Happy Thanksgiving to all of our readers!
There really is a place called Manson, WA. The school Thanksgiving Lunch:
Rose: Do you have friends you can talk to?Rose seems to establish early on a pattern of steering the conversation continually from the interesting to the banal:
Manson: I am friend to everything I see, everything I know, everything I feel
Rose: “what about other inmates?”This statement is a theme that Manson revisits later in the interview. Rose asks him about his fan mail and then Manson opens up about “the Rainbow”: His explanation of what the spiritual aspect of the sixties was about and where it originated, using an analogy of a tree growing up from a seed underneath the ground and how a similar process can occur in the mind.
Manson: “I am brother in these hallways for 40 years. With no snitching on my jacket, no asking for nobody to protect me, and walking on my own two feet.”
Manson: I…I don’t have that.
Rose: You don’t have that?”
Manson: I don’t have that yin and yang that you people do.
Rose: Is that ying yang?” (rose seems to take “ying yang” as a phrase connoting nonsense)
Manson: yeah, in other words, you can’t make me unhappy
Rose: Are there sad memories, though, growing up?
Manson: I don’t have all that. (smiling)
Rose: You do have it. You are an individual; You have an experience. You are one human being with experience.
Manson raises his eye brows back in forth quizzically but with good humor, amused at Rose’s attempt to put words in his mouth, responding:
Manson: When you leave go get a big rock and set it on the table.
Manson: I am that big rock on the table.This was a pretty straight-forward Zen object lesson. Was it completely lost on Rose?
Manson: Everything is love, there’s nothing that isn’t love, even the confusion is love in one form or another, it’s misguided. Love is a word to supplement for God. I would rather use the word intelligence. If you’re going to use the word love, use the word intelligence because love is misunderstood in so many different ways and fashions.
Rose: Do you need to be loved?
Manson: Loved… I am loved, I am love
Rose: By whom? Are you loved
Manson: I am love
Rose: Are you loved?
Manson: All the way and around the world with it, didn’t you see it? Two hundred and fifteen times taking it in the fire with it man
Rose: Meaning what
Manson: Me? Meaning I’m taking up all the slack for you assholes. I’m carrying you around. Nixon. I still got you… Reagan, hey Ronny! … I’m intertwined in your very soul man.Rose, being firmly on the side of established authority(demiurge?), isn’t going to go along with Manson’s idea of himself as a scapegoat., instead continuing to paint a picture of Manson as psychopath/criminal/schizophrenic. He couches his words in the implication that others see him that way:
Rose: … and what do you say of those people who say ‘monster’?
Manson: What you see is what you get. Man, they have to live with it. I don’t. You have to live with your judgement. I live with mine. (Smiling)
Rose: You don’t think of yourself…
Manson: That is right. I don’t think of myself.Rose continues to paint the picture of how “most people” see Manson:
Manson: I don’t think you guys have seen me.
Rose: No? What don’t we understand?
Manson: You don’t understand yourselves.
Rose: No but what don’t we understand about you? Granted we don’t understand ourselves, but what don’t we understand about you?
Manson: Just what I said…I am inside of you man. I live inside of you. I am inside every one of you.They go back and forth for a while.
Manson: Prison? I left prison in ’67. I got out of jail.
Rose: Yeah, but you are back.
Manson: Can’t you see that I am out, man? Can’t you see that I am free?”Somewhere along the line, Manson found liberation. Rose, captive to his own judgments, a man of the establishment, remains in prison.
|Clyda and Johnny|
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So..I cannot be legally married in 33 out of 50 States, but the mass murderer Charles Manson can legally marry some blushing little thing called STAR; while serving life in prison!!!??? Thank Almighty God that the Republican Party has worked so hard to preserve the sanctity of traditional marriage!!!
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