tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post6694505683620738515..comments2024-03-28T23:53:16.262-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: ParoleMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69181812097177404792021-07-22T13:29:37.972-04:002021-07-22T13:29:37.972-04:00whitelace said:
They wouldn't even be breathi...whitelace said:<br /><br /><b>They wouldn't even be breathing air had their sentences not been commuted</b><br /><br />But they were commuted.<br />It's a kind of pointless statement that goes nowhere. You wouldn't be alive if, when you were at school, a city destroying missile being tested had gone astray and landed on the building in which you went to school while you were there.<br />But it didn't.<br /><br /><b>I wouldn't want any of them in my community</b><br /><br />If any of them were in your community anonymously, you wouldn't know and it would make no difference to your life. Come to think of it, even if you did know, the only difference it would make to you would be the difference you allowed it to make. Are you happy to let figures that you don't even know, exercise that much power in your life and thinking ?<br /><br /><b>They have been sentenced. To life. Enforce it</b><br /><br />They have been sentenced and it <i>is</i> being enforced. They weren't just sentenced to life, they were sentenced to life <i>with the possibility of parole</i>. However wrong one may think that is, that is the sentence they got. It is being enforced. There is the possibility of parole, not the guarantee. So every so often, they are entitled, by law, to apply for parole. If you apply for it, you've got to put forward a convincing case and if you feel you are being unfairly treated, you must say so and back it up.<br />Your comments highlight precisely why the law is not, and shouldn't be left to be made by, the general public.<br />I'm actually unclear as to what it is you have an issue with !<br /><br /><b>Parole hearings are a waste of time and money</b><br /><br />To whom ? You ?<br />I have a personal rule of thumb when I make comments about the plight of someone else ~ I consider how I'd feel if the comments, or what they might suggest, were used against me or loved ones of mine. Even if I/we had slipped up and done something criminal.<br /><br /><b>What's a travesty is Tex Watson having fathered 4 children</b><br /><br />His 4 kids might not feel that way !<br />But it's frankly daft to rag on Tex for that, while conveniently ignoring the reality that he had a wife who was willingly complicit in that arrangement and also, the state of California allowed this. If something is legal, it's legal.<br /><br /><b>And Lynette Fromme being paroled after an assassination attempt on the President</b><br /><br />Well, even to this day, it is unclear if it was even an attempt to assassinate the Prez.<br />I think her reasons as she stated them ~ to highlight the plight of the convicted foursome and enable them to represent themselves in a new trial ~ were thoroughly misguided and pretty stupid. And they failed. <br />But she didn't ask to be paroled. In fact, she frequently went the other way.<br />I think Squeaky had the weirdest form of survivor guilt that I've ever heard of ! <br /><br /><b>And every day they desperately want freedom</b><br /><br />I'm not so sure that that is the case at this stage. I sometimes suspect that at times parole is reached for <i>because it is there to be reached for</i>. When you've been inside for 52 years, I wonder just how desperate a person is to live on the outside. I'm not saying they don't want it, obviously they do. But desperate for it ? <br />Debatable, in my opinion.<br /><br /><b>This is a thrill for me to know that</b><br /><br />I suspect that even the members of the victims' families wouldn't make that statement.<br /><br /><b>Throw away the key</b><br /><br />Then how would any of them shower ?grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90188225317625717882021-05-19T16:58:29.089-04:002021-05-19T16:58:29.089-04:00I don't care if the Manson family prisoners ar...I don't care if the Manson family prisoners are ever deemed to be a low risk for violence in the community. Don't care. They wouldn't even be breathing air had their sentences not been commuted. I wouldn't want any of them in my community. How can anyone even suggest that by serving long jail sentences they have paid their debt? They have been sentenced. To life. Enforce it. Parole hearings are a waste of time and money. What's a travesty is Tex Watson having fathered 4 children. And Lynette Fromme being paroled after an assassination attempt on the President??! Just think of how these people have thrown away their whole lives. Wasted. Going over the possibilities of what might have been. Year after year they play the murders over & over in their mind. And every day they desperately want freedom. Every. Day. This is a thrill for me to know that. Condemned to agonize daily for as long as they live. Forgiveness? Nope. Compassion? Absolutely not. Throw away the key.whitelacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800163088246211314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18032095777945361202019-02-07T15:37:12.363-05:002019-02-07T15:37:12.363-05:00Thought this was interesting with respect to our o...Thought this was interesting with respect to our ongoing dispute over culpability here. Words matter.<br /><br />https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/calls-and-texts-urging-suicide-can-be-manslaughter-court-rules/<br /><br /><br />"More generally, the court pointed out that it's not that unusual for people to be convicted of murder or manslaughter based solely on their words."Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760641498649508874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-59531177211267780492019-02-07T14:15:19.568-05:002019-02-07T14:15:19.568-05:00Cool pic of Bobby B. In the top hat circa 1967 nev...Cool pic of Bobby B. In the top hat circa 1967 never seen tbis oneAjerseydevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307773867621679673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90936768455914628072019-02-03T23:02:07.401-05:002019-02-03T23:02:07.401-05:00I’m so confused.I’m so confused.Rock N. Rollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670821727767755900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-26386950997904996872019-02-03T20:51:09.845-05:002019-02-03T20:51:09.845-05:00Two words - Cheryl Shuman
MGN3 - Aren't you h...Two words - Cheryl Shuman<br /><br />MGN3 - Aren't you hassling Col Scott/Dan Murphy in kinda the same manner?<br /><br />Not coolDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23396568183644090152019-02-02T03:17:05.769-05:002019-02-02T03:17:05.769-05:00Mr Murphy.
