Monday, July 8, 2013

Marina Habe's Murder, Maury Terry

This article, written in 1988 was recently brought to our attention by one of our readers who goes by the name of Goomba.  It was written by Michael Bendrix whose father married Marina Habe's mother about three years after Marina's murder.  It is an interesting read as it touches on Maury Terry's "Ultimate Evil", on Terry himself, on the murder of Roy Radin and on the murder of Marina, the author's stepmother's only child.

"Marina Habe’s body was found on New Year’s Day, 1969, by a dog. The body had been tossed to the bottom of a ravine off Mulholland Drive, and when police arrived, the dog’s owner said he wanted to be sure his name got in the paper.

Every detail of Marina’s murder and the time on either side of it left some sliver of absurdity. She was 17, coming home alone late at night from a date, got to her driveway and then, as her mother watched from a window—awakened by the sound of a racing engine and not knowing whether the man standing beside her daughter’s car was friend or foe—disappeared into another car. The coroner said she was held for a day, fed, raped, and stabbed."

continue reading the story here-
http://www.lamag.com/features/1988/06/01/the-charlie-conspiracy/page/1





35 comments:

Panamint Patty said...

Only 17 and already a striking beauty. Patty has never seen nor heard this before.

Panamint Patty said...

In the article, the "Israeli with intelligence connections" was Ronald Stark. They are talking about the BEL.

Max Frost said...

Hey Patty,

I'm planning an off-topic article on her soon.

She actually had a very interesting life outside of her tragic demise.

orwhut said...

If the article is correct, Maurey Terry claims that an FBI operative was at dinner in San Francisco with Abigail Folger, Manson, and Shorty Shea in September 1967. That would mean Shorty and Charlie met before the family moved to Spahn in 68. Is there any other evidence of this?

Panamint Patty said...

That's a controversial one...

orwhut said...

I think I read about an earlier connection somewhere but, can't remember where. It may have even based on what Terry said.

Matt said...

This particular paragraph grabbed me:

The most frightened part of what Terry is suggesting, of course, is that most of the satanic groups that were actively involved in crime in the ‘70s are still in place and still active. Furthermore, he says, they have become increasingly involved in child pornography and cocaine distribution. He insists that police are aware of the organizations and often swap information with him, but they are slow to pick up on the vast threat posed by satanists.

Patty, have you ever smelled a connection between Satanists & BEL?

Panamint Patty said...

nope. Patty is of the opinion that all the Satanist talk is a relic of America's "Satanic Panic." It welled up during the 70s and was in full swing by the 80s when this article was written. When Patty was in high school, it was all the rage for ministers to play rock music backwards from the pulpit and imagine that there were subliminal satanic messages mixed in. Rob Halford got blamed for the Nightstalker at one point...

Panamint Patty said...

ps have you sent Patty's books back yet?

Doc Sierra said...

Panamint Patty said...

nope. Patty is of the opinion that all the Satanist talk is a relic of America's "Satanic Panic." It welled up during the 70s and was in full swing by the 80s when this article was written. When Patty was in high school, it was all the rage for ministers to play rock music backwards from the pulpit and imagine that there were subliminal satanic messages mixed in. Rob Halford got blamed for the Nightstalker at one point...
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When I lived in base housing at MCAS El Toro in back in the 80s one of my neighbors told me I should stop listening to AC/DC because it stood for Anti Christ/Devil's Children. Another guy told me I should stop going to Grateful Dead shows because his minister told him that they have Satanic faith healings backstage. The Satanic Panic was absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.
Yeah, the Rob Halford thing..... Those two kids heard the words "do it" and they committed suicide. How did they know that "do it" didn't mean get a haircut and get a job?.....

Panamint Patty said...

thanks Doc, Patty goofed on the Halford thing. it was so long ago. we r getting OLD LOL

Dooger said...

i thought the autopsy proved she was not raped- what is the real word on that?

Doc Sierra said...

Does anybody know how close Marina's body was to Jane Doe 59's body on Mulholland?

