Monday, December 27, 2021

Ivor Davis

Davis/Harrison 1964. Express Newspapers photo credit. 

Last week, I read Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50 Year Journey into Madness and Murder by Ivor Davis. Nearly five hundred pages in length with sources, author notes, and etc, the Kindle version of Davis' book set me back five bucks. Davis also accompanied the Beatles on their first American tour and wrote about their adventures together. His links are at the bottom of this page.  

I'm feeling Joan Didion's passing a bit more than I would've imagined. I love Didion's version of the Sixties and search for her thoughts on this or that often while digging through the times. Slouching Toward Bethlehem should be on every Manson syllabus. Didion is cheap on Amazon if you're interested and likely free online if you spend a moment searching. Kindle readers are in luck. Didion's collected essays are available for the price of a small latte. 

Born after the 1960's, I rely on others to fill in the blanks for me on this stuff. Bo Emerson. Youtube. The Internet in general. I always say the comments sections here and elsewhere taught me as much as the posts. And I'm usually down to check out any Youtube discussion on the subject. This interview from Christmas week was an easy watch and the foundation of my post today. The quotes at the bottom of the post are from the interview and not the book. 

Ivor Davis first entered our study with Five to Die in 1970. The following is from Davis' Amazon page. 

At the time, I was the West Coast correspondent for one of Britain's largest circulating newspapers and my editors immediately assigned me to find out everything I could about this senseless massacre that was instant front page news around the world. What happened that balmy Summer's night became one of the most infamous chapters in the history of brutal murder in America. 

Eventually Charles Manson and his band of pitiful souls were arrested not only for the Tate murders but also for those of Los Angeles businessman Leno LaBianca, 44, and his 38-year-old wife Rosemary, whose bodies were found one day after the Beverly Hills killings in a house in Silver Lake some 13 miles from the first murder scene. 

A colleague, Jerry LeBlanc, and I wrote a fast book about the Manson murders called Five to Die. We had an early start on the case. As soon as the story broke that Manson, who had been taken into custody at the remote Barker Ranch in Death Valley on October 12, l969 more than two months after the murders, was a key suspect in the case, we began to dig into his background and that of his "family." Remarkably, as we progressed, we seemed to be several steps ahead of police investigators. 

Our book was rushed out in paperback in January 1970, seven months before the trial began. It was the very first book to catalogue the bizarre story of life with Charlie Manson. Several years later, long after I had covered the trials which resulted in first degree murder convictions for Manson and four of his acolytes, Charles "Tex" Watson, Susan Atkins, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel, I met former Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Aaron Stovitz. He had been head of the DA's trial division and the lead prosecutor in the case before he was removed by the District Attorney for contravening the Judge's gag order. 

Much to my astonishment Stovitz dropped a bombshell. "Your book was the blueprint for our prosecution," he said. "It was all there for us to follow." Five to Die had not been a best seller and it received scant attention at the time it was swiftly overtaken by new developments as the sensational trial unfolded.

You can pay a lot for Five to Die online. It's also out there gratis. Either way, Stovitz's bombshell got Davis moving on Manson Exposed...

To this crowd, Davis' book will resemble a long magazine piece. Some of that has to do with your inquisitive nature and lifetime spent peeking behind curtains. The remainder comes from the author's lack of desire to stray far from center these days as far as I can tell. Davis says he thought Helter Skelter was laughable but also recognized others like Lynette Fromme believed Manson was innocent and should be released. 

Davis also claims in his book that Fromme threatened him outside the courthouse and asked if knew how a sharp knife shoved down a throat felt or something along those lines. 

Yikes but also what are you doing tonight after court? 

Apologies. I made quick decisions on women for an embarrassing number of years and some of that is still inside me even though I'm old. Let's get back to it. 

