Manson Lookalike - Amy Sedaris

That is f-ing hilarious

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Martha Marcy May Marlene.....Manson?

Yes, the movie I am referring to has been out for quite a while (2011), but.....I saw it again last night, and was struck about how many similarities there were in the "family" portrayed in this movie, and the real "Family" headed by one Charles Manson. Little details in the movie were very similar, indeed. Of course, I am quite sure the producers of Martha Marcy May Marlene were not interested in making another Manson-movie at all, but it was clever how they implanted little details in the storyline. What I wonder is this: did a lot of the Manson girls behave in similar fashion to the main character in this movie? Were they as damaged? Traumatized, perhaps? Yeah, yeah, I know this movie is old news, but it is interesting to me. This movie, in my opinion was well done, and opens up the door to discussion on the similarities.....Shall we discuss, or do I really need to get a life?

Q&A Misty Hay

Does anyone have any info on Misty Hay?

Article from Ole JC.

Some New Clem Pics

Maybe one day we'll get him without a hat on. Lol.

Thanks, Ole JC!

Mountjoy writes about Tex Watson

en.wikipedia.org



As promised in his article about Charles Manson, psychologist Paul Mountjoy has written an article about Tex Watson.  Unfortunately I didn't see any secrets being revealed, it pretty much read like the same old stuff we've been treated to ad nauseum over the years.  You be the judge.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/steps-authentic-happiness-positive-psychology/2013/mar/17/charles-manson-vs-charles-watson/

Windy on Larry Bailey

Using the name Larry Jones, Larry Bailey was living at Windy's home along with Juan Flynn and Johnny Schwartz during the TLB trial.  Larry had said he was scared being around the other Family members all the time and asked if he could stay there, too.  He settled in and for all intent appeared to fit in with everyone there. Both Juan and Johnny were scheduled to testify at the TLB trial in the near future.  Windy, Juan and Johnny were soon to learn that Larry was there for another purpose.

During the day they would all go to their respective jobs.  In the evening they would go back to Windy's for the night.  I believe Juan and Larry were still working at Spahn and Johnny was working for man that sold hay.  Johnny Schwartz liked western movies and TV shows and sat in front of the TV most of the time in the evening with the thing blaring.  Juan was usually restless pacing around and doing different things.  Windy would take care of her daughter, cook and the like.

One night they heard some commotion outside and it put everyone on alert.  Then it sounded like someone was on the roof and they were trying to saw through it!  Juan jumped and got a shotgun and started firing at the ceiling, many times.  Windy said that Johnny calmly sat there watching his show while Juan was shooting up the place and said "It's getting a little western out tonight." They eventually went outside and sure enough someone had tried to saw through the roof.

Juan was the one to figure out that Larry was a Manson plant that turned out to be a snitch.  He was telling the Family members that were sympathetic to Manson where Juan and Johnny were staying and what the routine was around Windy's .  The Family hatched a plan to killed both Juan and Johnny before they could testify because they thought their testimony would hurt Manson.  Naturally, they botched the thing entirely.

Ah, but no bad deed goes unpunished.  Juan didn't let on to Larry that he knew that Larry was the snitch.  One night Juan, Johnny and Windy took Larry out for the evening or so he thought. They took him to a spot near Spahn Ranch, stripped him naked and tied him to a tree and left him there.  I'm betting that ranch hands can tie some pretty decent knots. Windy has no idea how long he was there or how he became untied but they didn't have trouble with him any more.

A Psychologist Interviews and Speaks Out on Charles Manson

current.com

A Virginia based psychologist, Paul Mountjoy, landed an interview with Manson.  His goal was to try to determine which psychological disorders fit Manson's personality. 

In an upcoming article at the publication Mountjoy  will share some insight on Tex, who he says revealed a secret.

"According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders V- TR, (DSM-V- TR) the criteria used by mental health professionals, those with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD) are skilled at hiding their disorder and seem outwardly friendly and accommodating. They are skilled at verbal manipulation and can escape detection for years, even for life. They may appear normal and charming but they are devoid of compassion and sympathy and do not relate to pain, suffering and hurt experienced by others. They truly could not care less."

