tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post7226241219882014890..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: Debra Tate - Live on in your illusionMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70017724442257872712014-02-11T08:38:40.359-05:002014-02-11T08:38:40.359-05:00Thanks for being a sport, bobby. It was a joke, bu...Thanks for being a sport, bobby. It was a joke, but I'll try harder, I promise :)Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042563411146539890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-495320811541014822014-02-10T19:24:28.504-05:002014-02-10T19:24:28.504-05:00bobby said...
Ranting nocturnal drunks can only po...bobby said...<br />Ranting nocturnal drunks can only post on one blog ? oh man that sucks.<br /><br />-----<br /><br />Well bobby, it tends to keep the puke in one place. LOL.Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042563411146539890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69442105034120449522014-02-10T12:00:54.221-05:002014-02-10T12:00:54.221-05:00"For the record, Deb was a very beautiful gir..."For the record, Deb was a very beautiful girl. So was Dede. So was Samantha Geimer. So was Patty. Not so much any more, but that's life."<br /><br />Here's the proof, Patty looks like Scarlett or Amber or somebody, no? She was 17. Today Patty has lumps, bumps, wrinkles and scars. The people who love her though, still see her this way. Patty hopes that Deb Tate still has people in her life that think she is beautiful.Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-91436331883997813162014-02-10T11:04:49.231-05:002014-02-10T11:04:49.231-05:00Leslie, I am old enough to have been a Sharon Tate...Leslie, I am old enough to have been a Sharon Tate fan before she was murdered. I read every newspaper and magazine article I could find after the murders. I remember reading many times that Sharon and Debra were close despite their age difference. Maybe they weren't. I only know what I have read. And this was years and years before Debra was ever interviewed. Even if they weren't close, Sharon loved Debra and Patti and I think she would be hurt by all the criticism being thrown Debra's way. JMO.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65039870378525322482014-02-10T08:53:58.623-05:002014-02-10T08:53:58.623-05:00Carol, how is it that you know for a fact that Sha...Carol, how is it that you know for a fact that Sharon was close to Debra Tate? Simply because Debra Tate says so?<br /><br />I have to look at their lives and wonder (and please don't mistake the word "close" with "love", because I think we can all agree that Sharon loved her sisters. But close with either of them?<br /><br />In 1962 Debra Tate was about 10 years old to Sharon's 16-17 years. That same year, Sharon takes off from their home in Italy for the states, then returns to Italy for a period of time until the family moved back home.<br /><br />In 1963, Debra Tate is 11 years old to Sharon's 18-19 years with the family spending half their time in LA half in San Francisco while Sharon gets an apartment on Clark street.<br /><br />Between 1963 and 1969, the family was mostly in San Francisco while Sharon was in LA and then, for the most part, from 1965-1969 Sharon spent at least half her of time in Europe<br /><br />In my mind, that doesn't leave a lot of "close" time between the 10-year-spread on the sisters.<br /><br />Again, if Debra Tate simply claimed that her sister Sharon loved her very much as only an older sister of 10 years would, I'd have nothing to say. Instead, she has to make up stories about how they were best buddies. And, for me, it's the self-serving lies (one after another after another) that make me grit my teeth when I see or hear her. Comments like how she was the "Lady of the House" at Cielo while Sharon was away, or how she met with Manson in lock up during the trial and grind, grind go my teeth.<br /><br />At least Patricia Tate had the good grace to say something like " I loved my sister very much but she was gone a lot of time and I wish I had all those lost years back". No lies to make up; just the truth of the matter that Sharon was some 15 years older than her, traveling a lot, therefore she missed some crucial bonding time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10247316646905172269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-47672498467306466702014-02-09T18:43:18.048-05:002014-02-09T18:43:18.048-05:00Sharon was very close to her sister Debra. I just...Sharon was very close to her sister Debra. I just wonder how Sharon would feel knowing that so many people tear Debra apart whenever they get the chance, especially over how she looks now. (And I'm not referring to just this site.) And I agree, Fiona - Debra was once a stunning beauty in her younger years. CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65244994367093400212014-02-09T16:48:01.400-05:002014-02-09T16:48:01.400-05:00Matt, the photo we were discussing......please pos...Matt, the photo we were discussing......please post......posthaste! hahah...AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-70622328183843977452014-02-09T14:48:10.773-05:002014-02-09T14:48:10.773-05:00How come all you guys sit on your helmets?
