Showing posts with label the family. Show all posts
Showing posts with label the family. Show all posts

Monday, August 1, 2022

(You Are My) Sunshine Pearce

Howdy. I hope everything is groovy with you. At the time of this missive, we await the dropping of potentially big news in Mansonland. When you find out, you're gonna be like no freakin way but I'll just nod and smile like a sage. I might even shoot you a quick wink if no one is watching. 

We're also waiting to hear back from other people on other funny and not so funny things. But you know how that one goes. Everybody and their brother has secrets waiting on the other side of Gmail until they disappear back into the ether that spawned them. 

Never once do you receive the photos you craved when you first received this bag of curses btw. Ever.

Anyway, several posts are half done and I was struggling for a post over the weekend. In desperation, I turned to Didion.

Thankfully, Sir Buntline Heskey of Airportshire swooped in and saved everyone from a Greenwhite lecture about old people in prison with young people. Please thank him below. 

This post can also be considered part of the Trafficking series brought to you by a shadowy group known as The Scholars. If you're (like me) a fan of seeing the background puzzle pieces filled in, this quick workup is for you. 

Without further ado...

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(via Buntline. My comments will be in parenthesis when necessary.) 

Sorry but Sanders has led me down another rabbit hole. This time with Charles "Sunshine" Pierce.

"In the middle of April of 1969, a young Texan named Charles Pierce, aka Sunshine, was hanging out on the Sunset Strip when he met Ella Sinder, aka Yeller, and Sadie. Charles Pierce was a young man from Midland, Texas who had come to California in order to surf and hang out in the sun and just enjoy himself. Sadie and Ella persuaded Charles "Sunshine" Pierce to visit the Spahn Ranch, where Sunshine gave up everything — his money, his I.D. and his silver 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner, which Manson gladly received and used for a while, and then gave it away to Randy Starr."

Here is every time Sunshine is mentioned in Ed Sanders' The Family. (You can also read the book free of charge there if you wish.)

Long story short, Sunshine Pierce scampered back to Texas on June 4th, 1969, after Manson asked him to kill someone, most likely Terry Melcher.

Considering I have heard of Sunshine quite a bit, and have him on my list of family members, little about him exists online. And he often called Edward "Sunshine" Pierce. Thankfully, our pal Earl mentions a friend of Ella Jo Bailey...


I believe Sunshine is Charles Grant Pearce, born May 27, 1949, in Clarksville, Texas.

Here's Sunshine at Lee High School in Midland, Texas.


(Pearce was an Army Ranger in Vietnam. He died too early at fifty-three.) 

From Pearce's obit:

Grant was a talented musician and loved to sing and play the guitar, playing in several bands. He loved to fish and spend time with his family and friends. His outgoing, fun-loving personality made him a favorite of many. He will be greatly missed by all those who loved him.

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Three cheers for Sir Buntline. He's unrivaled in this thing right now. Looking ahead, Manson Blog has something from Starviego in the works, and I will be sure to hop in with any breaking, awesome news if anything jumps off. Until then, high five me. 

Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Dr. David Smith on the Family in the Berkeley Barb


Berkeley Barb Vol. 10 No. 2 Issue 231. Jan. 16-22, 1970 Page 3

LIFE WITH MANSON

Charles Manson and his "family" were in the Haight half a year after the Death of Hippie.

They left in the Spring of 1968 and moved south close to the scene of the murders with which they are charged.

A Haight clinic researcher, Alan Rose, followed them.

Rose lived for four months with the Manson family on the "Spahn Movie Ranch," where they spent a year operating a riding stable-- and doing various other things-- after leaving the Haight.

In an exclusive interview with Dr. David E. Smith, founder of the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic, BARB got some insights into the personality of the accused slayers of actress Sharon Tate and four others.

Dr. Smith told BARB Charlie and other members of the "Manson family"-- mostly young girls-- came to the clinic in April and May 1968 for "general medical things, not drug related problems or psychiatric counseling."

RARE DATA

But the rare "group marriage" sexual scene the Manson family was into attracted the clinical interest of Dr. Smith and Rose, then administrator of the clinic.

They were concerned with the health problems that crop up in different types of communal living, and the Manson family was one of the few they'd run across the practiced all-out sexual communism.

From that study and their experiences at the Clinic, came a scholarly paper on the group marriage commune to be published this spring in the Journal of Psychedelic Drugs.

WARNING

And coming as a by-product of their study is a warning to people who dig taking other people's trips: your friendly local guru just might be an incredibly persuasive schizophrenic with destructive paranoid delusions, and not a mystic at all.

BARB interviewed Dr. Smith Wednesday night for clarification of certain points brought out in the study report-- circulated in typescript-- and received permission to use some of the information it contains prior to its publication.

"He, (Charlie) was an extroverted, persuasive individual and served as an absolute ruler of this group marriage commune.  What he approved was approved by the rest of the group.  What he disapproved was forbidden," the report says.

