Showing posts with label manson movies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label manson movies. Show all posts

Monday, March 7, 2022

James VanBebber's Manson Family

James VanBebber's Manson Family is not for the squeamish. Consider that your trigger warning. 

Roger Ebert titled his review, "Disgusting but undeniably powerful." I don't know how to say it better. This film is gory art. I expected to watch ninety minutes of nonsense, make a few screen caps, type a bit of gallows humor, and move on. I could not have been more mistaken. 

Patti Smith lyrics rushed through my mind during the parts of this movie my eyes refused to watch. 

"I'm an American artist and I have no guilt. I seek pleasure. I seek the nerves under your skin." 

You will find the film online in two seconds. I tried to buy a copy on Amazon but was unsuccessful. Van Bebber began the project in 1988. Ebert's review was published in 2004. 

Links to a few VanBebber interviews are located below my screen caps. His great sense of humor comes through in his work. Severin Films released a DVD/Blu Ray combo in 2003. I've also included a few pages from a book on the film. 







Let's go to the screen caps. First up, Brenda McCann. VanBebber plays Bobby and maybe steals his own show. Maureen Allisse as Sadie also maybe steals the show. The cast definitely works. I could list most of them as show stealers. 


Let's Go George!


Clem and Bruce are combined into Clem Davis lol.  


Leave. Something. Witchy. Marcelo Games is a memorable Charlie. 


VanBebber takes Hendrickson, Helter Skelter, and other well-known interviews with the inmates, etc, runs it through a Pettibon Book of Manson filter, and adds an Olympic-size swimming pool amount of blood to his exploration of young people and their continuing infatuation with Charles Manson. The result is pop culture at its darkest. 

Film club, tell me what you think. 

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VanBebber interviews:

dvdtalk.com

Decibel Magazine part one and part two.

birthmoviesdeath.com


* Thanks to my homie, Al, for the page photos. Secret agent Deb also helped with this post. I'm grateful to both of them. Jimmy VB, if you Google yourself and end up here, that's me in your inbox begging for an interview.  

** We have a couple of new writers joining the blog and experienced a little mixup over who was posting today. I was holding this post back for Friday but hopped in when I discovered the confusion. Real writers will be back with actual research next Monday, although I might return first this Friday with more of my nonsense. 

I'm your kind. I'm your brother. 

And I claim weekends as my own. +ggw

Friday, February 18, 2022

Helter Skelter Ranked #4 - Weekend Pop Culture










Earlier this week, movieweb.com placed Helter Skelter (1976) at #4 on a list of top made-for-tv movies. What they call a movie was a miniseries but whatever. Steve Railsback typically gets all the pub in this one but Nancy Wolfe as Sexy Sadie steals the show whenever she's onscreen. Wolfe is riffing on Lynette Fromme's lines from Hendrickson in the above screen capture. Squeaky did it better but Nancy is no slouch. 

Anyone not super jaded and full of angry know everything is invited to join my watch party group if you are interested in studying the Manson milieu in pop culture. Manson scene politics are prohibited there. So is guru-ing. 

FYI, my blog email is unreliable. Don't waste your time until I figure it out. Apologies if you emailed me and I never replied. Happy Friday. +ggw 

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Helter Skelter (1976) on Youtube

1976 version of Helter Skelter Wikipedia page.

IMDB page with full cast (1976). 

Sadie via the Almighty



Sunday, December 19, 2021

Book of Manson (1989) Film


The Book Of Manson was released in 1989. The film is available to watch on Youtube but is broken into five sections. Part one is missing. I'd buy a copy if mine were the bank accounts of a university and not a dumb writer but life is what it is and I'll likely die without knowing what happens in part one. 

"The loose plot and bad production make it difficult to watch but it's very rewarding if you can stay on the ride." 

A reviewer named Ruiz wrote that about BoM seven years ago. You won't find many reviews online and Ruiz was succinct. 

Book of Manson is mucho irreverent in spades. Filmmaker Raymond Pettibon has the comedic timing of Roman Polanski. More than once, the thought crossed my mind that I was watching a Polanski treatment of the Manson family. Take that however you like. I went into the Polanski catalog expecting to confirm my dislike for the director but walked away with respect for his films. Not that I'd advise you to send your seventh grader to a pool party at his place. 

Pettibon is also the writer for BoM. His film is huge on dialogue and much of it is solid gold. A nuanced, punk rock, 80's, Manson family? The Marx Brothers crossed my mind several times but only if they were from the dark side or something Idk. 

You've heard for years that a California record label was set to release an album of Charles Manson's music in the 1980's but backed out after receiving threats. Filmmaker Pettibon's brother, Greg Ginn, is the owner of that label. I started asking around about the threats hoping someone would say, "Four huge guys in sweatsuits eating gabagool hopped out of a black Cadillac yelling, 'Bada bing we're the Mafia! Big Tony says no record, capeesh?"  

And if not the mob then who? Phil Kaufman? Doris Day? How would the public even know? The threats were confirmed but downplayed. "Nothing as serious as you might be thinking." 

Got it. Joke threats. So funny you don't put the record out. And don't think I would've either. I was terrified of Charles Manson in the 80's. Everyone "into" him was talking about the Process Church and not  ATWA down at the home place. 

Anyway. A couple of years after threats killed the record, Pettibon made BoM. Gutsy to say the least. 

The scene at Bobby's might be my favorite. Again nuance. Again irreverence. Janet Housden plays Mary Brunner. Gary asks Bobby, Sadie, and Mary if Charlie sent them. Bobby doesn't like Mary's affirmation, flexes on her, and announces he's running things. 


How many Gary arguments have taken place on this blog? Was it the Satans' money or an inheritance? Why did Mary tell Guenther and Whiteley they were after three grand?  


Here's my six degrees. I was pestering Henry Rollins with letters in 1991 while Joe Cole helped with his mail. Thirty years ago today, Cole was murdered by muggers in front of the house he shared with Rollins in the Oakwood neighborhood of Venice Beach, California. Rollins escaped by dodging bullets. 

This is Henry talking about Cole's killing. Rollins was the record label's point man with Manson. Joe Cole also worked at SST Records. I was over the moon when Cole's response showed up at my PO Box, and his awful death shook me. Even after they handed over fifty bucks, Cole was shot in the face at point blank range. 

Senseless, cruel, and sad. Joe Cole has been dead for almost as long as he lived. I won't ever understand why his death was necessary and wanted to drop a quick shoutout here today in remembrance. Some of you might remember Cole's killing and others will not. I don't drink anymore but if I did, I'd pour a little out for Joe. 

