tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post825934982715926104..comments2024-03-18T15:40:57.986-04:00Comments on The Manson Family Blog: 5000 miles from Spahn - Dormer Cottage and the Talgarth HotelMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13054039082708555072015-10-12T19:04:48.370-04:002015-10-12T19:04:48.370-04:00Orwhut - now I want some. That Bruce Davis has a l...Orwhut - now I want some. That Bruce Davis has a lot to answer for...MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-30151326872841770682015-10-12T18:32:28.976-04:002015-10-12T18:32:28.976-04:00I couldn't take it any longer. I went to the ...I couldn't take it any longer. I went to the store and bought a rack of ribs.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55312595975450856852015-10-11T20:38:01.798-04:002015-10-11T20:38:01.798-04:00Simon,
Ditto on what Humpf said.Simon,<br />Ditto on what Humpf said.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-19445287721859482502015-10-11T19:43:00.592-04:002015-10-11T19:43:00.592-04:00MHN said...
"..you have to stoop down to pul...<br />MHN said...<br /><br />"..you have to stoop down to pull up from the mud the tip of a root that has burrowed 5000 miles through the soil to find you, even though you can only dream of ever travelling far enough to see the branches of the tree itself."<br /><br />MHN, you are starting to sound like Charlie:):)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-79256743897479916702015-10-11T19:14:22.599-04:002015-10-11T19:14:22.599-04:00Matt - if I remember rightly, Lamarr's reply w...Matt - if I remember rightly, Lamarr's reply was, "shit-kicker". Greatest film ever.<br /><br />Robert: I've never thought of things that way. I am not free. There is no wrong path, but neither am I ever happy that a step towards the truth has been taken. Your deduction is remarkable and accurat:, I found a wife who understands that sometimes without warning you have to stoop down to pull up from the mud the tip of a root that has burrowed 5000 miles through the soil to find you, even though you can only dream of ever travelling far enough to see the branches of the tree itself.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55602828866403710582015-10-11T18:33:05.861-04:002015-10-11T18:33:05.861-04:00Yes thanks Simon for the link to your site on Joel...Yes thanks Simon for the link to your site on Joel Pugh. Very good work.Mr. Humphrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574243483977353223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-1118841720397545732015-10-11T13:36:39.247-04:002015-10-11T13:36:39.247-04:00MICHAEL: Do YOU realize how lucky (blessed) you a...MICHAEL: Do YOU realize how lucky (blessed) you are?<br /><br />Everytime YOU come to a fork in the road - whichever path you take is the RIGHT one - cause there is NO WRONG one for you.<br /><br />I'm guessing YOUR wife recognizes this, otherwise YOU never would have left the dinner table.<br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-33247342338168636212015-10-11T13:14:02.705-04:002015-10-11T13:14:02.705-04:00God darnit, Mr. Michael, you use your tongue prett...God darnit, Mr. Michael, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore. <br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-71120883151007740352015-10-11T12:47:57.191-04:002015-10-11T12:47:57.191-04:00Robert, the truth is more prosaic. My guess is, mo...Robert, the truth is more prosaic. My guess is, most people can see something Mansonesque in their psyche. I suppose that's one reason for the enduring interest. The truth is I can't find myself: I love and admire human civilisation and its accomplishments but love to see them in ruins, reclaimed by desert or buried under tons of volcanic ash. I believe in personal freedom and democracy but also think people are mindless sheep who are happy to be dominated, and so deserve to be dominated. I believe a conspiracy rules the earth, but I know that it doesn't. I believe in love, but I know that contempt and disdain fit me more comfortably. I pray daily that God will forgive me for knowing that he is not really there. I find myself compelled to maintain a belief in God because who else will rain down fire from the skies onto the race of vermin currently masquerading as humanity? <br /><br />Always extremities and always mutually exclusive opposites grinding away inside. Purpose and meaninglessness. Sense, no sense. A notion that all I see is an illusion, for which I am dismally responsible. All human interaction a fiction with arbitrary rules.<br /><br />Psychotherapy is expensive, so I read about Manson and dream about the desert instead. One day the desert will reclaim everything, I will be gone, you will be gone, Bugliosi will be gone, Tex will be gone, but Manson might just never die.