tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post6288825405197741926..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: When Sandy met CharlieMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70522216964012645832012-07-24T00:14:00.826-04:002012-07-24T00:14:00.826-04:00WORD UPWORD UPPatty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-60546073785803234062012-07-23T21:57:08.241-04:002012-07-23T21:57:08.241-04:00Panamint Patty said...
Could it have been "Vi...Panamint Patty said...<br />Could it have been "Vicki?"<br /><br />I am so behind on the blog but while catching up before I even saw what Patty asked, I thought "Vicki" also.<br />You all might have read about Vicki in CM NOW.<br /><br />I am like I said way behind so who even knows if anyone will read this since I responded so late but-"Vicki" has been around since Mark Turner had a message board. She was known around M town by the screen name "Wheat." I am sure at least ONE person here has/had beef with her.evilizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666335721618878816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36431933982331797672012-07-21T23:35:47.178-04:002012-07-21T23:35:47.178-04:00i think they had the tv on all day as the news was...i think they had the tv on all day as the news was breaking news and interrupted regular programming.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48785374263067462422012-07-21T09:55:02.294-04:002012-07-21T09:55:02.294-04:00Good point Farflung! How DID they know what time t...Good point Farflung! How DID they know what time the news came onAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05429480675663888991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-43192615552566915472012-07-20T23:59:42.581-04:002012-07-20T23:59:42.581-04:00beauders said...
yes, paul watkins was marrie...beauders said...<br /><br /> yes, paul watkins was married to a woman named martha. they had two daughters and martha died a few years ago.<br /><br />Thanx for that Beauders, I thought so, haven't had time to verify it for sure. That woman said that "Martha" wanted to take her 2 daughters to visit Manson but he wouldn't see her. She said she killed herself shortly afterward. Of course I don't know if that's true, she did say it was sad to hear Martha died though. <br /><br />I just talked to that woman again for about 1 hour, she didn't say much this time. I told her the Star City show was at 8 on Sunday, she said she might be able to make it by 9.sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-11305443184860965002012-07-20T23:45:35.538-04:002012-07-20T23:45:35.538-04:00yes, paul watkins was married to a woman named mar...yes, paul watkins was married to a woman named martha. they had two daughters and martha died a few years ago.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-49727333753699205752012-07-20T21:04:23.208-04:002012-07-20T21:04:23.208-04:00Awesome read Matt! Thanks!Awesome read Matt! Thanks!Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05429480675663888991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-79973004136756916672012-07-20T19:58:40.277-04:002012-07-20T19:58:40.277-04:00What secondary source is there regarding Kasabian’...What secondary source is there regarding Kasabian’s arrival at Spahn’s? I’m aware of her testimony but it is one of those few absolutes in a story filled with smoke and foam.<br /><br />Was it really the Fourth of July, Independence Day, when Linda gained her ‘independence’ while coincidentally being a date the most drug addled and whip sawn of brains could recall? I know that none of the family members will be any help because it has been published and published how clocks and calendars weren’t allowed at the ranch, as part of Charlie’s mind control. Ooo-ee-ooo. Did Squeaky remember because the ranch was especially busy with it being a three day week-end and nice weather? Apparently Tex wasn’t too tuckered out since he was a temporary bone donor to Linda that day. When Linda was sleeping on the roof or in the cave and being all groovy, did she trip on all the amazing colors from the fireworks that night? Hmmm….. kind of a dull Fourth.<br /><br />Yet everyone’s suspension of disbelief is back at ramming speed, when the TV is dramatically tuned to the news on the Tate murders. How would they know what time the news comes on?<br /><br />Is there a police report which Melton filed over the lost $5,000 dollars or was Charlie’s threat of opening a can of whoop-ass enough to scare away Melton and Mr. Kasabian?Farflunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17723130825592879022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44860537662977470252012-07-20T17:58:23.051-04:002012-07-20T17:58:23.051-04:00Right!Right!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-60397697272516390782012-07-20T15:53:21.109-04:002012-07-20T15:53:21.109-04:00ummm, except for the Linda thing...
so, probably ...ummm, except for the Linda thing...<br /><br />so, probably not.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-9220424770688481022012-07-20T15:25:13.137-04:002012-07-20T15:25:13.137-04:00Matt, Patty is reading the convo over at SCR right...Matt, Patty is reading the convo over at SCR right now and y'know, if she's a fake, she's a damned good one. Her story is pretty airtight.Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31170450402073871262012-07-20T14:41:48.422-04:002012-07-20T14:41:48.422-04:00Could it have been "Vicki?"Could it have been "Vicki?"Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48491102793565340152012-07-20T14:08:03.306-04:002012-07-20T14:08:03.306-04:00Starship, I doubt Jimmy would have made the obviou...Starship, I doubt Jimmy would have made the obvious error on the timing of LK's arrival at Spahn, unless he was just screwing with people on a different plane than he usually does.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32363556077897379712012-07-20T14:01:22.259-04:002012-07-20T14:01:22.259-04:00Matt said...especially since I missed the program....Matt said...especially since I missed the program.<br /><br />It wasn't a program, it was after the "bonus" chat Brian had Wednesday night. I had to leave the bonus chat early but I came back later. There were only 4 of us on. JohnnySeattle, Me, another anon, and this person. <br /><br />That chat room is open all the time and people pop in and out. Yes, I hope she comes back again also, she tried to come back on there yesterday I'm pretty sure and posted about 3 comments. I just missed her by a few minutes.sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85459929058470814702012-07-20T13:21:36.184-04:002012-07-20T13:21:36.184-04:00Just shooting my mouth off, of course, but from re...Just shooting my mouth off, of course, but from reading what you all have written here about the chat room 'family' member I would bet it may be a certain Mr. JimNY from Staten Island, NY.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-22731604663162355282012-07-20T12:19:36.852-04:002012-07-20T12:19:36.852-04:00I don't need to stand my cattle in a creek to ...I don't need to stand my cattle in a creek to smell shit, but for the moment I have to give the benefit of the doubt - especially since I missed the program.<br /><br />Hopefully she returns.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17998516221232247392012-07-20T10:25:33.235-04:002012-07-20T10:25:33.235-04:00Matt said...