Robert Hecker's scenes as Charlie are magic imo. I went stalking him online and almost fell out of my chair so great was my haste to email blog reader Tobias Rabe. Hurdles! 

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Here's an associated Cease to Exist cover from back then. Same scene. Housden plays drums on the bonus tracks of the 1986 re-release. Calling the 80's "back then" is like whoa kinda. My sweet Gen X is starting to get old. If you watch BoM, please tell me what you think. +ggw

Monday, March 18, 2019

Movie: Charlie Says

Opening in theaters May 10 and VOD May 17

Charlie Says is a 2018 drama film directed by Mary Harron and starring Matt Smith as infamous killer Charles Manson.

It had its world premiere at the Venice Film Festival on September 2, 2018. It is scheduled to be released on May 10, 2019, by IFC Films.



Thanks to Amy for the tip...

Thursday, July 21, 2016

Movie News



There was a recent New York Times article about various Manson/TLB related productions that are about to be shown, in production or shelved.

In a nutshell, the new season of Aquarius is set to start June 16th picking up from last season the series will begin with January 1968.

The two projects that have been shelved are a Fox series from Brett Easton Ellis and Rob Zombie and Jay Sebring biopic starring James Franco.  Seems to me that there have been other attempts for a Jay Sebring production, none of which have gotten off the ground.  I'm not sure why, Jay Sebring would be a worthy subject for a film.  His life was so much more than that of a murder victim.

The article talks a bit about some of the more recent movies that have been released writer/director J. Davis's Manson Family Vacation, Lifetime networks Manson's Lost Girls and even Katrina Longworth's podcast Charles Manson's Hollywood which Matt posted for us a while back.

Surprise, Suzanna Lo's endeavor, Manson Girls, is suffering from financial setbacks so shooting has been delayed.  How many times have we heard that!  Panamint Patty did a series of posts on one of  our readers who got burned by Suzanna Lo and her pleas for financial assistance.

There is also a film in pre-production based on Ed Sander's The Family and Karlene Faith's The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten.  Yes, both books are to figure in the same film.  I checked IMDb on this one and there is not much there except that the film is due out in 2017.

What ever the reason there is a lot going on in the way of Manson movies.  Is Hollywood gearing up for the 50th anniversary of the murders?  Is all of this necessary?  Does it glorify the convicted more than it respects the victims?  It seems like many of these productions sacrifice accuracy for sensation and that is never a good thing because it rewrites history.





Tuesday, July 5, 2016

House of Manson


"Some people ask why people would go into a dark room to be scared. I say they are already scared, and they need to have that fear manipulated and massaged. I think of horror movies as the disturbed dreams of a society"

                         - Wes Craven

Deb, who always is one step ahead, had done a post on this film back when they were casting for this project. It has come to my attention that the project has been completed and shown across the pond, as well as made the festival circuit rounds ( where it won awards at over half a dozen including; Snowdance, Canada International Film Festival, North Hollywood Film Fest, Twin City Film Festival, The California Film Awards, International Euro Film Festival) . With Deb's Blessing, I can now report that Gravitas Ventures will be releasing "House of Manson" in the US onto digital platforms and physical media on August 5, 2016.  What that means exactly- I am still not sure lol. But, I am working on it....

Directed by Brandon Slagle, the Film:

" Follows the life of Charles Manson from childhood to his arrest at Barker Ranch following his involvement in the deaths at the Tate and Labainca residences ( among others) during the summer of 1969 which ultimately led to his trial and sentencing. "

Actually, the movie starts with the raid at barker and then backtracks from the start. Early word is that the cast does a pretty good job . Here is a quick look at a few of the players:

 Ryan Kiser stars as Charles Manson ( He played Charlie previously in a 2009 Short I never saw called "Lie")




Devanny Pinn is Susan Atkins


                                                  (OK, No- It didn't have to be a bikini shot)


Sorry... lol anyway, here are a couple more of Devanny:

                                      

Reid Warner is Tex Watson:




Trish Cook will play Kathleen Maddox:




Suzi Lorraine Is Sharon Tate:



The cast also includes a host of other names you probably wont know such as Serena Lorien, Erin Marie Hogan, Britt Griffith, Chriss Anglin, Julie Rose, and Maxine Wasa. This film was originally released in the UK under the shortened title "Manson". Below is a video URL for the full trailer for your viewing pleasure.

                                                    https://youtu.be/Z3pbuWut0fk

As far as early reviews- a few are in. Now, these aren't exactly Rolling Stone level publications lol But, this is what I could find. There were several themes among the reviews. The look of the cast and the job done by the actors playing Charlie and Susan were mentioned repeatedly. Here are some excerpts...

Dread Central: "Informative, Shocking, Violent, saddening, -Slagle should be applauded for taking on a subject that has been beaten to death and giving it a totally new perspective from the audiences point of view."

Shock till you Drop: "It would be easy to think a film about Charles Manson and his followers would be the perfect opportunity to cannonball into the deep end of the exploitation swimming pool. Yet Branden Slagles', as of yet unreleased in the US, House of Manson chooses to heat up the sauna instead. This isn't a party. Its a slow burn."

"Ryan Kiser delivers a powerful performance as Manson. He manages to carry the larger than life persona of Manson with ease. He never lets it become the cartoon it could easily be. This isn't the insane, wacky, creepy Charlie we have seen behind bars and in interviews for decades. The Manson Kiser brings to the screen is less creepy and more controlled than many portraits that have come before.
 
Starburst:  " Won't offer and new insights or conclusions, but it does produce a different slant on a character whose infamy shows no sign of abating. Slagle's film is of interest though. Built on excellent performances and subtle, almost documentary like direction that draws the viewer in."

Flix Chatter- (3.5/5 stars) "Kiser approached the character (Manson) in a very serious tone and does a fantastic job of  conveying the crazy, yet brilliant way Charles Manson was able to draw followers into his cult. Devanny Pinn co-stars as one of Manson's co-followers Susan Atkins and gives a chilling performance as her screen presence is freaky. Pinn truly becomes Atkins onscreen, as the facial reactions make you think this woman is completely off her rocker. An overall amazing performance by Pinn."

