tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post60262107317890467..comments2024-03-29T10:47:02.156-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Is Lynette Fromme an Anti-Heroine? Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6554138389531596492022-07-18T22:13:50.395-04:002022-07-18T22:13:50.395-04:00Aw, sheezus pleezus, lolAw, sheezus pleezus, lolLoegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-29142717153499904182022-07-18T21:36:22.980-04:002022-07-18T21:36:22.980-04:00It’s on all threads lol. It’s on all threads lol. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-54213009308145081672022-07-18T21:17:49.562-04:002022-07-18T21:17:49.562-04:00That post is also on the thread re the unsealing o...That post is also on the thread re the unsealing of Polanski's case.Loegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-86948324367874699932022-07-18T19:46:09.591-04:002022-07-18T19:46:09.591-04:00*via a Gmail account, rather. *via a Gmail account, rather. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6965073449619142882022-07-18T19:43:44.303-04:002022-07-18T19:43:44.303-04:00I typically don't remove anyone unless they st...I typically don't remove anyone unless they start with the name calling. The big bosses prolly haven't seen it yet. In all fairness, if I had herpes, I'd want them cured with vitamins delivered with a Gmail account. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48700553024173373362022-07-17T23:14:47.307-04:002022-07-17T23:14:47.307-04:00How'd that frickin' spam get in here?How'd that frickin' spam get in here?<br />Loegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-11041423721916642242022-06-28T21:32:04.618-04:002022-06-28T21:32:04.618-04:00I dunno they didn't have clocks or calendars a...I dunno they didn't have clocks or calendars at the ranch....btw thanks for the laugh, GrimDan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058602981660065969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-21556554487286471462022-06-27T12:44:58.967-04:002022-06-27T12:44:58.967-04:00Mario George Nitrini 111 said...
Yes, I do believ...Mario George Nitrini 111 said...<br /><br /><b>Yes, I do believe that Diane Lake could corroborate lots of situations of what I have commented about on this blog</b><br /><br />Yep, should be pretty easy for her to corroborate the fact that there was a January in 1969 and that someone rode a motorbike in California, sometime.🤫grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-88461293993062948822022-06-26T01:09:10.950-04:002022-06-26T01:09:10.950-04:00I am a bit behind catching up on this blog and apo...I am a bit behind catching up on this blog and apologize in advance if this has already been addressed... but Lynnette...oh Lynette...she is one odd duck. I wonder what Lauren Willet's family thinks of her. Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01571929710287716239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66014940383319379512022-06-26T00:54:51.250-04:002022-06-26T00:54:51.250-04:00I do have to wonder how much help Ms. Lake would b...I do have to wonder how much help Ms. Lake would be to anyone with areas of inquiry on that brief "era". Given her age and relative status within the Manson group, one imagines there was a whole lot that she was not really privy too - and the relevant bits that were of broader interest have long since been shared in the book and various interviews. <br /><br />There could be things that Lake has held back on sharing for whatever reasons, but it is reasonable to imagine her not wanting to share such things (if they even exist) with curious internet dwellers.tobiasragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390878277344521524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47361414505405026432022-06-25T17:56:35.319-04:002022-06-25T17:56:35.319-04:00Yes grimtraveller, I do believe that Diane Lake co...Yes grimtraveller, I do believe that Diane Lake could corroborate lots of situations of what I have commented about on this blog<br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />-------<br />The OJ Simpson Case Mario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14511417935447230572022-06-25T17:51:56.377-04:002022-06-25T17:51:56.377-04:00Mario George Nitrini 111 said:
I would sure like ...Mario George Nitrini 111 said:<br /><br /><b>I would sure like to have a friendly discussion with Diane Lake. I'll bet she could corroborate a lot more of what my Charles Manson Case main focus is about</b><br /><br />You mean Dianne could actually corroborate what you've spent the last 5½ years not telling us and obfuscating about ?<br />Snakes alive ! 🪱 😸 😹grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-54435268397514808652022-06-25T17:50:12.503-04:002022-06-25T17:50:12.503-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31389654357314506752022-06-25T16:18:36.860-04:002022-06-25T16:18:36.860-04:00Thank you Doug & tobiasragg for posting this E...Thank you Doug & tobiasragg for posting this Epix YouTube video <br />⬇️<br />https://youtu.be/RWTMR3EVJzI<br />This is why I read this blog every day.