I'm glad you spoke to
Robert Jay M...Mr Murphy.<br />I'm glad you spoke to <br />Robert Jay Marczak. Did Marczak discuss with you the Direct Message correspondences he had with me? Or his telephone conversations he had with me?<br /><br />And you call me a coward?<br />ANYTIME you want to meet me here in Los Angeles Mr Murphy where we both reside, you let me know the time and place, and we'll have a MAN-to-boy<br />(Me being the MAN, you being the boy)<br />LEGAL discussion.<br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />-------<br />The OJ Simpson CaseMario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51250470023827145882019-02-02T02:44:28.505-05:002019-02-02T02:44:28.505-05:00Of course you fear things
You fear knowledge
You ...Of course you fear things<br /><br />You fear knowledge<br />You fear women<br />You fear truth<br />You fear soap<br />You fear utensils<br /><br />You are essentially a clown and a coward and we both know it.<br /><br />Hintgate? Dumbassgate more like it!<br /><br />I spoke to Marczak. I believe the words "deranged loser" were heard in the ether.ColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66859958777144728592019-02-02T01:33:57.388-05:002019-02-02T01:33:57.388-05:00Mr Murphy,
I haven't accused Oliver Stone of a... Mr Murphy,<br />I haven't accused Oliver Stone of anything. Robert Jay Marczak, Rose McGowan's spokesperson "hinted" to me he knew the name (OLIVER STONE) of the "FAMOUS HOLLYWOOD DIECTOR" who had sex with Rose McGowan when McGowan was 15 Years old, and that's statatory rape of a minor here in California. I put 2+2 together and Tweeted to Marczak that I knew the name of the person Marczak was hinting about, thus creating "HINTGATE."<br /><br />Mr Murphy? Are you threatening me when you say:<br /><br />"Mario if you are using your psychotic twitter to accuse Oliver of vile shit be clear so I can have his lawyers take your lame life from you"<br /><br />Well Mr Murphy, I'll take it as one of your potty-mouth drunken tirades.<br /><br />And if you think I'm afraid of You, OLIVER STONE, or ANY of his lawyers, think again Mr Murphy, <br />I FEAR NOTHING......<br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />------<br />The OJ Simpson CaseMario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-83467078808172267322019-02-01T22:19:08.351-05:002019-02-01T22:19:08.351-05:00Mario if you are using your psychotic twitter to a...Mario if you are using your psychotic twitter to accuse Oliver of vile shit be clear so I can have his lawyers take your lame life from you.<br /><br />Cat it is so nice to hear from you- are you attacking me and if so why when I only love you? And no, not from Bobby (no interaction in a decade) or Nancy (the same). Bruce has not told the truth imo. Not about new murders. That is some Tom O'Neill 20 year book journey horseshit. About the ones we know about.<br /><br />I believe Bruce was the "muscle" of the Family.ColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-17656680546148112442019-01-31T19:32:05.696-05:002019-01-31T19:32:05.696-05:00Grim said - "When he said "you have a ce...Grim said - "When he said "you have a certain facility with language that includes some artful ambiguity and I think anyone who reads this transcript carefully will note that, when the answer to the question could be either fish or fowl, you manage to answer often in a way that is neither fish nor fowl, but some combination or in between or either or both."<br /><br />Yes! <br /><br />Bummer Bob's Mystery Meal<br /><br />Always a uniquely different dish with little nutritional value whosoever Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47509694202564309762019-01-31T18:03:37.049-05:002019-01-31T18:03:37.049-05:00Gorodish said...