Horror Movies CA ( 5/5 stars): " Kiser just may be the best portrayal of Charles Manson I have ever seen, as I said its a scary thought, but that just goes to show Kiser's acting ability in bringing this devious character to life, and it appears everyone has his chemistry about them as they all deliver. But of all the family members Devanny Pinn delivers this wickedly sadistic portrayal of Susan Atkins. Everything from her smile to her laugh, she brings a whole eeriness to the proceedings as none of her heinous actions seems to have any moral implications to her and Devanny just delivers.

"Its paced well, it captures the essence of the time periods. The violence is horrifically convincing., and the characters just shine through. If you want to see a film about Charles Manson without glorifying his actions, House of Manson is a film you need and I urge you to keep your eyes peeled for this one. Its brooding, dark, and absolutely fascinating."

CineKatz:  "The attention to detail is outstanding and aside from moments that have too much shaky camera work and sound designs of a modern horror film, this one stays true to the look you would see in a movie made in the late 60's or 70's. I don't know what type of film stock was used, but kudos to their cinematographer for getting that aspect correctly. Not only was Slagle good at getting the look of the film down, the casting was dead on too. ( no pun intended)"

"Ryan Kiser is amazing as Charles Manson. He plays him as a real person and not some crazy guy spouting wild shit. Seeing him portrayed this way makes him a bit more scary as you can see just how charming and manipulative he was. Devanny Pinn has some pretty chilling moments that make her seem more lost from reality than to the leader himself." 

Children of Samhain: "The film is told from the perspective of a fly on the wall, and therefor is neither a direct condemnation nor glorification of the man who orchestrated the murder of no less than seven people including a pregnant Sharon Tate. Instead the movie allows the viewer to be seduced by his charms, before being thrown head first into the sheer brutality of his madness."

" If there was ever an award given for casting in Indie films, it would have to go to Alexis Lacono, because not only is every single actor in this film immensely talented, but seemingly everyone is a dead ringer for their real life counterpart. Its truly remarkable. The members of the Manson Family are absolutely amazing".






Here is a bit of what IMDb says:

"Kisers performance has gained accolades for his fresh take on the character, portraying him not as the ranting caricature often seen in low budget film adaptations of the story, but as a flawed, human individual who also happens to be responsible for some of the most heinous acts in US history. Also garnering accolades is Devanny Pinn's ( The Black Dahlia Haunting) chilling portrayal of Susan Atkins who has since died in prison of a brain tumor."


Like I said, not exactly cutting edge sources, but you get the general idea of what people are saying so far. The word of mouth is pretty good. I will have my fingers crossed. I always do. I have seen some really good stuff on this subject ( Robert Hendrickson Manson Documentaries, Manson Family Vacation, Marcy Mary May Marlene) and I have seen some Garbage (Leslie- My Name is Evil, Helter Skelter, any/all TV movies and Documentaries not made by Robert Hendrickson) Based on what I have read and the trailer I have watched- House of Manson shows some promise as far as something new and interesting to watch on the subject.


Its amazing how much new stuff still comes out about the subject. New Books, TV specials, Movies, and even websites lol still pop up consistently after all of these years. Of all the crimes which happened in my adult lifetime- nothing has captured the imagination like this case did for so many with the possible exception of OJ. When I was a kid growing up in NJ a bunch of kids in Long Island New York went in to woods on acid and angel dust and had a satanic ritual and murdered some poor kid. It was savage beating and murder. It involved drugs, hippies and music. It was the biggest news in the world to our area... for about three weeks.

Why is it that Manson and OJ stay with us when others crimes have come and gone which were more vicious and involved more deaths? Scarier people, who have done worse things, and we seem to have chosen these two as the ones to hold on to over the years. I have some ideas as to why:

Location, Location, Location:  Hollywood, Brentwood. An area of wealth and fame that most people are naturally curious about. When the darkness creeps into the brightest of spots we have in our society that makes it extra spooky.

Victims: Beautiful people. In particular Sharon/Nicole-  Beautiful Blonde women getting killed in their own homes, in exclusive neighborhoods, and in savage fashion. Like a car wreck- its hard to turn away.

Villains: Charlie/OJ. Out sized personalities. Two guys who you couldn't keep your eyes off. OJ for his fame and familiarity, and Charlie for his Charisma and Unpredictability.

St. Circumstances of Crimes: Both were so surreal. OJ and the Bronco chase. The Family with the blood writing on the walls- in both cases- the vicious nature of the stabbings. The absolute savage gore at the scenes. Watching the entire cases play out so publicly from the finding of the bodies up through the  verdict at the trials. Water cooler chat for weeks and months on end.

Trial: Two of the most fascinating, and lengthy, trials we had ever seen. in both trials, the cast of characters and lawyers involved only added fuel to the fire. Imagine Charlie with the Dream Team? if the details of the cases themselves weren't interesting enough on their own- both trials lasted months and each day gave fresh new stories and people to be dissected and broken down. From Caito and Faye Resnick and the private sex/drug lives of OJ's group of jet-setting friends, to Brooks Posten testifying he thought Charlie was Christ, and the girls on the corner wearing X's and shaving there heads- you were mesmerized in both cases by the peripheral people in the case and their stories. Attorneys like Schrek and Cochran to Kanarek and Bugliosi. Huge egos and personalities at every turn.

At the end of the day, I don't know really what makes these two cases different. Above is just a few ideas as to why this case seems to stick with us so passionately. what I do know is that the interest doesn't appear to be going anywhere. As long as they keep making new movies, books, TV specials- I will keep checking them out. As always, I will hope for the best. I am not sure what I am really looking for anymore anyway from films like this. Something interesting I guess will suffice. I am not expecting to learn, nor do I expect any of these shows/movies to give me answers to the real questions I have about TLB...

I am waiting for Robert Hendrickson's next project to do that  ;)


Well, that is about it until I watch the Movie myself. Then I can tell you more. In the meantime, let me leave you with what most of you really want. Another bikini pic of Devanny Pinn...





