Monday, November 7, 2016

A Look At the Evidence: #1 Getting to and Leaving Cielo Drive

Other Posts: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7


A few concepts...

The Leading Question. A leading question is a question that suggests the answer in the question or a question that contains the information the examiner is trying to confirm. The use of leading questions is impermissible except in the case of a hostile witness. Why? The answers are unreliable- the examiner is directing or influencing the evidence presented. He is, as a practical matter, testifying, not the witness. So generally, they can only be used on cross-examination. The use of leading questions is a tactic designed as the name implies to 'lead' the witness to the answer you want.

Coaching A Witness. This is a topic that frequently comes up: “Bugliosi told so and so what to say”. Most attorneys don’t coach witnesses like that. Some do, however, offer critical information during the pre-trial interview process hoping and sometimes even suggesting that it might be remembered. Sometimes someone other then the attorney actually makes the suggestion.

Can you spot a coached witness? Yes. How? They sound coached. They blurt out the programmed answer before the question is finished or before they are actually asked about the subject. Sometimes they blurt out the answer several times in response to questions unrelated to the programmed subject. And if they made a previous inconsistent statement they usually say some third party, who is not going to testify,  or some other event refreshed their recollection.

Occam’s Razor.  Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. It is well to keep this rule in mind when evaluating witness testimony. Some answers just sound ‘off’- they don’t make sense because they are illogical or appear contrary to human behavior. They just 'don't make no sense'. 

The only way, then, to try to get the witness's answer back on track is for the lawyer supporting the testimony to add assumptions or facts from outside that steer the testimony back to the story.  When attempted during a trial the objection from the other side is usually ‘the question assumes facts not in evidence’. Usually, however, the assumptions appear during closing argument when the lawyer desperately tries to explain by making assumptions for which there is no evidence. That seldom ends well.

Objective Evidence. Sometimes answers are directly contradicted by the physical evidence or evidence that is unassailable. 

Words Matter. The words a witness chooses to use in describing an event or in response to a question are important and give hints to the listener regarding the testimony and its reliability. For example a typical answer  can go like this: "To the best of my knowledge as I sit hear today I have no recollection of that." This really means 'if you prove I'm wrong I'll change my answer.'

The Official Narrative

What happened during these crimes is the story presented and told by the prosecution starting with the Tate-LaBianca trial and ending with Bugliosi’s book Helter Skelter. The story (not to be confused with the motive) has two primary sources. There are a few corroborating witnesses (these are essential given that the primary sources are co-conspirators) but these witnesses just confirm certain moments along the storyline.

The primary evidence for the official narrative comes from Susan Atkins reflected in her Grand Jury testimony and Linda Kasabian in her testimony at the Tate-LaBianca and the Watson trials. 

The Arrival and Departure from Cielo Drive

The official narrative tells us the murderers arrived at Cielo drive from Spahn’s Ranch at approximately midnight August 9, 1969. Steven Parent was murdered sometime shortly after 12:15 a.m. and the murderers drove away from Cielo at about 12:55 a.m. to reach Rudolph Weber’s hose bib by 1:00 a.m.

Bugliosi clearly wants to prove this timeline. He spends a good deal of time trying to establish it. Why?  He wants Tim Ireland hearing screams in evidence for the shock value. He wants to corroborate Kasabian’s story using Weber.

He also wants to establish and follow a timeline to make it easier for the listener (the jury) to follow the story. Detail also makes 'reasonable doubt' less likely. Concepts like 'about noon' work against the prosecutor. Detail also adds to the credibility of a witness.

Bugliosi may also have wanted the time to be nailed down to limit an alibi defense. It is harder to prove an alibi when the timeframe is narrow or detailed. And.... Bugliosi also seems to have been obsessed with a clock radio.

The narrative relies on the following corroborating evidence:

There is the phone call to Gerrold David Friedman by Steven Parent at 11:45 p.m.

That same Sunday, Jerrold D. Friedman, a UCLA student, contacted the police and informed them that the call Steven Parent made at approximately 11: 45 on Friday night had been to him.  Bugliosi, Vincent; Curt Gentry. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (p. 68). W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

Interestingly, while Bugliosi states this time he actually stipulated at the Watson trial that the call was at 11:55 p.m.

(Witold Kaczanowski didn’t testify. However, he did tell the police that Frykowski called him at ‘about midnight’ on the night of the murders.)

Rudy Weber’s testimony is the other bookend for the crime. At 1:00 a.m. the murderers are at his house.

Then there is a clock radio, which, according to Bugliosi, was forever frozen at 12:15 a.m.....

