As one of the foremost TLB researchers in the world, the Col feels it incumbent upon him to read everything published. Because ya never know. I really enjoyed the Jay Sebring documentary CUTTING TO THE TRUTH by Anthony DiMaria and reviewed it during the pandemic on this very blog. So I came to the new book JAY SEBRING : CUTTING TO THE TRUTH with very positive vibes.Because of poor layout the book is a whopping 547 pages. I popped for the softcover version which was still a whopping $25.00. It's not a self published book but I have never heard of Genius Book Publishing just like they have never heard of layout software or editors. The book is credited to Marshall Terrill and Anthony DiMaria. It's fascinating that DiMaria is second.
Wikipedia credits Terrill as :Marshall Terrill (born December 17, 1963) is an American author and journalist, noted for numerous detailed biographies of Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash, Billy Graham, Pete Maravich, and Jay Sebring. When I found this just now it crystallized the problem I had with the book, or one of the two. The book, much more than the movie, is trying to convince us of two things. First, that Jay should be mentioned in the same breath of many of the greats, as in the Wikipedia entry. And also he was a great guy who laid a lot of great looking women.
I've had the privilege of reading a screenplay about Shorty Shea that the great Deb S took part in creating. It is well written, informative and I enjoyed it A LOT- more than some scripts I've read before that got made. Bu the problem is that the most interesting thing that happened to Shorty Shea was that he was murdered by The Family. Don't take that as a slight- if you took my life and made it into a biopic the interest would wane after eight minutes. I'm not that interesting. Neither, I hate to break it to you, are you. That is why the best biopics focus on a period in time not someone's whole life. But a biographical book has to encompass the whole life of the subject. And though there is little doubt that Sebring likely would have had an interesting life, he was murdered in his mid 30s and is remembered, if at all, as a TLB victim.
Yes, he pioneered men's hair styling and that isn't nothing. DiMaria gives him heavy credit for that, but I am not sure that the history reflects this. Because he was good looking, albeit very short, he was able to parlay that into celebrity. Had he lived he was on his way to the fame and wealth the Vidal Sassoon eventually obtained, no doubt. But I mean, let's face it- Sharon Tate was a gorgeous woman, not the best actress. She would be the equivalent of Barbara Feldon today, once beautiful, a few roles, and a nice old lady forgotten for the most part and enjoying life. Sharon is remembered now only for having been slaughtered.
Background : First you should know that in 1985 I was in the USC Library Special collections looking at the clippings file on both Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski. I had been in LA 3 months, tops, but my TLB knowledge desired more. By sheer fate, as I was reviewing it a student came to ask to share it. He introduced himself as Sebring's nephew. I thought, "Fuck, welcome to Los Angeles." I shared the files, we talked a bit, I shared what I knew and noted that his Uncle, who he didn't know, was reported to be majority kinky so cognizant. This stayed with me because what are the chances? Subsequently, during an epic ten year run hosting the ONLY Official TLB Blog I called out persons who were obsessed with parole hearings, even going so far as to attend hearings that had nothing to do with their relatives. This applied mostly to the vile Orca Tate, but also to DiMaria (who, based on this book, got even worse on this subject). Some time maybe eight years ago I was getting a table at Musso and Frank's and DiMaria was there- while I braced for a confrontation he was nothing but lovely.
Also the agent Tony Seidl is thanked in the credits for setting the book up and I have worked with Tony in the past.
The GOOD: The writing style is breezy and informative. No one will ever need to do a Jay Sebring bio again- this cannot be topped, ever. So don't try.
The BAD: Instead of 24 pertinent photographs beautifully recreated in the middle of the book there are 72 pages of black and white photographs, one to a page, badly printed and often for no point- hey look, a portrait of Jim Morrison did you know Jay did his hair?
THE FACTS: as we have all learned, FACTS are the only thing to deal with in this case and I have questions with this book.
Page 318- I do not believe Terry Melcher produced the Mamas and the Papas ever
Page 325 exhibits a deep misunderstanding of Bugliosi's Helter Skelter Fiction. The copycat motive theory was to free Bobby. I never read that it also included framing the Black Panthers to divert from Crowe. They were happy framing ANYONE.