the commissioner that was grilli... Gorodish said...<br /><br /><b>the commissioner that was grilling him on this, Dianne Dobbs, is a black woman. I bet he was really squirming</b><br /><br />That's priceless ! I didn't take note of who was actually grilling him at that point and I had no idea she was Black. It's almost too funny.<br />For a couple of years I used to comment on Presiding Commissioner Anderson's undisguised bias in Bobby's 2010 hearing. It was very late in the day that I discovered he was Black. When I found out, some things clicked for me. I still think his performance that year was unhealthy though. Not that Bobby helped himself much.<br /><br /> <b>Basically, the board said in so many words, "Bobby, you're a lying sack of shit and nobody here believes your stories. But you've proven you're ready to be paroled, and frankly, you're old and our jails are overcrowded and we need your cell space</b><br /><br />You know, that is more or less exactly what ran through my mind as I was reading the transcript. I can't get over that Bobby was still being duplicitous. But it really did feel like the board were trying hard to get rid of him !grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36015873232438941852019-01-31T17:44:28.042-05:002019-01-31T17:44:28.042-05:00Matthew Record said...
With everything that I... Matthew Record said...<br /><br /> <b>With everything that I can find, it says that Rosmary LaBianca was stabbed 41 times and many were post. However, I can't find anywhere exactly how many were post. Leslie says that she stabbed 15 to 16 times</b><br /><br />In his book, Bugliosi says that <i>"Rosemary LaBianca, Katsuyama also testified, had been stabbed 41 times, 16 of which wounds <b>mostly</b> in her back and buttocks, having been made after she had died.....This was very important testimony, since Leslie Van Houten told Dianne Lake that she had stabbed someone who was already dead."</i> However, this isn't true when it comes to those numbers. In the trial he asks Katsuyama if any of the wounds appear to be after death and Katsuyama says yes. The Kat explains why he's come to this conclusion and he marks the post mortem wounds for everyone to see. Bugliosi specifically notes by asking, if the wounds marked as post mortem by the Kat are on the left and right buttocks and Katsuyama says yes, even though he has, 3 answers earlier, referred to the wounds as being on the "lower part of her back, on her hips." At no point during the testimony does he give an actual number of post mortem wounds.<br />Now, Bugliosi {in the book}, by saying <i>most</i> of the post mortem wounds were on the back and buttocks, implies not all of them were. But no matter; I don't know where he gets his figure of 16 post mortem wounds from because during questioning, he doesn't mention a figure or ask for a figure and Katsuyama doesn't give a figure, he just says he sees a number of them that he's marked.<br />Now, the Kat refers to the post mortem wounds as "the smaller wounds on the lower part of her back, on her hips" and this is consistent with the <a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/35711223/Rosemary-LaBianca-Autopsy-Report" rel="nofollow">autopsy</a> which shows fourteen ¾ ~ 1" wounds marked as "lower back" and specifically noted as "described but not numbered; <i>some</i> post mortem." That "some" is the clincher that shows that Leslie's claim of Mrs LaBianca being dead when she stabbed her can't have any basis in fact <i>if</i>, as she says, she stabbed her 14-16 times. The autopsy is saying that of the 14 wounds in the lower back only <i>some</i> of them were post mortem. That means less than 14. I seem to recall reading that 13 of the wounds were post mortem; I thought it was in "Helter Skelter" but there it says 16 which is wrong according to the autopsy. Either way, it is less than the number Leslie has always given and just as interesting for me is when Katsuyama is asked why he thinks the specific wounds he's talking about were inflicted after death, he begins his sentence "I believe these were inflicted shortly after she died <i>or while she was dying...