NO BOOKS

The commune at this time consisted of about 20 core members, 14 of them women, plus several visiting "cousins."  Three had some college education, one even had a masters degree, but education was "indoctrination" to Manson, and one of his chief tasks was to undo the "brainwashing" society had done on his mainly middle-class charges.

Manson "felt that getting rid of sexual inhibitions would free people from most of their other inhibitions and problems," the report said.  "Most of the group had refuted the financial and material possession orientation of their families with relative ease.  The 'sexual orientation' was not that easy."

INITIATION

The researcher reported how Manson went about the process of reorientation:  (Charlie) set himself up as "initiator of new females" into the commune.  He would spend most of their first day making love to them, as he wanted to see if they were just on a "sex trip", or whether they were seriously interested in joining the family.

He would spend a great deal of time talking with them finding out, as he put it, "where their heads were at."  An unwillingness, for example, to engage in mutual oral-genital contact was cause for immediate expulsion, for he felt that this was one of the most important indications as to whether or not the girl would be willing to give up her sexual inhibitions.

DISCIPLINE

The study touches on methods of disciplining family members and prospects who did not shape up.  These included refusal to have sex with anyone who was not changing fast enough, and as a sterner measure, a "long talk" technique.

"This form would involve two or three partners in the commune approaching the individual in question and asking "Why are you here? What do you want from us? If we asked you to hitchhike to New York and stay there for awhile, would you do it?

"If the answer to the last question was yes, and the individual still did not go, he would usually be asked to leave and stay away until he went through sufficient "changes."

THE REJECTS

People usually left "involuntarily" at the insistence of the family..."

Those that stayed found the struggle for food-- which they termed an "adventure"-- to be one of the main preoccupations of the daily round.  They would rummage through grocery store garbage bins during food forays to town.

Other than that, bread came in the form of contributions from new members or gifts of money, food, and clothing from more affluent "cousins."

The group stayed in condemned ranch buildings in return for managing the stable of riding horses, the ranch's sole source of income.

KID CULT

The group wasn't into eastern religion or drugs, but the simple daily round of work, lovemaking, casual dope-sacramental use of smoking, and scrounging tied in with Manson's thing about children, the report indicated. There were several kids on the commune.

"The child was always the center of attraction and went everywhere the group did.  The child was viewed as the one to emulate and follow as he was considered untainted by society.

(Manson) used the words of Jesus: "he who is like the small child shall reap rewards of heaven,' to  guide their family and child rearing philosophy," the report stated.

INTERVIEW

Primarily concerned with health issues, the report did not devote extensive attention to the other problems raised by this and similar communal arrangements.  So BARB sought and received a few additional insights from Dr. Smith.

Dr. Smith said, "The problem was that Charlie was disturbed.  He developed a paranoid delusional system that led to violence, it wasn't a drug thing.

"When we studied them there was no violence, but there is a fairly fine line between mysticism and schizophrenia.  Every commune we studied that has survived has had a spiritual leader that has nothing but positive visions this wouldn't happen.

GOD'S WORD

"Charlie had a lot of good things about him, he said a lot of mystical things that appealed to the girls, but he also had a lot of serious problems in the area of paranoid delusions, and everything he said was God's word to the girls.

"If you totally accept someone you lose your ability to discriminate between the good things and the bad things.  If you know schizophrenics, you know how persuasive they can get, and if you are an adolescent in turmoil who is searching for a guru, you can be easily convinced."

Dr. Smith continued:  "This is one of the things that worries us at the clinic.  People can't surrender all individual control to higher authority, they still have to be able to think for themselves."

WHAT'S REALISM?

"...I think there are certain things anyone should be aware of. like what kind of grasp on reality the leader has, how he apprehends reality, but the girls always say 'What is reality'"

"What Charlie did, the main thing, was the sex thing and the infant consciousness.  They put a tremendous emphasis on that, saying the ideal is the infant.  What they are really saying is any socialization is bad and the individual should reject it.

"Then what he did was substitute his own philosophy.

CRUCIAL TEST

"The crucial thing to look for is how in touch with reality the leader is, and, secondly, whether his vision runs counter to what you intuitively know is destructive.  If people would think in terms of what is constructive and what is destructive behavior, not what is conventional or not...

"So many groups don't develop an individual ethic, just a group ethic, and they aren't much better off than if they stuck with the straight society they are rejecting.  They just go from one group ethic to another group ethic...

HIP MAGNET

"Unfortunately, a very large number of guys like Charlie are running around.  They seem to be attracted to the hip subculture with its freedom and acceptance.  Fortunately, not many of them are as persuasive as Charlie, and they don't end up in positions of power...

"There are a lot of people like that, and many of them are in mental hospitals.  Any individual who has an all-encompassing delusional system that has all the answers is very persuasive to an adolescent who is searching for a substitute father figure."

BARB asked if the girls in Manson's family were any different in any way.