Charlie was in court over dune buggy shenanigans in Independence, California, on December 3, 1969. Davis and Steve Dunleavy were there. This was Manson's first court date after Barker. Even though the charge was Receiving Stolen Property, guards brought him in with an extra security chain around his waist. I could not find any evidence Manson acted out in jail during his seven-ish week incarceration before the court date and even found contradictory evidence.

From cielodrive.com:  

"Manson is most definitely still the leader of the three other guys,” an officer said. “He gives them orders and they obey him. 

“We find Manson a model prisoner. He should be. He’s been in and out of jail since he was 15 years old. He seems to be very intelligent and well-read with a good vocabulary.”

The deputy continued, “Manson is cooperative and talkative to a point, but careful not to implicate himself in anything.”

This is the beginning of the jail stint where Charlie complains they won't let him shave or visit a jailhouse barber. Newspaper, tv, and radio hopped right on Manson's shaggy appearance and chains. According to Davis, the LA dicks took Manson to Los Angeles following his plea of Not Guilty.  

Remembering the trials in Los Angeles, Ivor goes in on Ronald Hughes' then recent UCLA Law School graduation, Hughes' garage office, and Daye Shinn's specialty in helping people apply for green cards. "Inept lawyers."  

On Manson: "He was quite eloquent. He made sense." Davis was present while Charlie testified for an hour with the jury removed. According to Davis, when asked by the bench if he'd repeat everything he'd just said but with the jury present, Manson refused to testify. The girls jumped to their feet and said the same about themselves. 

Expressing shock over the defense strategy, Davis said, "The lawyers all got up and said we have no evidence to present." The author/journalist believes Helter Skelter worked because the jury saw the girls following Charlie's orders in court. 

On Watkins: "Paul looked like a young Clark Gable. Smooth demeanor. Knew how to talk to people." 

On Charlie's ability to conquer female minds: "He had the gift of the gab. Within an hour, these girls had become a disciple." 

Will the book change your life? No. Did I have fun word searching and date hopping for $4.99 even if I forgot for a year and a half that I own the book? Yes. 

If you have thoughts on Ivor Davis and his role in the Manson study, please let me know below. 

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In fairness and because I've read his post several times over the past few years, my blog colleague George Stimson had this to say about Davis and Five to Die. 

If I took a Stimsonesque or Schreckian position, or even without taking one, I notice the Ventura photo of Charlie has been filtered, redrawn, whatever'd, and Manson looks apelike on the front cover of the newest Davis book. 

But like an evil, hypnotizing ape amirite? Genius and idiot all rolled into one. +ggw

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Stimson books.

Ivor Davis bio at The Authors Guild.

Ivor Davis books on Amazon.

Ivor Davis home. 

A bit on Ivor and The Beatles for Fab Four aficionados and fans. 

64 comments:

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Over a year ago, Mr Ivor Davis was kind enough to follow me back on Twitter
👇
https://mobile.twitter.com/idavisbeatles

I believe Mr Davis' Bobby Beausoleil Charles Manson Case scenario is a part-of-the-reason that the murders at Cielo drive occured.

I can guarantee everyone, Beausoleil "knows" what I have been talking about on this blog for several years
pertaining to the former National President of The Hells Angels, George Christie
👇
https://www.mansonblog.com/2020/08/interview-with-simon-wells-author-of.html?m=1

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

TabOrFresca said...

GreenWhite said: “On Watson: "Paul looked like a young Clark Gable. Smooth demeanor. Knew how to talk to people." 

Please provide a citation for that statement otherwise the response is “NO”.

The name is Paul Watkins. Second, he did comment on how Watkins’ “mustache” was pencil thin like Gable’s.

“Manson Exposed” is a decent read but non-essential. Davis does use the date of “August 1, 1969” for the Crowe incident and he did respond about this date when asked (on his website). The press party photo is kind of nice. It shows George Bishop, Ron Hughes, Linda Deutsch, Mary Neiswender, Bill Farr, BUG, Katz, and others casually together. A number of Bill Robles sketches are also included.