<br /><br />Right around 3:44:00 into the video, Diane lake mentions bikers, and that corroborated for me.....<br />Interesting about the 2 bikers on motorcycles. One was the former Hell's Angels National President George Christie.<br />(Christie has me blocked on Twitter).<br /><br />I would sure like to have a friendly discussion with Diane Lake. I'll bet she could corroborate a lot more of what my Charles Manson Case main focus is about.<br />Hopefully some day.<br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />------<br />The OJ Simpson Case Mario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85994035144336222802022-06-24T04:44:39.278-04:002022-06-24T04:44:39.278-04:00She brought a gun to catalyze a conversation....An...She brought a gun to catalyze a conversation....And Charlie built a dune buggy death squad misogynist pimpdom for the sake of ATWA. Dan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058602981660065969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-87295493181331911792022-06-24T04:40:30.887-04:002022-06-24T04:40:30.887-04:00Thank youThank youDan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058602981660065969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-24513983349174164312022-06-24T02:04:07.565-04:002022-06-24T02:04:07.565-04:00Okay, it turns out I combined other interviews wit...Okay, it turns out I combined other interviews with the Oxygen interviews to tell a more complete story of the Ford matter than what is described in the Oxygen doc. BLue later described the environment-related motivations but, rewatching this now, here are the relevant quotes for those who cannot view. This is preceded by an explanation that one of the other motivations was to be committed to prison so that they could be reunited with the other imprisoned Manson women and stand in incarceration with them:<br /><br />SQUEAKY: I heard that Ford was coming and I thought "oh, I'll go and - I'll go and talk to him." And then I thought "he's not going to talk to YOU, he's not going to stop on his way, he's not going to stop!" And then I thought well, maybe I'll bring a GUN! And I just put the gun out and stuck it in there . . . a secret service agent grabbed it and they had me on the ground, and I was telling them "it's okay - it didn't go off, it's okay!" The guy walked over and he picked up my hand and it was SO relaxed ... and then he was talking to me, and the secret service agent said "who are YOU?"<br /><br />SANDY: We were living together, so they arrested me. And they took me to jail and they wanted to ascertain if there was a conspiracy to assassinate the president of the united states. <br /><br />Some filler narration follows, then:<br /><br />SQUEAKY: I was able to go to the parole board after ten years, but I didn't go to the parole board. I wanted to stay with the girls, with Charlie, with everybody who was inside . . . <br /><br />Narration describes Sandy's crimes and conviction, then:<br /><br />SANDY: I didn't snivel and cry and go to the parole board, I did my time. And then I refused to leave. I said "I don't want out until my people get a fair trial." They had to basically kick me out.<br /><br />We are told that Squeaky was finally paroled after 34 years.<br /><br />SQUEAKY: I've been out for almost ten years. It's hard to be sorry if you're going by your heart. <br /><br />There is further footage out there from these interviews (it might be a part of the "Aftershow" associated with this doc, I can't remember) in which Squeaky speaks of her health-related concerns over remaining in prison, but these are the quotes included in the core doc.<br /><br />tobiasragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390878277344521524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67053507732930692842022-06-24T00:53:21.292-04:002022-06-24T00:53:21.292-04:00Here is the link to the Oxygen documentary: https:...Here is the link to the Oxygen documentary: https://www.oxygen.com/manson-the-women/season-1/manson-the-women<br /><br />If you have a TV provider that you subscribe to (they offer a long list to choose from) you can log in using your credentials with that provider and view this for free.<br /><br />It is about one hour and twenty seven minutes and well worth the watch. The basic background information on Charlie and the formation and evolution of the family is presented, but it is in service to these four women and their personal stories. Squeaky, Sandy, Gypsy & Snake, each speaks in very personal terms about their thoughts and experiences throughout the entire journey. Two Manson-related authors are included to provide context, but the emphasis is on the "why" and "this is how I felt about what was happening" versus the factual, murder-focused stuff.