tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post8215229008299729249..comments2024-03-27T21:24:06.590-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: The Family ManMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-716046063242631802017-12-05T18:53:47.997-05:002017-12-05T18:53:47.997-05:00I've subscribed to Simone's blog and will ...I've subscribed to Simone's blog and will give a head's up when the book is out. I see amazon are listing a Creepy Crawling and Manson Girls books due out for next year as well<br />Chris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-23634703406557636032017-12-04T21:19:35.492-05:002017-12-04T21:19:35.492-05:00Thanks David Thanks David beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-14206438046136254312017-12-04T19:24:18.595-05:002017-12-04T19:24:18.595-05:00beauders,
Not that I have seen. That link says h...beauders, <br /><br />Not that I have seen. That link says he was searching for a publisher in 2015. His Facebook page says it is 'upcoming' and his Wikipedia page says it is due out in 2018. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-12521739663266740182017-12-04T18:49:20.911-05:002017-12-04T18:49:20.911-05:00Is there another new book out, “The Retrial of Cha...Is there another new book out, “The Retrial of Charles Manson”beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-76065219349859450882017-12-04T18:28:26.772-05:002017-12-04T18:28:26.772-05:00I would like to read a memoir by Stephen Kay about...I would like to read a memoir by Stephen Kay about now. I wonder if he was waiting for Manson to die like other authors.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-43066428643276558162017-12-04T14:27:08.321-05:002017-12-04T14:27:08.321-05:00Hey David,
This is gnarly!!!!
"Simone is al...Hey David,<br /><br />This is gnarly!!!!<br /><br />"Simone is also the source of the claim that Afton Elaine Burton (Manson's one time fiancee) was marrying him to get his body to display it for a fee after his death."<br /><br />What a morbid freak-show that would be!Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416375659975396332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51369187775139273332017-12-04T11:10:18.973-05:002017-12-04T11:10:18.973-05:00Joe Col,
I'm not a staunch supporter of the ...Joe Col, <br /><br />I'm not a staunch supporter of the HS motive and certainly not a fan of Kasabian (or her capacity for telling the whole truth). That said, the 'kite' story has been around for quite a while. Fleischmann brought it up in a 2009 (I think) interview. <br /><br />I'd be very careful about his comments about the immunity deal saying Kasabian would receive immunity if she told the truth (it did) and then said "and the truth is....". I find that very hard to believe as that would have been a powerful weapon for the defense and I have no recollection of it coming up at the trial. While I could imagine the defense counsel being too incompetent to catch it I can't imagine VB being so stupid as to put that in writing. Until I see it IMO the accuracy of that comment is extremely doubtful. <br /><br />The show was based upon the book: "The Retrial of Charles Manson" by Daniel Simone (who needs a larger size shirt) and Heidi Ley. <br /><br />Simone is also the source of the claim that Afton Elaine Burton (Manson's one time fiancee) was marrying him to get his body to display it for a fee after his death: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/10/charles-manson-fiancee-dead-body_n_6656046.html<br /><br />The show had a rather transparent agenda, which was disappointing to me. The editing reflected that agenda, several times cutting off the person being interviewed, including the unflattering image used of Bugliosi and rather transparently mispronouncing his name by using the "G". Even George (Stimson) was rather abruptly cut off at one point when he was making a good point.<br /><br />I did find Manson's comment that he was the most famous person in the world, and not even dead yet to be very revealing. But even his comments appeared to be cherry picked and edited and several didn't seem to support what the narrative said they would support.<br /><br />It was nice to see that BB has gone back to the Straight Satan drug burn theory in connection on Hinman. The board might be interested in that next time around. <br /><br /><br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-89590744948735721352017-12-04T09:09:29.792-05:002017-12-04T09:09:29.792-05:00Gary Fleischman was especially revelatory in the R...Gary Fleischman was especially revelatory in the Reelz program. How he got kasabian her immunity deal using "kites" and her revelations to him seemed quite incredible.<br />Will seek out the History channel program, didn't know there were two running last night.Joe Colhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16386398473343249599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13217994139765478212017-12-03T19:03:14.074-05:002017-12-03T19:03:14.074-05:00Cielo and Debra Tate reporting Babs gone....maybe ...Cielo and Debra Tate reporting Babs gone....maybe Shorty will put her straight on what happened....Chuck too.Cooltidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15968688820752218785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-52846706510245134922017-12-03T18:58:48.837-05:002017-12-03T18:58:48.837-05:00Dropping like flies.....RIP Barbara "Hamburge...Dropping like flies.....RIP Barbara "Hamburger" HoltCooltidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15968688820752218785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-63938079529891390042017-12-03T15:15:59.558-05:002017-12-03T15:15:59.558-05:00Wow, the "Final Words" could be revelato...Wow, the "Final Words" could be revelatory.Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416375659975396332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-66832997514175195632017-12-03T14:06:31.867-05:002017-12-03T14:06:31.867-05:00The link worked.