“5 to Die”’was a very good book when it came out. The FOTW and Karl Stubbs are first (?) mentioned here. It like “The Killing Of Sharon Tate” and the “Rolling Stone” interview were pre-trial and provided a lot of good info. Unfortunately for myself, I paid more for “5 to Die” than paying full price for the combined total for the books by “Stimson, Fromme, Lake, and Ivor Davis (Manson Exposed)”. Never saw the second edition, with Stovitz comments.

I remember Stimson’s article pretty well and enjoy reading anything he writes. I don’t agree with all he (or anyone) says, but I sometimes disagree with what I say.


GreenWhite said: “for the price of a small latte”.

“I never had a dog that liked me some.
Never had a latte or wanted one.”

I do however drink mass quantities of black coffee and carry a one-cup coffee maker when I travel.

GreenWhite said...

ToF - Good eye! He absolutely said Watkins. I'm going to fix it now. Happy New Year to you. Been wondering how you're doing.

GreenWhite said...

Sorry. I thought I typo'd. I'm finding the time stamp now.

GreenWhite said...

Hi, Mario. Happy New Year.

GreenWhite said...

ToF - I am fully up to speed and will stop commenting now. Typo fixed. I'm tipping the coffee scales at full burlap bag levels myself this morning. Slightly unrelated but I also misspell Atkins every third time.

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Thanks GreenWhite.
Happy New Year to you also
🎉🎊🎈

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Also GreenWhite...I forgot.
Another senior moment for me....lol.
I left a comment on my Twitter account for Mr Ivor Davis referencing this
Blog-Post of yours
👇
https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1475495400102531075

Keep-up your excellent work GreenWhite.
I read this blog everyday

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

starviego said...


Off topic! Has anyone ever heard of a visit to Spahn by a band called Captain Beefheart? I came across this comment in another forum:

"My guitar teacher played guitar in a little band called Captain Beefheart. In the late 60s, they were in Simi Valley and ended up going to "the ranch" because the Captain [Don] wanted to have a chat with Charles Manson.

"They went there, and Don and Charlie walked away from everyone else to talk in privacy. Zoot wrote all about this in his book "Lunar Notes."

"I asked him what they were talking about, and he said that he did not know. Considering how Don treated the band during their Trout Mask Replica work, with all of his mind control tactics, I suggested, "I think they were trading notes." "

SixtiesRockRules! said...

gw, you mentioned in this article that davis' book "5 to die" can be found for free online. I've been looking for a free download of that book for a LONG time and have never found one. Could you provide a link to a free pdf? Thanks in advance.

GreenWhite said...

Sixties, do you have an email address? If Matt knows it you can ask him to send it to me. You'll also find it in the Files section of Schreck's Manson File facebook group.

GreenWhite said...

Star - I'm pretty sure Charlie told the Captain not to mess with Karate Sue.

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

SixtiesRock.
I shouldn't be going by memory at my age....lol.
I got mixed up...lol.
Mr Ivor Davis FIRST followed me on Twitter
👇
https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1154348962456858625
I followed him back.

Hope this helps.
Mr Davis, several months later, directed me to this YouTube video of him
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https://youtu.be/ayunpOeU3To

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

brownrice said...

Speaking of British writers on the Manson case,
vale Simon Wells.

tobiasragg said...

I read this book perhaps two years ago. I remember little of it, other than it was a breezy and rather fun read. Quite magazine-like, as you suggest. Certainly not vital Manson reading but it was a bit interesting to gain a reporter's POV on the matter.

tobiasragg said...

The flakey Stovitz claim aside, Davis is being a bit self-congratulatory in claiming that his dimestore book served as the basis for the prosecution's "Helter Skelter" motive and case.

Davis had simply gone to Spahn and fielded, then reported, the same H.S. details that Van Houten, Atkins and others were spewing in December '69.

What was truly in Manson's head as he authored these crimes is anyone's guess, but the whole Beatle/Helter Skelter thing was being vomited out by all associated with this thing well before the trial ever started.

