them out. Did any of them lead trail rides?<br /><br />While many of us hippies did live in relaxed standards of housekeeping, it was not the universal norm. My best friend from high school, who grew up with Owsley a frequent visitor and members of the Grateful Dead occasional house guests, has always kept an immaculate home -- a worthy goal to which I still aspire.<br /><br />Finally, do you dispute Ed Sanders' account of the mandatory haircutting to make the vest? Ed was told that Manson had demanded it, and told the girls afterward that it was good that their egos were dead. Sounds coerced to me.<br /><br />-- Sue Marshall<br />Amelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-37481139942446934032013-04-03T23:46:14.792-04:002013-04-03T23:46:14.792-04:00Hi Eviliz -
Oops, hope I did not let the cat out ...Hi Eviliz -<br /><br />Oops, hope I did not let the cat out of the bag by recalling what Sandy Good said about Elf's parentage.<br /><br />-- Sue MarshallAmelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-4847782535594090542013-04-03T23:43:58.729-04:002013-04-03T23:43:58.729-04:00To CieloDrive.com -
The date I visited the Yellow...To CieloDrive.com -<br /><br />The date I visited the Yellow Submarine House?<br /><br />While I was not as organized in keeping an appointments calendar then as I became later, I can bracket the visit to the Gresham house by two events: My first week at the Freep was November 21, and Ed Sanders said that the Mansonites were evicted from there in the "fall of 1969". Ed said he never visited the house, but somehow he obtained the street address, which is in his book "The Family".<br /><br />My best guess is that I was there approximately the first week of December, 1969.<br /><br />-- Sue Marshall<br />Amelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13224829118041965352013-04-03T23:39:34.373-04:002013-04-03T23:39:34.373-04:00Thanks for the vest story, orwhut. The vest probab...Thanks for the vest story, orwhut. The vest probably disintegrated rapidly if Manson cut it up and used it for jailhouse party favors. It probably did not last long enough for Meg Whitman to bring ebay to market.<br /><br />-- Sue Marshall<br /><br />Amelia Sue Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142766636299845609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-24395895557522565872013-04-03T17:48:10.004-04:002013-04-03T17:48:10.004-04:00Thanks Saint!Thanks Saint!CieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-41245651095195564542013-04-03T17:47:38.898-04:002013-04-03T17:47:38.898-04:00I thought Bobby had already confirmed thatI thought Bobby had already confirmed thatCieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-27301916430961464822013-04-03T17:33:38.237-04:002013-04-03T17:33:38.237-04:00I believe that Bobbys the father, Ivan's face ...I believe that Bobbys the father, Ivan's face has Bobby in it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16392890925888602526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-166130457911546562013-04-03T16:47:57.185-04:002013-04-03T16:47:57.185-04:00You have a great website Cielo and I am a long tim...You have a great website Cielo and I am a long time fan...St. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85521934520436550362013-04-03T15:57:03.773-04:002013-04-03T15:57:03.773-04:00Is it true that Bobby is the father of Ivan, or wa...Is it true that Bobby is the father of Ivan, or was that one of Sandra's lies to substantiate the "free Bobby" motive?<br /><br />I knew it was not Joel, the timeline doesn't add up perfectly for that, does it?<br /><br />I an believe Bobby, though.<br /><br />I do like the weasel description of Grogan.<br /><br />Thanks for this, it's nice to have this perspective.Cuntry Trashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05721594982194464895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69404608667136231682013-04-03T15:33:32.681-04:002013-04-03T15:33:32.681-04:00Sorry, I'm a dorkSorry, I'm a dorkCieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-50690573031629023172013-04-03T15:03:10.765-04:002013-04-03T15:03:10.765-04:00Yes Cielo- I stand corrected :)Yes Cielo- I stand corrected :)St. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-1499155087467049172013-04-03T14:40:11.111-04:002013-04-03T14:40:11.111-04:00I guess I have just never considered a blog tp be ...I guess I have just never considered a blog tp be akin to a garden club or tea party. Blogs to me are more like a rough corner bar. If someone is afraid to voice an opinion because it just might illicit a disaproving repsonse then maybe the blogworld is not the place for them.<br />It is what it is...and it ain't no tiptoe through the tulips.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-92121667160945234722013-04-03T14:34:41.421-04:002013-04-03T14:34:41.421-04:00I know what your saying Saint, but for the record ...I know what your saying Saint, but for the record that's not what a Hit is. You're talking about Visits or Unique Visitors. Tens of thousands of hits in a year would be extremely bad. A site like this probably gets that many hits in a dayCieloDrive.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772677089227025942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-42293783465275338122013-04-03T14:17:46.623-04:002013-04-03T14:17:46.623-04:00yeah, I was worried about the manners thing.
