Ex-Scientologists Argue Scientology's involvement in Manson & Zodiac killings

"Anybody who tries to downplay Scientology's involvement in Manson & Zodiac killings is part of misinformation campaign"

On this message board you can observe a recent discussion among Ex-Scientologists regarding the Zodiac & Manson murders' Scientology connection.

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Manson Hopes to Pay His Way With Record Album

San Francisco Examiner
December 26, 1969 - pg. 18

LOS ANGELES — (UPI) — Hippie cult leader Charles Manson hopes to finance his legal defense against seven counts of murder in the Sharon Tate slayings by selling a record album.

George E. Shibley, the lawyer who is handling Sirhan B. Sirhan's appeal and who has identified himself as an old friend of Manson, says the defendant is conducting negotiations with a record company.

Shibley said the negotiations are in connection with tapes Manson recorded prior to his arrest.

The attorney said the bearded, long-haired Manson learned to play the guitar while in federal prison several years ago and is considered an excellent guitarist and "an adequate vocalist." He said the album will contain a number of protest songs and numbers Manson improvised.

Manson was known as a musician in the Haight-Ashbury District of San Francisco where he lived after his release from prison, before he and his followers known as "The Manson Family" moved to Southern California.

Susan Atkins, a defendant turned informer on the Tate killings last August and the slayings two days later of Leno LaBianca and his wife, has indicated Manson bore a grudge against Terry Melcher, son of Doris Day. The grudge came about, Miss Atkins said, when the young producer was not interested in recording Manson's songs.

Miss Atkins, 21, claimed Melcher's home became a "symbol of rejection" to Manson and he later sent his followers to the Benedict Canyon house, by that time occupied by Miss Tate.

Paul Dostie and Buster

Here at Eviliz we like to keep up with our good friend Sgt. Paul Dostie and his wonder dog Buster!  Both have done some amazing work finding remains.  This is Paul and Buster's most recent endeavor.

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http://thesheetnews.com/archives/18018

Charlie Plays in San Francisco

Herb Caen was a well known San Francisco Chronicle columnist famous for his "three dot journalism" because of how he separated his little scoops when writing his gossipy tidbits about the San Francisco scene.  Charlie is mentioned in Caen's Dec. 17, 1969 column just a few days after he was charged in the Tate LaBianca murders. 

 

Baba's On-Line Sex Offender Registration... at age 92

Deane Moorehouse was convicted in the late 80‘s of molesting his own children. He is listed on the Megan's Law website.

To the end of his life he still spoke of the virtues and yes, the total innocence of Charlie. He never renounced Manson.

Uncle Rico starring in .............

Everybody probably knew this already, but just thought I would post it anyway, just for shits & giggles......As you may know, Napolean Dynamite has become a true Hollywood cult-classic. Well, actually, I just think it is funny as shit, regardless of the film's status....BUT.... Did you know that the actor who played "Uncle Rico" so well in Napolean Dynamite ALSO played a minor, supporting role in another Hollywood classic? Yes, you are reading this correctly: Uncle Rico, who was played by Jon Gries ALSO played "William Garretson" in Helter Skelter (1976 version)!! What movie trivia! How about a clip? You do have to skip to 11:31 to see the part I am referring to.

BOOK REPORT Popular Crime Reflections on the Celebration of Violence

Eviliz is a lover of all true crime stories and frequents the library in search of the newest releases.  My newest read comes with a complimentary type up of the Charlie parts to share with the blog.-

Popular Crime Reflections on the Celebration of Violence   
by Bill James published in 2011.  

It’s your basic run of the mill A-Z true crime book.  Lizzie Borden and O.J. plus everyone in between.  The title of the book contains the words ~“Popular Crime Reflections” yet Manson and the Family are mentioned three times without even a description of the crimes and only mentions one victim, Sharon Tate. Were the crimes considered not “popular” or worth “reflecting on?”

The writer composed 18 elements which characterize crimes.