GreenWhite said...

Hi, Brownrice. Happy New Year. I'll order the Wells paperback today. I remember interviews with him online when his book came out but don't think I ever bought it.

GreenWhite said...

Tobias - I got the feeling Ramsey (interviewer) and Davis are both familiar with the things we discuss here but kept it kinda basic in that interview. Happy New Year to you and I hope no hobos are in your bushes.

cielodrivecom said...

Tobias, you'll be hard pressed to find references to Helter Skelter in the press back in 1969/early 1970. Go read any of Atkins’ interviews/testimony from 1969, she really doesn’t mention it. As for Van Houten, the recording Marvin Part made didn’t become public until 1977.

tobiasragg said...

"you'll be hard pressed to find references to Helter Skelter in the press back in 1969"

I didn't speak of public awareness. I was talking about the prosecution & early press investigators who were talking to various family members. They were all describing this same set of beliefs, which were also communicated on the walls of three crime scenes.

cielodrivecom said...

"I was talking about the prosecution & early press investigators who were talking to various family members. They were all describing this same set of beliefs, which were also communicated on the walls of three crime scenes."

Pretty vague. Who are you referring to?

tobiasragg said...
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Doug said...

Likely a connection rooted in Topanga days...if it did happen.

tobiasragg said...

Vague, eh?

The subject of this column was one, Felton/Dalton are others. Manson laid the entire thing out for them just weeks after his arrest. Ed Sanders & members of the "underground" press were also sniffing around and fielding this same story from family & associates. Davis' book was not the source of the Helter Skelter theory, Davis was simply talking to the same people that the prosecutors and everyone else with early curiosity into this thing were.

But of course, you already knew this.

Let's see, which hair shall we next split? What misdirection should we follow? Or might we instead raise objection to something new that has not been said?

brownrice said...

GreenWhite said...
Hi, Brownrice. Happy New Year. I'll order the Wells paperback today. I remember interviews with him online when his book came out but don't think I ever bought it.


Hi GreenWhite,
Simon's book wasn't really that earth-shaking. His most significant contribution was his debunking of the Joel Pugh/Bruce Davis story (which may have featured in a second edition of his book but wasn't in the first). He was a nice guy though and used to pop up periodically on this blog, the Colonel's one & Cats' forum. He was also (relatively) young to die. So it goes (as Vonnegut said).

GreenWhite said...

I got it for eight or nine bucks so no biggie.

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

There is a lot that I haven't made public pertaining to my main focus regarding The Charles Manson Case & Saga

I just tweeted this this morning.
👇
https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1475841346430648325
I have photos.

Lil John stayed at my house for a short time in 1982.
He married a friend of my wife and mine named Deborah Lee Jones.

And who is that "famous" Kickboxer?
There is quite a backstory.

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

beauders said...

Am I reading correctly, Simon Wells has died?

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Sadly Ms beauders,
Simon Wells has passed away
👇
https://omnibuspress.com/blogs/blog/remembering-simon-wells

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

brownrice said...

beauders said...
Am I reading correctly, Simon Wells has died?


Hi beauders.
Sadly, yes. I've only just realised that no-one outside of Oztralia says "vale" when someone dies... my apologies.
I should have said "r.i.p". I was wondering why nobody was reacting.
I was a facebook friend of his, so I saw the funeral notice but can't find much else about it. It was pretty unexpected I think.

Matt said...

beauders said...
Am I reading correctly, Simon Wells has died?


I have not heard that, nor can I verify it


Gorodish said...

Looks like he passed away November 11th of this year. Some links:

Remembering Simon Wells

Simon Anthony Philip Wells

Simon Wells Facebook Page

cielodrivecom said...

“But of course, you already knew this.”