“On the seat next to him was a Sony AM– FM Digimatic clock radio. The time at which it had stopped was 12:15 A.M. Coincidence or significant?”  Bugliosi, Vincent; Curt Gentry. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (pp. 43-44). W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

Below is an image of what purports to be the actual clock radio. I could not corroborate this fact and the tag to the left ‘looks’ wrong to me although the one at the top edge looks similar to others (what little can be seen). But if it is, in fact, the radio it stopped at 12:19, not 12:15. (Perhaps someone with the full trial transcript or some other source could verify if Exhibit 198 was indeed the clock radio. Or maybe someone knows the source of this image if it is a fake. A friend trying to help sent it to me but didn't record where he found it.) 



According to the official narrative the murderers first cut the phone line. Then they drove the car down Cielo Drive and parked. After parking the car they walked back up to the gate and climbed the fence after scaling the embankment to the right of the gate. Here they saw Steven Parent’s approaching headlights. Watson told the rest to lie down and then commanded Steven to stop. And it began....

Getting To Cielo

How long did it take to get to Cielo Drive?

A Google map search indicates that the shortest route from Spahn Ranch to Cielo Drive should take 37 minutes.

But given Atkins’ testimony before the Grand Jury it might have taken a bit longer.

Q: Did Tex drive you directly to Terry Melcher's former residence?
A: We sort of got lost on the way. I think we took a wrong turn and ended up somewhere in Mulholland and we went directly there. 

Kasabian sort of confirms the one hour drive time if the high end of her range is used.

Kasabian at TLB:

Q. How long after you left Spahn Ranch did it take you to get to this house?
A. I don't know. I have no idea of time. Maybe a half hour or an hour.
Q. A half hour or an hour?
A. Yes.

At the Watson trial she narrowed that range a bit:

Q: How long did it take you to get to the place from Spahn Ranch?
A: I don't know. Not too long, I guess, but I don't know the time.
Q: Could you give us any idea? Did it take five minutes, four hours, an hour, what?
A: Probably around an hour, I guess.

Note Bugliosi’s leading question. It is a nice tactic. He offers two time periods that are absurd and then he offers the one he wants. Based on the leading question an hour may not be right but let’s give it to Bugliosi, as an hour seems consistent with Atkins’ testimony that he had already heard, which is probably why he asked the leading question.

Now we have an elapsed time of 1:00.

When did they leave Spahn?

Atkins and Kasabian never mention a specific time unless Bugliosi first offers one to them. They operate off of ‘Family’ time. 'Family' time doesn't use clocks.

The official narrative says Manson approached Kasabian and Atkins on August 8th and told them to get a knife, a second set of cloths (or two sets) and in Kasabian’s case her driver’s license. This occurred ‘after dinner’. 

When was dinner?

Kasabian at TLB (I have added the emphasis):

Q. Do you know about what time you commenced to eat?
A. It was usually after sundown, so whatever time that is, I don't know.
Q. How long did it take you to eat your dinner?
A. Oh, dinnertime was really funtime, so maybe an hour, and then we --- maybe we would talk or sing songs or maybe he [Charlie] would play his guitar or whatever.

And:

Q. And did anything unusual happen after dinner that night?
A. Yes. I remember I was in the kitchen, cleaning up, and maybe just sitting around.
Q. How long after dinner was this?
A. Maybe an hour, or so.

And her testimony at Watson’s Trial:

Q: About what time did you have dinner?
A: I don't know, about the same time we had it every night, after dark.

Taken together it appears Manson approached Kasabian 2-3 hours after dinner started. The difference depends on whether, and if so, how long, Manson played guitar.

Next Kasabian needs to get a knife, her license and some cloths. Recall she had some problems with two of these tasks so add ten minutes for her to get into the car. Add five if it is preferred or even leave it out. I chose 10. 

The elapsed Time to arrive at Cielo Drive: 1 hour to drive from Spahn to Cielo + 1 hour for dinner + 1 hour later for Charlie to approach her +10 minutes to get her stuff = 3:10 Hours.

This becomes 4:10 if Manson held the jam session.

So now we have two scenarios: Dinner Only (3:10) and Jam Session (4:10).

According to Kasabian dinner started either after sunset or after dark. So the starting point is to figure out when these events happened.

Family Time

The Family didn’t use clocks or calendars. Their notion of time related to the sun. It comes up and it gets light. It goes down and it gets dark. A timeline requires a clock. So is there a way to convert Family time to clock time?

There is. It is called the Farmer’s Almanac. The Farmer’s Almanac was something my mother, a farm girl, lived by. She would tell you in March whether the corn would be any good that year because of the almanac. 

The Farmer’s Almanac tells us when the sun starts to set (sunset) and when it gets dark (dark descends). It also tells us when the sun begins to rise (dawn) and when it is fully light (sunrise).

According to the Farmer’s Almanac sunset occurred in Los Angeles on August 8, 1969 at 7:46 p.m. and dark descended at 9:20 p.m. Dawn on the 9th of August occurred at 4:37 a.m. and sunrise occurred at 6:11 a.m.


So at this point on August 8th we have:

Sunset: 7:46 p.m.
Dark: 9:20 p.m.