Here are 2 of the 18 elements I found amusing plus the one which mentions Charlie.

“The tabloid elements- which involve soap opera like stories and are media driven.

Killer on the loose story elements- receive attention due to the public’s perception that they may be in actual danger.  The Beltway sniper was a Killer on the Loose story, as were John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, and Charles Starkweather.

Bizarre elements- cause stories to stand out from the mass of criminal events by gruesome, grotesque and extremely unusual features.  Jeffrey Dahmer is a Bizarre story, as is Charles Manson and Winnie Judd, the Trunk Murderess (1931).  Any story involving unusual amounts of cruelty could be called a Bizarre story.

Page 265~ “I have no empirical evidence to support what I’m saying, but go to the library, and look up magazines from 1965 to 1968.  You’ll find volumes of essays about the “generation gap,” the split of society into young and old.  Very, very few of those articles will make any mention of the assassination of JFK.   It’s an easy, after-the-fact dividing line between the generations, but it’s just not true.  On the other hand, the cultural impact of the Manson murders is enormously under appreciated.  The murder of Sharon Tate rocked the nation when the counter culture was just past its peak.  The arrest and trial of Charles Manson and his followers delivered to young Americans a simple message of enormous impact: that evil men, adorned with flowers, would look much the same as saints.  A culture based on categorical trust and unconditional acceptance was a balloon waiting to burst, and Charles Manson was the needle.

We didn’t ask ourselves what evil lurked beneath the skin of strangers, so long as they dressed like us.  Evil belonged to the other generations, to the hard cases among our generation who would not open their hearts.  Was this naive?  It was preposterously naive.  We were younger than young.  The sixties weren’t cynical, and they certainly didn’t come about after the loss of the nation’s innocence.  They were innocence personified, innocence run amok.  They could not co-exist with personified evil."

Page 286-  In the three cases ca. (Manson, Hearst and Power), career criminals, a few years older than the baby boomers, adopted the guise of revolutionaries in order to seduce young women – seduce them sexually, but also to seduce them into becoming accomplices, to seduce them into a life sustained by violent crime.

Charles Manson worked with society's least favored, with young girls who had run away from dysfunctional families, or who had been driven away by physical and sexual abuse.  He adopted not the central ideas of the revolution, but the marginalia- the clothes, the hair, the music- and used these to build a “family,” a cult of people who had abandoned normal life in order to do whatever Charlie wanted.  This cult he then used as a weapon against bourgeois society that he felt had humiliated him, intending nothing except to cause pain, to cause harm.

Pretty accurate wouldn’t you say?

Rare Manson Family footage

Who Was Mark Ross? Argosy May 1970

 

According to Deemer's list Mark Ross was born Feb. 27, 1945 and had addresses in New York and the now well known 28 Clubhouse Dr. Venice CA address where John "Zero" Haught died.  According to the article below the way Ross, aka Y L Freeman, tells it, he was living at Spahn Ranch in 1968 in the house at the back ranch with John aka Crazy Jake.  His story in Argosy is at odds with what Paul Watkins wrote in "My Life With Charles Manson" chapter 23, which says that when Paul came back to the Family after Manson was arrested in Inyo County that Ross was a newcomer to the Family.  Some sources say that it was Ross who arranged for Laurence Merrick and Robert Hendrickson to film the Family for the movie "Manson".  I'm not sure if that is true.

First of all Crazy Jake in the Argosy story is not really Crazy Jake but Irwin Kaufman Friedman aka Johnny Friedman and later Partee Friedman the masked man on Geraldo's Family reunion show.  Friedman was originally from New York, he was an artist, travelled extensively, also married extensively and begat lots of children.  He and his second wife, Patricia aka Holly, raised Ivan Pugh, Sandra Good's son with Beausoleil.  Partee Irwin Friedman died in Sonoma County CA Sept. 30, 2008 after living for many years in the Guerneville area, the same area where James Willett was killed in 1972.

