Monday, September 17, 2012

Is Helter Skelter, Islam rising?


"The thought of justice as being Jesus Christ dying on the cross is nearing completion," said Catherine Share (Gypsy) 30 years ago.

"Islam is rising," said Sandra Good 30 years ago.

"When it comes down, when the balancing, the last WAR, the battle of Armageddon everyone will be fight'in over what they think is valuable," said Steve Grogan (Clem) 30 years ago.

"Everybody's ready, everybody's got their guns together. Most people do and everybody who doesn't, should," said Brenda McCann 30 years ago.

"And they know it's gonna happen, they know," said Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme 30 years ago.

But, what no one else understood then, was that the Manson Family was talking about September 11, 2001, the real beginning of "Helter Skelter."

So that you might understand now, we have to go back, over 30 years, to when Charles Manson was serving a ten year sentence for a bad check. It was the middle 1960's and the Vietnam War was becoming the mainstay for selling newspapers and punishing heathens.








12 comments:

ST. Circumstance said...

interesting idea. If we listen long enough to Charlie and look hard enough we can make most of his mumbo jumbo make sense though no?? how literal do we take him, and how liberal with the comparisons...

Is Obama Blackie rising up?
is global warming the result of the establishment killing his ATWA

he was a 35 year old man repeating alot of stuff he hard in alot places... Do we give Charlie credit for his prophecies or the guy in bunk 6 at Terminal Island he got the idea from first.

I don't know lol interesting point and idea though...

leary7 said...

Great post Matt. I read Marlin's book last week where I thing there was a mention of Manson supporters who truly believe he will be seen as a folk hero in 100 years.
I am dubious, but as Kimchi pointed out there certainly is an existing foundation of that type of thought.
Wouldn't it just be the Twilight Zone on acid if in 2120 Charlie Manson was seen in the same light as a Jesse James type folk hero for "telling the truth".
You know the old whack job truly believes that is his destiny. I know I have beat this to death, but I still think his funeral will be key. Charlie has to get himself one more memorable moment in the sun, so to speak. A wild Irish wake and funeral in the West Virginia hills with plenty of moonshine might do the trick.

Marlene Ful said...

They said they were going to wait on the corner for Charle to get out Did they....No...

Marlene Ful said...

They said they were going to wait on the corner for Charle to get out Did they....No...

candy and nuts said...

that scene is kinda sad someone in another blog was saying how the girls here didnt look like they even knew how to load these guns even when Red pulled that knife out in the same film MANSON~ you could see they didnt really have any expericne with using any weapons but was more talk then anything...

candy and nuts said...

ah I met someone online who told me to the effect that everything will be set right when "jesus is released from Corcoran".ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwtf

orwhut said...

The segment of the film with the guns and the girls saying their parts looked unnatural to me. Nancy kept looking away as though she was checking her notes. I've wondered whether it was that, or if she was just high.

candy and nuts said...

everyone can have their guns ready but if you cant load it right and know how to pull the trigger ......whats the use...

sherm maniac said...

The events this week made me think of Malcolm X and his quote "The chickens are coming home to roost." Then that made me think of how Malcolm X and the Nation were to a large degree responsible for the Helter Skelter idea, since Manson seemed to bang on about "the black Muslims" a bit. Spooky! Ooeeoo

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Ole J.C. said...

I think one of the most fascinating things is that two years after the convictions, Black Muslims DID rise up and started attacking whites.
Krishna Venta also preached a black and white race war. Venta's vision was the blacks would win but would have to hand power over to the Russians. They would hide in a secret cavern in a secret valley- all 144,000 of his chosen until they would emerge as the last whites. Manson may have taken a lot from the Black Muslims, but he also took a great deal from the Fountain of the World.

Ole J.C. said...

I think one of the most fascinating things is that two years after the convictions, Black Muslims DID rise up and started attacking whites.
Krishna Venta also preached a black and white race war. Venta's vision was the blacks would win but would have to hand power over to the Russians. They would hide in a secret cavern in a secret valley- all 144,000 of his chosen until they would emerge as the last whites. Manson may have taken a lot from the Black Muslims, but he also took a great deal from the Fountain of the World.