Off Topic: Dorothea Puente House

OK so this has nothing to do with Manson, but it's creepy so maybe you will like it.

There was this "sweet" little old lady named Dorothea Puente: ever heard of her? She got caught poisoning her boarding house tenants, burying them in her yard and then collecting their social security checks. All in all, seven bodies were found in what turns out to be a VERY small side yard surrounded on three sides by neighbors. Another two suspected victims were never found. Dorothea recently died at Chowchilla on 3/27/11, which is also where Susan Atkins passed on 9/24/09.

Anywhoo, a couple in Sacramento bought the beautiful old Victorian a few years back and completely remodeled it. It is their primary residence and is occasionally open for tours. Patty was lucky enough to be admitted to "the Puente House" on 9/15/2013. Obviously, the new owners have a sense of humor.

Some may find this entire spectacle repugnant or offensive, but we have to remember that what happened here is history. If we forget our history, or sweep it under the rug, we are bound to repeat our mistakes. A docent reminded Patty that we KNOW what happened in this house: think of all the things that happened in other houses that we will never know about? Nobody had to sell Patty on the idea mind you, the docent was preaching to the choir.

Here are Patty's photos for your viewing enjoyment:

The tour made national news. You can see the AP write up of the sacbee article , here on cbs.com.

Get Well rfoster1

Word has reached Eviliz.com that long-time behind the scenes rfoster1 has had a heart attack. The staff at Eviliz.com wants to acknowledge the fact that he has been a long time contributor who has asked nothing in the way of credit. We need more guys like him.

Hang in there rfoster1, we love you, buddy!!!!

Sharon Tate and her little sister Patti

I think B&W photo at 2:44 is Debra, but still a nice tribute.

Charles Manson Artwork

I knew Dennis Wilson, Laurence Merrick, Bob Hendrickson and Mark Ross

Recently I had an enjoyable conversation with "Phil", who through coincidence knew some of the peripheral characters in TLB back in the day. With his permission, these are the highlights we can share:

...I Lived on Los Feliz 1 mile to the west of LaBianca's. I was getting a clutch job at Hollywood Sports Cars when mechanic pointed to Wilson's trashed Ferrari '68.  It was red, not silver as reported in one documentary.

...[I thought] Mark Ross was a harmless, nice, sociable and intelligent gent.  He was, like most actors, obsessed with his career taking off. We had a bite at the Player's coffee shop and he talked about his acting ambitions, and he said he sold some of his custom hats to a studio. "At least they know me for something".  He never said anything about the Family. And I'm glad he didn't invite me to the ranch, because with my conservative appearance, they would have thrown buck knives.  I think he was just there for the girls, and he enjoyed the ceremonies and drugs.  One time he did a crucifix pose, when he was a bit stoned.  I wondered what that was about, until I hear it was a family thing. He dropped out of site, and someone said he knew too much about TLB.  And I heard that his van was set on fire. Once he showed up in the back of a Rolls Royce, didn't recognize who was driving, but could have been Wilson's. Mark was cracking his big, stentorian, toothy laugh.

...Met Dennis Wilson at the Brass Rail gun shop 1965 when it was at a hot location on Melrose and La Brea next to a very popular chili dog stand. We just talked about guns and cars. In '65 he looked like a teenager. Last saw him in 1966.

...Friend said  "they are shooting a motorcycle movie at the Paramount Ranch do you want to watch?" It was "The Black Angels". That's how I met Merrick and Hendrickson.  Ross played "Singer".  I had a white Ford pickup and Merrick asked me if he could shoot some scenes with a chopper in the bed.  So I spent one day driving thru the hilly roads seated next to Joan Huntington, with Jimmy Young on a chopper, acting up a storm.  Also enjoyed being roped in to do a stunt.  On youtube search:  the black angels trailer (1:34), that's me driving the white truck.

...So, I wound up sitting in at Merrick's classes in his studio on Vine. Where I met Hendrickson, we talked about Sergio Leone movies, etc but I left in '71 to help my mother with some problems she was having in the Convalescent Hospital Business.

...One strange incident. the day after Tate, I was on front lawn on Los Feliz and suddenly I felt I was being stared at, and cold fear ran thru me. There was traffic at the stoplight.  Later, I read that family was driving on Los Feliz looking for victims and someone said "How about him?" Manson said "No, he looks to big"  Was that me,  I wonder?  