                                                         - Your Favorite Saint


UPDATE:  I was able to watch the first 30 minutes, or so, online before the virus warnings started lol. I hope it didn't cost me a laptop, but I guess we will see. I made it to the point where Charlie seems to be about to find out that he was NOT going to be a music star. It is pretty easy to tell that this is where things were about to change. Up till the point I saw there was very little talk about violence and just a few mentions of  "The Armageddon. They were laying some of the groundwork slowly for the ideas of where Race War might come from, but nothing specific yet. Despite what I read in the reviews, the Susan character hadn't really had much of an impact as of yet. The LULU character was way over acting. That was the first character where I felt it was being way overplayed. The Tex character was ok so far, and there was a decent scene where Charlie has the "Will you Die For Me" conversation with Tex. Those kids of scenes were the first where Charlie starts to show any real sings of menace. The Charlie Character is, so far, just what they said in the reviews-. understated and mellow. A very likeable guy in most regards up to this point. There is a scene between him and his mother when she tells him that Rosalie is gone where you almost feel sorry for him. Kiser has done alright so far. There is another scene where they play the Manson song "Sick City" and it is actually Kiser signing. This was, to me, was the most impressive thing I saw or listened to so far. I think most will agree that he nails Charlies voice if nothing else. Spahn Ranch scenes are realistic and good. The Story is not accurate and they get several of the facts wrong. The filming is decent, but you can tell its an indie budget. Also they play some modern music in the background of a couple of scenes, which I didn't like. You can tell for certain that they are going to use the Music Business as, at least, the reason things started to get dark, but they sort of hinted that H/S was going to become a factor as well, although through the first half hour there was no real mention of it.The beginning is pretty much Charlies trip from poor runaway to becoming immersed in a lifestyle of peace and love. They do show one interesting scene from Charlie's youth where a decent relative gives him some advice that he seems to repeat throughout his life.  So far, on balance, it is a semi- entertaining version of the events leading up the time just prior to the violence starting with decent performances. It is not totally satisfying though as the facts are off, and there is not much new so far. It wasn't too badly acted, or overacted ( Except LULU Character)- but that would probably be coming next as things start to get more serious around them. I can tell you two things for sure. It was interesting enough to warrant me watching the rest, but I don't think this is movie that is going to be very popular in the TLB community. Not accurate enough, and a little too cheesy. on a scale of 1 to 10 Coors-lights I give the first portion  3 1/2 beers so far. Now, with all the serious business coming up- I expect that this can go either way. I can still see this becoming really silly and cheesy, or if Susan's character starts to exert itself like I read- and Charlie and Tex characters are as good when it gets tense as they were at playing it cool- it could work its way up to a 6-pack maybe. I cant see this being a very good or great movie though. However, I still have more than half way to go so,

We will see.....





Thursday, March 3, 2016

Casting Call: My Manson Movie



"I have often thought it was very arrogant to suppose you could  make a film for anybody but yourself."
- Peter Greenaway 
If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. Henry David Thoreau
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If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. Henry David Thoreau
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/topic_dreams.html

"The most honest form of filmmaking is to make a film for yourself"
 - Peter Jackson

Imagine trying to make a Manson Family Movie. My Manson Family Movie. Just the sound of it gives me the chills. What an overwhelming thought at first. Impossible right? Of course, the budget would be the biggest obstacle. Yes, this is true. But, there could potentially be ways around that for the right motivated person. Some people make their own breaks in life with the right effort. What if I were to create a film at a reasonable cost, partially by raising private money, and then try to spur a grass roots movement which could create a momentum of its own through; a strong internet presence, word of mouth, and a few guerrilla marketing techniques? 

Does that sound silly? 

Maybe, but it did work for The Blair Witch Project whose creators were a few hours from where I live now in Florida, and also the movie Clerks- which was made about 45 minutes from where I grew up in New Jersey. Naturally, I started looking at those two films for inspiration first.

This was the thought process when making The Blair Witch Project:

"The Blair Witch Project was developed during 1993 by the filmmakers. Myrick and Sanchez came across the idea for the film after realizing that they found Documentaries on paranormal phenomenon scarier than traditional horror films, thus the two decided to create a film that combined the styles" 

Sort of what I was thinking of for My Manson Movie. A movie about the making of a Documentary blended in with flashback sequences where actors accurately play out recreations of the back-stories of the characters involved in the Documentary being filmed. I bet it could work with great writing, and an organized process. The Blair Witch Project was shot in 8 days. It cost between 500 and 750K by most real estimates, although the filmmakers say it was less. It grossed almost 250 Million world wide. The Blair Witch Project is thought to be the first widely released movie marketed primarily by internet. It was well written and extremely well marketed. At a very reasonable cost.

Even smaller scale was Clerks. Kevin Smith made Clerks with one camera, about 75 feet of cable, and almost the entire cost of production went on credit cards. It cost less than 30K to make and did 3 million in box office alone, despite the fact it never showed on more than 50 screens at one time. It became a cult classic on video, and it is one of the most cleverly written movies you will ever see. Go check out the scene where Dante and his girlfriend get into the argument over how many people she had sex with and gave blowjobs to. You will watch that exchange a thousand times, and I laugh like it was the first time you have seen it every time. Great writing can do that.

Remember, we also have recent, subject-related, history to look at as well. I did a review on The Manson Family Vacation movie not too long ago. It is holding steady with a just under 7 rating at Rotten Tomato. They made that movie with very little money and raised some of it on Kick-Starter. 

"284 backers pledged $40,607 to help bring this project to life." (From the Manson Family Vacation Kick-starter page)

How much could the total production costs have been if 40K made a difference in getting this movie made? And they were able to sell it and get it out there.... 

So although I have no real personal experience with anything like this, I have watched a few movies over the years made by those who have been very successful doing it. I know it can been done, because it has been done, and to me that counts for something. I mean, how hard can it be right? It would be almost impossible not to make a better movie about Manson than the garbage they keep putting out over and over.  All the attention this subject gets, what if it started going around various medias, and social networking sights, that there was a "Must-See" out there on the Manson Family story? I think that a very good, honest, and effectively spooky movie, about Manson could be made profitably without having the resources of a major studio or production Company. 

Maybe its worth a try?

My Manson Movie would be based somewhat on the Robert Hendrickson Documentary. It would revolve around The Family AFTER the crimes, so we can see the other players more in focus and learn of all the parallel story-lines going on internally, within The Family, while the killers were in jail. I would recreate several of the memorable scenes as closely as possible to give a true feeling to my audience of what life was really like at the ranches. Both before the crimes, in flashback sequences, and real time.  Demonstrating, through factual recreations, situations which raise questions about why the TLB crimes occurred and sorting out the aftermath would be more the focus than actually trying to re-create the TLB crimes. I have a vision for how to make this come out as realistically as possible. I believe I have a way to tell the story that asks more questions than it tries to give answers. Plus, with accurate information, thoughtful performances, and a fantastic soundtrack. I would mix in original music from Manson, Watkins/Posten and the Family Jams with vintage selections from the time and era. Of course, tossing in a couple of songs from the Beach Boys and Beatles coinciding with certain scenes. Even more fun than picking the music, I would get to give myself a part!  