</i>"<br /><br /><b>However, she went into the house knowing that people would be killed which makes her just as accountable as the others</b><br /><br />My impression of her is just that^^^^^^^^^^<br />I've never really thought she mentions stabbing a dead body as a ruse to say she wasn't as responsible as the others or even responsible at all; alone among the killers, hers was the stated desire to kill and be part of the divine mission. That's why that Marvin Part interview is so powerful. She's not playing mad, she's not playing innocent, she's not playing remorseful, she's not playing brainwashed, she's not playing coerced, she implicates herself, Mary, Susan, Bobby, Tex, Pat and Charlie {and arguably Clem and Linda} in murder so the things she says about getting cold feet when it came to the actual moment of murder, thinking Mrs LaBianca was dead when she stabbed her and crying about the LaBianca kids having to find the bodies as well as noting those that maybe weren't strong in the Family cause, just strike me as factual and are balanced by her saying {at the time} that she'd do it all again and didn't feel sorry for the victims.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47832970962415130232019-01-31T16:28:56.182-05:002019-01-31T16:28:56.182-05:00Grimtraveller wrote:
There was one hilarious bit...Grimtraveller wrote: <br /><br /><b>There was one hilarious bit where he said that he didn't even try to evade capture as he was so shattered by what he'd done. Then one of the board members reminded him that he'd said that he'd bought the car from a Black man !!</b><br /><br />And the commissioner that was grilling him on this, Dianne Dobbs, is a black woman. I bet he was really squirming.<br /><br /><b>It was one of the most devastating examples I've come across of calling someone a liar in a way that doesn't actually say "you're a bloody liar." When he said "you have a certain facility with language that includes some artful ambiguity and I think anyone who reads this transcript carefully will note that, when the answer to the question could be either fish or fowl, you manage to answer often in a way that is neither fish nor fowl, but some combination or in between or either or both. That didn’t escape us."</b><br /><br />I also enjoyed the "fish or fowl" euphemism. Basically, the board said in so many words, "Bobby, you're a lying sack of shit and nobody here believes your stories. But you've proven you're ready to be paroled, and frankly, you're old and our jails are overcrowded and we need your cell space. Your parole is granted."<br /><br /><b>Deputy commissioner Andres may have somewhat "tampered" with the ball, making it easier for the new Guv to flex his managerial muscle.</b><br /><br />I didn't even read the ulterior motive. You may just be right on that one, Grim.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-37638229503184268482019-01-31T09:25:46.089-05:002019-01-31T09:25:46.089-05:00With everything that I can find, it says that Rosm...With everything that I can find, it says that Rosmary LaBianca was stabbed 41 times and many were post. However, I can't find anywhere exactly how many were post. Leslie says that she stabbed 15 to 16 times. If the number is that or more and she started the stabbing after Pat was done than she may have not killed anyone. However, she went into the house knowing that people would be killed which makes her just as accountable as the others. The same reason why Charlie was accountable. Matthew https://www.blogger.com/profile/17147415819068597641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-24295035884906868172019-01-30T19:08:22.310-05:002019-01-30T19:08:22.310-05:00Matthew Record said...
I believe that is beca... Matthew Record said...<br /><br /> <b>I believe that is because in the original trial her only objective was to get Charlie free. The girls needed to take the rap</b><br /><br />That's part of the point. She was trying to free Charlie, she was lying her blaggers off, she implicated herself in the Hinman murder and the LaBianca murder and showed no remorse for it.....yet she was consistent in her belief that Rosemary was either dead or that she thought she was.<br />Although it can be easily shown that Rosemary wasn't dead, the important thing is that all along the line, Leslie has believed she was. grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-5095209904767289642019-01-30T13:42:03.389-05:002019-01-30T13:42:03.389-05:00Grimtraveller said:
} Van Houten believed Mrs LaBi...Grimtraveller said:<br />} Van Houten believed Mrs LaBianca was dead and it's interesting that during the original trial she never used it as a defence of any kind even though it came up.<br /><br />I believe that is because in the original trial her only objective was to get Charlie free. The girls needed to take the rap. Matthew https://www.blogger.com/profile/17147415819068597641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-91998968650251009612019-01-29T18:35:27.232-05:002019-01-29T18:35:27.232-05:00Gorodish said...