GIRL PROBLEM

"No, that's the dangerous thing, there are hundreds of thousands of adolescent girls in turmoil that are looking for answers, and if they get hooked up with a guy like that, they are in trouble.  They must analyze their behavior to determine what is constructive and what is destructive.  I'm concerned with the great deal of group conformity that exists in the hip movement," said the 30-year old doctor.  "It's suppose to be the antithesis of conformity."

"I think communes can be a very positive and meaningful way of life but only if the participants in the movement think for themselves," he concluded.







Friday, April 22, 2011

movies,movies,movies ~~ 5 of them

PRETTY FACE
Flea from The Red Hot Chili Peppers as Charlie in Pretty face

 I noticed on their website two familiar names starring in the movie-Val Kilmer and Lea Thompson.
The site is not 100% finished.   Yet there is a trailer and shots of premier posters.

 Synopsis
In the summer of 1969, Jenna, a rebellious fifteen-year old girl, abandoned by her deadbeat single mom, steals a horse from her best friend's family and runs away from their loving arms.
Her naive and very square best friend follows her on another horse and the two girls stumble across the Manson family living in an abandoned movie ranch.
Jenna, a street-smart budding singer-songwriter, is not fooled by their talk of peace, love and living free, but her sweet and innocent friend is gradually seduced by their siren call. The situation gets dangerous, but Jenna stands her ground against the infamous Charlie, Bobby and Tex and is forced to make a great and heroic personal sacrifice to save her friend from a horrific night with the wanton members of "the family."

Pretty face lives halfway between fact and fiction, blending factual details about the day-to-day existence of the Manson family in the weeks leading up to the infamous murders with the fictional coming of age story of a damaged, crass, but ultimately loving, teenage heroine.

Writer and Director-Jessica Jano
Producer- Fred Roos
Story from

http://www.stadium-arcadium.com/forum/viewtopic.php


EYES OF A DREAMER

Lindsay Lohan rumored to play Sharon Tate

Tyler Shields is producing as well as playing Charlie


Marilyn Manson  t/n  Brian Warner is rumored to be playing Tex
There is not much info about this movie, just rumors.  The only description I can find is,the movie follows the Manson Family through their trail of carnage.
Tyler Shields is producing as well as starring as Charlie.  I think he wrote it as well.  Shields is a celebrity photographer and a good friend of Lindsay Lohan.  According to gossip, shooting will start July 15, 2010. 
But-  Linsay Lohan has court at the end of this month.  There is the potential she might have to serve some prison time for her habitual kleptomania.  If that happens, she will be replaced.   Marilyn Manson is rumored to be playing Tex. 


THE MANSON GIRLS


Quote from Susanna Lo

 "I decided I wanted to tell the story of eight of the girls, from their teenage years through to the minute before the Tate/LaBianca murders. Manson Girls is a movie about how neglect, rejection and abuse can transcend into hopelessness, despondence and ultimately, violence.  Just to be clear, this is not a story about Charles Manson.  It is the story of eight of the girls, told from their prospective, before the Tate/LaBianca murders take place.  And I never show Charlie Manson's face in the film."

Update on Manson Girls- I spoke to Susanna again a few days ago.  They are currently shooting in L.A. and Puerto Rico.  I mentioned some rumors going around that her movie would not be made.  She assured me it is being made as we speak.

http://www.mansongirlsmovie.com/


THE FAMILY

Scott Kosar to write and direct "The Family."

Ryan Kwanten as Charlie
(yummy!  works for Patty and I.)
"I will be making my directorial debut from a script I wrote," Kosar told STYD.  "The movie won't focus on the Manson murders.  Nor is it a Manson biopic.  It's a family biopic.  A movie about a surrogate family of wayward teenagers who, through extraordinary circumstances, came together and were transformed into the most notorious American family of the 20th century.  Hence the title"
He continued: "it is not a horror film, though the subject is inherently horrific.  The goal is to do, finally,after forty years, the first authentic film about the so-called Manson Family.  Unlike other films on the subject, 'The Family' will also spend time getting to know the victims, particularly Sharon Tate, who will be portrayed very sympathetically.  This won't be a slasher film, but it won't gloss over the violence either.  My film will concern the family itself.  Who they were and what their lives were like with Manson."

Read more at:   http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=19527#ixzz1KDRNZWOh

The Dead Circus

James Marsden as Charlie
The film will take on the case of singer Bobby Fuller, (I fought the law) whose death, though ruled a suicide,raised suspicion of foul play and potentially murder.  The script, which is yet to be written, will focus on the allegations that Manson and his family were behind the murder.  Michael C. Hall will pay one of Fullers managers, while Melissa Leo takes on the role of a former Manson family member.
Read more:    http://icydk.com/2011/04/05/james-marsden-to-play-charles-manson-in-the-dead-circus/




WE HAD A SIMILAR POST UP EARLIER.
SOMETHING HAPPENED AND IT WENT
POOF!  THIS IS THE NEW POST. THOUGH
NOT  AS LOVELY AS THE ORIGINAL ONE
WHICH MATT WORKED  SO LOVINGLY,
EDITING AND TWEAKING.
 IT WILL HAVE TO DO I GUESS.