My Manson Movie would also draw heavily from Restless Souls. I would plan to spend a good deal of time exploring the tragedy from the victims side as well. Putting a larger emphasis on the Tate's also allows me to draw a little attention to my one small part, but we will get to that later. In every movie I ever saw, the more you cared about the characters- the more you believed in, and cared about, the story. I would want to give my audience an authentic story delivered by characters they have had a chance to develop some personal investment in. That, to me, is crucial. Authenticity. The actors in My Manson Movie  not only have to play the part, they will have to live it. And, more important, they should look it as much as possible. Exceptions could be made for having some previous acting experience relevant to the character they shall play, but some similarity in look is essential.

That brings me to the next step. To get an idea of "The Look" of my cast in place, I put together initial notes for myself about who, or what, the ideal cast would look like. I realize there are plenty of issues with some of the choices. But understand, these choices were made for a variety of reasons. none of these people are actually going to be in My Manson Movie. Except me lol  I picked some for uncanny resemblances. I picked others because I have seen them in specific, similar  roles that made me feel they would be great as certain specific characters. More than any of that though, I am trying to form my artistic vision of how I want to represent the characters, and what it would take to bring them to life.  I am aware that the choices I made below will not work out for a variety of practical reasons. I can build around the realities later. But again, this is just an initial "wish -list". I am really just thinking aloud about what the perfect look or previous experience would be for my characters. As each of them has to bring either a look, or certain experience to their parts. One other thing that will become very obvious. My Manson Movie casting ideas are heavily influenced by my lifetime of watching Movies and TV. A sort of "Tribute" to some of my favorite performers. But, as this is My Manson Movie, I decided to trust my own visual, and viewing experiences putting together this group. So, having gotten that out of the way, the initial casting ideas for My Manson Movie looks like this:

The Family



As Charlie I chose John Hawkes. This dude can seriously act. You have seen him in many movies from The Perfect Storm to the more recent Everest. I picked him specifically though for his role as the cult leader in Martha Marcy May Marlene. He nailed it. He has not only the right look for the part, but I have seen his acting chops in a similar role. Charlie would be hard to pull off for anyone, but this guy could do as good of a job as anyone I have ever seen. Check out his character "Teardrop" in the movie Winter's Bone. He plays the character Charlie might have become if he never made it out of the area he grew up.




Picking Charlies right hand man Bruce Davis was one of the easiest choices of the entire casting:

Playing the role of Bruce Davis will be Liev Schreiber. Notice the identical looks of menace they sport. And again, I picked another guy who can act his ass off. Liev has shown the versatility to play criminals ( Ransom), tough guys ( Ray Donovan) as well as even transgender characters ( Taking Woodstock). He has experience with darker movies ( Omen remake). Surely he could pull of the role of the quiet, and sneaky Davis.

Another fairly easy choice was the role of Bobby Beausoleil.


Dave Franco. Of course, the brother of  James. This one does require a little more explanation as he is not a "dead knock off" of Bobby looks-wise. Franco has the "puppy dog cute' good looks that Bobby liked to give himself credit for. Even more than that, what struck me as the perfect way to audition Franco for this role was to watch 21 Jump Street. He plays the "cool" guy in his group of friends who gets caught up in trouble trying to sell drugs to bikers, and winds up desperate. Sound familiar? I think that we have enough of a visual from that performance, and his look, to feel pretty good this is our man to play Bobby.

A more difficult choice of the men at the ranch was Clem.

I decided on Cole Hauser. you have seen him in a couple of the Ben Affleck Boston area movies such as The Town, and Good Will Hunting. However, he always holds a special place in my heart for his role in Dazed and Confused which is my favorite all time movie. In that movie Cole plays a loyal, quiet character who more or less follows around his groups leader ( QB of the football team he plays on). Perfect.

Crispin Glover first caught my eye in the movie The Rivers Edge. He has shown up since then in everything from The Doors to Back To The Future. He has the look and talent to play Paul Watkins. Watkins will be a wild card in my movie. He will be hard to read and the audience should not be sure whose side he is really on.

Mike White will play Brooks Posten. He directs and acts. He played Jack Black's roommate in School of Rock. The shy guy whose girlfriend ( Sara Silverman) walks all over him. He was also in The Good Girl with Jennifer Aniston. He is also a writer, producer and has worked on shows like Dawson's Creek, and Freaks and Geeks. He has the light hair, fair complexion and easy demeanor to do a spot on Poston. Besides, he can help me with all that other stuff I have no idea how to do. An all around good guy to get involved.

Only one man alive could look crazy enough to bring TJ to life. Jack Nicholson. Did you know that his career making performance in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was given to him despite the protest of Ken Kesey who wrote the book it was based on? Kesey wanted Gene Hackman to play the part. Kesey claimed to have never seen the movie. So, to name a few of my favorites; Easy Rider, Five Easy Pieces, China Town, The Shining, Terms of Endearment, A Few Good Men, As Good As It Gets, The Departed. The list goes on and on. I am quite sure that none of you need Jack's resume from me.




My ideal Lynette Fromme would be McKenzie Phillips. The tiny frame packed with so much energy. The cute little smile and hint of reddish hair. McKenzie grew up right in the middle of it all. She absolutely gets the times.  If we can keep McKenzie off the blow for long enough to complete the shoot, we would have a dynamic performer playing the role of a dynamic person. In her defining character on One Day At A time- she played the outspoken teenage girl in her family. It fits to me.




 This is my choice for the role of Sandra. Leelee Sobieski. If you are not sure who this is please go watch Here on Earth. She plays a young dying girl torn between her long time boyfriend and a guy she meets who inspires her ( Josh Hartnett and Chris Klein). She delivers a line in this movie that floored me so hard, that It haunts me to this day. This girl has it all. Strength and vulnerability all wrapped up in one. She has also starred in Joy Ride with Paul Walker and appeared in Glass Houses with Dianne Lane.



I know, I know. LILO. But its my first movie. I have to see if all the hype is real. This is a person who is always looking for another chance in movies, and nowadays comes cheap. So this could be an actual fit. As far as look and temperament, she is a natural fit for the part of Nancy Pitman.