This is going to give us a way to convert ‘Family’ time as two witnesses testify below.

Based upon sunset and dark under the Dinner Only scenario and the elapsed time of 3:10. They arrive between 10:56 p.m. and 12:30 a.m.

Under the Jam Session scenario with its elapsed time of 4:10 they arrive between 11:56 p.m. and 1:30 a.m.

Taken together this places their arrival between 10:56 p.m. and 1:30 a.m.

Does the testimony narrow this range?

I can’t get past the use of the words “we had it [dinner] every night, after dark”. This seems to be a recurring event that stuck in Kasabian’s memory and is consistent with her more general statement ‘after sundown’. She never says ‘sunset’. 'After dark' seems to mean ‘after it is dark’.

It became dark that night at 9:20 p.m. so dinner was after 9:20 p.m. on August 8th and then they arrived at Cielo Drive sometime after either 12:30 a.m. (the Dinner Only scenario) or 1:30 a.m. (Jam Session).

Either scenario allows all the phone calls to be made. It also allows the Knott’s guests to comfortably leave and the Knotts to go to bed with no hippies lurking about and no downed phone lines. It also allows Mr. Ireland to stick to his original statement.

The First Tate Homicide Investigation report notes:

“Between 0100 and 0130 Mr. Ireland was awake, alert and watching the sleeping children. He heard a male voice from what seemed to him a long distance away to the north or northeast shout, 'Oh, God, no. Stop. Stop. Oh, God, no, don't'. Ireland said that the scream persisted for approximately 10 seconds. The male voice was clear and he did not notice an accent.”

At trial, presumably also after having spoken to someone at the DA‘s office in preparation for trial, Mr. Ireland changed his answer. He now places the screams at precisely 12:40 a.m. basing the change on what 'Mr. Sparks' told him regarding the time. This conversation with Mr. Sparks happened sometime after Ireland spoke to the police. Mr. Sparks did not testify.

And our two witnesses actually appear to agree with the later time.  

Kasabian at TLB [my comments]:

Q. About what time did you arrive at the place?
A. I don't know.
Q. Now, give me an approximation.
A. Maybe around the middle of the night. It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.
Q. Four or 5 hours after it became dark? [Her statement obviously threw Bugliosi.]
A. Yes. [Stop right here! Anything she says next is unreliable. She answered the question twice.]
_____________
Q. Now, when you say the middle of the night do you mean 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning or do you mean midnight? [Bugliosi suggests the answer by leading the witness. Also note the lawyer tactic: just like the leading question above he offers as an alternative to his desired response an absurd timeframe. This is intended to funnel the witness to midnight since 3:00 a.m. is too late even by Kasabian’s concept of time.]
MR.KANAREK: Compound, your Honor, leading and suggestive. [Kanarek realizes something is up but misses by making too many objections. Strike 1.]
MR.BUGLIOSI: It is not a compound question, it is one single question. [This is very good lawyering- a good tactic. He ignores the good objection, 'leading', and focuses on the ‘compound’ objection. Bugliosi is right the question is not compound. But he never addresses the ‘leading’ objection. The question is clearly leading he’s suggesting the answer in his question.]
MR.KANAREK: He is arguing with the witness, your Honor. [Kanarek fumbles the ball making a third objection. Strike Two]
THE COURT: Overruled. [Strike 3]
A. I cannot say a definite time because, as I said before, I had no concept of time when I was there. I would say roughly around midnight. [And Bugliosi leads a reluctant Kasabian to the answer he wants.]

Now before Bugliosi ‘helps’ Kasabian say ‘midnight’ she places their arrival 4-5 hours after dark. Dark was 9:20 p.m. So they arrive between 1:20 and 2:20 a.m.  

Remember the 4:15 Jam Session scenario above? If, in our Jam Session scenario, we have Charlie play guitar after dinner for a while. The 4-5 hours after dark timeframe is consistent with that scenario. The Jam Session scenario is also consistent with her unassisted recollection of the arrival time: they arrive 4-5 hours after dark or around 1:20 a.m.

Bugliosi leads Kasabian to the answer he wants at Watson's trial too. 

Q: Okay, about what time did you arrive at the gate at the top of the hill, approximately?
A: Time? I don't know.
Q: Well, was it 3:00 in the morning, midnight, eleven --
A: It was probably around midnight.

Again, look at Bugliosi's tactic he offers her two times that can't possibly be right and the one that he wants. The question is 'leading' only in this trial Mr. Bubrick doesn't object. 

Atkins, before she too is lead to the 'midnight' answer, appears to agree with Kasabian's original estimate:

Q: Do you know about what time you arrived at that residence?
A: I just know it was late at night. [Stop!]
__________
Q: Around midnight?  [Leading]
A: Possibly.  [This is not really the answer he wanted. He was looking for a ‘yes’.]