Read more HERE

Q&A on James Craig

From our curious German friends-

Why do you think AB member Craig was murdered?

Windy discusses Spahn Ranch

Windy was kind enough to take a Life magazine picture of Spahn Ranch and label it showing what each part of the main building was used for and what the surrounding things were in the picture.  She accompanied this with a narrative of how living and eating arrangements were before Charles Manson and the others arrived.  Windy also included a little bit about after the Family's arrival.

"OK, LOOK AT THE photo I have attached. This was it. No road covered with trees, no bungalows or whatever they were supposed to be. One of the guys, either Larry or Ben slept in the jail. It had a bunk, dresser, nite stand and a place to hang his clothes. It looked just like a cell in the old towns. It had a desk for the sheriff and places to hang guns, hats wanted posters, etc. during the day the jail was open to visitors but the cell was locked. It had electric lights etc. Now the general store was always locked but had posters of stuff you could have bought if it were a real town. The saloon was open for visitors but didn’t sell nothing. People could go in and sit and bring a picnic lunch if they wanted, we did sell soda. The café had an adjoining door and could also be used by visitors but we didn’t use it ourselves unless we were having a party with outsiders. We cooked and ate at the table in Georges house. YOU went up the steps and into the living room. To the right was Pearl's Room - always kept locked, and to the left was the area where the table set with the kitchen beyond that with a open divider and on the back wall was George's room. In the living room on the back wall was a beautiful marble mantle hand carved with colored marble animals. Near that sat George's chair. He sat there all the time with a little dog. At the far end of the living room (it wasn’t real large) was a couch and a couple overstuffed chairs. Under George's house (as you were facing it) to the right were steps going down (rather steep) turn left and there was the bathroom and next to it a shower. (the only one on the whole place except down at the lower ranch house. Both places (I believe) were connected to cisterns for water.

Now the reason the general store was locked: you could enter it from behind through the harness shop and it had been divided into several small private rooms each with a bed, dresser, chair and closet. The men decorated to suit themselves. There was also a storage room off the saloon and it too was a room for a man (or a woman) the same with the café, it was a pantry I guess. There were times when all the rooms were full. When we all lived there, we kept the mountains clean and had no near fires. It took a crew to run horses to graze each spring. We grazed the entire area off until there was no fire danger. Manson’s crew caused the fires because no one would stay there to work.

There were some trees leading down the road to the lower ranch house and the outlaw shacks. We had electricity there and running water. But there were no flowers to pick or hardly anywhere to run around like they showed. There was no water fall at Spahn’s ranch. They would have to cross over and go down into Devil’s Canyon. That was on the other side of the road.

Actually, never saw the older kids much, I believe they kept them out of site, as they didn’t go to school, doctors, etc. I usually just saw the babies laying on blankets out in front of Spahn's house., Cold or not they would be naked. Sometimes a half a dozen or more. I covered them up and Charlie would have a fit. He said they’d grow up strong and never feel the cold if started that way (he had on a jacket off course).. I said they’d probably die of pneumonia. I still believe some did.

There were a lot more people staying there than they show in any book, movie or magazine. A lot of them were probably runaways and stayed hidden. I would see half dressed pregnant girls down by the shacks and the lower house that I never saw up top.

The dancing and partying they showed could have been in the saloon or café although neither were very large. The room they showed didn’t exist. Neither did the rooms or the beds or the cleanliness of it all. There were no laundry facilities. The shower under Georges house was mainly cold because we couldn’t keep the hot water tank working. Sometimes it did and we’d all rush to take a warm shower. Lots of times it was just was in a bowl with heated water from the stove. They generally wore those long dresses that the hippies made popular, and it seemed they all had greasy hair. Or the girls ran around with no bras, tank tops shorts so short they might as well have been naked, boobs showing etc. Most of the men ended up looking the same. Hair a mess and stubble or beards, again half naked most of the time."