So, I think that what Mark Ross aka Y Lee Freeman is relating in the Argosy article is actually mostly Irwin/Johnny/ Partee Friedman's story and that Mark Ross was never at Spahn before Manson was jailed.  I also think that Mark Ross was not his true name.  I've never been able to find a Mark Ross born Feb. 27, 1947 but I was able to find a Mark Rosen born on that date in Los Angeles.  Doing some checking I found that this Mark Rosen has an alias of Mark Ross and has lived in Los Angeles and Ventura counties.  He no longer lives in California.

If it is true that Mark Ross is not really Mark Ross it raises other questions for me, like why? And does he have more of an involvement in Zero's death than what is currently known?  What the hell else has he done to skew the Family history?

 

 

 

 

Goler's Legend

{The first mining stories out of the El Paso Mountains in the Western Mojave talk of discoveries in the narrow canyon known today as Goler Canyon or Goler Gulch. There are many different versions of the original story.}

Between 1867 and 1869, a German prospector named Goler on his way from Death Valley to Los Angeles is supposed to have stopped at a spring to have a drink of water and rest for a while. While taking a drink from the spring he looked into the water and saw gold nuggets lying there. Because he was worried about the Indians he did not stay long enough to investigate the area completely. He gathered up a few samples and continued on to Los Angeles. Goler tried to take a short cut and lost his way. When he realized he was lost he climbed to the top of a small hill and drew a map of the site to mark the location. To mark the location where he made the map he took his rifle and stuck the barrel in the ground and left it there so he might find it when he returned. Then he met Grant Cuddeback, a former prospector turned rancher. Cuddeback helped Goler organize an outfit to go back and find the gold three separate times before they found gold in Red Rock Canyon, where they mined for several years. Goler, still convinced he could find his gun and the spring, left the group.

{Throughout the years that followed, freighters coming back and forth from the successful mining camps north of Mojave, told stories of seeing a lonely man and his burro prospecting in the eastern El Paso foothills. While camping at Mesquite Springs, Freighter “Slate Range Jack” ran into Goler with more nuggets said to have been found 5 miles to the east of them. Many a man outfitted himself with prospecting supplies and headed into the Western Mojave in search of “The Lost Gunsight Mine” or “Goler’s Lost Gold." Unfortunately, the Mojave desert turned out to be riddled with many canyons that fit the description of the one on Goler’s map, and no gun could be found at the entrance to any of them. In 1893, when a bonanza was finally found in a dry narrow gulch in the Southern El Paso Mountains, many believed that this was the site of John Goler’s lost mine, and named the camp that grew up around it}

In March 1893, twenty six years after Goler left his rifle, the Goler Mining District was formed. A spring, which was a mile and a half up the canyon, is considered to be the spring Goler drank from when he found the gold nuggets. In the fall of 1893 a stage line was put into operation from the Goler diggings to connect to the stage line that came from Owens Lake to Mojave. This stage lone connected with the Mojave Line at Red Rock Stage Station. When some men would reach this point they would leave their teams and wagons to follow the “gold fever.”

Fifty years after Goler left his gun as a landmark, it was found on a cattle ranch about twenty miles north of Mojave, owned by Mrs. Rhoda Munsey and her son Will. Even after being left out in the elements for so many years, the words and dates on the gun left no doubt in anyone’s mind that this was the old Spencer Repeating Rifle right where Goler had left it so many years ago.

Above excerpted from Desert Country (2002) by Bob Powers and http://www.explorehistoricalif.com/lost_mines.html

Patty's takeaway from Goler's story is that everyone who found gold in the Mojave thought that they were finding Goler's lost claim. The Canyon in Death Valley is called Goler, but so is the mining village of Goler Gulch which is in Kern, not Inyo County. And, Mesquite Springs where he was supposedly seen with a handful of nuggets isn't near either one of these places. He is an enigma, or a legend. A dirty, dusty sasquatch or leprechaun who guards the entrance to untold, lost riches.

So now you know!