Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Didi?

HellzBellz & I came up with the same thought nearly simultaneously.
Could the girl in the "Get on Home" video be Didi Lansbury?
What do you think?


Didi Lansbury on right



Is this Didi on the left? 
The Girl is only in the video for a few seconds 
and she doesn't open her eyes, unfortunately.

UPDATE TO POST - 12:47 ET

HellzBellz & I have exchanged a few emails over the months speculating about the girl in the striped robe. HB mentioned that the robe looks expensive and we speculated that it could have been fashionable at the time. A few moments ago, HB wrote to me the following and provided these photos. Interesting stuff:

I think...the dates are fitting...It can be DeeDee. I also think the striped robe was an expensive fashion thing.....Sharon Tate wore it, Jim Morisson's wife Pamela Courson wore it...She had a boutique for hippie clothes and things....And Angela Lansburry was a TV star...They all knew each other...I think Sharon and DeeDee Bought the Robe in the Boutique of Pamela Courson in LA.

Pamela Courson in the striped robe


Sharon in the striped robe






62 comments:

orwhut said...

Excellent again, Matt. I can't tell if it's her but, I'd hopped you'd put up the photos.

orwhut said...

I believe that should have been hoped not hopped. Double consonants are a problem for me.

Matt said...

Hard to know too when this shot was taken. Angela moved herself & children to Ireland in September of 1970. That would leave plenty of time for the possibility that this could be her.

Jiri said...

The girl in the video looks very similar. Same color this and straight blond hair, shape of the nose and mouth seem to match. You two may be on to something.

sunset77 said...

I'm not sure of the exact date Pitman and Good shaved their heads but that can probably be determined. I've wondered who that girl was as well, the pic of Didi looks very similar.

There is another person in that "Get On Home" vid I"m not sure. At 1:13 I recognize Gypsy (probably clem) Paul Watkins, Mark Ross, but I don't know if the person between clem and Mark Ross is Dennis Rice or not.

Also, in the famous Spahn Ranch raid pic with Manson in handcuffs in front of the "murder mobile", Danny DeCarlo is reportedly on the left, but I don't know who the bald guy is on the right in the pic.

orwhut said...

Sundered77,
I watched more of the film about the Whites of WV and found out that one of them has a large tattoo of Charlie on his back.

HellzBellz said...

@Matt....Ask lizz how long I talked about that.....Thought and was mindfuckin...There are some Pics of Angela and Young DeeDee....I am verry shure its her.

Suze said...

I can't tell if it is or not. It's funny how with so many people that knew them that no one has steeped forward to positively ID her.

She's pretty whoever she is.

Panamint Patty said...

Looks like her except in the bottom photo she is a bit thinner from living on dumpster casserole.

Welcome, Jiri.

Panamint Patty said...

Hair part is falling the same way, same eyebrows and cheekbones, wide mouth. It's totally her.

leary7 said...

it sure would be nice if there was a network in place where someone could just reach out to Kitty and ask her, who is the babe on your right. Or better yet, ask Didi herself. What's the harm at this stage admitting you were part of the freak show - within a couple of years Spahn will be as distant as Dealey Plaza and Ford's Theatre.

leary7 said...

"within a couple of years" - probably not until Charlie and Tex get their death sentance from above.

Panamint Patty said...

Leary, Patty agrees with you. When Bryan Lukashevsky told Brian Davis last month that he would speak "when the time was right," Patty interpreted that to mean when he is retired, done working, further from the implications of his involvement and more of a historical figure. Apparently 42 years is still not long enough for those who survived to be comfortable sharing their knowledge for posterity.

Jiri said...

Hi Miss Patty! I'll be sending you a postcard from Prague!

Matt said...

Jiri, are you Czech?

candy and nuts said...

nice pic of Pam C MOrrison never saw this one before

Jiri said...

Yes Matt, both of my parents are from there. My name is pronounced Yeerie.

I speak the language and have business interests over there. I promised Patty a card on my next trip later this month.

Vikess said...

Haha I am from Czech Republic too :)

Vikess said...

Good to know I am not alone here.

Jiri said...

Vikess, I think I saw HellzBellz & a fellow Dutchman meet on here too. Small world - evan on Manson blogs :)

Panamint Patty said...

@Jiri: Looking forward to the card. :)

@Matt: interesting it's a bathrobe: Patty thought it as a caftan. PS: the stats are WILD again this morning. Everyone excited about today's parole hearing, Patty'd venture.

Vikess said...

totally small I would have never thought I'll met here someone of the same nationality.

Matt said...

Bathrobe/caftan, whatever. We're men, it looks like a robe to us. Don't nit pick.

sunset77 said...

