Manson "Attorney" Jailed as a Fraud

Remember Giovanni di Stefano the attorney who was going to get Charles Manson cleared of all charges in the World Court?  Well, it seems that di Stefano himself was a conman too, just like Charlie, and not an attorney at all.  He has been convicted of fraud and money laundering in the UK and received a 14 year sentence.  Many thanks to a loyal Eviliz lurker for this story!



Read the story here- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21969624

Eviliz's previous post on di Stefano
http://www.eviliz.com/2011/05/giovanni-di-stefano-asks-governor-jerry.html

Olancha

Above: Olancha, CA in the 1940's

Item Two that was lost, reprinted for your enjoyment: (cached version available at http://www.zimbio.com/member/eviliz/articles/i6aVXZXjLRG/Charles+TexWatson+identified+1968+murder)
From Giovanni Di Stefano's site, Studio Legale (http://www.studiolegaleinternazionale.com), a portion of the correspondence between Di Stefano and Barack Obama regarding the murder of Karl Stubbs:

"Tex Watson was seen following a man named Karl Stubbs to his house and that man was later found dead on 9/15/1968 in Olancha, California. This the verbatim statement from the California Police Officer as below:

“I have another murder that I want to tell you about. The victim is an 80 year old man named Karl Stubbs who was killed November 15, 1968 in Olancha, Ca., almost a year before Tate/LaBianca/Hinman/Shea. A witness identified Tex Watson in 1970. There were also two unknown girls there when Karl was beaten. The murder was not followed up on. Why? Because Charlie was nowhere near Olancha then and it would show that Tex is the serial killer. There is no way the Bug could have convinced the jury that he had total mind control on everyone back in 1968!

I spoke to the witness that lived behind Karl. She told me that Karl crawled to her trailer and told her husband that there was a boy and two girls that came in his house demanding money. Every time the boy would kick him in the head the girls would laugh. The witness said that Karl was totally lucid but he could not see. He died hours later. A year later, Tex Watson confessed the Tate/LaBianca murders to Diane Lake while there were in Olancha. Olancha is the gateway to the Barker Ranch via Hwy 190.

The case was investigated by the California Department of Justice. Tom interviewed the investigator who said that the investigation "fell through the cracks". It was not until Tex was finally extradited from Texas, after everyone else was tried, that the clerk at the store recognized Tex on TV as one of the kids that followed Karl home from the store. It is unknown if this was ever reported to Law Enforcement.

To this day, DOJ will not do anything with this case. (I have talked with them). Why not?????
It would show that Tex was killing people almost a year before, independently on his own, as well as two of the girls. That would not support the Bug's Helter Mind Control/Helter Skelter theory.

Olancha is a very small town. Gas Station, Store and one restaurant. About 500 people scattered over many square miles on ranches. It was not local kids. The Hannum Ranch is in Olancha. David Hannum worked at the Spahn Ranch in 1969 and the family used his mother's ranch in Olancha to park a semi trailer full of supplies and use it as a base.”

Giovanni Di Stefano Asks Governor Jerry Brown to Dismiss Manson Conviction without Prejudice

By Ro Hurley, cnn.com

SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA – On April 24, 2011, Manson attorney Giovanni Di Stefano sent a request to California Governor Jerry Brown asking him to grant executive clemency to Charles Manson and immediately release Manson from Corcoran State Prison.

Di Stefano has requested executive clemency based on remission of sentence in lieu of a full pardon. The request cites specifically that in the original trial, Manson was denied the sixth amendment right to represent himself, highlighting a footnote in a 1970’s ruling that enforces one’s constitutional right to act as his or her own attorney. This case specifically mentions Charles Manson by stating, “The state mentions several times that one of its prisoners who may benefit from the Faretta decision is Charles Manson.” The footnote continues to state, “A federal court must make its decisions in accord with the Constitution and the laws, without regard to the notoriety of parties or nonparties."

Mentioned in the request for clemency is a possible conflict of interest when prosecuting attorney Vincent Bugliosi released his bestselling novel “Helter Skelter.” Di Stefano pointed out, “We must question why did Mr. Bugliosi engage a "ghost writer" throughout the trial and would the world have known about Mr. Bugliosi if Charles Manson had been acquitted in royalties from his book. “

Additionally, the claim points to Charles “Tex” Watson as the mastermind behind the killing spree. A retired California police officer claimed that Tex Watson was the murderer of an elderly man named Karl Stubbs long before Watson was associated with Charles Manson.

Recently, Spain’s “Vanity Fair” magazine ran a story of a phone interview from 2009 in which the magazine claimed that Manson had broken his silence after 20 years. Charles Manson’s longtime friend John Michael Jones exclaimed, “Manson’s comments were taken completely out of context by Vanity Fair. He has always been an environmentalist and has never claimed responsibility for any murder. This was a magazine’s sad attempt to re-hash an old interview to in order to get ratings.”