So we ...How come all you guys sit on your helmets?<br /><br />So we don't get our balls blown off.<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-75987736673066955972014-02-09T14:35:45.512-05:002014-02-09T14:35:45.512-05:00I love the smell of napalm in the morning ;-)I love the smell of napalm in the morning ;-)Sun Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10515301825618609488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23668572312308629522014-02-09T13:17:02.230-05:002014-02-09T13:17:02.230-05:00Yes, for the last time that WASN'T Abigail Fol...Yes, for the last time that <b>WASN'T</b> Abigail Folger's outline. It was just a random body chalk line that Michael drew on the floor of the storage garage he uses as his museum.<br /><br />Anyone who thinks that is AF's outline is either so ignorant of the crime scene that they can't tell the difference or they too <b>STUPID</b> to know!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-61919849168341861742014-02-09T13:04:47.501-05:002014-02-09T13:04:47.501-05:00Pernicious! Patty had to look that one up.Pernicious! Patty had to look that one up.Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-77200475348055344752014-02-09T13:02:11.342-05:002014-02-09T13:02:11.342-05:00As for Debra Tate's defense of Roman Polanski,...As for Debra Tate's defense of Roman Polanski, I for one would have been fine with her lying, oops, I mean testifying, at Polanski's Vanity Fair trial, to say what a wonderful husband he was to Sharon based on him being her ex-brother-in-law, which, for the record, is a confirmed lie from a majority of Sharon's friends and even her own mother in interviews. But, she couldn't stop there she had to go on TV as a media whore defending his violent attack on a child with : "There's rape and then there's rape. It was determined that Roman did not forcibly have sex with this young woman. It was a consensual matter. I am a victims' advocate and I know the difference." Wtf? Doris Tate, a board member of Believe the Children, just vommed in her mouth a little up in heaven. There are a number of lies in just her one sentence there, but I defy you to come up with a court document that shows "it was determined" he was innocent of the charges.<br /><br />And, as long as we're on the subject of Debra Tate being a victims' advocate, I will ask you, a true fan of hers, what exactly has she done to qualify her as such? I will again ask the questions from a previous post and humbly acknowledge my ignorance on this blog if you can prove that she's done any of the following:<br /><br />Has Debra ever attended the victims' rights march at the capital like Patricia and Doris did? <br />Has she ever testified at congress? And if so, can you please site the instance.<br />Has she ever worked for an advocacy group? I know she associated herself with the now defunct Doris Tate Crime Victims' Bureau, but was she ever a board member, speaker, or fundraiser for them? <br />Has she ever "counseled" a victim beyond the Manson Family case? And, if so, please name advocacy group.<br /><br />Vera, I'm literally begging you to prove me wrong so that we can put this all to rest and collectively celebrate Debra Tate, victims' advocate extraordinaire. But, I fear you will find it as difficult to prove as you will proving that Debra Tate had a "career" as a Hollywood makeup artist because, one film credit does not qualify as a career. That's like saying your a full head of hair when you're really only a single strand. It covers your ass for any court related matters, but it doesn't make it true.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681850073223974788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31708771278625246742014-02-09T13:01:53.882-05:002014-02-09T13:01:53.882-05:00Dearest Robin Olson, oops, I mean Vera, I'm no...Dearest Robin Olson, oops, I mean Vera, I'm not sure whether to love the fact that you fantasize about me with "seductively coiffed tresses" or to find it creepy.<br /><br />Last night as you sat alone at your computer, plying your mind with liquor, and spending valuable brain cells (and from your ALL CAPS notations, SCREAMING these thoughts in your mind) as you proudly figured out your next genius post here - while apparently solo-sexing your way through the Cindy/Matt/Col three-way-- I took that same time to go out to dinner with friends, have some incredible food, wine, and worth-while, meaningful conversations. After dinner, in my over-served state, I piled into an Uber car with friends to travel to my house where we all sat around the fire drinking more wine, watching the snow, and laughing until just before the sun rose. <br /><br />In all those hours, not once did a thought pass through my mind about you, this blog, or Debra Tate. Not once did it occur to me to get on the computer, with my panties in a bunch, to check the blog to see if anyone responded to my previous, half-witted comment.<br /><br />As I sit here this afternoon paying dearly for that extremely fun night, I feel very sorry for you that you pathetically spent one of your precious weekend nights away from work drinking alone and writing your blog post obsessively defending Debra Tate.<br /><br />While I'm sure we all feel sympathy for Debra Tate surviving the murder of her sister, it does not give her a free pass to be a pathological liar, who among numerous other lies, now emulates her mother and Patricia's hard work in victims' rights as her own on her website and therefore, re-writing history to glorify herself in the same breath as she jumps on her mother and sister's coat-tails.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681850073223974788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67315096914509416802014-02-09T13:00:28.137-05:002014-02-09T13:00:28.137-05:00For the billionth timE, its not Abigail on the flo...For the billionth timE, its not Abigail on the floor, Vera. Goddamn you are a one track record. FUCK OFF now. Please.Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44431955906245002612014-02-09T12:55:31.021-05:002014-02-09T12:55:31.021-05:00Yeah, Vera ain't no lapdog Patty, unlike you&#...Yeah, Vera ain't no lapdog Patty, unlike you're sweet, pernicious self. The one who -- correct me if I'm wrong, maybe it was Liz -- made that fun photo of herself as Abigail Folger's corpse.<br />Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76083534100606033372014-02-09T12:45:14.169-05:002014-02-09T12:45:14.169-05:00Hey Vera! Whassup? Got any new recipes? Beauty tri...Hey Vera! Whassup? Got any new recipes? Beauty tricks? Movie recommendations? No, you just want to bitch? Well, god fucking bless you too, Vera. You never change. Hey Vera! Fuck you!Patty is Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717777500117142160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-62909267553932738842014-02-09T08:38:14.366-05:002014-02-09T08:38:14.366-05:00Isn't there already a blog for nocturnal ranti...Isn't there already a blog for nocturnal ranting drunks?Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042563411146539890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-4791255283510627242014-02-09T08:04:06.133-05:002014-02-09T08:04:06.133-05:00Vera, congratulations. You just made me laugh hard...Vera, congratulations. You just made me laugh harder than I have in weeks. Honestly. I think I like you much better with a buzz on. LOL. For a minute I thought you were going to call me a mugwort. I'll never delete you after cocktails, I promise!<br /><br />But if I understand you correctly, since DT & RP were once in-laws, Debra can defend Roman for raping a 13 year old girl but still call herself a victims advocate (which she isn't)?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-35481416537271938652014-02-09T00:25:37.217-05:002014-02-09T00:25:37.217-05:00"Vera, pull your head out of Debra's ass...."Vera, pull your head out of Debra's ass..."<br /><br />That's so rich coming from you, Cindy Lee, since your seductively coiffed tresses are so far up Matt's ass they've busted out of his mouth and are tangled up in the Col's stinky sphincter. <br />How's that for fuckin' bullying? And yeah, Vera's had a couple a cocktails.<br />And Matt, while I've always thought Debra's defense of her BROTHER-IN-LAW -- yes, her sister's husband and the father of her unborn nephew -- biased her and was a case of bad judgment I think it hardly deserves the kind of vitriol you and your lynch mob of nasty harridans and cuckolded "men" direct towards her, a woman whose trauma you'll NEVER, EVER have even a remote understanding of. I'd like to see how you, Cindy Lee and the rest of your Debra-hating friends would've fared if you suffered the same unspeakable tragedy -- that you so enjoy exploiting on these pages -- she did. <br />Disgusting.<br />And no, I'm not that woman you always say I am, as if, if I were, that would make my sentiments any less relevant. And if she thinks that way, god fucking bless her. Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69879421924430607732014-02-08T20:12:30.963-05:002014-02-08T20:12:30.963-05:00But really why does anyone NEED to know why her fa...But really why does anyone NEED to know why her father disinherited her?<br /> Seems to me that thats the Tate families personal business and has nothing to do with the murders or the reasons behind them.<br /> It just feels to me like she gets beat up on for no real reason at all on these blogs.<br /> <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13702047000467740558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-41148158367062887932014-02-08T20:04:55.987-05:002014-02-08T20:04:55.987-05:00 Matt said... Perhaps you could accuse me of Debog... Matt said... Perhaps you could accuse me of Debogyny.<br /> Now thats pretty funny!<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13702047000467740558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-18448845860957861312014-02-08T15:59:09.209-05:002014-02-08T15:59:09.209-05:00Vera, pull your head out of Debra's ass and ge...Vera, pull your head out of Debra's ass and get a little enlightenment because Matt was not the author of the blog piece, therefore can not be considered the horrifying bullier. He simply re-posted someone else's opinion for discussion and opinion, which is what people gave here. And, at no time did Matt attack anyone here for their positive thoughts on Debra, no more than anyone should attack Matt for his personal opinion. Matt can't be blamed for another person's words. And, let's remember, that Debra Tate herself is a bullier in her own right on her very own site - what comes around, goes around, reap what you sow, karma, or whatever you want to call it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681850073223974788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-48032925534504306882014-02-08T15:57:46.930-05:002014-02-08T15:57:46.930-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681850073223974788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36723321608039201782014-02-08T14:35:51.063-05:002014-02-08T14:35:51.063-05:00Misogyny, Vera? Misogyny is hatred of women. Perha...Misogyny, Vera? Misogyny is hatred of women. Perhaps you could accuse me of Debogyny, but that would be inaccurate too. I don't hate Debra Tate. I don't even dislike her. I merely understand why she was disowned and disinherited by her father.<br /><br />What I don't understand is how she can call herself a victims advocate but give Roman Polanski a pass on raping a young teen. Maybe you can explain that.<br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-68650304045135064782014-02-08T14:14:52.576-05:002014-02-08T14:14:52.576-05:00Fiona, Beauders and especially Matt Prokes: thank ...Fiona, Beauders and especially Matt Prokes: thank god someone stood up to Matt's horrifying bullying. The silence and/or complicity of the others on this site in his misogyny and malice reminds me of the Germans who one looked the other way. It may be an extreme analogy but it is no less apt. Vera Dreiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434785258950871234noreply@blogger.com