...Before the murders my mother said some hippie girls knocked and she had a bad feeling about them and told them to go or she would call the police.  They left, and one yelled "Yeah, you go ahead and call the police!"  Manson girls? 

...The next night I was in back yard and hear some thumping and crashing in a neighbor's house.  I thought maybe he was moving stuff. He was being burglarized.  Could have been a creepy crawl.  They were in Los Feliz a lot.

...Then before moving to Las Vegas, I watched the trial and saw Hendrickson rocking out with his Arriflex out.  Way to go Bob!

...If I think of anymore details will let you know.  73 now, but I think I look better than Krenwinkel!

Cheers,
Phil

Man, Black Angels looks like it was one shitty movie. Did you notice the white guy in black face? Makes The Female Bunch look like Oscar material.

Pat's parole hearing of weirdness

People, people, people....What is going on? Why were there WEIRD things said in Patricia Krenkinkel's 2011 parole consideration hearing? Have I been living under a rock, because I am barely reading these things? What am I talking about? Well, first off, why does "Katie" Krenwinkel tell the presiding commissioner that she KNEW ahead of time that they were supposed to murder TWO WOMEN INSIDE THE HOUSE? Why didn't the presiding commissioner question her further about knowing ahead of time WHO they were to murder? Who gave them orders to kill the two women? Has this ever come up before? HUH? Here is the part of the transcript where she stated this:

"Because there was no doubt that I knew that what was ever going to happen here was not going to be good. I did know that that was, the plan was to murder two women inside the house. That was given, that was a given."

Here is the second thing that I noticed that sounds strange. What am I talking about? I am talking about Debra Tate telling the parole board in her statement that SHE was the first person interviewed by the police department, and by the FBI, because she was at the Cielo house all summer! Why would Debra Tate out of hundreds of people been the first person interviewed? Hell, I am not doubting her story, I just want to know WHY HER. I have NOTHING against Debra Tate, and I don't fancy bashing her on a blog, but I have to ask these things. Here is the part of the transcript where she stated this:

"My name is Debra Tate. I'm a sister to Sharon Tate, one of the victims. Something that most of the people don't know in this room is I was the first person interviewed by the police department and by the FBI, because I had spent all the summer prior at that house."

I have ONE MORE THING that I MUST bring up, or it will drive me nuts! If this was really true, I find it a weird, eerie, creepy coincidence. I also would like to add that IF this was really true, why wasn't it brought up at trial, or even in Helter Skelter by Mr. Bugliosi? What am I talking about? I am talking about Debra Tate telling the parole board that she MET the Manson Family BEFORE the murders! Here is the part of the transcript where she stated this:

" Just prior to me, us moving back to Palos Verdes, I was in Sausalito at the same time the Manson family was in the San Francisco area. I remember these people approaching me in the street of the Haight Ashbury, and they were people that I, even at the age of 16, passed on as being oddballs."

In closing, I am scratching my head in thought. You can find the full parole transcript at the fascinating, insightful, well-done site of cielodrive.com:

 http://cielodrive.com/patricia-krenwinkel-parole-hearing-2011.php

Occult-Part Two (Seven Degrees of Charlie Manson)

Interesting if you are into conspiracy theory. But all in all pretty interesting how they're able to connect all of these people together.

Credit to William Marshall

Sandy Good

Notice that she dosen't say Nancy's name? She just says gold is a family member...

 

 

Charles Manson-The Legion of Charlies 1971 Comix

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Charles-Manson-The-Legion-of-Charlies-1971-Comix-/221281343638?hash=item3385655896

Jon Aes-Nihil is the seller.  $20.00 starting bid on E-bay.  Funny the price on it from 1971 is 25cents. 

Four Faces of Charles Manson

The caption on this photo reads:  LOS ANGELES, Dec. 22 - THE MANY MOODS OF MANSON -   Charles Manson presented these faces Monday as he went to lunch after an outbreak in court that resulted in his ejection, along with three women co-defendants, from the Tate murder trail.  Defendant Leslie Van Houten, who started the outburst after Judge Charles Older refused to allow her to dismiss her new attorney, slugged and slapped bailiffs before she was removed. (AP Wirephoto)