Monday, February 7, 2022

Bill Nelson Part Two - Sexy Sadie What Have You Done?


Susan Atkins with her parents and brothers mid-1950's

We will never see another Manson researcher like Bill Nelson. His run was the greatest of all and his destruction was magnificent. Scraps of Nelson's work remains online today via the Wayback Machine. Grab what you like before it's gone. Nelson is fading from Manson history. 
 
Now is the only time that's real.

If you are new or newish and think you'll find the key to fame and fortune hidden within the fetid mountains of malarkey hundreds of curious people have already dug through, wear gloves that reach the elbows, believe only what you can verify, and view Mr. Nelson as a cautionary tale. 

Horny, self-righteous, and connected to EVERYONE at one time or another, Nelson died in 2005. In the late 90's, Bill might've thought Sadie would hang on the line for a few years while he giggled and snickered his way through sex rumors of the past. 

No, sir. Sadie's husband stepped in and said, "I challenge you to a duel at dawn. Pistols." 

More like hey leave my wife alone. But a duel would be sweet. 

I wonder how Nelson's wife felt about the nightgown Bill sent Sadie? Was she "thrilled?" Mrs. Nelson did not know her husband craved iron bars and black and white photos of teenage slippies until it was too late. And plus she aged. Nelson liked chicken nuggets way more than hens.   

Sadie ghosted him and he published his breakup letter online. I'm back in good graces with my wife now and enriched from selling my rantings and lies to Aes-Nihil and the Colonel yakety yack. 

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Dear Susan Atkins,

I have left the case behind me, no longer interested in the Manson saga of murder, deceptions, deceit, and demonology. My web site was taken down on January 23, 2000. I sold off my vast library. After 11 years, I have reclaimed my life and my wife is thrilled. Sandra Good with her live-in loony St. George (named after the street that intersects at the LaBianca house?) pulled out all the stops to destroy me, defame me, and ruin my reputation.

You and I spent some nine plus hours together. We shared, laughed, and you cried. We called one another "Brother" and "Sister" in a bond of love and respect. I sent you several letters after your husband James decided that we should not see each other. They went unanswered. I understand.

I have sold several copies of your 12-28-00-parole hearing. It was such a disgrace! There were so many lies told by James regarding you. I was saddened to hear him even quote the deceased Patti Tate that you have progressed very well inside prison – but he neglected to add: "And right here is where she should spend the rest of her life!" He said none of the murders were done in an execution style. That is a lie. You should have heard the response of Dianne Lake (a really mature Christian in adult life) upon hearing that one. He bragged that you were never an alcoholic, but your records tell a different story. So did your book. He cited the "family" you had been living with as a proof of stability at the time of the crimes. Did you see the reaction of Stephen Kay at that one? Bragging that you had a stable family relationship i.e. the Manson Family? How insulting indeed. You killed because you were under such stress? Really now. Barbara Hoyt, who knew you well, says you were an evangelist for Manson in the same way that you are now for Jesus. It would take hours to cover all of the deception. You never missed much time from work assignments but then you were on medical disability for many months before the hearing. And…the most egregious action was your turning your back on Janet Parent when she identified herself. To think that James and you worked hard to keep her from voicing her opinion because you did not "actually kill Steven Parent" was quite unchristian. I could go on and on about that dreadful performance at your hearing by a tag team that would make the World Wide Wrestling Federation take lessons.

Remember your telling me the "new rendition" of the crimes? How Tex kicked you out of the Tate house in an argument and you were outside of the house when HE stabbed Sharon to death? Where was that rendition during your last hearing? It was not told because it simply was not true.

I am offended at your use of God while you continue to lie. How refreshing it would be to hear just one of you killers actually tell the truth. Not Bruce Davis, Charles Watson, Leslie, Pat, or you have ever told the full truth. You get three meals a day, medical treatment, dental, psyche, exercise, marriage, and you have done quite well by all of that. When you miss those warm and cuddly conjugal visits with James, think of Doris Tate and me. November 1, 1996 was the change in policy by the CDC. Thank God! It should never have been allowed for people who kill.