Page 335 - here and in other spots in the book the authors seem to think that in order to pump up Jay they have to denigrate Polanski. Remember, the goal here is that Jay was a legend (even called iconic as is his vanished salon) and he got screwed by being killed. This page really wants us to believe that Sharon was all but back with Jay- something Orca, DiMaria's bff, denies vehemently.
Page 341 a lawyer reveals that Sharon had drawn up divorce papers before her death. This is of course horse shit and even repeating that shows that the desperate Jay adulation is off the charts. This page also points out that Tom O'Neill is lying garbage as all researchers already know.
Page 353 (ref Page 325 above) is as confused about the Helter Skelter motive as earlier.
Page 372, while slagging O'Neill, always a good thing, is wildly offensive. First of all, the Col had cited that Steven Parent was gay as far back as the 1990s Yahoo groups. For his work the Col would be yelled at and questioned because homophobes have issues. But I've spoken to David Gerrold - his now somewhat famous boyfriend at the time. Steven was gay and was likely at Cielo to frolic with Garretson. AND THAT'S FINE. This book states that O'Neill was the first to call Parent's sexuality into question in 2024. But first of all, being gay isn't "into question". He was gay. Fuck you if you don't like that for some reason. And O'Neill, stealing from the research of his betters, was not even close to the first to reveal this.
Page 408- any time Barbara Hoyt is given credibility one's own credibility takes a hit.
Page 436 provided my favorite factual revelation - and then took it away! In a Parole Hearing that includes Orca and Di Maria, a "media observer" is permitted - Sophia Arguelles. The book then claims she is Michael Brunner's daughter/ Manson's granddaughter. Which is a POW moment. But then the text reveals that she is Daniel Arguelles' (an ALLEGED Manson son) daughter. Confused.
Page 457- DiMaria is very upset that Leslie is paroled. You know, after all the shit she did to his uncle that he never knew, she was freed. I mean I would not have freed her but calm down guy.
As indicated above there is a BIG movement in the book to establish that Jay fought for himself, Sharon and the others. SUPER SEBRING! And any chance we get to push that Jay and his Jeet Kune Do could have saved the day gets added over and over again. Of course this skips the logic that MAYBE if there were any chance to survive (very unlikely) a short dude punching and kicking people didn't help. MAYBE it made everyone more aggro!
On Page 467, mirroring O'Neill, the authors are very upset that Bugliosi won't engage to be interviewed - you know, the man who never met Jay Sebring.
Page 497 reprints a famous photo of Jay and Sharon at the pool in Cielo, the day or two before the carnage. It is credited to the DiMaria Family- which is nonsense. The photographer and thus the copyright is unknown. The film was stolen by an LAPD piece of shit cop and then stolen from him (bravo) decades later by Patti Tate's lover and noted TLB researcher Alisa Statman.
Page 186 wraps up a chapter that comes to the conclusion that Jay Sebring created Bruce Lee- okay then.
Page 150, again trying to pump up the dead (because why have a bio otherwise ?) we learn that the Unions and Mob and Licensing board DID NOT STOP trying to close the little shop on Fairfax down but SUPER JAY saved the day.
Barbara Luna, who I've met at autograph shows, was with Jay a long time and as google tells us, was a real looker and provides good tales. Cami Sebring, the first wife, google also tells us was gorgeous. But since SUPER JAY can do no wrong when she divorces him it takes a paragraph and no reasons are given- they stayed friends till the end. They just divorced because reasons.
I think the authors bring too much of their own prejudices to the story. Jay was into BDSM like so many are today, but DiMaria is offended because that makes him seem impotent so a lot of time is spent denying it, with no evidence provided. Jay was surely a player but wtf is he doing with an almost naked ex late at night, drunk, up in the hills if he isn't desperately clinging. Sebring accomplished a HELL of a lot in his short life and was on his way to accomplishing a LOT more. But he wasn't fucking Moses.
The tome is worth it for every serious researcher, just be advised as to the serious slant.. I don't know that Jay Sebring needed a 500+ page biography but we got one.
18 comments:
As someone who is not a true researcher or scholar of TLB I am grateful we have those of you who are ( Deb and Alisa are great examples among a few others) to do the heavy lifting, so the rest of us can comment and go back and forth about the results of your work. It sounds like this is a book I can skip. However I do have some thoughts about this review:
They say girls like tall, dark, and handsome. Sharon seemed to like short and pale dudes. Is Roman handsome?