The transcript of Beausoleil... Gorodish said...<br /><br /> <b>The transcript of Beausoleil's 1/3/2019 parole hearing is now posted on Cielodrive.com</b><br /><br />I found it quite boring overall. But I'm glad it's there and that I got a chance to read it.<br /><br /><b>Apparently there is no terminal health issue, like the cancer I was suspecting</b><br /><br />Because he's in the medical facility, I thought maybe he had some illness that signaled extra care or the end being near.<br />I must say, the board were extraordinarily lenient. And even with that Bobby was pissing in the wind. There was one hilarious bit where he said that he didn't even try to evade capture as he was so shattered by what he'd done. Then one of the board members reminded him that he'd said that he'd bought the car from a Black man !! Many people could understand him being shattered. He should have left it at that, not adding the bit about almost hoping he'd be caught.<br /><br /><b>The Presiding Commissioner, Dianne Dobbs stated this about his physical condition:<br /> <i>"though Mr. Beausoleil does not possess the same physical strength and reflexes that he did at the time, uh, of committing this offense, he maintains good physical health, strength and mobility and he continues to possess the physical capacity to pistol whip or stab another, uh, man."</i></b><br /><br />I hope I'll have the strength to pistol whip a man if I make it to 71 !<br /><br /><b>Also, it appeared that the Deputy Parole commissioner, James Andres, was not buying into Bobby's fantasyland Straight Satans drug burn story or his distancing himself from Charles Manson, and states his skepticism in a lengthy dissertation (which I heartily agreed with)</b><br /><br />He utterly, totally, comprehensively demolished it. It was one of the most devastating examples I've come across of calling someone a liar in a way that doesn't actually say "you're a bloody liar." When he said <i>"you have a certain facility with language that includes some artful ambiguity and I think anyone who reads this transcript carefully will note that, when the answer to the question could be either fish or fowl, you manage to answer often in a way that is neither fish nor fowl, but some combination or in between or either or both. That didn’t escape us,"</i> I really had to laugh. He gets Bobby !<br /><br /><b>His bizarre child spanking "art" was also touched on but was kinda glossed over</b><br /><br />Don't blink now folks, you'll miss it !<br /><br /><b>Gavin Newsom.....the ball is now in your court</b><br /><br />Deputy commissioner Andres may have somewhat <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_tampering" rel="nofollow">"tampered"</a> with the ball, making it easier for the new Guv to flex his managerial muscle. grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-20776241319297242522019-01-29T05:27:56.092-05:002019-01-29T05:27:56.092-05:00The transcript of Beausoleil's 1/3/2019 parole...The transcript of Beausoleil's 1/3/2019 parole hearing is now posted on Cielodrive.com. <br />Apparently there is no terminal health issue, like the cancer I was suspecting. The Presiding Commissioner, Dianne Dobbs stated this about his physical condition : <br />"Uh, physically he has degenerative arthritis, but he told us today that he controls this through yoga and Tai Chi. He told us that he has a clear mind today. We see that age-related decreases that he has were determined by Dr. Levin to not be a significant mitigating factor for his risk for violence. The doctor noted on page 16 of the Comprehensive Risk Assessment, and I am quoting, the doctor states, though Mr. Beausoleil does not possess the same physical strength and reflexes that he did at the time, uh, of committing this offense, he maintains good physical health, strength and mobility and he continues to possess the physical capacity to pistol whip or stab another, uh, man." <br />Also, it appeared that the Deputy Parole commissioner, James Andres, was not buying into Bobby's fantasyland Straight Satans drug burn story or his distancing himself from Charles Manson, and states his skepticism in a lengthy dissertation (which I heartily agreed with). <br />His bizarre child spanking "art" was also touched on but was kinda glossed over. <br /> So in the end, they arrived at this :<br />"On the issue of remorse, uh, Mr. Beausoleil has accepted full responsibility for his actions in killing Mr. Hinman. We note that he was 21 when he committed this life crime and now when we look at his record, we see that he is no longer -- that he no longer acts based on approval from others. That he has long established a healthy self- image through many of his practices, his religious practices and other practices. We find that this diminishes many of the challenges that he was dealing with at the time when he committed this crime. We also find that he has made realistic plans for release. He has acceptance letters from transitional housing programs. He has a relapse prevention plan and we find that he has strong family support and support from friends in the community. He also has prospects, um, to support himself through job offers and additionally through his own, um, creative skills. We also find that he has a good understanding of many of the challenges that he will likely face in the community."<br /><br />Gavin Newsom.....the ball is now in your court.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14096546368425973012019-01-27T17:37:17.939-05:002019-01-27T17:37:17.939-05:00David said...