<br /><br />This is exactly why I love this documentary as much as I do. While something like the six-part Epix documentary does an excellent historical & sociological deep-dive (perhaps the deepest we've seen on video) into the entire thing, "Manson: The Women" provides an experiential and highly personal insight into why and how it all evolved the way it did. I find this to be about the most intimate view into the Manson experience as we're ever likely to get, all told by four women with vastly different points-of-view on that period in their lives.tobiasragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390878277344521524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66633670489923720972022-06-24T00:49:32.062-04:002022-06-24T00:49:32.062-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.tobiasragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390878277344521524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63146923374336982272022-06-24T00:37:13.807-04:002022-06-24T00:37:13.807-04:00Wah, why isn't there an edit function here, lo...Wah, why isn't there an edit function here, lol?<br /><br />And there's this ABC - not Oxygen - docoseries, from which the last link I posted has been taken.<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCeX27buugLoegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39227070223137045632022-06-24T00:30:23.228-04:002022-06-24T00:30:23.228-04:00...from 2019, in reference to the above....from 2019, in reference to the above.Loegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65368038727266343332022-06-24T00:29:25.194-04:002022-06-24T00:29:25.194-04:00Here's Squeaky & Dianne:
https://www.youtu...Here's Squeaky & Dianne:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCeX27buugLoegria15https://www.blogger.com/profile/05228022510504226954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-16988793016913545702022-06-23T23:36:33.121-04:002022-06-23T23:36:33.121-04:00DAN: "Thank you t-rag; would you try to say ...DAN: "Thank you t-rag; would you try to say why squeaky did it according to her?"<br /><br />Yes, I can paraphrase very accurately what Fromme shares of the Ford matter. Fromme appears to be very subdued or toned down in this Oxygen documentary on the Manson women compared to her previous self. Her face has filled out with time and age and her hair has been dyed a very nice darker auburn-red, rather than the brilliant red of old or the frazzled gray we've seen in more recent parking lot pics. Her face is weathered and deeply creased with age, and she wears little granny bifocal specs. She sits quite comfortably in a nice, comforting setting, with an electric fireplace flickering to her side. Her tone and demeanor are very sober and reasonable. A hint of the old Squeaky peeks through, but here she speaks as an older and perhaps wiser - or at least more grounded - Squeaky Fromme. In fact, she seems almost crazily normal, which is part of why she remains such a mystery to me.<br /><br />Lyn tells us that she had some serious concerns over the state of the environment and, when she heard that the President would be coming to town, she decided to try and talk to him about it. And then, she says, she did a rethink - thinking to herself, "oh, he'll never talk to ME!" That is when the idea to take a gun occurred to her, she says. That way, she will attract his attention and then he'll sit down and pause to talk with her. I believe she says that she didn't load the gun, could be wrong on that point. But she does state that she had no intention of shooting the President or even trying to. <br /><br />I cannot remember if Lyn speaks of the immediate aftermath (her trial resembled the original Manson trials in some ways), but she does state that she did a whole lot of years for that action and she speaks of resisting the idea of parole or release for a very long time. Finally she states that she was experiencing struggles with her health and that it is very difficult to look after your health behind bars, so her attitude toward parole began to change. Her tone and demeanor throughout is, again, hauntingly normal. I don't know what to make of it, other than to say that it seems to me that prison may have subdued her - rather than actually breaking her. She doesn't seem angry or resentful or indignant or anything of the sort. Just kind of factual, and without much emotional expression at all. <br /><br />Again, one can watch this on Oxygen's website if one has a cable or satellite (or streaming, I guess) account. I rewatched maybe ten minutes last night and I'll do another dip here in a few moments. Another thing that stuck with me is that Blue speaks quite extensively about Charlie and her time within the family, but I cannot recall Lyn ever really mentioning much about it. I could be forgetting things that she said though, I imagine I'll find out shortly.<br /><br />tobiasragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390878277344521524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-35333374216038355552022-06-23T21:11:43.793-04:002022-06-23T21:11:43.793-04:00*seeing*seeingG. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85593650812694820582022-06-23T21:11:10.851-04:002022-06-23T21:11:10.851-04:00Dunno if it's a Blogger issue or what but I se...Dunno if it's a Blogger issue or what but I see several comments in there that should not have been. People saying nice things to one another and xyz. Maybe that's the reason. Blogger saying commenters being friendly and said nope something is up. G. Greene-Whytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16687404262559321867noreply@blogger.com