Obama rejects Manson's request to over turn his conviction

According to the article from "Vanity Fair" Spain, the lawyer Giovanni DiStefano announced that it will take the case to the Supreme Court and will also appeal to the Govenor of California.
Hmmm, Bruce tried that and didn't have much luck. Doubt Charlie will either. The link is from the same Vanity Fair article (in English).

"I told you all that blackie was gonna rise up. Now look what happened one is President.
If they would just let me out, i will go to my bottomless pit and wait until it is all over.
Then Obama will come and find me and say "Charlie your time has come to rule the world."

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.revistavanityfair.es/articulos/obama-rechaza-la-peticion-de-manson-para-anular-su-condena/12551&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhimjAYkS_lXG9HB_siDoXb9-ec79A

The Spanish Vanity Fair Magazine Interview

Vanity Fair's Spain magazine's exclusive interview with Charlie.
I have included the link to the articles through Google translator,since the entire article is in Spanish. I myself took 4 years of Spanish in high school and learned nothing but a few cuss words.  You get the entire Charlie interview the first one in many, many years.  Lots of good stuff there.

                     

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The Devil's Advocate Has Got His Own Problems, Apparently.

The Reader.es reported last Sunday that Saddam Hussein's lawyer Giovanni Di Stefano will not be representing Charlie anytime soon. He will be facing charges of fraud and misappropriation of funds in the UK once he has fully recovered from recent surgery to repair his rectal sores. You can't make this stuff up, people.

eviliz- day late and a dollar $hort

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/22/charles-manson-president-barach-obama-fax-attorney-saddam-hussein-giovanni-destefano-satan-pardon/


clink link to see the letter to the Prez


The Devil's Advocate Attorney Di Stefano says his
newest devil -Charlie Manson was nothing more than a cult leader, not a murderer.  Manson didn't do the killings. 
At worst he might be guilty of telling his followers to "do something witchy".   Never specifying murder."   

Wtf is the definition of "witchy" anyway? 
Kinda broad, given the source.


Now we all know Charlie was not found of blacks. 
He said the white women getting with the black men is ruining the the gene pool.  Isn't who the letter is written to The President-one of those people from the ruined  gene pool?  I wonder if when Obama was elected, did Charlie
start preaching- "I told you they would rise up and take over!" BUT-       It was "comin down slowly"
by taking 40 something years. 
  

 the link above will get you the whole letter.  here is some of the same old song and dance in the letter to The Prez.  (Thanks to Stacey for the link)

“I have killed no one and I have ordered no one to be killed."

I don't recall ever saying "Get a knife and a change of clothes and go do what Tex

says."

Or I don't recall saying "Get a knife and go kill the Sherriff."

Saddam Hussein's attorney represents Charles Manson in petition

By Ted Rowlands and Michael Martinez, CNN
February 8, 2011 6:06 a.m. EST

(CNN) -- Prominent attorney Giovanni Di Stefano, who has represented former Iraq dictator Saddam Hussein and his right-hand man, "Chemical Ali," or Ali Hassan al-Majid, is representing Charles Manson in his attempt for a new trial, Di Stefano told CNN on Monday.

Di Stefano has filed an application with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights on behalf of Manson, he said. The petition says Manson didn't receive a fair trial when he was convicted 40 years ago because, among other things, he was not allowed to represent himself, Di Stefano said.

The prosecutor in the Manson case, however, said Di Stefano's claim has no merit.

Manson was assigned a public defender after the judge in his case became frustrated with Manson's behavior while he was acting as his own attorney.

Di Stefano said that was a violation of Manson's Sixth Amendment rights and is grounds for a new trial.

Di Stefano said he wants Manson's case to be reviewed in the federal courts in the United States. Because of the notorious clients he has represented, he has been dubbed "the devil's advocate." He lives in Italy.
2009: Manson the inmate

In a telephone interview with CNN, Di Stefano said he is working on the case because he believes in justice, even though the murders Manson is accused of orchestrating were "horrendous."

"This is a question of law," Di Stefano told CNN. "I have no interest in the facts of this case. The law is the law."

Vincent Bugliosi, who prosecuted Manson, said he thinks Di Stefano is "wasting his time," adding that "he may be a fine lawyer and very sincere, but he's coming up against a brick wall here because there is no merit."

Bugliosi said the issue of Manson representing himself has already been ruled on by an appellate court. According to the law, it is up to the trial judge to determine whether someone should represent himself, Bugliosi said.

In this case, Bugliosi said he actually went along with Manson's request. "I felt that he might even do a better job at cross examining the witnesses than real lawyers," Bugliosi said.

However Bugliosi said he believes there is no way Manson could have done everything himself. "He needed counsel to help him," Bugliosi said.

Di Stefano said he believes there were other flaws with Manson's trial, including what he claims was a lack of any proof that Manson told his followers to commit murder.

Manson was convicted of ordering the 1969 "Helter Skelter" murders of actress Sharon Tate and six others.

Manson was originally given the death penalty, but the sentence was changed to life in prison when California temporarily abolished the death penalty in 1972.

Manson is a prisoner at Corcoran State Prison in California, where he's housed in a protective unit.