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TMZ has been right on, so far, I tend to believe this because it sounds logical considering Manson's age. Thanks Saint!
I fear the countdown is on... in some ways- its good I am going to be around this weekend... I feel the end of an era coming
As with anyone good or bad, I hope the transition (whenever it comes) is easy on him.
Yeah- I am with you... Do not want to see ANYONE suffer
TMZ said.....Sources familiar with the situation tell us Are these sources inside the hospital? Or are they standing out in the parking lot like their last Manson information source, Matthew Roberts?
How would Roberts know? Do they even let him in to see him?!? That would be crazy.
If this is indeed the end. Geraldo: "How do you feel that you're going to die in prison"?Well, he's not :)Charlie also outlived everyone who prosecuted him. Morons are using the word "karma" a lot now. With his outlaw lifestyle, I would say Charlie had the best karma of any man who lived. He beat death row. He survived burning, poison and other attempts on his life and survived nearly half a century in prison, which would have killed most others. Plain and simple, he won.You can't believe in karma unless it's all across the board. So why did he outlive nearly all the others?
NY Post now reporting too:Manson initially told doctors that he didn’t want them to perform the operation shortly after his arrival at the medical facility, the website said.Then he changed his mind and agreed to the surgery, but doctors ultimately decided that his weak condition was potentially life-threatening and canceled the procedure.Doctors were mulling what to do next with their infamous patient.The Post on Wednesday exclusively reported that Manson was first taken to the hospital for treatment months ago, indicating that he has been battling illness for some time.
Suze said...How would Roberts know? I would hope that they're using other sources than him now. But all signs point to him being the original source to TMZ of Manson being hospitalized.
Thanks Ziggy. That would explain a lot and doesn't surprise me at all.
Look at this dipshit :Matthew Roberts posing for pictures in front of his "Dad's" hospital in an "exclusive" interview with the Daily Mail"exclusive" usually means $.
Was there a ceremonial helicopter fly by?
Rippercast said...Did the blog mention William Garretson passing away over the summer?We heard. Post to follow.
Thanks. I was having technical difficulties and deleted my post to try again. Glad you caught it.JM
Roberts has said publicly they wont tell him anything and is on record saying as much.Why would TMZ then pay him for information?He has no information because he is a freak who showed up at Hospital and is probably being watched as we speak..TMZ does have money- and will use it- and that is why they usually are right
I know someone who works in the OR of a major Hospital in Miami...There was a case years ago of a guy who got his face eaten by a dude whacked out on synthetic pot.. Crazy news at the time. Three people got fired from her Hospital for taking pics of victim and emailing that he was there...Leaks happen. But they are not giving Matthew Roberts private briefings and maybe he was first one to tel them Charlie was there- but he is no longer significant.
Roberts is most likely trying to sell stories for his dope habit.
Other Daily Mail exclusives, courtesy of Matthew Roberts :The son of Charles Manson says his father is trying to smuggle sperm out of prison to get his bride Afton Elaine Burton pregnantEXCLUSIVE: Charles Manson's 26-year-old bride is 'an opportunistic pariah' simply interested in his hidden fortune, says his son, a musician whose mother was raped by the imprisoned serial killer, 80'It's like finding out Hitler is your dad': DJ Matthew Roberts tracks down long-lost father... but discovers he's Charles MansonThe role he was born to play? Charles Manson's 'son' depicts his killer father in bizarre performance art mock retrial staged in LA galleryTMZ also did a story a on the "art mock retrial", a week before the Daily Mail :Charles Manson's Son: I'll Prove My Dad's Innocence
Not to be negative lolNo way on Earth they gave Matthew Roberts the information in that report. No Way..Did TMZ just take his word for it, or pay someone else? did they Vett him at all?I believe they got it very close to right
I think they got tip from Him- MAYBE- but once they locked in on location- they went for much bigger fish....Roberts is trying hard to maintain some last chance at attention or money or whatever else that he has. But those people are way smarter than to stake the reputation on anything he says. A simple google search shows he is a fraud in general and not allowed in communication specifically.
Actually- I think Matthew Roberts had nothing to do with this at all...expo facto... he learned like we did and then got in middle. I would be surprised if he was informed at all
Manson was marketed to kids in the 1990s as a folk hero. Manson t shirts were everywhere. He was on the covers of magazines. People loved watching his parole hearings. Maybe he got a few people interested in environmental conservation and ecology. That's a positive. As a kid I bought into to crap of him being a misunderstood environmentalist. As I aged and learned self respect I started to realize that he was just a pimp, pedophile, and bullshit artist. The hills of Chatsworth are still littered with old car parts. Hopefully some of his fans took the conservation and kindness to animal messages to heart. When I think of certain types of guys, like one that posts here, I want Manson dead. Guys that like him because he's a racist, woman beating, pedophile, pimp. There are a lot environmental conservationists and scientists who don't beat women. I'd feel more compassion if his present day fans weren't such garbage. They don't even make sense. They have far right politics, but Manson lived a communal lifestyle. It was more Stalinist, not Trotsky though. For all the ranting the of the far right fans on politics, they need to check their similarities to Stalin. Women as incubators to grow the population etc. We all grew up with him as a celebrity of sorts.