<br /><br />That's all. Enough?MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-38929302538124511232015-10-11T12:24:26.583-04:002015-10-11T12:24:26.583-04:00Simon Wells - thanks for your work on Joel Pugh. I...Simon Wells - thanks for your work on Joel Pugh. I'm really glad to hear his family were involved in your research, it gives him back his humanity. I enjoyed your book very much, and especially the service you did Joel by telling his story rather than treating him merely as another pawn in the Manson saga.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-85127703588326103412015-10-11T11:08:10.982-04:002015-10-11T11:08:10.982-04:00MICHAEL: Try and SEE it from our point of view. T...MICHAEL: Try and SEE it from our point of view. There is a photo of a very young girl and "comments" from a VERY, VERY tuned in guy (sounds like HE could be maybe 60 years old) AND this guy gets up from a Family meal to explore (on HIS own) a deserted village where once an infamous KILLER stayed.<br /><br />NO Intelligence agency WANTS you - they NEED you.<br /><br />So what is YOUR real story - or is it simply just another one of those: "No sense makes sense kind'a things ?<br /><br />My guess is, YOU see some of YOU in Manson.<br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-20069135525765594072015-10-11T11:05:07.742-04:002015-10-11T11:05:07.742-04:00Thank you Matt,
Anyone with further information p...Thank you Matt,<br /><br />Anyone with further information please contact me through the blog.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />SimonSimon Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188423523885811856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-55865405399178479592015-10-11T10:56:34.557-04:002015-10-11T10:56:34.557-04:00Joel Pugh's story is very saddening. Reading a...Joel Pugh's story is very saddening. Reading about a young man ending his life over untreated depression is never fun.<br /><br />Thank you Simon Wells for your great work. It was yet one more Manson myth properly debunked in a scholarly way.<br /><br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766282574442161929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-30029507858845899622015-10-11T09:16:19.817-04:002015-10-11T09:16:19.817-04:00Hi,
Thanks for the name-check MHN - can I just ad...Hi,<br /><br />Thanks for the name-check MHN - can I just add that in my researches, I had the full assistance from Joel's family, namely Daniel and David jnr, who they helped fill in the gaps to this young man's tragic demise and were able to help construct a timeline to Joel's movements. Additional help was received from Joel's best friend Jim Balfour, whose clarity of memory was vital to securing a sense of reality to the story. <br /><br />What struck me as most shocking in this case, was the fact that NO ONE who were claiming to suspect that Joel had been "murdered" by BD, had the courtesy to contact any member of the Pugh family to at least check on the circumstances and connection to Sandy/Family (which were vague and tenuous at times)<br /><br />Additionally, as you can see from the infamous letter to Sandy, the heavily used quote was taken way out of context.<br /><br />http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7aS3Q_ChowA/TCDofM9DNlI/AAAAAAAAAGA/PAQ1BbvB1Hw/s1600/Letter-1%5B1%5D.jpg<br /><br />http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7aS3Q_ChowA/TCDofg3mGpI/AAAAAAAAAGI/sMGfBTafNJ8/s1600/Letter-2%5B2%5D.jpg<br /><br />Additionally, and most hurtful to those close to Joel, the first time family and friends knew of any suspicion over Joel's death was in reading "Helter Skelter". That's pretty shameful from my point of view.<br /><br />Hopefully my book and blog have gone some way to try and bring some closure on this.<br /><br />http://joelpughcharlesmanson.blogspot.co.uk/<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Simon Wells <br /><br /> Simon Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188423523885811856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-13267010380276799192015-10-11T08:21:28.800-04:002015-10-11T08:21:28.800-04:00And, thank you equinox. The Boxer is on youtube a...And, thank you equinox. The Boxer is on youtube as well. When I heard it, I realized I'd heard it many times before.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-53579521330316404632015-10-11T08:10:54.622-04:002015-10-11T08:10:54.622-04:00Ziggy, you little-englander, we've always been...Ziggy, you little-englander, we've always been a melting-pot. We have a kraut monarch for God's sake! Can you think of anyone more English than Elizabeth II of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family? Gawd bless you ma'am.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-22935382214151064082015-10-11T07:17:44.862-04:002015-10-11T07:17:44.862-04:00@orwhut
Orwhut, Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin used t...<br /><br />@orwhut<br /><br />Orwhut, Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin used the theremin on 'Whole Lotta Love'. There are a number of clips of him doing so live on YouTube.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-90893051128075149992015-10-11T06:37:28.847-04:002015-10-11T06:37:28.847-04:00MHN said...