My mind is open. However when I ...Matt said...<br /><br /> My mind is open. However when I heard that she left Spahn May 20 but also knew LK my bullshit detector went off.<br /><br />Someone said they'd smelled BS, she said, "then you better get your bulls out of the creek honey"sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-495024682308076882012-07-20T10:18:57.660-04:002012-07-20T10:18:57.660-04:00My mind is open. However when I heard that she lef...My mind is open. However when I heard that she left Spahn May 20 but also knew LK my bullshit detector went off.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67305449279639665112012-07-20T09:19:42.542-04:002012-07-20T09:19:42.542-04:00Matt said...
But if she left Spahn on May 20 ...Matt said...<br /><br /> But if she left Spahn on May 20 she would never have met Kasabian<br /><br />One of the first questions was "did you know Kasabian", she said yes. I asked "did you ever meet "Sexy Sadie", she said "yes". I asked if she had ever been arrested in a Spahn ranch raid, she said no. I asked if she knew Dee Dee Landsbury, she said no. <br /><br />Where she was at and what she was doing at a given time was somewhat unclear, possibly deliberately, she mentioned several times that she was old, I think she said she was 15 when she first went to the ranch. Also, I think she was smoking pot as she was chatting. <br /><br />She said "billy" (Garretson) was a lookout the night of the murders. She said she read the Sanders book and laughed. She said it was very sad when she heard "Martha" died. We were talking about Paul Watkins, I'll have to determine if Watkins had a wife named Martha. <br /><br />She said she was closest to "Red and Blue". Said her ex husband was a Hells Angel. Said her husband didn't wear his HA colors when they went to Spahn. Said Charlie called her husband "Red and White" (HA colors). Said Manson was working on a car the first time she seen him. <br /><br />She said she visited one of the girls in prison, she wouldn't say which one. She said she sent letters and I think a set of drums to Charlie in prison. <br /><br />How much of what she said is true, or even who she is I don't know. It may just all be BS, but some of it sounded real.sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45607013132944804672012-07-20T05:00:11.580-04:002012-07-20T05:00:11.580-04:00But if she left Spahn on May 20 she would never ha...But if she left Spahn on May 20 she would never have met Kasabian.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17683163018245106172012-07-20T01:48:41.844-04:002012-07-20T01:48:41.844-04:00eviliz said...
Matt is Ivan's father. :)~
Mat...eviliz said...<br />Matt is Ivan's father. :)~<br /><br />Matt looks rather young. How old was he when he and Sandy hooked up?orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-46600401941912977392012-07-20T01:26:10.012-04:002012-07-20T01:26:10.012-04:00eviliz said...
Who do you think it was? Do tell....eviliz said... <br /><br />Who do you think it was? Do tell. <br /><br />I don't know who it was, she didn't want to give out her name. JohnnySeattle kept trying to get her to e-mail Brian Davis, I don't know if she will or not.<br /><br />She apparently knew a great many details, she said Kasabian was at the Tate house 3 times on the day of the murders doing drugs. She seemed to think the murders were about drugs. I'm not so sure about some of the things she said. <br /><br />She said she might come back and bring someone with her. Apparently, she has some pretty good inside info, whether it's all true or not, I don't know.sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39288022283961177222012-07-20T00:35:09.967-04:002012-07-20T00:35:09.967-04:00Matt is Ivan's father. :)~Matt is Ivan's father. :)~evilizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666335721618878816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-64148043195978289702012-07-20T00:34:41.164-04:002012-07-20T00:34:41.164-04:00Al said...
Wasn't Ivan's father the one th...Al said...<br />Wasn't Ivan's father the one that was shot in the hotel in England?<br /><br />Noevilizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666335721618878816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-62832010854225156902012-07-20T00:33:45.641-04:002012-07-20T00:33:45.641-04:00AustinAnn74 said...
Can I please ask: Is Ivan Pugh...AustinAnn74 said...<br />Can I please ask: Is Ivan Pugh the son of Charles Manson? I know in the pictures they took of him when he was a baby, and also on videos I have seen, he looks a lot like Manson. Just wanted to ask.<br /><br /><br />Noevilizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07666335721618878816noreply@blogger.com