Your hearing was so uninteresting that Court TV did not even broadcast it. All of the money they invested, and they chose to take a pass. You see Susan, James was simply a boring, miserable failure. You want to know a little secret? That over weight Commissioner was the same person who voted to give Bruce M. Davis a release last year. That is right. Bruce got a yes vote, and the other two commissioners said that this year, they might agree. Manny left the BPT to become a police chief once again, so he will not be able to spring Bruce free. But! Bruce will walk very soon and he MAY start the killing again. He was involved in the Zodiac murders and I will take that evidence, my findings, and 11 years of research to my grave. When you admitted that you helped to cover up any blood evidence where Shorty was murdered, you gave us something that no one had put together before. You were personally involved with EVERY MURDER prosecuted. Gary Hinman, Tate/LaBianca and Shorty. Wow Susan! That is a really heavy thought. When you took Bugliosi to the back of the ranch by the stream, it was because that is where Shorty was killed. You know what Clem, Bruce, and Manson say? "We were driving down Santa Susanna Pass in the middle of the day when Shorty was hit over the head and they drug him from the car…" Barbara Hoyt submitted a letter refuting that alteration of the court record but the BPT buried her letter in the confidential section of the C-File for Davis. They did not even allow it read into evidence. So much for Perjury prosecutions in the Manson family, because the BPT does not care about TRUTH. These over paid, no nothing bureaucrats do not have a clue and none of you will tell them the truth, not even in the Name of Jesus.

Good bye my friend. I enjoyed our meetings. I never betrayed you following our visits, despite the lying tongue of Linda Mann and that other crazy lady who comes out to tape the hearings. I wish you Christian conviction – the conviction to finally speak up and tell the truth. And Susan, what was that about you being the only one to make restitution to any of the victim’s families financially? Please provide the proof for that one, because it just is not so. You gave nothing financially to Doris, I would be surprised if you gave any to Patti since she would have called it blood money and after all she turned down $50,000 from Guns and Roses. I know you gave nothing to the LaBianca family. It is for certain that you gave nothing to Janet Parent. Shorty has no relatives, and Gary Hinman’s mom and dad have passed away.

As I go - - - - Gypsy let me know in 1993 that she and you had been swimming at the Tate house before the murders, driving up there in the sports car of Dennis Wilson. Bugliosi asked Terry Melcher to confirm it or deny it….Terry told Mr. B. that it was true. I guess you forgot that interesting tidbit when we met for 9 plus hours and in subsequent letters.

Please do not continue to name Jesus as your redeemer when you refuse to tell the truth. You may be Born Again, it is not for me to judge, but you defame the name of Jesus by your misrepresentations. And no, I have no interest in hearing from little James. You traded in Manson for another control freak. The people who have seen the parole hearing tape have observed that. A little, condescending man like Charlie, hurtful, crude and so uninformed.

Sincerely,

Bill Nelson

04-24-01



be but my sworn love 
and I'll no longer be a Capulet Manson investigator.

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Imagine being a convicted sex offender, the charges involved minors, and making it your mission to remove conjugal visits for prisoners. Bill Nelson's mind was a dark place. +ggw


25 comments:

George Stimson said...

Ah, a flash from the past. Thanks!

G. Greene-Whyte said...

Thanks, George. Magnificent isn't a strong enough adjective for his destruction. 'Twas truly a highlight on the awful "research" timeline that defines this study.

Good morning from Ohio.

Jay said...

I just recently got back into studying this case, so you have to forgive any errors I might make. I stopped reading about/ watching anything to do with this case until about a year or so ago. I had thought that there wasn’t really anything new that had come up. That being said:
Where can I find some of Nelson’s rantings. I like to read some of the way off base stuff, as well as the ‘good’ information. It looks like he was desperately trying to have Davis be the Zodiac. He seems like a real nut to say the least. He sent Sadie/Susan a nightgown?
There is such a large amount of materials that I hadn’t even know about- websites, blogs, books, docs. I’d love to hear about any recommendations.

Dan S said...

Zodiac. Swimming at Cielo. 9 hours. Scream dreamer Hoyt hears a who

starviego said...

"Gypsy let me know in 1993 that she and you had been swimming at the Tate house before the murders... Bugliosi asked Terry Melcher to confirm it or deny it…. Terry told Mr. B. that it was true."

Is this true?

starviego said...


Jay said...
Where can I find some of Nelson’s rantings?

web.archive.org/web/20140208000650/http://truthontatelabianca.com/forums/bill-nelson.197/

Credit to Tab.

grimtraveller said...

starviego said:

Is this true?

