tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post7358552653673952089..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: A Little Something for HalloweenMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-40655430340976952022020-11-08T19:42:17.454-05:002020-11-08T19:42:17.454-05:00Posted by LOVE'S lead guitarist Johnny Echols ...Posted by LOVE'S lead guitarist Johnny Echols on his Facebook page yesterday...seems as though he's coming around a bit with his feelings about Bobby...<br /><br />http://www.bobbybeausoleil.com/phone/psychedelic-baby.html?fbclid=IwAR0LKy4-ivFBxmgCNuccQHtc2dcZFSKeaxG1JJ2EGvYYO9gt46Cw79QO0tg<br /><br />Interesting read... Bobby Chats briefly about the short period of time he played with us when we were the Grass Roots. My feelings on this subject have evolved over time. I know that he murdered another human being, but I think that after fifty years in prison, it's time to bring Bobby home. If his name wasn't associated with that ASSHOLE Charles Manson, he would have been released years ago.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-10270626610284702502020-11-04T01:42:37.517-05:002020-11-04T01:42:37.517-05:00Tracy, you're right! Simone Roussel is Michel...Tracy, you're right! Simone Roussel is Michele Morgan's given name. I found a bunch of records at Ancestry, mostly to do with her naturalization. She applied for naturalization in 1943 after she married Gerard William Marshall. She was granted citizenship under the name Simone Roussel Marshall, with Michele Morgan in parenthesis, in 1944. At the time she applied for naturalization her residential address was 628 N. Crescent Dr. Beverly Hills.<br /><br />Then in 1953 she gave up her US citizenship and went back to being a French citizen.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-5964743889511782562020-11-04T00:45:33.204-05:002020-11-04T00:45:33.204-05:00Hi Deb S: great footwork! I believe Simone Roussel...Hi Deb S: great footwork! I believe Simone Roussel and Michele Morgan are one and the same person.<br />TracyMackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318290616533979133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-6384672385990781572020-11-04T00:36:03.432-05:002020-11-04T00:36:03.432-05:00The whole story sounds like bullshit to me, but an...The whole story sounds like bullshit to me, but any story that includes any sort of supernatural events always does.StarRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04221289726371015291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-19480300589722054322020-11-04T00:20:00.401-05:002020-11-04T00:20:00.401-05:00It's difficult to imagine Murphy Brown being a...It's difficult to imagine Murphy Brown being afraid of anything.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36108134808535577912020-11-03T21:25:02.267-05:002020-11-03T21:25:02.267-05:00Oops, the above marriage license was applied for o...Oops, the above marriage license was applied for on Sept. 2 1942.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-37506630310164698942020-11-03T21:23:24.323-05:002020-11-03T21:23:24.323-05:00I did a little deeper search for people who died o...I did a little deeper search for people who died on Cielo Drive between 1940 and 1968. I did not search for 10050 specifically, simply Cielo Drive. The only death I could find was that of Gertrude Freund, wife of cinematographer Karl Freund, who died in a fire at their home at 10046 Cielo Drive Jan. 14 1967. Karl died a couple of years later, May 3 1969.<br /><br />Nearly all of the mentions of Cielo Drive in the newspapers were in the real estate section of the want ads or announcements that a particular property was being built or sold. There was one exception, that of a marriage license being applied for by Gerard Marshall, 25, and Simone Roussel, 22. Roussel gave her address as 10050 Cielo Drive. The name sounds French and I imagine that she worked for Michele Morgan in some capacity. <br /><br />So, either Altobelli or Lindsay were embellishing...<br /><br />Candice Bergen says nothing about being afraid at the Cielo Drive home in this excerpt.<br /><br />https://rxstr.com/candice-bergen-cielo-drive/DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-50367321183429202152020-11-03T19:45:33.927-05:002020-11-03T19:45:33.927-05:00It’s notable that most if not all of these stories...It’s notable that most if not all of these stories came out after the murders rather than before. Although I guess that had the murders not occurred there then such stories wouldn’t have much relevance. The experiences of the original French actress owner are interesting if they’re to be believed. I think it was her housekeeper or butler whatever who published the story? But again it came out after the murders? The one weird event that definitely did happen pre-murders was Fryjowski claiming to see the pigs head in the burning fireplace at Cielo. That is weird for all sorts of reasons. I also find it a bit strange how Altobelli almost over-emphasised how safe and peaceful he found living on the property post murders. I guess he would be anxious not to undermine the real estate value of the place!Speculatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489618949347706102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-57392224315878314762020-11-03T19:38:27.154-05:002020-11-03T19:38:27.154-05:00RRSpeculatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489618949347706102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85462741489905473682020-11-03T14:50:08.988-05:002020-11-03T14:50:08.988-05:00There have been too many comedy segments where som...There have been too many comedy segments where someone was fed a line about something outrageous that was hushed up for the murder/suicide to be believed without additional evidence.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13111046544941643902020-11-03T13:32:24.847-05:002020-11-03T13:32:24.847-05:00I would have to be shown evidence of the murder su...I would have to be shown evidence of the murder suicide to believe it if it happened there's got to a record of it somewhere also I've always heard Terry & Candice moved out of Cielo together After the slaughter I wouldn't doubt the place being haunted I remember when They were doing the Dearly departed Helter Skelter tour at one time they gave you a brick from the Fire place at Cielo when it was torn down I for one know I wouldn't want one in my houseAjerseydevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02307773867621679673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-80760516956019496952020-11-03T13:13:11.591-05:002020-11-03T13:13:11.591-05:00I find it odd that the original owner & builde...I find it odd that the original owner & builder of 10050 Cielo was scared of the house as well. What was it about that house that creeped people out? From photos, it looked rather comfortable & very unpretentious, but perhaps at night, it gave off a different vibe. My grandparents' house was like that. It had a very large, one story layout with a lot of hallways & rooms (not an open floor plan) with tons of windows. It was cozy and nice during the day, but when we kids would stay the night, it turned extremely scary with weird noises & shadows around every corner. AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-32571150701262734092020-11-03T05:31:07.837-05:002020-11-03T05:31:07.837-05:00Gorodish said...