But a...yeah, I was worried about the manners thing.<br />But as I have always said, the Irish are blunt in their affections, and even "blunter" in their disaffections.<br />I am simply passionate about good journalism and short-tempered with what I see as 'People' magazine type journalism. I really wanted to keep my opinion to myself but when I saw others gushing over the article I felt obliged to be the grouch.<br />A long nap does sound delicious though.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18156006530378638712013-04-03T13:24:51.511-04:002013-04-03T13:24:51.511-04:00not dismissing you in any way- you just always pos...not dismissing you in any way- you just always post comments to the affect that the subject matter is not very interesting or impressive to you and you just did it again lol so I dont think the thought was too out of line...<br /><br />Leary as a person who put himself out there and wrote some things for public consumption and who got many emails from people from all over- I can tell you personally that many more people would be contributing if they weren't afraid of comments like the one you just made. These sites get tens of thousands of hits every year and yet we only see a small percentage of those who read getting involved. I have been told my many people they don't comment because they don't want to deal with the type of thing your doing right now.<br /><br />and if the thought of having more people not be afraid to contribute doesn't do it for you....<br /><br />How about common manners? Is this any way to treat a guest? lol<br /><br />Some of us really are interested in hearing first hand accounts of these times and people. If they feel like their offerings are going to be critiqued and picked apart- how many of them are going to be willing to keep doing it??<br /><br />offer your ideas and opinions (which are very well put together and articulate) But to criticize her style and abilities is not really going to motivate her to give the rest of us what we are really interested in having- more!!<br /><br />But I called you out- so you can have the last word....<br /><br />I will leave it at that- of course you and everyone else will do as you will<br /><br />St. Circumstancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415891591944887206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32252462656954635502013-04-03T13:23:08.409-04:002013-04-03T13:23:08.409-04:00I think somebody needs a nap.I think somebody needs a nap.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-84760007955256121742013-04-03T13:05:11.215-04:002013-04-03T13:05:11.215-04:00Okay, I'll bite.
Characterizing and dismissing...Okay, I'll bite.<br />Characterizing and dismissing me as "bored" is typical of your playground tactics Saint.<br />I've read both these articles with interest. I just concluded neither was particularly well-written or had much substance.<br />So sue me.<br />In the first article Sue says "if I had bought one of them then (Manson record recording), it would probably be worth ten thousand dollars today."<br />I am not an Ebay guy but is there any evidence whatsoever that Manson recordings sell for huge sums?? If not then that statement of Sue's is nothing but silly and sensationalized conjecture. And really lousy journalism.<br /><br />In this latest article Sue says upon coming to Spahn...<br />"But I was a professional. I was there to do a job. I had come to interview subjects for a news story".<br />Later in the article....<br />"I have no recollection of whatever desultory conversation we had that afternoon."<br /><br />Seriously, am I the only one that sees the red flags here. Where are the interview notes? "No recollection" of conversing with some of the most infamous characters of that time???<br /><br />I hate to be a negative nellie but I spent a decade getting three degrees in journalism and another 18 years working in the field. <br />Sorry, nothing personal, but this is really mediocre journalism.<br /><br />leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.com