Kourtney Kardashian gets to play Ruth- my favorite of the girls. She has no acting experience at all. But, she could easily be made to look like Ruth, and she is the only one in her entire family I can stand. This is one cheesy reality show I do not watch, but my ex does, and she tells me this one is somewhat grounded, very family oriented, and more interested in her children than the spotlight. Hard to believe, but I can give anyone the benefit of the doubt till I know otherwise.

Lisa Loeb is not an actress, but what a voice! And more importantly, she reminds me of a young Barbara Hoyt.  We may need to hire another actress to portray her in the sequel, but Lisa will fit the bill perfectly for what we need in the first installment. Hoyt is a loud-mouthed attention whore in My Manson Movie. I gotta make her a little sympathetic, because at the end of the day she did the right thing by getting out of there and they did try to harm her. But, I will make it very clear that she is wrong all these years about Shorty's death, and is just as interested in self-service and attention as she is helping anyone else. Because that is what I think.



Since we cant use Billie Jean King any longer, To capture the essence of Diane Lake, I thought of Danica Mckellar. Winnie Cooper from The Wonder Years. This is a fair representation of an attractive young girl with sad, lost eyes. Small and quiet, this will be a minor part.


How about vintage Joan Baez type to play Catherine Share? This could work aesthetically. For now I am going for a general idea of what will work. This type of look works for me.






Martha Plimpton has the skills to play our Mary Brunner. She was pretty well known back when I was in high school. She was in Goonies. She was also in Running on Empty starring River Pheonix. She also did a turn playing the onscreen brother of his brother- the then "Leaf" now Joaquin in Parenthood. She also did the Mosquito Coast with Harrison Ford. She was once also nominated for a Tony for being in a play. So, she can act. And, she has the looks to be a good Mary.



Country Sue could be portrayed by Ashley Doherty. Ashley was a contestant on this past season (which just ended) of "Married at First Site". This is a cheesy reality show that I do watch. Its a reality show where 3 couples are matched by professionals and then they meet for the first time at their wedding days. They are followed on camera as they honeymoon, movie in together, and then try to live as married couples for 6 weeks. Then they have to decide if they want to stay married or walk. Tonite happens to be the season finale, so I will let you know soon if Ashley is off the market. ( Saint says she dumps the guy)

Update: Ashley dumped him...



Cappy Gillies role will be offered to Tracy Pollan. She is married to Micheal J. Fox. She met him on an episode of Family Ties but it didnt get serious until they met again on the set of Bright Lights, Big City.  She is a fine choice to play the fair skinned and attractive Gillies. We will address the issue of Cappy being a Buffalo Springfield Groupie in My Manson Movie in a quick mention.




Laura Pepron was Donna on That 70's Show. She has done a bunch of TV appearances since, and been in a couple of smaller movies. Kitty was best known for being the girlfriend of Bobby, and "Donna" is best known for being the girlfriend of "Eric" on the show which was her one big hit. I will be calling on her and her TV dad to play roles in My Manson Movie. Laura has the red hair, light complexion, and freckles, to be a fine Kitty Lutsinger.





The TLB Killers:


Tex Watson is the wormiest, scummiest character on the face of the Earth. The Character Jake Gyllenhaal played in Night Crawler is EXACTLY what I need. An emotionless, self serving maniac. The guy next door who you never saw coming. Cold, unattached, calculated, SCARY!! Plus Jake can get into character and look like almost anybody. This is my choice to play the role of Tex.




While I grant you that Fairuza Balk is not a spot on look alike for Susan, can you name me another actress who can come across as bat shit crazy? Loud mouthed, attention starved characters who are willing to shock you into noticing them is what she specializes in. From American History X to The Craft to this girl has been acting her way into a Manson movie for almost her entire career. Sounds like a perfect formula for Sadie to me...




To be quite honest with you, I am not sure why I brought Kristy Mcnichols into this. She was my first crush. I used to read Tiger Beat just to see if it had her pictures. But, she was on a TV show called Family. She was never considered one of the "Hot" girls of her time. She was more of a tomboy, and had some masculine traits. Check out the character she plays opposite Tatum O'Neill in Little Darlings. Kristy became very quiet and withdrawn from public later in life as a result of awkward  feelings from her youth. Kristy could draw on a lot to play this part. I guess that's why I brought her into this...



Kendall Jenner is LULU. Just look at them. Flip mothers and tell me that either one of these two couldn't have wound up either way? Take the make-up and X off one and put it on the other and tell me the difference? So- yes in this case, I have to bring two of the Kardasholes into the tent. But the mom is not allowed near the set. If Kim or Kanye show up- they are all out!! That is a deal breaker. But, like LILO, this might be one of the more realistic choices- age and look wise. Plus she would be looking for a break out chance to cross over into acting I bet. That family loves attention more than I do.



Did you know that Alison Arngrim gives small private tours around Hollywood called that "Nasty Nellie Tour"? Would you believe she cancelled on me twice, last minute, when I booked both times months in advance? Once to do publicity for a "Little House on the Prairie Anniversary Media Tour" which was dreamed up and announced out of nowhere after she took my reservation. All true! I dont know why I chose her except to tell that story, so lets move on. After all, I shouldn't hold a grudge against someone for screwing with Laura Engalls all these years. She does look the part though doesn't she? That look of- "I got away with it again"



The Victims:


April Bowlby played Candi on the TV sitcom Two and a Half Men. She played the exact role on that show that Sharon was asked to play in almost every role she ever got. April is no Sharon, nor will any woman ever be. But. April has the look and experience to play a hot Hollywood bombshell who men were attracted to as much for her physical attributes as her artistic talent. I felt the first time I ever saw April that she reminded me somewhat of Sharon in the Fearless Vampire shots. Sharon gets nothing but love and respect in My Manson Movie. We will not be showing the actual TLB murders in any scenes. They will have happened. The movie will spook people regardless.



Do you recognize Patrick Fugit? He was the little kid reporter "Star" of Almost Famous. This was Cameron Crowe's movie loosely based on himself also starring Kate Hudson. A film that helped make Kate Hudson a star. The scene where the two of them go back and forth while telling each other how old they are is a classic. Patrick really gets this nod because of his look. He can pull off the Roman "lost in myself" look and puffy hairstyle. Unfortunately for Patrick, Roman is going to take a beating in my movie. Roman sucks!



Tim Matheson was in Animal House and Fletch among others. Two more of my favorite movies seemed to have crept into my decision making. But he plays the part of responsible business/ladies man as well as anyone I have seen. This was the toughest call I had to make, but I simply couldn't find a fit I liked better. Jay will be treated as a Hero for trying to defend Sharon in My Manson Movie, but we will not shy away from his other habits which leave other options for the motive of his murder on the table.