So here he is again leading Atkins to the time he wants but midnight does not appear to be completely consistent with her recollection. She answers ‘possibly’ even to his leading question. Her first impression was that it was ‘late at night’. ‘Late at night’ sounds a lot like Kasabian’s ‘the middle of the night’ which Kasabian further defines as 4-5 hours after dark or, again, after 1:20 a.m.

Leading questions are permissible before the Grand Jury. There is no judge present to rule on an objection and more to the point there is no opposing lawyer there to make the objection. 

It is easy to challenge Kasabian’s accuracy, in fact its one of my pet projects. But she has no reason to lie about the time. She doesn’t care about ‘time’ but Bugliosi does. You can almost hear her thinking ‘why does this matter’ when answering the questions.

What can be said is that the only person who testified that they arrived at midnight was Bugliosi. One might also ask why do they need to arrive at midnight? According to these two witnesses, they didn't.

The Other Bookend: Rudy Weber

A cook at the Brentwood Country Club calls LAPD and says Rudolf Weber saw the killers hosing off at his house on the night of the murders. On December 29, 1969 Bugliosi, a police photographer and Detective Calkins go to Weber’s house, interview him and take some pictures. Later that same day he is interviewed a second time by the LAPD and that interview is recorded. Weber later testifies that the hose event occurs at 1:00 a.m. thus putting the other bookend on Bugliosi’s timeline.

Weber’s house is about 4 minutes from Cielo Drive per Google Maps. So Bugliosi’s timeline is tight. He needs them to pull everything off by 12:56 and be back at the car ready to drive to Weber’s hose. The four minutes may not be right either. They at least drove past Weber’s house and then turned around and parked down the street walking back to the hose.

If Steven Parent is murdered a few minutes after 12:15 everything has to happen in less then 40 minutes. This might explain why Bugliosi didn’t want the clock to read 12:19. If that image is authentic then even under Bugliosi’s timetable Steven was shot sometime after 12:19- call it 12:25. Now he has less then 30 minutes.

Experience tells me anytime Bugliosi says a witness is going to be a very good witness I start to worry about the accuracy of what they say. In Helter Skelter he does just that:

“As I listened to Weber’s story, I knew he was going to be a good witness. He had an excellent memory, told exactly what he remembered, and didn’t try to fill in what he did not.” Bugliosi, Vincent; Curt Gentry. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (p. 249). W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

We don’t know what Bugliosi or Calkins said to Weber when they met that morning at Weber's house. We do know they parked their car in the same position as the murderers and took some pictures.

We also know what he told Detective Calkins later that afternoon (thanks to Cielodrive.com):

RUDOLF WEBER: Well, to the best of my recollection…we went to bed around 9 o’clock which is our usual bed time –
SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: Who…Who is we? excuse me.
RUDOLF WEBER: My wife and I.
SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: Would you identify your wife, please?
RUDOLF WEBER: Her name in Mila(?)
SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: Alright, thank you.
RUDOLF WEBER: We, uh – ‘cause I have to be at work at 6 o’clock in the morning. So, about – it must’ve been about 1 o’clock, I heard the uh, the sound of, running water.

Read this carefully: “We, uh – ‘cause I have to be at work at 6 o’clock in the morning. So, about – it must’ve been about 1 o’clock, I heard the uh, the sound of, running water.”

Why must it have been about 1:00? Because he went to bed at 9:00 p.m?


Or it must have been 1:00 because he went to work at 6:00 a.m.?

Why 'must' it have been 1:00 if he actually looked at his clock (as he later testified)? Wouldn't it be more consistent with human behavior to simply say 'It was about 1:00 a.m.'?

Or maybe it must have been 1:00 because that is what fit the timeline he had just learned about. Maybe it went something like this earlier that morning:


“Well these hippy types were using the hose there. It was the middle of the night. I’m not sure of the time. It was late.”

“Well we know they were over there at midnight and probably got here an hour later.”

“Well then it must have been about 1:00.”

Interestingly in this interview Weber doesn’t mention looking at his clock to confirm the time (something he says at trial) and while he briefly mentions his wife being present he doesn't mention his wife ever confronting the killers (again, something he says at trial- she, however does not testify because she has ‘emotional issues’). Bugliosi didn’t know Kasabian’s version of the events until after February 26, 1970 and Rudy's testimony by the trial corroborates Kasabian's recollection.

Rudy's trial testimony:

BUGLIOSI: Did anything unusual happen that night sir, after you went to bed?
WEBER: Well, it was about 1:00 o’clock in the morning, that would be Saturday morning.

Wait a minute! Bugliosi didn’t ask him the time. He asked him if something unusual happened after he went to bed. The answer is ‘yes’. Instead Weber offers up 1:00 a.m. before he is even asked.

Weber goes on to now explain that he looked at his clock (never mentioned on December 29th). 