Mark Lindsay says he lived a... Gorodish said...<br /><br /> <b>Mark Lindsay says he lived at Cielo for 2 years, 1966/67. If this was the case, then there's no way Manson was in that house when Lindsay was there. Manson didn't visit there till the late summer of 1968</b><br /><br />These has-been z list minor celebs !grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-87251934059547322932020-11-03T05:28:26.105-05:002020-11-03T05:28:26.105-05:00Agree with those who assess it's an interestin...Agree with those who assess it's an interesting story but weaved with dubious materials, observations and outright falsehoods (... knives from the kitchen ... ?) . So much we'll never know even though likely most of us at one time or another felt the heebie-jeebies about a dwelling or place, an intuitive we can't explain as anything other than being very self-protective.<br /><br />No great insights from here on this case other than to say Manson squatting immovable in front of the fridge .. I don't know about Mark but most average guys would have gotten pissed and physically moved him out of the way. Robert Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931071604173368606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36149977974522335722020-11-03T04:25:31.168-05:002020-11-03T04:25:31.168-05:00Mark Lindsay says he lived at Cielo for 2 years, 1...Mark Lindsay says he lived at Cielo for 2 years, 1966/67. If this was the case, then there's no way Manson was in that house when Lindsay was there. Manson didn't visit there till the late summer of 1968. Conceivably, Lindsay could have lived there into 1968 and was still hanging around the place even after he moved out.<br /><br />Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39073856060327437662020-11-03T04:23:39.055-05:002020-11-03T04:23:39.055-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gorodishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554015159612108936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-61722124065326231392020-11-02T00:18:52.716-05:002020-11-02T00:18:52.716-05:00Wasn't that scene related by Mike Love? Or, A...Wasn't that scene related by Mike Love? Or, Alex Chilton? Alex DID forget the milk on his grocery run...😆Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-34019803444969006072020-11-01T23:50:09.402-05:002020-11-01T23:50:09.402-05:00Did anyone else see the old Candice Bergen intervi...Did anyone else see the old Candice Bergen interview where she demonstrated the French accent she developed during her jet setting days? I think it was on The Tonight Show or Letterman.<br />orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689926449812436866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-65669095915613124672020-11-01T23:47:05.406-05:002020-11-01T23:47:05.406-05:00"And did that same spirit inspire Susan Atkin..."<i>And did that same spirit inspire Susan Atkins or Tex Watson to take a large knife from the kitchen and brutally stab Sharon Tate?</i> "<br /><br />Mark Lindsay's full of shit.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10364368677973694451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39129497300723381312020-11-01T11:26:34.524-05:002020-11-01T11:26:34.524-05:00Didn't someone write that Manson or Watson was...Didn't someone write that Manson or Watson was sitting in front of the fridge at Cielo and blocking Candice Bergen from getting in it?beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14788168695300580072020-11-01T09:09:06.235-05:002020-11-01T09:09:06.235-05:00The odd moment of Charlie 'blocking the fridg... The odd moment of Charlie 'blocking the fridge' seems like it could have inspired a Tarantino scene. CM was probably wildly envious and seething, knowing that this successful musician was tight with Melcher.Gene Aquamarinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05394680866794841537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66567256578992014492020-11-01T08:55:24.010-05:002020-11-01T08:55:24.010-05:00When the author believes Susan or Tex took a large...When the author believes Susan or Tex took a large knife from the kitchen...<br /><br />All I can say is... a couple of interesting pics.Tragical History Tourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419266493227241434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-35809203346121068582020-11-01T06:46:32.656-05:002020-11-01T06:46:32.656-05:00No smoke without ciggy!No smoke without ciggy!Speculatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489618949347706102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-33343309264119348612020-11-01T06:19:24.507-05:002020-11-01T06:19:24.507-05:00Speculator said...
But they do say no smoke wi... Speculator said...<br /><br /> <b>But they do say no smoke without fire</b><br /><br />'They' did say that......until they saw me light a ciggy from an electric cooker ring.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-62328249342592648362020-11-01T05:44:09.849-05:002020-11-01T05:44:09.849-05:00Maybe Altobelli or Lindsay (or both) were embellis...Maybe Altobelli or Lindsay (or both) were embellishing the truth a little for their audiences. But they do say no smoke without fire. And isn’t there a story about the French actress who originally had the place built funding it scary at night and eventually moving out?Speculatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489618949347706102noreply@blogger.com