As true as the rumour that you were the actual pool šŸŠšŸ½ cleaner šŸ§œšŸ½‍♂️ at Cielo !

ColScott said...

For the avoidance of doubt Nellie sold his whole collection to AesNihil. Not me

Nellie was a sick twisted fuck who didn't even know how to use spell check


Answer to a question from GW on a previous thread- the Manson film didn't happen for a lot of reasons, 9/11 being a big one. Bobby didn't so much as outright "lie" as much as tšŸ’•h elonger we got to know him (weekly calls for almost three years) the more it was clear he was full of it. Key facts of his story were just bullshit, clear and obvious bullshit and we slowly phased him out. It is clear to any real researcher that NONE of these people are truthful anymore. They all maybe have forgotten what the truth even was!

Answer to another question from an earlier thread- It is clearly the right vest, you can see Kitty sewing it in news footage on the corner back in the day. My understanding was that it was with Bobby's effects and later went to Barbara. Barbara started to "finish" it and we freaked out - because the unfinished Manson girl version was cooler imo. At the end of the day though it was just another Bobby manipulation- we agreed to 5k and before he sent it had to pay twice that. But hey, history .

why this weird memory lane about Nellie- he has been gone a long long time, like Karen McCoy Monticillo and so many others from the days of the boards. GORIGHTLY!

ColScott said...

Hey Grim

Looking back I treated you badly for some time.
I think I apologized but in case I didn't do a good enought job
I'm sorry
You are smart, insightful and deserve better than shit from me
Sorry

G. Greene-Whyte said...

Oh wow. I've read so many of the Col and Grim's comments on this blog. Marking out a little bit tbh.

Col - The core group of the blog knows so much more than me it's ridiculous. A lot of the time I'm writing hoping to learn more in the comments.

But at the same time people email me and say hey I'm new to all of this what's the story with blah blah blah. So I'm kind of trying to create a half-assed library of sorts here for noobs. True crime is huge and not going away. Imagine being in your early 20's and arriving here now.

And I like the characters more than the whys too I think. And the pop culture. Basically every part of this except the two nights so many others focus on.

G. Greene-Whyte said...

I basically want to talk about Manson with people without them explaining it to me.

G. Greene-Whyte said...

*Without them explaining it to me in an insane way.

Terrapin said...

Hey Col.. any chance the film could ever be made? i can't imagine have much stuff you must have had going into pre-production

also did i miss your final word on RH?

Terrapin said...

On the subject of Bill Nelson i think him and Stephen Kay have a lot in common

G. Greene-Whyte said...

Terrapin - Please explain.

Jay said...

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

grimtraveller said...

ColScott said:

Hey Grim

Looking back I treated you badly for some time.
I think I apologized but in case I didn't do a good enought job
I'm sorry
You are smart, insightful and deserve better than shit from me
Sorry


That's OK.
I've always thought your contribution was pretty gilt-edged. I liked the banter, to be honest.

ColScott said...

Terrapin- it could be made but I don't know if I have the energy anymore....I do think you could do a 5 season TV series I kind of broke that down at one point. The Trial was season four.

I don't think I did the Last word on Robert.

You see I remain depressed about this subject. I really wanted to know WHY this all happened and now that BUG is dead for years and O'Neill shat the bed I am convinced we will never know.

Thanks Grim. Classy.

Terrapin said...

G. Greene-Whyte said...

Terrapin - Please explain.


I think Kay's grudge stemmed from him being jealous of the sex/drugs lifestyle of the Family. a lifestyle he would never be 'cool enough' to be a part of. Also he went out on a date with Sandy once.. i'm assuming it was her that broke it off. it must have hurt knowing that a girl who rejected you is now getting ploughed by anyone and everyone

Dan S said...

That's the movie: ythe bullet i dodged my s kay, taken by stimson

Dan S said...

"By" not "my" s Kay

Terrapin said...

Blogger ColScott said...

Terrapin- it could be made but I don't know if I have the energy anymore...


Would you ever wite a book instead..?

Penny lane said...

WTF...an apology...are you getting your affairs in order ?.I shouldn't be flippant tho..it's a beautiful thing to see after all these years...And Grim he's right you are classy ..

G. Greene-Whyte said...

Hawthorne would be an incredible film.

Matt said...


Penny lane said...
WTF...an apology...are you getting your affairs in order ?.


PL, that was my first thought. LOL