"Some of the MPs have had wonder...<br />MHN said...<br /><br />"Some of the MPs have had wonderful old British names:<br /><br />Hon. George Joachim Goschen"<br /><br /><br />It doesn't get any more British than that, mate. Herr Goschen was likely from the Upper Battenberg region of England. <br /><br />The only more British name that I can think of, other than Goschen, is Disraeli.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-31869729122036338612015-10-11T06:11:03.737-04:002015-10-11T06:11:03.737-04:00Thanks, Jenn. I don't believe I've ever h...Thanks, Jenn. I don't believe I've ever heard The Boxer.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-74412705607744640252015-10-11T03:59:08.754-04:002015-10-11T03:59:08.754-04:00Yes, theremin. Think the solo in Simon and Garfunk...Yes, theremin. Think the solo in Simon and Garfunkel's The Boxer. Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16318651628897411177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-67222406323427633082015-10-10T22:27:31.460-04:002015-10-10T22:27:31.460-04:00OOO-EEE-OOO
I'm watching "It Came From Ou...OOO-EEE-OOO<br />I'm watching "It Came From Outer Space" on Svengoolie. (That's right, I never grew up.) There's heavy use of the SciFi music machine in the first scenes. I believe it's called a theremin. The movie is set in the desert, and there might even be an entrance to an underground civilization around there somewhere.orwhuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724866498802431665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-45511479231738079462015-10-10T18:29:11.636-04:002015-10-10T18:29:11.636-04:00Robert, Dormer Cottage is in a very secluded villa...Robert, Dormer Cottage is in a very secluded village, in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by fields and woodland. It's not a graffiti type of place. Which made the presence of the 'c word' on the side of that abandoned car all the more surprising to me. Also, as I say, the cottage has to be reached via some very snarly undergrowth.<br /><br />Republican? The area has returned a Conservative MP to Parliament since the 1860s, with a brief Liberal interlude from 1906-1910. Some of the MPs have had wonderful old British names:<br /><br />Alfred Erskine Gathorne-Hardy<br />Henry Strother Cautley<br />Evelyn Violet Elizabeth Emmet<br />Hon. George Joachim Goschen<br />Edgar March Crookshank<br />Henry Norman Spalding (Hooray for Captain Spaulding?! "One morning, I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know")<br /><br />And now, in terminal decline, we live in the age of Dave and Tony. Ugh. If Britain were an animal I would have it humanely put to sleep.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-88837797014124034072015-10-10T18:24:01.673-04:002015-10-10T18:24:01.673-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-49012120353427973742015-10-10T14:56:49.726-04:002015-10-10T14:56:49.726-04:00OMG - I just realized, EXCEPT for some writing on ...OMG - I just realized, EXCEPT for some writing on the side of the blue car, there is NO grafetti. What kind of "foreign" (alien) place is this? Must be the original birth-place of the annaly fixated Republicans.<br /><br />Looks like YOU guys NEED some very "liberal" aretiests to liven-up YOUR stere-al neighbors.<br /><br /><br />Robert Hendricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880909248364077567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8171370990642927748.post-91980943901194383712015-10-10T14:08:26.399-04:002015-10-10T14:08:26.399-04:00Matt, that's like, you know, just kinda your o...Matt, that's like, you know, just kinda your opinion 'n' stuff. We've gone downhill fast. Fact is, most Americans I know, and I've known many, speak English far more elegantly and less crudely than the average Brit. It's just that none of the Brits on Mansonblog are average, naturally.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.com