Q: How did you know it was about 1:00 o'clock?
A: Because I looked at the clock.

 He then adds the confrontation between his wife and the killers and the whole sheriff’s deputy thing consitant with Kasabian’s story, but also seems to have slipped both his mind and Detective Calkins’ on December 29th when Weber was given the opportunity to offer the information.

SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: Alright. Now, at the time you followed these people down to the car, did any of them make any statements at all except the man?
RUDOLF WEBER: Well, after they started towards the car, nobody said anything.
SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: I see. Then what was the only statement the man made?
RUDOLF WEBER: Uh, he only said “Hi” and uh, “We’re just getting a drink of water, sorry to disturb you” and when I asked him, “Is that your car down the street?” he said, “No, we’re walking.”
SGT. ROBERT CALKINS: And that’s all that was said.
RUDOLF WEBER: That was all – all that was said that I can remember.


Bugliosi wanted a clock-based timeline that started at midnight and ended one hour later. He set out to prove his timeline. The testimony of the two most important witnesses, however, does not support his timeline. In fact the only person who ever says 'midnight' is Bugliosi. The evidence also suggests that someone may have gone so far as to directly or indirectly influence the testimony of at least two witnesses to make their stories fit the official narrative. 





Thursday, November 3, 2016

Joe Sage Linda Kasabian's former mentor






The article has been reformatted from this page of the Berkeley Barb.
The reporter or perhaps Joe Sage got the year when Linda came to him in Taos wrong, it of course should have read 1969.








Monday, October 31, 2016

The S. Tate Estate

When Sharon Tate was murdered on the night of August 8-9, 1969 she not only died a horrific death but she also died intestate, meaning that she died leaving no will. In an effort to remove his daughter’s estate from legal limbo  and begin the process of property distribution Tate’s father Paul Tate filed a Petition For Letters of Authorization with the Los Angeles Superior Court on December 8, 1969:





The breakdown of Tate’s financial situation is interesting. She possessed cash in the amount of $37,000 ($230,920.92 in 2016 dollars), motor vehicles worth $5,700 ($35,383.04 today), personal property worth $500 ($3,101.78) and an annual salary of $2,000 ($12,415.10), for a grand total worth of $45,400 ($281,822.84). (I found this surprising because I would have thought that she was worth a lot more. Especially in this age of astronomical salaries for entertainment figures the $2,000 ($12,415) annual salary for her work in television and movies seems a pittance.)

The main purpose of the Petition For Letters Of Authorization was so that Tate’s estate could be evaluated for distribution to deserving next-of-kin and others. One person who didn’t want any part of the late actress’ worth, however, was her widowered husband Roman Polanski. Both privately and in a letter dated February 1, 1970 Polanski made it clear to Paul Tate that he wanted no part of the estate of his late daughter. 



Not everyone, however, was content to let tragedy recede. Within a month of the murders, 10050 Cielo Drive owner Rudi Altobelli had resumed residence in the main house. On April 13, 1970 he filed a claim with the Superior Court of Los Angeles for monetary damages against the estate of Sharon Tate on the basis that Tate had not purchased $125,000 of public liability and property damage insurance as required by the lease agreement between the Polanskis and Altobelli. For this offense Altobelli requested relief for damages in the amount of $15,000 ($93,113.27 in 2016). A further claim was made due to the fact that the original lease stated that the premises could only be used as a single-family residence and that the presence of Frykowski and Folger on the property as full-time residents violated that portion of the lease and damaged him in the sum of “at least $30,000” ($186,226.65 today).





But Altobelli’s ex post facto irritation at the presence of Frykowski and Folger at his house seems opportunistic, because he almost certainly knew that the pair had been residing in his house almost as long as the Polanskis and therefore had would have had numerous opportunities to broach the subject with the latter if he had had real concerns about the situation. 

The Polanskis rented the house in early February 1969 but went to Europe in March. Voytek Frykowski and Abigail Folger were already living in the house at that time. At the time of the murders Altobelli must have known about the living situation in his house because he knew that Roman Polanski was already in Europe, and he obviously knew Sharon was on her way to Europe because she was seated next to him on the airplane when he himself went. And when Altobelli recounted to Vincent Bugliosi Charles Manson’s appearance at Cielo Drive on March 23, 1969 he recalled that Sharon, Jay Sebring, Frykowski, and Folger (whom he referred to familiarly as “Gibby”) were all present in the main house. (Altobelli and Sharon Tate flew to Europe the next day. He was still in Europe when the murders occurred. Sharon, very unfortunately, returned to Los Angeles and the Cielo Drive house on July 21.)