she keeps mentioning the fact sh... David said...<br /><br /> <b>she keeps mentioning the fact she stabbed a dead body</b><br /><br />Legally, it was actually Maxwell Keith that started that ball rolling. It was a major part of his strategy in the original trial behind the scenes that she couldn't be guilty of murder because it had already happened before Leslie was given a knife. Given that conspiracy was part of the charge, I don't know what he was trying to achieve. Privately {to Dianne Lake and Marvin Part} Van Houten believed Mrs LaBianca was dead and it's interesting that during the original trial she never used it as a defence of any kind even though it came up.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-58849819625394840652019-01-27T12:49:25.590-05:002019-01-27T12:49:25.590-05:00Hi David, the lawyer. Hope you're doing well m...Hi David, the lawyer. Hope you're doing well my friend.<br /><br />Ok David.<br />I won't drive you ballistic....lol....this time.<br /><br />The Time.....1969<br />The Things....very possible bodies buried at SPAHN RANCH<br />The Guy.... please reference this tweet of mine on Twitter<br />https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1084983004961755136<br />The Place.... SPAHN RANCH<br /><br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />------<br />The OJ Simpson CaseMario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51041560897568008122019-01-27T12:12:09.092-05:002019-01-27T12:12:09.092-05:00MGN111,
Look, we go way back and I owe you from ...MGN111, <br /><br />Look, we go way back and I owe you from that TIME with the THING with the GUY in the "PLACE" --- but I have no idea what you might be referring to. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-71837642398061226122019-01-26T13:08:59.976-05:002019-01-26T13:08:59.976-05:00ColScott/Mr Murphy,
I respect your knowledge of
T...ColScott/Mr Murphy,<br />I respect your knowledge of <br />The Charles Manson Case very much. And ever since you rightly pointed out to me that Kato Kaelin DID NOT plead the 5th amendment in the OJ Grand Jury hearing, I read everything that you say.<br /><br />Perhaps you didn't see a comment I directed at you, so I will just post it again here without the photo reference....lol:<br /><br />"ColScott (aka Don Murphy)<br /><br />I didn't realize it, Mr Murphy, but you worked with Oliver Stone in the past.<br />Amazingly enough, with Quentin Tarantino's Charles Manson Family Movie,<br />"Once Upon a time in Hollywood"<br />coming out this year, <br />the "INTERTWINING" is <br />"AMAZING"....to say the least...I KNOW.<br /><br />Anyway Mr Murphy, any reply to me on this Tweet I made on Twitter regarding<br />OLIVER STONE?<br /><br />https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1065162635253956608 "<br /><br />David, the lawyer:<br />In my opinion, there is only one way that any Charles Manson Follower, that is in prison, can get paroled. That person must work with law enforcement and show where certain "THINGS" are at SPAHN RANCH, and WHO(s) was/were involved. But that's a HUGE problem...<br />I do believe David you know what imI talking about.<br /><br />Mario George Nitrini 111<br />-------<br />The OJ Simpson CaseMario George Nitrini 111https://www.blogger.com/profile/07725381781681275624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65440517510051547992019-01-26T08:20:30.185-05:002019-01-26T08:20:30.185-05:00Kathleen- amen! While I can completely understand ...Kathleen- amen! While I can completely understand why a family member (real family not Manson Family) would advocate for the release of an inmate, I don’t understand why anyone else would advocate for the release of a murderer- it’s like taking the side of the villain versus the innocent. <br /><br />Mrs. LaBianca spent her final moments listening to her husband get stabbed to death while he was defenseless, hands tied and possibly hooded- by a coward. Then the knives were turned on her and poor poor poor LVH got to mutilate her body and stab it after she was dead- then, they got cleaned up and had some chocolate milk and watermelon and went about their merry way and a few hours later, the LaBianca children got to discover their parents bodies- <br /><br />In my opinion, some people have got their priorities screwed up. <br /><br />I can appreciate the greater legal debate too. Why if murderer X is released in 18 years isn’t murderer Y released after 50 years? etc. In this case, the family wanted to ‘shock the world’ and that they did. You can’t have it both ways- you can’t ‘shock the world’ then ask to be treated like every other case. <br /><br />We could argue that an NFL player who decides to kick his girlfriend after dragging her off an elevator by the hair should be treated just like another domestic violator- but that’s not an apples to apples comparison either. The NFL player is a role model to children, he represents the NFL, and is endorsed (in most cases) by many companies. The NFL player loses his job, his endorsements, and is suspended by the NFL while typical domestic violator doesn’t face any additional penalties outside of legal prosecution. AstroCreephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14400828131305289484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-78275780939026971772019-01-25T15:28:52.761-05:002019-01-25T15:28:52.761-05:00Spelling as idiosyncratic as it was then. Gan aft ...Spelling as idiosyncratic as it was then. Gan aft aglae I meant. XMilly Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03612495681178122993noreply@blogger.com