DebS said...

Doc Sierra said...
Does anybody know how close Marina's body was to Jane Doe 59's body on Mulholland?
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Jane Doe was found on Mulholland at the intersection of Laurel Canyon.

Marina was found on Mulholland 100 yards west of Bowmont.

On a map, it looks to me to be about two miles apart.

Doc Sierra said...

Thanks Deb.

HellzBellz said...

@Doc. Sierra & patty... You guys mix up two seperate things with the Judas Priest case. The song that might have inspired Ramirez called ,,NightCrawler,, its on the Defenders of the Faith album. But I do think its not true. The other case about the two young boys from Reno, who commited suicide,(1survived the shot in his Mouth,and lived another few years with a terrible deformed Face,but dies later from a pain medication overdose)that was the song ,,Better By You Better than Me,, And indeed there was a Lawsuit against Judas Priest because the Religious Fanatic Parents sayd there were messages in the Album ,,Stained Glass,, The Parents lost the Lawsuit. The Judge could NOT here the ,Do Its, in that song wich even isnt written by Judas Priest but its an old Spooky-Tooth song. If you are interested, there is a Docu about this case on YouTube called ,,Dream Decievers,, Now back to Manson.....I always wonder what the motif was , IF the Family murdered Maria Habe. Was she somewhat Important,or Dangerous to them/Charlie ???

Panamint Patty said...

anything heavy metal we should refer to you, Bellz. :)

J.J. said...

I agree with Patty about the whole "satanic panic" era. I was in High school when that was in full force. Still got somewhere the Synopsis from Civics (of all things) class telling the evils of all that bad music. Maybe that helped to make me a Rock and Roller. Also hits close to one of the other cases I have followed ever since the beginning. The West Memphis 3.

Heidi S said...

The Night Stalker, Ramirez, just died in prison. He was in his 50s. I always found him sooo scary.

Max Frost said...

I don't think they had anything to do with her murder. It's the convenient way for LAPD to not look like they have so many unsolved murders. Hey let's just blame it on Manson! Just like all the unsolved murders in the Bay Area: hey let's just blame em all on the zodiac!

Rob C said...

(The album was "Stained Class" and Judas Priest was acquitted of the two boys who committed suicide while listening to "Beyond the Realms..". "Defenders of the Faith" was from 1984.)
How many murders were there in LA (or Beverly Hills) in 1969? Maybe start there and work backwards towards Charlie.
Did anyone ever report Mr. LaBianca’s missing wallet?

orwhut said...

Heidi,
Thanks for the info. I didn't know he had died.
The Wikipedia article says he had received two serious head injuries in his youth. I've noticed serious blows to the head occurred to other serial killers too.

HellzBellz said...

Thankz patty,.. and yeah I know a lot about Metal kind of Music....RockMusic in general. Part of my life I guess... And @Heidi, Yeah He died about a month ago, and I hope it was a PainFull Death for him.

HellzBellz said...

@Rob...I know ,Defenders of the Faith was was from 84...and had nothing to do with those Reno boys. I was refering to the song NightCrawler, that said to inspire the NightStalker. Wich is not treu. The suicide issue was about Better By You Better than Me. Not about Beyond the Realms. In fact that was coincidence .

Rob C said...

(@Hellz: Ozzy was also accused of influencing a suicide via "Suicide Solution". Lawyer claimed "Shoot, shoot" was in the song and in "Paranoid": "I tell you to end your life" when the lyrics were actually "I tell you to enjoy your life, I wish I could but it's too late". "Nightcrawler" was from 1990. Rob Halford is a teddy bear and not Satanic. But this is off-topic.)

DebS said...

Max Frost said...
I don't think they had anything to do with her murder. It's the convenient way for LAPD to not look like they have so many unsolved murders. Hey let's just blame it on Manson! Just like all the unsolved murders in the Bay Area: hey let's just blame em all on the zodiac!
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I would agree with that. Marina was abducted at the very end of 1968 which was before things started going sideways with the Family. Also she had been away at college, in Hawaii, and was home for the Christmas holidays. Presumably the semester started in the fall of 1968, so would not have had any recent contact with the Family.