Here's what it says;
CHARL...The link worked. <br />Here's what it says; <br /><br />CHARLES MANSON: THE FINAL WORDS<br /><br />PREMIERESTONIGHT9 ET/8 PT<br /><br />About Charles Manson: The Final Words<br /><br />Narrated by musician and director Rob Zombie, the documentary focuses on the Manson family murders told from Manson’s perspective using never-before-seen case files, pictures and exclusive interviews with Manson himself from inside California State Prison.<br /><br />Charles Manson: The Final Words includes Manson’s eerie and disturbing conversations about modern society, justice, his decades behind bars, the Bernard Crowe shooting and the murders along with digitally restored audio recordings from the original investigations to reconstruct a path of events that led to the brutal slayings of movie star Sharon Tate and four of her friends on August 8, 1969 in addition to the murders of Gary Hinman and Donald “Shorty” Shea.<br /><br />The documentary also includes compelling new interviews with members of the Manson family which reveal never-before-heard details that help uncover the real story and motives behind the grisly murder spree. Viewers will hear from accused Manson family members Bobby Beausoleil, Barbara Hoyt and Catherine “Cappi” Gillies along with prosecutor Stephen Kay, defense attorney Gary Fleischman, music producer Phil Kaufman as well as other investigators and authors.<br /><br />Hippiedollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02334488948341329176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-9277115385117941872017-12-03T14:01:30.563-05:002017-12-03T14:01:30.563-05:00Thanks Chris and Deb!
I've got another piece ...Thanks Chris and Deb!<br /><br />I've got another piece coming that looks at the HS fantasy and Vince.Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416375659975396332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-26865293639611607282017-12-03T14:00:36.187-05:002017-12-03T14:00:36.187-05:00Let's see if i got this link right?
https://...Let's see if i got this link right? <br /><br />https://www.reelz.com/charles-manson-final-words/Hippiedollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02334488948341329176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-39229083194338324482017-12-03T13:56:50.474-05:002017-12-03T13:56:50.474-05:00Just a heads-up, there's also another program ...Just a heads-up, there's also another program coming on tonight called MANSON'S FINAL WORDS or something like that in REELZ TV.<br /><br />I will see if I can find a link to post. Hippiedollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02334488948341329176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-77733403929352313682017-12-03T13:55:35.261-05:002017-12-03T13:55:35.261-05:00I don know about that Christopher. From the link-...I don know about that Christopher. From the link-<br /><br />"The two-part special also presents a new theory on Manson’s motives that does not align with the “Helter Skelter” theory he was prosecuted under;"<br /><br />DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-4598769813459029272017-12-03T13:45:56.348-05:002017-12-03T13:45:56.348-05:00Terry, I'm certain it will. Everyone may have ...Terry, I'm certain it will. Everyone may have believed it and heard Manson preach it but it doesn't necessarily follow that it was the motive. Chris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-12545380702850652172017-12-03T12:37:47.348-05:002017-12-03T12:37:47.348-05:00I wonder how much the History Channel mini series ...I wonder how much the History Channel mini series will follow the Helter Skelter narrative...Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416375659975396332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51916929261643951422017-12-03T10:33:42.260-05:002017-12-03T10:33:42.260-05:00Tonight, Sun. Dec.3rd, there will be a new Manson ...Tonight, Sun. Dec.3rd, there will be a new Manson show on History Channel. It's a mini series to be shown in two 2 hour episodes titled "Manson Speaks: Inside the Mind of a Madman".<br /><br />This shows tries to tie the Nov. 1969 murder of Jane Doe 59, eventually identified as Reet Jurvetson of Canada, to members of the Family. Also, Marlin Marynick shares his recordings of conversations with Charlie made prior to writing his book "Charles Manson Now".<br /><br />David, of note is a recording at the bottom of the page (link below) where Manson, himself, mentions bodies on a beach!<br /><br /><br /><br />http://realscreen.com/2017/11/30/history-readies-lucky-8s-charles-manson-event-special/ DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-51290486669048981432017-12-03T09:59:52.678-05:002017-12-03T09:59:52.678-05:00Gee, is this all not akin to the line in JFK about...Gee, is this all not akin to the line in JFK about riddles-borrowed from Sir Winston re; Russia- and mysteries wrapped in enigma?<br /><br />Certainly fun to speculate but certain elements may ultimately be unknowable.Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12416375659975396332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-36672035778435207032017-12-03T07:01:11.631-05:002017-12-03T07:01:11.631-05:00Rob "I don't comment here" KingRob "I don't comment here" KingMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-79267403148905777702017-12-02T22:09:24.893-05:002017-12-02T22:09:24.893-05:00shows he was listener
Listening, even.
...<b>shows he was listener</b><br /><br />Listening, even.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />That was for you, Rob.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-46466452568877458662017-12-02T22:07:56.638-05:002017-12-02T22:07:56.638-05:00Rob King said...
Grim Tiresome
Isn't he ... Rob King said...<br /><br /> <b>Grim Tiresome</b><br /><br />Isn't he just !grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-44925280995709657482017-12-02T19:13:37.723-05:002017-12-02T19:13:37.723-05:00There is at least one indication that the Family d...There is at least one indication that the Family did listen to Abbey Road and did find hidden meaning in those songs. <br /><br />Sanders mentions Gypsy referring to murders on a beach near Santa Barbara as "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and being excited about it. The timing is off, however. <br /><br />It is possible that the details of any influence of Abbey Road on Manson and/or the Family is simply not available to us. The album would not have been relevant to VB. It is post murders- so no 'spotlight'. And I don't recall anyone ever asking any of them about it. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551377673977145628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-69673297293405320702017-12-02T17:43:52.896-05:002017-12-02T17:43:52.896-05:00Grim Tiresome.Grim Tiresome.Zeke002https://www.blogger.com/profile/06840313537277994071noreply@blogger.com