I didn’t. But thanks for clearing it up. I don’t have a dog in the fight regarding Ivor’s claim to be the source for the prosecution's theory. Just pointing out he certainly didn’t get that info from Atkins or Van Houten. That aside, Ivor’s claim is the kind of marketing claim you get to hang your hat on when you are the first to print, which he was. Good for him

As far as splitting hairs and misdirection, again, you’ve lost me

Zeke002 said...

How can someone manage a Manson blog and lobby against "hobos in the bushes"?
Hobos are Charlie's people.

Zeke002 said...

"Wiseass"..there, i saved you the tweet.

GreenWhite said...

Happy New Year, Zeke! Managing might more hopeful than realistic in my case...

Chris B said...

From memory didn't Ivor pay to get stories from Watkins, Poston and Flynn?
All three went on to be prosecution witnesses so perhaps that is where the DA got the heads-up from.
I believe the claim is also made on the cover of the re-print of 5 to Die.

Zeke002 said...

I disagree, you are the Casey Stengal of the TLB world.

grimtraveller said...

Chris B said:

From memory didn't Ivor pay to get stories from Watkins, Poston and Flynn?

From memory, $1100 each. Being around Charlie all that time taught them something, then. How to get money from the establishment ! 🥸

All three went on to be prosecution witnesses so perhaps that is where the DA got the heads-up from

A reasonable assumption.
But it's clear from the Virginia Graham police interview of late November '69 {as well as the interviews before that from Al Springer and Danny DeCarlo, even though HS isn't mentioned by name, the concept is clearly there} and Bugliosi's questions to Susan Atkins in the Grand Jury hearing of Dec '69, some months before Bugliosi spoke with Watkins or Poston and before his big interview with Gregg Jakobson in the January of 1970, that even before the end of '69, Bugliosi had an inkling that this was no ordinary, straightforward predictable motive murder, and that HS played some role in it:

Q:Susan, did Charlie oftentimes use the word pig, or, pigs?

A:Yes

Q:How about helter-skelter?

A: Yes

Q:Did he use the words pigs and HS very very frequently?

A:Well, Charlie talks a lot

Q:I am concerned about these two words, pigs and helter-skelter.

A:I know of..in some of the songs he wrote, HS was in them and he'd talk about HS. We all talked about HS

Q:You say "we," are you speaking of the Family?

A:Yes

Q:And that includes Tex?

A:Yes

Q:So the words pigs and HS were common vocabulary; is that correct?

A:Yes

Q:In what context would you and the other members of your Family use the words pig and pigs or HS?

A:Context? Would you..

Q:How would the words pigs and HS come up in your conversation?

A:They'd just come up. All conversations were spontaneous

Q:What did the word pig or pigs mean to you and your Family?

A:You must understand that all words had no meanings to us and that HS was explained to me

Q:By whom?

A:Charlie. I don't even like to say Charlie, I'd like to say the words came from his mouth that HS was to be the last war on the face of the earth. It would be all the wars that have ever been fought built one on top of the other, something that no man could conceive of in his imagination. You can't conceive of what it would be like to see every man judge himself and then take it out on every other man all over the face of the earth. And pig was a word used to describe the establishment

Q:Today's establishment?

A:Today's establishment

I believe the claim is also made on the cover of the re-print of 5 to Die

It is. In the book "Helter Skelter" Bugliosi disses the book as a "quickie paperback" and says that he found out from Watkins, Poston and Flynn, loads of stuff that wasn't even in the book. He has no respect for it, same way he has no real respect for Ed sanders' book just after the trial, when speaking with Robert Hendrickson. I think the authors had some access to the Grand Jury transcripts too.
But I think it's an excellent book, particularly for when it came out. In a way, its publication marks an important point in the shift of Charles Manson, the countercultural hero, championed by revolutionaries and liberals, into that guy that forever was known as "the one that killed Sharon Tate."

Proteus said...

Has anyone ever heard of a visit to Spahn by a band called Captain Beefheart?

