Monday, September 1, 2025

The Mystery of Spahn Ranch - Part 1


 

18 comments:

SixtiesRockRules! said...

Was this video done by that "Allegra Lansing" person? I'm familiar with her work and I have to say I don't hold it in high regard.

Loegria15 said...

Yes, it is. I feel unsure of her too.

tobiasragg said...

Oh lord, why bother with this podcaster here? She puts out such garbage. Have you read her book? It's ridiculous. Manson and the three girls were sentenced to die in the electric chair, according to Ms. Lansing early in the book. Things go downhill from there. This "mystery man" was proven to be a hoax quite a while back and I recall an apology video from the vlogger. Waste of time.

shoegazer said...

All of the negatives about the interview may be true (I don't know), but the content of the interview--the responses--seemed genuine and authentic.

Can anyone point to anything in the responses that seems either synthesized or otherwise non-authentic?

shoegazer said...

"interviewer" instead of "interview"

shoegazer said...

E.g, does anyone know about the physical description of the "outlaw shacks" and their location? I've never heard of them--but I've never looked at Spahn very much, just the route from thereto Cielo & back.

Dan S said...

Tex was relegated to those shacks and longed to be called up to the big house for the real orgies.

orwhut said...

Ed Sanders mentions the outlaw shacks six times in my Kindle edition of "The Family" . Ed doesn't tell where he got enough of his information to suit me, but still, I found the book to be very entertaining. ooo-eee-ooo

Matt said...

https://www.mansonblog.com/2015/11/looking-for-back-ranch-house-and-outlaw.html

shoegazer said...

Well, so far no specific criticisms of factual inaccuracies.

Drifting a bit, it recently occurred to me that of all of the colorful anecdotes a

shoegazer said...

...about life on the ranch, I never have heard any mention of dogs. Now, big ole friendly dogs were a HUGE part of the youthful ethos of th

shoegazer said...

...that era. I knew, having gotten a couple myself. Does anyone know if there were dogs present there at Spahn, and if not, why not?

orwhut said...

Ed Sanders mentions the dogs being allowed to eat before the women twice.

orwhut said...

One of the dogs was named Tom.

Mr. Humphrat said...

One thing I was wondering was why Mr. X was remaining anonymous in the interview while revealing what I guess were the names of the others who lived with him there, one being his wife or at least the mother of his child.
The other question that occurred to me was whether or not Sadie's child was in fact in a hospital in Ventura.
And could his modified bread truck have been the same as the one Charlie was driving around, if in fact he's telling the truth?
I wasn't clear on whether he was saying he had intimate relations with Lynn or just hung out with her.
Based on the things he says in the one video (part 1) it's hard for me to form an opinion on his authenticity.
I thought there might have been a post about the people who lived in the outlaw shacks or some other part of the ranch.

Mr. Humphrat said...

Another comment: He said he was a Monterey Pop Festival in June 67. Looking at Wikipedia list of all the acts who performed there, only three or four acts were smaller named acts and none of them came from the L.A. area. Wasn't sure if he was just a spectator, because he mentioned it in conjunction with his band experience.

Mr. Humphrat said...

And somewhere I read about another group of hippies who lived on the ranch that at some point Charlie decided they should run off the place.

CieloDrive.com said...

There was a dog in the paddy wagon with the girls when they were arrested during the Spahn Raid