Apparently, Angela Lansbury is in a play on Broadway. It opened April 1, 2012. Here is a link to a pic with her daughter Deirdre Shaw:

http://www.broadway.com/shows/best-man/photos/celebrate-opening-night-of-gore-vidals-the-best-man-with-james-earl-jones-angela-lansbury-eric-mccormack-more/172584/the-best-man-opening-night-angela-lansbury-deirdre-shaw

Panamint Patty said...

LOL

Clearly, it IS a robe on Pamela and Sharon. Patty was just not sure about the one on "Didi."

HellzBellz said...

Maybe because Patty...the foto of the girls is a lil Blurry...where DD ?? is sittng in that Robe....A thought DeeDee lived overthere....La ?? somebody has the Nerves....??? Say that a Nice Dutchh guy asked you...I WILL take Full responsibility....Ask her if /where she Bought the Robe ?? Was she a Sharon Tate Fan ?? Pamela & Jim ? envolved?? I have to stop MindBogling about those Robes ? Anny way I am pretty sure..I think....... thats Deedee sitting on that corner...Listening to Sandy telling LA will burn. A few months later...a summer...There was somethin Burning...Lansburry Residence. I would be Bitter... Nice to have some fantasy on this old Age....

cielodrivecom said...

It's official, 15 years

HellzBellz said...

oeefff...you think He can reach his 90s.... 15 years.

Panamint Patty said...

Hans you raise an interesting point about the Lansbury house burning down. Was it an accident? Or did someone start it on purpose? Hmmmm. Anyone?

orwhut said...

Angela's kids sure looked like their mother.

HellzBellz said...

I do not know Patty....Maybe the Lansburry residence was in the woods..forest. The Hills of LA were burning more than once ?? I realy do not have that aknowledge..You live near LA? Somebody from LA must know..Maybe?
That Robes drive me crazy...there is something about those things. Not shure.. I am not finished with this.. Just cant have peace O mind...

Panamint Patty said...

True Hans, there are a lot of wildfires in the area. Patty just loves a good oo-EE-oo, as she is sure you have noticed.

Ole J.C. said...

Sunset77, that guy is "kevin" who is in the Behind The Manson Gang Docu. I think Hendrickson said he may have been an FBI informant because he appeared out of nowhere and disappeared just as fast.

As for DiDi, I personally swear I saw her in Sherman Oaks, Ca. I mean... it looked exactly like her. I think the girl on the sidewalk is her.

hexjoe53 said...

Leary7 said , within a couple of years, when charlie and tex get their death sentence from above. I hope you realize ,we all have a death sentence from above, it's called old age, and it's punishment for original sin. Yes i believe in adam and eve!

HellzBellz said...

Here I am again with my Black & White striped Robe Phobia....I think TWO of them are 1 and the Same......It has passed Hands, as a Friends gift ?? Girls to Girls...
Younger... Pffttt.

orwhut said...

Now days women make headlines for wearing the same outfit.

Suze said...

Seeing her daughter on that corner with the rest of the Manson Girls coupled with the house burning down whether or not it was accidental could be enough for anyone to move to Europe if they have the means!

maxfrost said...

Too bad Pam's ( soul mate of Jim Morrision ) doesn't reveal her stunning red hair, green eyes and clear skin. Pam was known not only for her stunning beauty but also her cutting edge fashion. Jim bankrolled her high end boutique on La Cienega. Likely that Pam's robe came from her shop. Wonder if DiDi's and Sharon's did as well?

"She has robes and she has monkeys lazy diamond studded flunkies". I read that the original lyric used the word junkies but was sanitized for public consumption.

fiona1933 said...

That's the picture I've been looking for!! That girl has such a lovely haunting face. Wish I knew who she was.

leary7 said...

Patty, I have to show my ignorance again here, I don't know who Bryan Lukashevsky is. Can you enlighten?
It sure would be nice to have a comprehensive update on who the talkers/potential talkers are amongst the gang. Gypsy always seems willing. Liz said Stephanie may be writing a book. An interview with Grogan would be a huge coup. Mary Brunner too. Though both seem hellbent on keeping Spahn in the closet. And of course all the boys would love to hear from Ouish.
One has to sympathize with their desire to keep it all in the past, but everyone is nearing the finish line now, sure would be nice to get some intelligent reflection from a few of em.

leary7 said...

A Stephanie Shram (?)book would only interest me if she could slant it with something from the present. I mean she wasn't with the Family that long. That other Stephanie, Rowe was it, that was discussed her recently was there for a long ride and would have more insight.
But Steph S. was Charlie's 'girl' when TLB went down so she does have relevancy. I wonder if Charlie would agree to let her visit him in jail for some reminiscing. That would be a cool slant.

HellzBellz said...