Ziggy would I be presumptive in assuming that you have an opinion?
I'm waiting for St C to finish. lol
Saint, I'm not saying Matthew gave them the info in that article. And there really isn't much info in that article other than "Manson remains at the hospital".I said in the other thread that I don't think that they'd be giving any info out on Manson due to security reasons. I highly doubt that they'd give a freak like Matthew any information. All of this "Manson is dying" hysteria started when someone tipped off TMZ to the fact that Manson was in the hospital. It turned out that he had been going there for months for treatment for his condition. So where does that leaves us? He's finally gonna die now because we know that he's there, even though when he'd been there before (when we didn't know) he didn't die? We're so vain.
Of course, it could be Matthew Roberts' spirit energy waves/psychic connection/metaphysical graffiti karma that's keeping Manson alive, now that Matthew knows. I don't rule that out.
lol I gotcha and think you are right... first one anyway ;)
St C - Let me ask you, in relation to you what you said about the "face eaten" guy. Do you think that TMZ had a source at the Bakersfield hospital before this news broke? I've heard that TMZ has sources at hospitals, but I was thinking that it was more likely LA, New York, London, Paris, more metropolitan, cosmopolitan areas. But Bakersfield?!?!
I really - honestly have no idea...But my guess-They found out where he was from "X" whatever variable- then found and paid someone to get what little info they have
I personally hate to rely on TMZ lol But they have not been wrong- yet...
they get inside stuff on sports too though and you would think they cant penetrate that...money has a funny way of playing with people. Snoopy bastards with resources are able to do some things that Scary looking guys claiming to be the son of Charles Manson are not lolThat was sort of my thinking - but I might be wrong as hell- i honestly do not know what is going on
And I want to state for record that I have never been to Bakersfield and only heard it smells funny in a movie:)
By the way- you cant make this stuff up...On May 26, a cannibalistic ambush, one now entered into modern lore as a “zombie-like attack,” occurred on a Miami bridge that sent the southern city — and indeed, the nation — into a frenzy.Rudy Eugene, seemingly crazed and stark naked, attacked homeless man Ronald Poppo, biting off pieces of his face and ripping out his eyes underneath an overpass on the MacArthur Causeway. The vicious attack, which was partially caught on a nearby surveillance camera, shocked viewers because of its randomness and gruesomeness. Eugene, 31, was shot dead by police at the scene, while Poppo was rushed to the hospital with much of his face torn off by the so-called Causeway Cannibal.But after two months of recovery, the 65-year-old Poppo was healed enough to tell his side of the story. “He just ripped me to ribbons. He chewed up my face. He plucked out my eyes,” Poppo told Miami officers on July 19 in a recording that was provided to CBS Miami on Wednesday. “He mashed my face into the sidewalk. My face is all bent and mashed up. My eyes, my eyes got plucked out. He was strangling me in wrestling holds at the same time he was plucking my eyes out.”Poppo survived the attack but is now blind and disfigured. In a recently released recording, Poppo spoke to Miami officers about the attack, telling them Eugene attacked him without provocation or explanation. “What can provoke an attack of that type?” he asked. “I certainly didn’t curse at the guy or say anything mean or nasty to him.”In fact, the mauling began with creepy tinges of romance. Poppo said Eugene approached him with the words “You’re going to be my wife, and this is going to be a lover’s concerto,” while singing the 1960s song “Lover’s Concerto.”“For a very short amount of time, I thought he was a good guy,” Poppo said. “For a while he was acting nice. Then he got flustered” and “turned berserk.”This victims pics and status ended up being leaked regularly and it was a very big story here- it happens...
rest time- back soon... its going to be long night and weekend
I pray for a peaceful ending to a sad and chaotic life.
If the info is accurate, it sounds like they're trying to keep him alive. Which will disappoint a lot of people.The ending of the article sounds kinda dumb : "doctors are trying to figure out their next move". I wonder if this article written by that blonde haired surfer dude at TMZ? (I don't know his name)
I've got the 2-3pm window for Saturday afternoon in our Manson Death Pool. As a longtime Tate-LaBianca student I feel like Charlie owes me this payout. I'll even donate 10% to ATWA. How reasonable is that?
Zelda, that's a bad bet. Haven't you heard the news? : "doctors are trying to figure out their next move". If that isn't indication that Charlie's health is in good hands, then I don't know what is.
St Circumstance just e mailed me to say this :from firstname.lastname@example.org "If I were a doctor in Bakersfield, my next move would be to civilization."
Sorry folks. The story ain't over. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manson-returned-to-prison20170106-story.html
prefeteria said...Sorry folks. The story ain't overGhouls ! Ghouls !! Are we vultures or are we ghouls ?
I thought Roberts was given a DNA test that EXCLUDED him from being Manson's son. Why does he keep saying he is his son? Just because he has brown hair, brown eyes and a beard doesn't make him Charles Manson's son. Annoying!
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