I can't comment on whether Don Van/Glen Vliet visited Spahn, but having crossed swords with him I can attest to his being an unpleasant, unstable and unreliable person.

In a dim and distant past I was in charge of concert security at the Manchester Free Trade Hall (UK). In 1974 Don and his band played there and came in early for a sound check. From the stage he demanded that the entire building be cleared for this, and when this wouldn't wash that the concert hall be cleared. I refused both requests but agreed that only security staff would be in the hall while they ran their sound checks.

Don stormed off stage, came FOH and verbally and physically assaulted me. The gist of his outburst was that if the hall was not emptied then and now he would not play the concert. I wasn't concerned about this, being used to the ways of would be rock stars, and had a quiet word with his manager. I told my security people to stay in the shadows and to keep the hall [looking] empty, and the sound check and subsequent concert went ahead.

There have been some strange guys in the rock business, and Don Van Vliet was one of them. I put him down as obsessed with his own self-importance, but maybe he was just having a bad day. And I still like a lot of his music. But one thing I know for sure is that whatever the 'star' has to say about things, without roadies, stage staff and security the show doesn't go ahead.

Chris B said...

From the whole primary and secondary sources way of the world with this subject there is a pre Bugs HS and post Bugs HS. Ivors 5 to Die, Sanders The Family, Rolling Stone special and Atkins Killing of Tate are bona fide pre HS published works. Poston's pre Barker Raid interview is also a corker.

Chris B said...

History now recalls the 1974 band as the Tragic band a play on the earlier glories of Magic Band of the late 1960s. Beefheart wouldn't get back to being amazing until say 1978 or so.
If you like that sort of thing him and Zappa were school buddies and some of both of their earliest recordings are from when they were teens
There is a school of thought that Zappa learned it but Beefheart had it natural.
I am aware Gail Zappa is on record as not liking Manson and entourage.
Manson was big on how Zappa stole his ideas.
Zappa lived out in the log cabin and The Family sort of lived out in the grounds for a while.
Wouldn't surprise me that Beefheart kinda knew Manson but I guess a lot of entertainment types did back then.

starviego said...

More off topic: Has anybody ever heard that Canadian folk singer Buffy Sainte-Marie met Charles Manson at some point? Heard that recently but I'm looking for corroboration. Rudi Altobelli was her manager at one point.

Milly James said...

Hi Mario. Glad to see you're back in the saddle after your Covid experience.

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Thanks Ms Milly
(Over COVID).

I read this blog everyday and all the comments.

Happy New Year to you and your family.
Stay safe.
And thanks again.

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

GreenWhite said...

Dead at Winterland New Year's Eve 1978 full concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-CqDFfJ0Rc&t=1155s

Monica said...

Regarding the Captain Beefhart connection...I asked a friend of mine who was a ethereal part of the Sunset Strip Scene in 1969. Beefhart was her mentor in many ways. Evidently there were a lot of "Mansons" in those times as people were trying to find amswers and express themselves. Beefheart was open to alternative interpretations, and she thinks it is quite possible he visited the ranch. She clearly told me that Manson and his group were known in Laurel Canyon and were considered dirty. I tend to agree.

Off topic...Mario, when are you going to tell us your secret stories? I am equally weirded out and curious when you sign all your comments with thw "OJ Simpson Case." I know you have special info so give us the scoop!

GreenWhite, thanks for all your work.

What happened to Saint?

Happy New Year!

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Happy New Year to you also Ms Monica. And Happy New Year to your family also.

Regarding my personal involvement in The OJ Simpson Case & Saga, I have been waiting a long,long time for a situation like this to arrive for me.
Charles "Charlie" Ehrlich has filed a major lawsuit against New Times Miami.
(He wants no less than 20 million dollars.💰💰💰💰💰.
New Times Miami is owned by Voice Media Group, which is a Multi Millon Dollar Company.

I need to be very general here.
I have read though Ehrlich's lawsuit.
Are there discrepancies in his words?
Please reference these 2 tweets of mine
👇
https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1477019863625261057
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nitrini1950/status/1476872215706566659
Stay-Tuned......