@ MaxFrost 12/4 6:23....
Max...Thats just what has given that toughts to me. Pamelas Boutique, The Robes. When I seen the Pam-Pics with the Robe. But I also know that Jim was devastated hearing the News on the Radio of Sharon Murdered. He felled sick and confused....canceled the recording sesion for that day... It struck him hard apearently. They knew eachother...I am sure, there is also the LA woman Official Video-Clip Ray Manzarek produced,Co/made. the lirycs ,,Motel Money Murder Madness ,has changed the mood from gladd to Sadness...then in the part...You see the 1969 Newspapers going through the screen, about the Murders,Headline. So Ray Manzarek knew Jim was talking about TLB. In this lyrics,.....
I think there is more with the Robes..or maybe it is just one and the same Robe... cant let go of it.

orwhut said...

Leary7,
I couldn't remember who Bryan (Bryn) was either so, I did a search and found some very insightful commentary about him on Colonel Scott's site. It was made by a guy calling himself leary7 at 8:24 PM, April 12, 2011. If the link below works, it should refresh your memory.
Best wishes.

Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog: Bryn- still more on this guy tatelabianca.blogspot.com/…ll-more-on-this-guy.html

La-de-la said...

Isn't that girl Cappy Gilles? Sure looks like her.

Nefaereti said...

@sunset77....The guy in the Spahn Ranch raid photo with Manson and Danny is Robert Reinhard, I'm pretty sure...Member of the Straight Satans who was picked up in the raid by mistake...

sunset77 said...

Nefaereti said...

@sunset77....The guy in the Spahn Ranch raid photo with Manson and Danny is Robert Reinhard, I'm pretty sure...Member of the Straight Satans who was picked up in the raid by mistake...


I seen the name Robert Reinhard in the arrest report, I thought that might be him also.

Ole J.C. said...

Sunset77, that guy is "kevin" who is in the Behind The Manson Gang Docu. I think Hendrickson said he may have been an FBI informant because he appeared out of nowhere and disappeared just as fast.


I have "Inside the Manson Gang" saved on my computer, I know he mentions a "Kevin". I'll have to watch that again, that was a day they all got in Hendrickson's truck and rode down for court.

As far as Didi is concerned, I know she was friends with Pitman, and Barbra Hoyt said she gave her a ride to Spahn. I'm guessing she hung around the Manson's because of the drugs. I looked VERY hard for info on the house fire, I couldn't find anything.

maxfrost said...

DiDi has moved to the top of my list.

Matt said...

La-De-La, it is definitely not Cappy.

La-de-la said...

I don't know, Matt. I watched the video a few times and still not convinced that's not Cappy. How are you so sure? Just curious.

Zarathustra said...

Quite obvious, doesn't look like Cappy to me neither

Matt said...

The nose is all wrong, plus Cappy was heavier. Also in 1970 Cappy's hair was quite shorter than this girl's. Cappy's was above the shoulders.

The striped robe has always bothered me. If she was one of the regular girls that sat on the corner I'd think we would have seen it worn by others.

sunset77 said...

That girl in the pic at the top of this page doesn't look like Gillies to me either. Here is a link to a vid with Gillies, a closeup of her face at 22 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI

Also, a link to a vid of Sharon Tate wearing a very similar robe to the one on the girl at the top of this page:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmxKbYWo_zM&feature=related

hexjoe53 said...

The woman on the left is pam courson, not dee dee.

Matt said...

Hexjoe, do you have evidence to back that up? I cannot find anything that confirms Pam Courson ever met any Family members.

HellzBellz said...

HexJoe ...No..Pam was a Red-Head by that time of trails...AND they were in Paris...The girl is younger...I did researched that...I could be wrong...but its not hard to find out Pam & Jim were in Paris when Manson was tried...guilty. That cannot be Pamela Courson...

HellzBellz said...

The Pam in the Robe is Young Pam 1966/67.....By the time the Trails were Pam looked Old...and Tired...That girl is not Pam !!

Zarathustra said...

Tha name of the boutique was Themis, located at 947 North Cienega blvd, LA. I think Pam Courson at that particular stage was too busy with two things in life: Jimbo & heroin

HellzBellz said...

Yes @ Zarathustra...Unfortunatly you are right..Pam destroyed herself..One of the more those Days. She was too a remarkabble beautyfull young woman. I am not here to slapp myselff on the shoulder..but my Ex looked a lot like young Pam...I did read a lot about her...Pamela I mean. I am kinda Doors Fan all my youth-later life....46 now

Matt said...

Just got negative confirmation from an ex-Family member. They do not know who this girl is, but says it is definitely not Deirdre.

Back to the drawing board....

Jesse2112 said...

Has anyone seen "Inside the Manson gang" posted online for free yet? My intense need to watch it and my empty wallet keep arguing over it, and I really would like to end their dispute.

Panamint Patty said...

Patty was just informed by a reader that the striped robe is a Moroccan "djellaba." Thanks CrisPOA

Goo said...

That is not Didi in the top photo, that is Angela's grand-daughter. Her clothing etc does not fit with the time that Didi would have been that age; this young lady looks to be around 20-25 and Angela far too old for this to be Didi. Love the blog.