Altobelli lived in house for another twenty years after the murders, apparently unfazed by the slaughter that had occurred there. “It is a home,” he said during the murder trial. “It’s not going to be a tourist attraction or a freak show.”  Years later he recalled, “"I moved right back into the house three weeks after the murders happened. When I came back to that property, I felt safe, secure, loved and beauty." Eventually he was also likely unfazed by any financial damages he night have incurred due to Sharon Tate’s not obtaining public liability insurance and the presence of Voytek Frykowski and Abigail Folger as illegal house residents: Altobelli sold the house in 1989 for $1.6 million, 18 times what he paid for it ($86,000) in the early 1960s.  He died in Los Angeles on March 26, 2011.







Friday, October 28, 2016

Tex Watson Parole Denied

Tex has been denied parole and will not have another hearing for five years.  I don't think that anyone here expected him to be granted parole.

Article from the LA Times


2014 mugshot






Wednesday, October 26, 2016

BUTTHURT

We interrupt this Blog Post for an important article.  Tom O'Neill, a writer who fancies himself quite the expert on TLB, has written his second piece on Medium about the Tex Watson tapes.  As you read it, you find yourself trying to stay awake and focused.  What exactly is he concerned about?  Does he think that what Tex said to his lawyer in 1969 reverberates to the present day?  Does he think it blows up the Bugliosi myth of Helter Skelter that no one believes anyway?   Read closer and you quickly twig to what his problem is-

Tom is super BUTTHURT you guys because the DA promised him the tapes and they never gave it to him and that is SUPER UNFAIR.



Really, that is the entirety of what he writes.  He wants us to believe that what Debra thinks matters, that Sebring's nephew has some sort of standing in the case and that the LAPD really owes him man.

There are no unsolved Manson Murders.  These people couldn't shut their traps for 5 weeks much less 50 years.  No one is letting Tex out or Leslie or even Bobby.  It is all desperate attention seeking.

Tom is of course a talking head on all the bad TV shows who likes to discuss Charlie's secret Karate School.  He is also writing a book (his website says since 1999) but I was told by sources that his publisher has since pulled out.  When Tom was writing his book he was known for his heavy handedness, even going so far as demanding that Col Tate talk with him because....well who knows.   Back when Alisa and I were friendly she shared Tom stories that chilled me/  His entitlement knows no bounds.

I know he did interesting interviews with people like Melcher and Jakobsen.  But as long as he has this skewed perspective on the case I'm not sure what he has to say is interesting in any way.

Tex Watson led the most notorious murder spree of the 20th Century.  We will get a tweet from Cielo Drive dot com this week telling us he got his 17th parole denial.  And we may never get to hear what Tex said in 1969.



Doesn't change a goddamn thing.

CHARLES MANSON'S RIGHT HAND MAN IS UP FOR PAROLE - HERE'S WHAT TO WATCH FOR  (love the title, is this Tom's note to self?)

Five dead bodies, including the beautiful eight-and-half month pregnant actress and wife of a famous movie director. One-hundred-and-two stab wounds in total. “Pig” written in blood on the front door of the secluded estate high above Sunset Boulevard in the Hollywood Hills. The only sound heard by the arriving cops: insects buzzing over two victims’ bodies strewn across the front lawn. The next night, two more bodies across town: a grocery store magnate and his wife, similarly slaughtered. Sixty-seven stab wounds, more blood writing, the word “war” carved into the male victim’s abdomen, a fork and knife protruding from his bound and hooded corpse. Unsolved for four months, then the announcement of arrested suspects: a killer “hippie” cult, led by a barely literate ex-con who convinced his young followers he was Jesus Christ and the Devil. You’ve heard the story. You know the story.

Or do you? 


Yeah Tom we do. 





Monday, October 24, 2016

ACLU Charles Manson Martin Luther King Jr. Ad


Tell us your gut reaction upon seeing this ad.




Back in June 2000 the ACLU ran this ad in the New York Times Magazine and The New Yorker to raise awareness regarding racial profiling.  There was a psychological aspect to presenting the subject of racial profiling in this manner that involved getting the reader to read the small print and become sympathetic to the ACLU and hopefully contribute funds to that organization.



Monday, October 17, 2016

Answers or Excuses? A Self-Analysis from Tex Watson


"It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people; to focus your energy on answers- not excuses."
        - William Arthur Ward 


"He who is good at making excuses is seldom good at anything else."
        - Benjamin Franklin 


The Following excerpts come from Abounding Love- the website dedicated to the Ministries of Charles D. Watson.....

 
Why the Crimes?  Message From A Former Manson Family Member....

I was 23 years old in August of 1969, when I committed crimes that shocked the nation and sent shock waves around the world. I'm often asked to explain "why" these senseless crimes happened, the difficulty being to answer without justifying them. In an effort to be accountable, that is, responsible for my actions, I offer the following explanation. By no means do these exhaust the reasons, but possibly this will offer a few contributing factors that caused my actions....