I'm not exactly certain where Manson and the others were around Christmas 1968. Some sources have Manson in the Reno area with Charlene Cafritz around that time.

goomba said...

I recall when the Satanic Panic was on all the TV talk shows in the 80s from the 700 Club to Gerlado. I especially remember the McMartin preschool case. From Wikipedia:

The McMartin preschool trial was a day care sexual abuse case of the 1980s. Members of the McMartin family, who operated a preschool in California, were charged with numerous acts of sexual abuse of children in their care. Accusations were made in 1983. Arrests and the pretrial investigation ran from 1984 to 1987, and the trial ran from 1987 to 1990. After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990. When the trial ended in 1990 it had been the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history. The case was part of day care sex abuse hysteria, a moral panic over alleged Satanic ritual abuse in the 1980s and early 1990s.

Doc Sierra said...

HellzBellz said...

@Rob...I know ,Defenders of the Faith was was from 84...and had nothing to do with those Reno boys. I was refering to the song NightCrawler, that said to inspire the NightStalker. Wich is not treu. The suicide issue was about Better By You Better than Me. Not about Beyond the Realms. In fact that was coincidence .
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The song that supposedly inspired Ramirez was Night Prowler off of 1979s Highway To Hell album, one of my favorite AC/DC albums. I saw them in concert several times in the late 70s. They were the opening act at a lot of Bay Area concerts that were produced by the late, great Bill Graham.

I lived in base housing at MCAS El Toro, in southern Orange County when Ramirez was active. The fear was palpable back then. I worked weekends as an xray tech at a minor emergency clinic called Emergi-Care Center on Oso Parkway in Mission Viejo. One of our patients, Carnes or Carns if I remember correctly was a victim. I don't remember this man but I looked in his chart and earlier that summer I had documented his vital signs so I must have had contact with him.

Diane Feinstein really showed here grand standing ass when she held a press conference and gave away Ramiriez's brand of shoes, which he promptly took to the Golden Gate Bridge and tossed them in the drink.

Ramirez not only had the head injuries but his uncle used to show him photos of mutilated bodies from his time in Vietnam. Ramirez also witnessed that same uncle murder his wife. I wonder if Ramirez actually made it to Disneyland.

beauders said...

manson also attended a 68/69 new years party at john and michelle Phillips house in Beverly hills.

Jenn said...

Deb:
"Jane Doe was found on Mulholland at the intersection of Laurel Canyon.

Marina was found on Mulholland 100 yards west of Bowmont.

On a map, it looks to me to be about two miles apart."

It seems shorter than than in person, but I'm sure the map is correct!

Jenn

HellzBellz said...
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HellzBellz said...

@Rob.....my Bad,NightCrawler is indeed from 1990. The Painkiller Album... sorrie. @ Doc, you right about the AC DC thing and Ramirez. Did read about that. But now On Topic again, stumbled on this while researching Miss Cafritz. Some interesting Pics http://youre-guilty-until-proven-innocent.blogspot.nl/ some I never have seen... especially foto Number 41,...but okay, I am a lil ,Blue, in this Manson Saga. And Far Far away from it. So you USA guys might have seen them all before somewhere.

Aaron said...

There is more info about the Shea/Folger/Manson connection in The Ultimate Evil

barbara said...

I was with Maury in California, we met Marina's family and reopened her case, unfortunately, for all of you we succeeded but you will never get to read his second book.
Maury died before the second book was completed, I wish I could tell the world what was in it, but I promised him I wouldn't.
My name is Barbara, and I loved him very much!
Read acknowledgement

barbara said...

I was with Maur in California well after book 1. We met Marina's family and reopened the case and Maur solved it. Unfortunately, no one will ever read book 2, I wish I could tell the world but I can't. Since Maur died of course it's the families decision.
My name is Barbara and I loved him very much!
I'm sorry none of you will know how honest, loving, and brilliant he was.