As far as why I tag "The OJ Simpson Case." I tag that to ALL of my correspondences now.
Starting in 2006, some specific people started forging my name. So, with me tagging "The OJ Simpson Case," if someone is forging my name and doesn't have the OJ tag, that's not me.
And even now, if someone is forging my name and tags "The OJ Simpson Case," I can prove that it's not me.
And let me just say:
When it comes to The OJ Simpson Case & Saga, NO ONE CAN DEAL WITH ME.

Also, regarding Charles "Charlie" Ehrlich, there are several people-connections to The Charles Manson Case and Saga.

And in your Google Search Engine, put in Charlie Ehrlich & OJ Simpson's name in the same search. Ehrlich was involved with OJ in the Las Vegas Robbery Case.

Mario George Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

GreenWhite said...

Happy New Year, everyone! Best of luck in 2022. You will need it!

ColScott said...

Happy New Year to all my readers as well as my nurses and med suppliers. And Happy New Year to your family also. My family doesn't like me ��

Regarding my personal involvement in The OJ Simpson Case & Saga, I have been waiting a long, long time for a situation like this to arrive for me. I ordered it via fedex in 2019 but thanks to Covid OJ is still free and will not follow me on Twitter. It has been a long and arduous task since OJ and I danced at the Daisy where he met Nicole and offered to make her the "next Sharon Tate"- which he did very well.

Confucious say "man who farts in church sits in own Pew" and I have always found this to be true. I don't go to Church anymore for that reason and because the priests there did awful things to me there with the bells before Eucharist.��


Anyway follow the money. Brian Goldner the CEO of Hasbro owned the Transformers franchise but he is dead now, in Rhode Island, several days after a black man OF THE SAME RACE as OJ Simpson dropped the kids off at the pool at Popeye's Fried Chicken. Coincidence? OJ as we know is a sociopath with NPD making everything about himself. Yes I do that BUT EVERYTHING is about me and OJ and the sexual relationship we COULD have had! ����



I need to be very general here.

I went to the local strip club in Rhode Island- inferior talent in every way to here in Malibu but what can you do I was on a case for a client- ME. I paid for a private session with a buxom 27 year old named NICOLE- see where I am going with this? Nicole had watched every episode of DOING CRACK WITH THE KARDASHIANS and believes that she saw in Season 6 episode 4 Robert Kardashian's bag containing Nicole Brown Simpson's severed aorta as well as the actual birth certificate/ extraction form for Rosie Tate Polanski.

You see where all this is going right?

Please reference


I have read though Hasbro's lawsuit. It was Pancreatic cancer
Are there discrepancies in his words?
Please reference these Instagrams
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https://www.instagram.com/rose.lenore/?hl=en

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https://www.instagram.com/cemetery_fox/?hl=en


What do we see here- ROBERT BLAKE has a daughter named Rosie and she is 17 now and hot, just like Rosie Tate Polanski is- are they they same Rosie? I submit the evidence to you and leave it to you to sort out the truth. THEN we see that Sharon's Niece Arieana has a treasure map tatooed on her right butt cheek that leads to the ACTUAL DEED to the Cielo Adam Driver estate which I believe still belongs to The Tate Family.
Stay-Tuned......

I hope this all starts to make sense to you. We are dealing with layers here. Goldner/Pancreatic Cancer....Stripper Nicole...Transformers...Col Darwin Scott.....Rosie Blake-Polanski. If you add up the digits in the New Year it adds up to SIX and if you do it three times? SIX SIX SIX ��������

As far as why I tag "The OJ Simpson Case." I tag that to ALL of my correspondences now.
Starting in 2006, some specific people started forging my name. So, with me tagging "The OJ Simpson Case," if someone is forging my name and doesn't have the OJ tag, that's not me. There is absolutely NO WAY any random weirdo can sign that on the internet without me knowing immediately.


