The political component in the Hinman murder
Given that two clues left at the Hinman crime scene--the words "Political Piggy" written in blood on the wall, and a half-burnt pile of what was described as 'political tracts' found on the floor of the house--you'd think the detectives would have investigated the victim's political beliefs and activities, Though there is no evidence they ever did.
Other clues also brought up the political angle:
--BB returns to the scene to remove the word 'political' from the wall
www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-59b.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2toa2FqipsXsGa3-DrBD3DfKGhTkwL0lsx-KT3v2wUWkVZgNjP1KHVCv8
box 59b pg493of1120 Ella Jo Bailey testimony:
"The words "Political piggy" was written on the wall and later Charles Manson told them that they were going to have to take the word "Political" off the words."
--A zine called "the Maotist" found by detectives in the mailbox at Hinman's house
Beausoleil trial, Nov 14, 1969
Witness sees copy of "Maotist Review" in Hinman's mailbox.
"... It is a paper, that's got the views of Mao Tse Tung on it. ... This is the Chinese Communist philosophy."
cielodrive.com/bobby-beausoleil-parole-hearing-2005.php
Hinman was known to associate frequently with radical militant
(indiscernible) on the UCLA campus and Beausoleil decided to try to
make it look as though Hinman had been killed by some of these other
associates by burning some of Hinman's Marxist newspapers on the floor,
and by drawing 'political pig' on the wall in the victim's blood.
web.archive.org/web/20140209204015/http://truthontatelabianca.com/threads/true-detective-1970.2881/
DeCarlo said that for several days before the death of Hinman he had overheard conversation between Beausoleil and Manson in which they referred to Hinman as a "political pig who should die."
www.mansonblog.com/search/label/Mary%20Brunner
...during Bobby's 2010 parole hearing he told the board that the reason he put blame on black people is because he wanted to blame the murder on some of the "radical" people that Gary Hinman was involved with at UCLA. He also told the board that Gary was involved with black people that were radicals, and that he (Gary) was into radical philosophies, etc.
www.bardachreports.com/articles/oa_19811100.htm
Gary Hinman, had been a hippie renaissance figure in the '60s: a Ph.D. candidate in Sociology at U.C.L.A., a political activist...
cielodrive.com/bobby-beausoleil-parole-hearing-2008.php
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY SEQUEIRA: And why would the inmate(BB) tell the police that he bought it(the stolen Fiat) from a Black man?
INMATE BEAUSOLEIL: Possibly for the same reason that I tried to make it look like it was a Black Panther -- the Black Panther Party ... had problems with Gary.
http://www.cielodrive.com/bobby-beausoleil-trial-11-14-69-am.php#gk
Glen Krell testimony
A: He(Hinman) was very close to a Ph.D. in political science at U.C.L.A. ,,, He was very firm, and I believe he would have stood by his convictions to the point of death, and he had very firm political beliefs.
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Now I don't think Gary's politics were the motive for his murder, though that may have contributed to Charlie's dislike of Hinman generally. To me the most interesting thing is the way both Manson and the LASO seemed to want to avoid this topic altogether.
There is a good possibility that the Gary Hinman name may have come to the attention of the various government agencies --the LAPD, the FBI, the CIA, Army Counter-Intelligence--due to his radical leftist beliefs. Especially if he was an activist, and especially if he associated with the Black Panthers, who were being intensely surveilled.
It should be noted the Nicherin Shoshu Buddhist Temple that Gary had joined was bugged by the FBI at the Rancho Cucamonga main temple(for their anti-nuclear weapons stance).
Were the powers-that-be worried that going down this road would expose a sensitive national security operation that consisted of illegally keeping files on US citizens based solely on their political beliefs? Could Gary Hinman even have been under surveillance by these agencies in July of '69?
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Has anybody found out whether, in fact, Hinman had an FBI file and, if so, made any efforts to obtain a copy of it? Also, if Manson wanted to make the LASO think that militant radicals were responsible for Hinman's murder, why then did he change his mind and decide to have somebody return to the house and remove the "Political" part from the wall?
No FBI file on Hinman ever surfaced. It makes no sense to try and tie it to be political and then try to undo it.
Another point of interest may be in the etiology of the "Political Piggy" inscription on Gary's wall. It has always appeared to me to be the work of two writers. It may have started out as "Pig," by perhaps Susan, but then the remaining words were written by Bobby--and perhaps they were. I don't recall the citation(s) to the ultimate authorship.
Also, when I compare the writing at Gary's to the writing on the Tate door, I see a similarity to one of the "G" at Gary's, but not the other.
Seems a bit funny to me that there is a focus on the word 'political' on the wall, when a far greater clue/red herring is right there in the form of an obvious (panther) paw print. Also, I don't think Atkins could be relied upon to correctly spell anything longer than 'pig', any more than Krenwinkel could spell 'Helter'.
Although it’s been said Bobby returned to Hinman’s to remove the words from the wall, there’s no indication he even tried to. No smears or scrub marks.
Schreck claimed that Hinman was an FBI informant in the first version of "The Manson File." Does anybody know if he still made that claim in the new version?
The first version of Shrek's Manson File came out in 1988 and was more of a zine than a book. The 2nd version was a (very thick) book and yes did quote Chuckles saying that Hinman was an FBI snitch. I paid for a copy of the 3rd version but never received it... and know of at least one other person that was similarly shafted (thanks Nicholas). I suppose he had to subsidise his born-again Buddhist lifestyle somehow but I wasn't expecting such a blatant rip-off. Never trust an ex-satanist. :-)
Was the word PIGGY in the wall message the cause of Pic Dawson having been an early suspect? The faintness of the bottom part of the first G makes it resemble the letter C.
Pic briefly became a suspect because of what was written on the door at Cielo. Nothing to do with Hinman.
Thank you Star.
I never received my book either. Then when I asked him about it he blocked me. Nice guy
Yep. The other person I know that he shafted was also Oztralian. I guess he figures that we're far enough away that he can safely screw us over. I might have to talk to some friends in Europe and see if I can organise a creepy crawl... and before anyone takes me seriously... just kidding... that was a joke
:-)
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