Bill Nelson and Doris Tate interview Ed Sanders

 This is an interview I've never seen. It's not the best quality visually but the sound is good all the way through. The interview is raw, unedited footage. While there no date on the interview there is mention that it had been 20 years since the TLB murders.

Bill Nelson conducts roughly the first hour, then Doris Tate takes over for about 15 minutes, the last couple of minutes are of Nelson preening before the camera.

Ed Sanders seems a little exasperated with Nelson at times. Nelson's questions mainly revolve around other murders the Family may have committed. Of course Nelson wanted to slip in questions about whether or not Sanders had entertained the idea that anyone in the Family could have been the Zodiac Killer. Sanders largely dismissed any such notions. 

Sanders did offer up one murder where the Family was investigated that also had a Zodiac Killer component. When the murder was first brought up Sanders couldn't remember the victim's name though much later in the interview he did finally come up with a name. He qualified the accusation by saying that another man, Stanley Dean Baker, was believed to have committed the murder. 

The victim was Robert Salem who was found dead April 19, 1970 in San Francisco. It was a very brutal murder. Salem had been stabbed, he had a missing ear, and his heart cut out. On the wall of his apartment the words Satan Saves and Zodiac had been written in the victim's blood along with what was possibly supposed to be an Ankh symbol. It was the writing in blood on the wall that drew the attention of Los Angeles detectives that had investigated the TLB murders.

In all likelihood it was Stanley Dean Baker who committed the murder though he was never charged. 

Here are some articles about the murder that Baker was convicted of committing. The first is an anniversary article which has all of the basic information about the murder of James Schlosser in Montana and how it came to be that Baker was arrested in California for that murder. The second is an article written at the time of the trial for Baker's accomplice in the Schlosser murder. It includes questions asked of Baker, while he was in the witness stand, about the Robert Salem murder.

The other murder that Sanders said was investigated as a possible Manson murder was that of a black drug dealer named Super Spade, true name William Edward Thomas. Super Spade's body was found in a sleeping bag that had been tossed down a cliff near the Pt. Reyes Lighthouse in Marin County on August 6, 1967. He had been shot and relieved of a hefty amount of cash. I feel like it was far too soon after Manson was released from prison in March 1967 to have been committed by him. The crazy had not begun to set in, yet. The murder is still unsolved.

The remainder of the possible murders that Sanders spoke about have all been discussed at one time or another here at the blog.

The Manson Family Archives YouTube channel is hosted by James Dawson. He has many Family related videos.

KEEPING MANSON BEHIND BARS

This was sent to me by Robert Hendrickson before he passed away. It's from the Los Angeles Times Magazine, May 14, 1989.

This is what his note to me said:

MATT:

Here's some stuff:

Don't remember you doing any Stephen Kay thing. He deserves some PRESS - after HE did so much.

Robert

Bill Nelson disrespects Mrs. Tate

This video is old, I know, but it is informative, if not extremely uncomfortable to watch. Bill Nelson, as you all know was a Tate/LaBianca researcher/stalker/extreme creep. How he was able to get the wonderful Mrs. Tate to answer some of his ridiculous questions is beyond me. This man should of been ashamed of himself asking her such things, and going into detail after detail about her daughter's horrible murder. It was so unnecessary, and I do believe he was doing it on purpose to try to make her start crying on film. This man, while alive needed a few dozen lashes with a bullwhip, preferably administered by Col. Tate! This interview was broken up in sections, and the embed feature is disabled, so I made links. Sorry about the inconvenience. The first part of the interview starts at 6:54.

First part:

Second part

Third part

Fourth part

Fifth part

Sixth part

Seventh part

Holy Cross

Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Tate's Hair Designs

Mom Patty had her best friend in town last week from Rancho Palos Verdes. That's where Mom, Dad, Panamint and her baby sister Gluten-free Patty lived when they first came out to LA from Detroit in 1975.

Anywhoo, Patty asked Mom Patty to ask this friend if she knew that Doris and PJ Tate had lived so very close to us "back in the day"? Like, within a mile, maybe. Serious. My mom did not know, nor did Patty until fairly recently. This friend responded that yes, she did know, because she got her hair done at Doris' beauty parlor! She does not remember a lot of details but this is what she wrote:

"Hi again!!! I don't remember the dates. The hairdresser I used worked for Doris Tate. I think I went there for several years. I had many casual conversations with Doris. I knew who she was and that she lived in PV. I believe I met one of the sisters. I also remember a time when Charles Manson or one of his followers were coming up for a parole hearing and talking about the fact that Doris went to make sure they never left prison. She was nice. She wasn't visibly sad. Her business was successful. That's about all I remember. -S"

Special Thanks to Alisa Statman for sharing the above photo to jog S' memory. If we are lucky maybe she will remember more.

Sharon Tribute Video

Looks like this was done by someone who's first language is not English. Still has some nice pics of not just Sharon, but the entire family. There was one part that made me laugh really loud. My bet is that you can guess which part it was.

Some older pics of Sharon

Above- Debra Tate

                                    Sharon and Doris celebrating Christmas year unknown

Sharon and Dad

Doris Tate and Ed Sanders

Patty has never seen this photo before. 

Did Doris write a book? 

Can't find it on Amazon.com...

Bush making Doris one of his Thousand Points of Light

The original photos that were sent from the White House and what appeared in Restless Souls