And even now, if someone is forging my name and tags "The OJ Simpson Case," I can prove that it's not me. It may be Rosie BUT NOT ME DAMN YOU
And let me just say:
When it comes to The OJ Simpson Case & Saga, NO ONE CAN DEAL WITH ME. In General that is true now that I think about it.


And in your Google Search Engine, put in Rosie & OJ Simpson's name in the same search and use my atrocious spelling skills what do you get? ROSIE GRIER, allegedly an elderly larg black minister ?Ball player (how is that a thing?) but in all likelihood a cosplayer's identity for...Rosie Blake Polanski.

You're all welcome. It's been in front of you for decades bitches!


Mario George Nitrini 111's Keepers, Sharon and Maude
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Dan S said...

"OF THE SAME RACE". Case closed
Lolololololol

I would really like mr nitrini to spell out his bikers at spahn theories and what he thinks happened with the brown/goldman murders. Just because the police planted the bloody sock doesn't mean he was innocent.

Diarrhea mouth + diarreha brain = TLB

Doug said...

S9me of the video available from the '74 UK/European gigs are NOT good. Van Vliet especially comes across in very poor light. He's messed up and, horrendous....

Doug said...

Does anyone know of any connections between the super creepy and preditory child rapist Kim Fowley and, Charlie?

Kim "masterminded" the 1968 ST JOHN GREEN album (a weird and dark "concept album about "Canyon Life") and, also released his own "Outrageous" lp the same year.

https://youtu.be/He6LxGFP6LY

Seems like they must've crossed paths

Proteus said...

S9me of the video available from the '74 UK/European gigs are NOT good. Van Vliet especially comes across in very poor light. He's messed up and, horrendous....

Yes, he had a couple of good albums, then a longish bad patch, then a few more good albums. I think musicians didn't much fancy working with him.

Milly James said...

RE: Mario. I understand from previous posts that his ex wife's niece's husband was a driver for O J Simpson. Hence the connection.

Hope this clarifies the position.

ColScott said...

his ex wife's niece's husband was a driver for O J Simpson
his cousin's wedding planner's daughter was a putter for OJ Simpson
his accountant's plumber's baker's dental hygienist was a nine iron for OJ Simpson

Mario George Nitrini 111111111 (9 ones)
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Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

Ms Milly.
Sometimes my writing does get a little confusing. Not your fault.

Just to clarify.
OJ Simpson's regular limousine driver from approximately August of 1993 to June of 1994 was was my wife's
(She passed away a few years ago)
Niece's ex-husband Rocky Bateman.
Bateman is my ex-nephew-in-law.

In this article written by Bill Boyarsky for the Los Angeles Times about me and Rocky on June 23rd, 1995
👇
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-06-23-mn-16370-story.html?_amp=true
he says it precisely

Mario George Nitrini 111
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Terrapin said...

I'm a bit confused with the OJ stuff too. Are you trying to say that OJ is innocent Mario?

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

No Terrapin. I am not saying OJ Simpson is innocent regarding the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.
I lean strongly towards his guilt. There are some nagging questions for me I have pertaining to Mark Furhman.

But, with what I know pertaining to my ex-nephew-in-law Rocky Bateman, and the photographic evidence I have pertaining to Charles "Charlie" Ehrlich, hard to for me to feel that OJ is innocent at this time.

Mario George Nitrini 111
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J-Dog said...

Bravo, bravissimo, eccellente Maestro Scott!

1st smile I've had on my face this year, possibly the last.
Got my blood flowing.

Blood like what was left in the taxi by Orange Julius and,OH forget about it...

Milly James said...

I didn't clarify the position at all did I? Got the exes and in laws all confused. Sorry Mario/Folks.

Mario George Nitrini 111 said...

No problem at all Ms Milly.
My writing can be a "little"...lol....confusing at times.

Stay safe

Mario George Nitrini 111
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