Ellen Page made a movie called Hard Candy. In this movie she got the upper hand on a child predator who intended to do her harm. she outsmarted her attacker and forced him to make a choice between exposing himself and ruining his life for good, or taking his life. The idea of Gibby having a chance to get the best of those animals who went after her, was all the inspiration I needed to pick Ellen Page for the role of Abagail Folger. Ellen can act as well though. She was nominated for an Academy Award for the movie Juno.



Javier Bardem in the role of Voytek makes sense. Strong features, Foreign heritages. I think that Javier could pull this off. A supporting role, and not much dialogue. His job is to be in the background and offer the threat of unknown danger lurking. Did you see him in No Country For Old Men? Check! I liked him in Skyfall as well, which was the best James Bond movie in some time. Voytek as well will be mourned and respected, but his life with be spoken of with brutal honesty. People will be made aware of his darker connections.




Portraying Leno Labianca will be Don Stark. Don has made many TV appearances but you will know him best as Donna's father on the TV sitcom- That 70's show. Don has the look and acting experience to play this small flashback role. Saving time from him to dissect the life of his more interesting wife.


Angelique Boyer. A French born, Mexican actress. She will play Rosemary whose memory would be celebrated in My Manson Movie for all the amazing things this adopted woman was able to accomplish before her life was so senselessly taken away. Although in flashbacks, I would make sure to make the public aware of what a resilient, and brilliant woman this was. I chose a mostly unknown person for this part to represent the fact that I believe Rosemary is an overlooked, or forgotten victim. Due to the names and circumstances at the Cielo home, and her husbands hobbies/connections, most people never paid much attention to how accomplished this determined woman became. After this movie and performance from Angelique- that would change.


Steve Parent is a very small part. But his memory is no less significant. He too will get a bit more than just the obligatory mention. Jonathan Lipnicki can hold this down for us more than adequately. He was the adorable little boy in Jerry Maguire. Stealing scenes from Tom Cruise and Rene Zellweger shows he could hold his own around the rest of my stellar "Dream cast."



Gary will be a bigger role, but shown in flashback sequences as he will have already been killed at the start of my movie. Aaron Ruell is the perfect actor to play this part. Although my favorite work from him is comedy, Reno 911 and Napolean Dynamite, He has the perfect look and personality to play the soft-spoken music teacher. I am waiting on more information, and debating still, to include any references to drugs in regards to Gary in My Manson movie. I am leaning towards not doing so presently, but am still waiting to see the SS video to draw my final conclusions.

Time out: You know, maybe Gary is a separate movie. Val Kilmer once made a movie called Wonderland about the Wonderland Drive Murders involving John Holmes. They retold the chain of events three times in the movie. First from Holmes' view to the cops. Then from one of the victims boyfriends points of view to the cops. Then at the end of the movie- Holmes tells his ex-wife what actually went down. Maybe that's the way to make the Gary Hinman movie. Tell it from the robbery side from one characters narration, then the drug burn from anothers. Add a third neutral voice- like maybe a prosecutor or investigator to include the actual facts, and then let the audience decide....

 Anyway- that can be my next movie or maybe the sequel?



Someone with a look such as Billy Bob Thorton would be a good choice to play Shorty Shea. The character he played in Tombstone shows that he can do the cowboy look with the required level of authenticity. I hear he likes to drink beers too, so it will be nice to have someone on set to party with.




The Attorneys:


Jerry Stiller has been around forever and seen it all! He has the look, and the acting experience to play an attorney who has been around forever and tried it all.





Playing Bugs is much like trying to play Charlie. Its a tough ask to portray a legendary person who feels so strongly about themselves as a legendary person. Joe Pantoliano is just that man. He also has the look. From The Fugitive to The Sopranos- this guy has been popping up in things I like for years. It will take study and hundreds of hours of preparation to take on the role of the dogged prosecutor, but hey that's what we do in this business right?

But if we want to pass on acting ability and go strictly by looks and government work related experience- as Matt pointed out to me- Bugs has a doppelganger:

Rudy Guliani. Big city politics. Italian heritage. He had to do some acting to get elected to NYC's highest post. So we can make the choice here between practical experience and acting experience, and get someone with a similar look either way.




The Rest:



Robert Hendrickson could be played by someone like Josh Brolin. He too was in the recent movie Everest among many other movies you made have seen such as the True Grit remake, Milk, American Gangster, and Jonah Hex. He too grew up in the LA area, knows the times, and he certainly has the good looks to play our favorite Documentary maker. We just need to get him up to speed on Mr. H's vocabulary and political beliefs and values.

Mr H. - you were a good looking dude back in the day. Coming off an Academy Award nomination, and with your youth and good looks, you must have actually lived the ultimate male Holywood dream! You need to tell us about walking the Red Carpet and stuff like that. Did you get to do that? The times were hostile and volatile, but they couldn't have been all bad right? How about some of the "Good Ole Days" stories? I promise not to put any of that stuff in My Manson Movie :)





The Lizard King, is no longer available for the part of Mark Ross. Too bad. I still need to work on this one, because Mark Ross is a potential unknown factor in all of this. The wildcard character. I feel like thee is way too much untold anywhere about his involvement with The Family, and his connections to several of the players who remained free after the crimes. In My Manson Movie I will make sure that people understand there are little-known people such as Mark Ross looming around this case who may have some answers as to who knew who, and what really went down in some of the shadier areas of the lesser known Family crimes. If I were in Vegas and there were lines on who people would expect to have inside information about the crimes and inside life of The Family- I bet you Mark Ross would be one of the longest shots on the board. Nobody outside the people who really study this even know his name, or who he is. Is the character Mark Ross listed in the credits of as single Manson movie over the years? There he is with the main players at the courthouse and at the ranch. A family related death occurs at his place, and yet he sails through it all, after all of these years, mostly under the radar somehow. Maybe its because he knows nothing. Maybe he really is along shot. In Vegas this kind of long-shot is my kind of play.

Crazy idea for one possible scenario in My Manson Movie: Mark Ross is a secret plant by the government into the Family, and that is unknown to his friend and collaborator- the Director of the Documentary, and lead character in my film. This would explain why Mark Ross's involvement was able to stay quiet all these years, and his former friend, our Director, has a long lasting distrust of the government.

Hmmm...