OK, so I had never seen this on Tex's website before and I gotta be honest- that opening intrigued me just a bit, so I read it.  I figured that Tex was going to make all the usual nonsensical excuses, and he did. But, he also went a little deeper than just the using religion, and blaming Charlie stuff that you would expect. Today, let us take a look together. Here are a few of the ideas as to why Tex was able to become from a self- analysis written by Tex himself...

Note:All of these quotes were taken from his document. In most cases, I didn't reprint every quote he gave under each Main Idea, but these are the majority of them. Also, all religious quotes added after each Idea were given by Tex himself- that was not my touch. This was the exact format of Tex's document. He listed the specific Idea at top and then put a few quotes or sentences to support the idea under each one. Each supporting quote I selected for the respective Idea is reprinted is in its entirety. These are not parts of paragraphs. This is how he chose to do it...


Tex Did Not Listen To His Parents!    (Honor your father and mother - Ex 20:12a)

I'll never forget my parents standing in the living room begging me not to go to California. I said, " I am 21 and I am going,"  I had never stood up to my parents before in outright rebellion.

The crimes ended up bringing them to their knees, causing devastation, hurt, humiliation and much embarrassment. My siblings were left to hold them up from all the emotional pain, which I so deeply regret."

Tex Says He Suffers From 7 Deadly Sins!  (For the wages of sin is death - Rom 6:23)

It was pride exalting me above the Godly wisdom of my parents. I thought I knew it all. My needs were going to get met one way or another, I never had enough. I was a very lustful person seeking to fulfill my flesh and eyes. Drawn away and enticed by my own desire. Envy was present. longing for benefits enjoyed by others.

My fear of failure caused pent up anger in my heart.

Tex Got Separated From God!   (All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way- (Isa 53:6a)

These sins were the root and effect of my separation from God. I turned from my parents core beliefs and values, shucking off their accountability, thus breaking their hearts.

I was powerless over the effects of my sin, while trying to fill the void in my heart. Unable to control my thoughts and feelings, my life was without restraint, resulting in compulsive behavior.

With the Power of God's love and grace missing in my life, those deadly sins were free to rule, affecting not only myself, but everyone around me.

Tex Made Compulsive Choices!  (Choose this day whom you will serve - Jos.24:15a)

I made one compulsive choice after another beginning at puberty, drinking a beer at 14, and sex at 16 which led to a party life in College.  

Though I worked to save for college, I made foolish choices instead of studying, making the grade and being responsible. I chose to run with the wrong crowd, join a fraternity, have sex, move out West, drop out of College in California, get addicted to drugs and join the Manson Family.

The crimes were simply another impulsive choice while self medicating.

I had a choice to chose life or death. I chose death which brought a curse on a multitude of innocent people. As a result, it has spread to new generations, causing a seed of rebellion to grow.

Tex Lacked Knowledge!  (My people are destroyed because of lack of knowledge - Hos.4:6a)

The crimes were a result of my lack of knowledge. Today, I have the knowledge of the truth that sets one free of deception, the manipulation of others and my own flesh. I believed a lie, resulting in a trail of devastation. 

I was ignorant of so many core things. For instance, the real meaning of love, righteousness, peace and joy; the concept of how thoughts affect emotions, choices of behavior, the wholistic view who I am as a person and the power of right believing, were all things foreign to me.

Tex Was Emotionally Insecure!  (A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways- Jm.1:8)


I became an emotionally insecure person, not accountable to anyone. I was overcome with hurt, frustration, and insecurity. I felt that my significance is based on my importance. It seemed impossible to achieve what was being asked of me. The fear of failure possessed me, causing anger and the eventual murders.

Though my family was reserved when it came to showing affection, I was raised a gentleman. For example I would open the car door for my date. But under the surface I was hurting and fearful, which was the reason for drinking to medicate my pain.

Tex Was Radicalized!  (For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he- Pro.23:7)


When I met up with Manson, I was on a quest for personal significance that I never gained while trying to achieve the goals set for me by my parents. As a young man, I was experiencing an identity crisis. I wanted to matter to someone, to be respected in the eyes of others, to achieve, to earn a sense of value or self-esteem. 

I chose to be loyal to Manson's ideology as a means to attain this goal. I looked at him to bestow on me feelings of significance, instead of returning to my parents dreams in humiliation and failure. I justified violence, never finding my own individual path, nor fulfilling my own goals in life.

I shared a collective belief system with the Manson Family. The ideology seemed feasible as everyone believed it. I experienced a growing commitment to achieve due to group pressure.

Tex was Co-Dependent!  (There is a way that seems right to man, but it's end is the way to death - Pro.14:12)


I was suffering from the debilitating affects of "codependency". I looked for others people approval for a sense of worth and happiness, something that other people could truly not give me. Through peer pressure, I became willing to do anything for the approval of the Family. 

I gave myself to Manson's radical belief's, allowing him to make my decisions. Finally, I became willing to die for him, yielding my life as a sacrifice. I succumbed to his natural charisma, having no identity left of my own. I chose martyrdom behavior, giving my life for foolish beliefs.

