Vern Plumlee

Vern was the AWOL Marine who spent time at Spahn from July 1969 to September. He was "recaptured" by Uncle Sam and spent enough time in the brig for prosecutors to identify him as a witness and plan to use him during the trial. He escaped from the brig but was recaptured - again. He brashly bragged about killing 3 people and also said that he witnessed Manson and Grogan killing someone in the desert. He was a master of changing stories, it seems. Plumlee was convicted and sentenced to 5 years to life in an unrelated robbery stabbing.

After parole, he worked as a welder and raised a family.

Origins of the Black Bus

On page 18 of Ed Sander's latest release of "The Family," he writes that "It was in Sacramento where they seem to have traded the Volkswagen bus as down payment for an old yellow school bus...On October 16, 1967, at the Stewart E. Miller Standard Chevron Station...they outfitted the school bus with a thirty-nine dollar battery and two sets of 825-20 tires costing $216.20." Panamint Patty found an old reverse lookup Sacramento phone directory from 1968 and located the gas station which is now a plain vanilla used car lot at 6401 Stockton Boulevard in the part of town now known as "Little Saigon." This was a surprise, since she expected the gas station would likely be on a freeway on- or off-ramp. However, In 1967, Stockton Boulevard was the main way in and out of town to the south: there was no 99, no 5 connecting Northern and Southern California. And today, there is no Stewart E. Miller Chevron station: So you may say that Patty's adventure was a bust. But then again...So many of these sites are disappearing into the mist forty years later. She hopes that some of you may be inspired to do a little sleuthing of your own and perhaps one of us will find something truly amazing...

Shoshone Caves

This is our very own Grump From Pahrump at the Shoshone Caves. This is the comment he provided with the photo, "Me exploring one of the Shoshone caves, where Paul, Brooks etc lived. This one is a 3 room one!". ------------------------ From Little Paul's Book: The hillsides around Shoshone are riddled with man made caves, dug originally by itinerant miners, prospectors, and other vagabonds, who, over the years, found the town a convenient oasis in the scorching lowlands of the Amargosa Valley. Shoshone was also a water stop on the railroad line and for a time the site of a thriving hobo jungle which centered in and around the tufa caves. Crockett and Poston were broke and living in one of those caves when I arrived on October 9. Don Ward had told them (as he did me) not to leave Shoshone, that the Barker Ranch was about to be busted.

19844 Horseshoe Rd.

Charlie and company lived here for about three months. I might be wrong but I think parts of Ramrodder were filmed here. It looks like the house has been remodeled. It looks very different from the rest of the homes in the area. I think the plaster was done and the windows have been replaced with modern glass. It's the location though.


Thanks to Ken for the write-up and 
the awesome paparazzi work.

Spahn Ranch - February 2011

thank you to Stacey for the pictures

Last Supper Anyone??

menu-no trans fat woohoo!

thanks to Stacey for the pic's

what Lynn recently had to say

Letter from Lynn written August 2009 http://www.georgethomasclark.com/?p=1261

Q & A Friday

from Gerard-Does anyone know what happened to Chuck Lovett? He seems to have dropped out of sight after Hawthorne. And also what is weird is there are no pictures of him any where. Not even going to court. from Stacey- What was the meal Sharon Tate ate at El Coyote? from Eviliz- what ever happened to Angel Kasabian? from a whole bunch of people- does anyone know what happened to mark turner's site-charliemanson.com it is gone.

The Devil's Advocate Has Got His Own Problems, Apparently.

The Reader.es reported last Sunday that Saddam Hussein's lawyer Giovanni Di Stefano will not be representing Charlie anytime soon. He will be facing charges of fraud and misappropriation of funds in the UK once he has fully recovered from recent surgery to repair his rectal sores. You can't make this stuff up, people.

eviliz- day late and a dollar $hort

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/22/charles-manson-president-barach-obama-fax-attorney-saddam-hussein-giovanni-destefano-satan-pardon/


clink link to see the letter to the Prez


The Devil's Advocate Attorney Di Stefano says his
newest devil -Charlie Manson was nothing more than a cult leader, not a murderer.  Manson didn't do the killings. 
At worst he might be guilty of telling his followers to "do something witchy".   Never specifying murder."   

Wtf is the definition of "witchy" anyway? 
Kinda broad, given the source.


Now we all know Charlie was not found of blacks. 
He said the white women getting with the black men is ruining the the gene pool.  Isn't who the letter is written to The President-one of those people from the ruined  gene pool?  I wonder if when Obama was elected, did Charlie
start preaching- "I told you they would rise up and take over!" BUT-       It was "comin down slowly"
by taking 40 something years. 
  

 the link above will get you the whole letter.  here is some of the same old song and dance in the letter to The Prez.  (Thanks to Stacey for the link)

“I have killed no one and I have ordered no one to be killed."

I don't recall ever saying "Get a knife and a change of clothes and go do what Tex

says."

Or I don't recall saying "Get a knife and go kill the Sherriff."