Col Paul Tate will be played by me. Saint Circumstance. I will need to do a bit of a makeover, but this is the best way to sneak myself into a small role. I am kinda age appropriate. Make-up and wardrobe will sort the rest out. I feel like I have been a strong defender of Sharon's ( and all of the victims) honor all these years on the blogs, so I felt this was as good a place for me to sneak myself in as any. Plus, most of you know that I always wanted to be The Col  :)


Doris Tate will be done by Edie McClurg. She was the principals secretary in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. She also does a lot of voice-overs in movies such as Frozen and The Little Mermaid. Edie is another looks choice. Although, she does have some serious acting chops-which she will need to play the heroin in the first installment of My Manson Movie.


For the part of Patti Tate, we need both beauty and vulnerability. Ever seen Mary McCormack in 1408? She is perfect. It is a horror movie, but she plays a woman who lost a child. Grieving, and still being beautiful is hard to do. Mary can do it. Sadly, we know Patti will spend much time grieving in My Manson Movie. Mary first came on my radar when she played Howard Sterns wife in Private Parts, but she has done much great work since. Mary gives us the great looks and sensitivity we will need in this role. She was last seen on TV's In Plain Sight as a Deputy Marshall.



 
We may need to get different actress' to play Deb in latter installments of my movie franchise as she ages. However, for the years during and immediately after the crimes-  A resemblance to Debra is all we need for the first part of my story when Deb was still very young. A young Susan Dey type could accomplish this. And, I loved Lori in the Partridge Family. All my friends liked Marcia Brady. Not me. I was the only one who liked Lori Partridge better.



Smaller Parts or Cameo Appearances:

Shai LaBeouf to do a couple of scenes as Juan Flynn, and to drink beers with myself and Billy Bob. He was in a great movie called The Company You Keep with Robert Redford, which is the first and only movie I have ever seen which mentions the Brotherhood of Eternal Love. Oh yeah. He was also in those Robot movies... What were they called????  :)


R. Lee Ermey. I would like him to do a few lines as Paul Crockett. He was the Drill Sergeant in Full Metal Jacket. He was also in Seven with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman as well. Those are just my favorite two movies he did. He has been in many, many more.


Nick Stabile will do a brief cameo as Dennis Wilson. He has experience in that he has played Dennis already in The Beach Boys: An American Family. I liked him better in Bride of Chucky though.


Gregg Allman will cut his hair a bit do a short scene as Terry Melcher. He is going to play "Im No Angel" for us among other songs during breaks on the set as well.


Hart Bochner will have several key scenes as Gregg Jackobson. Hart has been in movies I liked since the 7'th grade (Breaking Away). When I was in high school he played the part, pictured above, of a cop who is sneaking into a doughnut shop on duty to fool around with Leah Thompson. Her boyfriend in that movie was Eric Stoltz, who lived with Christopher Penn. It was called The Wild Life. Loved it! Although, I guess most of you will remember him as the shit-talking, sales man -coke-head in Die Hard.


Zero will be in a couple of scenes and his death will be explored leaving the audience with more questions. John Cusack is my all-time favorite actor, so I had to include him. I have watched Say Anything, and The Sure Thing, hundreds of times over the years. He had a small parts in 16 Candles, and Class ( with Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Lowe and Andrew McCarthy respectively) which is where I first saw him. He was not one of the "Brat Packers" like Judd Nelson, Andrew McCarthy, Rob Lowe, or Michael Hall. They got the best parts for a time, thanks to John Hughes mostly. But, Cusack got to star in a couple of his own Romantic Comedies, and just came across as more likable than any of those other guys. From there he never looked back. You tell me which of those other guys has stayed as relevant and continues to make A-list movies at the level John Cusack does? High Fidelity, The Grifters, Runaway Jury, The Raven, Being John Malkovitch, Pushing Tin, Grosse Pointe Blank, Con Air, The Thin Red Line. Just to name a few.  He made a great TV cowboy movie called Jack Bull with his dad as well. He has really never been in anything I didn't like. I had to find a way to get him in. It was as important to me as getting myself in. Almost :)



Why not?  "Donkey Dan" could be played by somebody also known for having a big ..... Ron Jeremy would do as Danny Decarlo.


Scott Caan can do a brief, but important appearance as Al Springer. Another LA guy who has been in many movies I like such as, Oceans 11, Varsity Blues, and Boiler Room. He is on the updated TV version of Hawaii Five-0, but I do not watch that.


Timothy Hutton as William Garretson. Hutton is an afterthought now in Hollywood, but not back in my day. He starred in some of my earliest favorite movies like Taps, and the Falcon And The Snowman, which featured him over other young actors also in those films with names like Sean Penn, Tom Cruise, and Kevin Bacon among others. He first made a name for himself as a young actor in the movie Ordinary People where he became the youngest actor ever to be nominated for an Academy Award (Best Supporting Actor).




And finally we have George Spahn. In my wildest dream,  playing George Spahn in a short cameo appearance would be Robert Duvall. He came into my life in The Godfather series. Since then I have sought him out in movies all the way back to Mash which was made before I could even understand what a movie was. I saw movies such Tender Mercies, Apocalypse Now when I was a kid. Colors and and Slingblade when I was a young man. Runaway Jury, and Phenomenon when I was in my 30's. And still he keeps plugging away all through my 40's with movies like Get Low, and The Apostle. Robert Duvall continues to put out great films and give excellent performances. Open Range was a good cowboy movie, and he was great in it,  so I know he will look right at home in the vintage old Western outfits.

And that, old friends, would be my preliminary idea of a "dream" cast as well as a few hints to a potential plot. Obviously, Making my dream a reality will take much work. Fair to say I wont be able to get any of the people above to be in My Manson Movie. I need some money and an actual cast who can act and look like the people in my list above. The mountain to climb will be very high, but I have experience getting things done very high. And, I do have a few things in my favor. I have already personally scouted all the locations. I have access to a top notch research team. I have no balance on any of my credit cards. I have watched enough Manson Movies to know beyond a doubt what will NOT work. And, if that is not enough for you, I have "The Attitude". They say you need AN attitude to survive in Hollywood. Well, I have the Attitude.

To explain The Attitude here is  Robert Romanus as "Mike Damone" in- Fast Times At Ridgemont High (My second favorite movie of all time):



"Yeah, The Attitude. The Attitude dictates that you dont care weather she comes, stays, lays or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin'. 

Now when you got that- you got the Attitude"



                                                        - Your Favorite Saint