Tex Took Drugs! (Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, be filled with the Holy spirit- Eph.5:18)


It was only 30 days before the murders when I took my first snort of speed, which was the other catalyst. I knew I couldn't carry out Manson's orders without speed., but for two years I already abused marijuana and hallucinogens. 

This allowed my conscious to be overridden so the crimes could be carried out. Still the girls ad I argued whether to go through with it for an hour while driving in the car to the crime scene, but we lost the battle of our minds. Life was not only over for them, but would never be the same for countless others because of my drug use.

On the speed, I became past feeling. But when we returned to the ranch after the crime, I felt my soul had died with the lives I had taken.  





Tex Has Final Words!

But I am going to have mine first ;)

If you listen to this jackass long enough you start to realize that he has been working, for a very long time, trying to figure out himself what the hell is wrong with him. Tex had a life that was much like my own and a hundred other guys I know who grew up in a small town. He had a nice family who owned a small business. He was a popular guy, who was good at sports and was able to go to college. He went through puberty like millions of other guys lol having beer and sex after 8'th grade is not unique. He seems to feel that after being a popular high school athlete, and belonging to a fraternity, The Manson family were the ones to make him feel feel pressure to be a certain way? That really doesn't make any sense. He also mentions having to be judged by accomplishments. Tex seems to feel that the rest of the world gets to play by some special rules. Every situation he explains is something that 90% of young men in America go through growing up. Charlie had a background you could make an argument led him down the wrong path. Not Tex. Sorry, I am not buying it. I have read Tex explain his childhood and teen years, in his own words, in two of his books. He paints a picture for me of a upbringing that was... Average to good.

Look, it takes a very special kind of scumbag to stab a woman in the final stages of pregnancy, and do what he did to those people. What kind of animal goes back for more? You would think he would have been, exhausted, in shock, or at least scared out of his mind after the first night. And this wasn't a shooting either. Bang and its over. This was torture by knife. Very personal and difficult way to kill people. It takes more time and you have to be up close and personal. You have to hear the sounds and see the carnage. If you ask any law enforcement person what the statistics are when a person is stabbed so many times so viciously, they will tell you 90% of the time it is a crime of passion or very personal, and the victim most likely knew the attacker. The struggle, the blood, the sounds of desperation, begging, and slow death. Tex did this to strangers, and then the bastard went back out, and did it again.

Tex doesn't seem to understand why himself if you ask me. He gives every sort of reason in the world and hopes that if he throws enough darts, maybe one or two will stick. The truth to me is, there is no understanding what he did. There is something wrong with him. Tex Watson is one of the scariest bastards on the planet. And what makes it worse, is that you never see a guy like this coming. His life was very normal. Charlie was an older, street talking con. If you weren't smart enough to see his jive, then shame on you. But Tex was the guy sitting next to you in math class. The guy on your baseball team. The one you never think twice about. He looks like one of us.

If you read enough of Tex Watson's site you will see one common theme. Forgiveness. He talks about it, and lists quote after quote about it. Even used the word in the title of one of his on-line books. Tex has made his whole life about forgiveness. To me that can never happen. And, even if Tex does deserve some sort of forgiveness, he sure doesn't get to announce that himself. Tex is a curiosity in a box. He is a life-long psychological study. He is not a human being to me. He knows he has nowhere else to turn, and so is trying to attach himself to God in hopes that can save him. I think that he can try as hard as he wants, but I bet not even God wants this deuche-bag around. But that is just my opinion. Even a Saint shouldn't speak for God ;)  In him I will trust.

But as advertised, I will let Tex have the final words...

There is truly no explanation for these senseless crimes. I understand people who say, "I don't want to hear it." I apologize for the deaths and pain I have caused due to my naive choices for which I take complete responsibility. I'm angry myself that something like these crimes could happen. Today, we hear of mass killings on a weekly basis. My heart is deeply saddened each time, seeing the wake of destruction left behind. What can we do? I have no answers other than God's Word, that says,

 "...if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land" (2 Chr. 7:14).

For the past decades, I've tried to make living amends to the lives I took and the futures that I destroyed in the 60s. I've humbled myself to God, surrendering my life to His will and purpose. I've taken authority over my life, allowing God's power, love and grace to heal, rule and reign in all that I do. I know I can't undo the past, but I do know that God's grace is sufficient for us, and His strength is made perfect in our weakness. So let the weak say, "I am strong!" (2 Cor. 12:9,10). 

God bless you all!

- Your Favorite Saint





Thursday, October 13, 2016

Parole Denied

I've just heard from Cielodrive, via email, that Bobby has been denied parole.  He will be able to have another hearing in three years.

There is nothing online yet about the decision.  I will update the post when something becomes available.

Update at CieloDrive.com

From the Associated Press which seems to have the most detailed article on the denial.