One thing that I thought was an obvious mistake was saying Melcher never produced Mamas and Papas. One thing I did personally read a lot about was the musical connections. I have read in many places over the years that melcher did produce the Mamas and Pappas. But not to embarrass myself I went back this morning and double checked a dozen sites that make this claim and today I noticed something I never did before. In every single one of them- when they list the acts he produced while with Colombia or after- they give examples of songs he produced for them. Except the Mamas and poppas. Couldn’t find a single example. It seems they all just lump Terry in with anyone involved in major way with the development of “The California sound”.
Interesting that you met Jay so early in your time out there. I wonder if that added any interest in all this for you? I met someone on a reality show once I had never seen and to this day I watch it now lol. I know that you always had interest in the book but I wonder if meeting him didn’t make it a little more real?
You have never really liked Deb and I’ll never get that. You write Anthony never met Jay. I’m not sure I knew that. So I could sort of understand the idea he goes to far at hearings but even there it’s still his family and he has a right to speak for them. But Deb was Sharon’s sister. Deb was at an age where those things have a huge impression. Deb has the absolute right to speak as much and whenever she wants about people who were involved with or in support of those involved with stabbing to death her pregnant sister. Yeah she also did it with people who killed others not Sharon. Ok fair point. But I think Deb had a right to be involved as much as she decided she needed to. Sorry I just do.
There has been much written over the years about the killers and Leslie in particular. Books, friend groups, celebrity endorsements. Dedications at beginning of movies. If this was Anthonys one chance to speak back in honor of his family. I’ll give him a longer leash to take his time personally. Neither Deb or Anthony became wealthy or famous and put themselves through some inconvenience and expense to keep showing up with no personal benefit to themselves. That too must be considered no? It seems that they did this for so long for idealistic reasons not selfish or financial considerations. If they benefited for any reason I could see the issue but it doesn’t appear they did.
Jay was a human being, flawed like us all, who had the absolute right to live. That right was violated by a bunch of animals who killed him and his friends, then wrote on things with their blood. That must have been something Anthony had to grow up with. Listening to the stories of the torture. Reading all the sordid stories about his own uncle who was viciously murdered. If this was his attempt to fight back in some way I am not going to be the one to tell him he had to fight fair. Let him paint his uncle any way he wants. People sure didn’t mind painting him in other ways over the years.
Happy Year Col. thanks for the food for thought π»π₯
Hi Saint- I always regretted falling out with you and it is nice to see you here engaging with me.
Reasons to hate Debra-
1. False Premise- due to real, hurtful, actions, her Father specifically disinherited her and did not want her to speak for the Tate family- Ever.
2- Petty Revenge- because of the schism and due to an omitted health directive filing, Paul Tate's ashes are not buried next to his wife like he wanted but sit in Debra's house leaving his grandchildren sad and bereft.
3- Debra had (no idea if still does) a pattern of claiming rights to her sister that she never owned- either they never existed or they were not inherited by her.
4- She personally took a payment from the Tarantino movie to look the other way, nothing for the actual estate.
5- At the dawn of time of TLB research Debra was working closely with (and perhaps dating ) a convicted child sex abuser. Despite the current political climate where pedos rule the country, pedophilia is never something to support.
Those are just the top 5 reasons, buddy. I have seen nude photos that exist of an underage Debra frolicking at Cielo with drug dealers- the initial killer suspects!
Debra and Anthony can do whatever they want to do, and certainly the Col has no power to stop them and no desire to. But Debra, to a huge extent and Anthony to a lesser extent, has defined her life as victim adjacent. And that is sad and was not necessary.
Charisma is very much a thing. Polanski is not good looking and likely never was but when I met him in a cafe briefly in 2017 he had charisma. It's undefinable
All the best in 2026 to our favorite Saint. Glad you are back and sober and thriving.
ColScott and StCircumstance, as a now-and-then reader of this blog, I have to tell you that I've enjoyed, and continue to enjoy, the discourse that both of you gentlemen have posted here, and DebS, too. Thank you for that. I need all the enjoyment that I can get!
I’m neither sober or thriving lol. In last two years I lost my wife, all my money, my house, my dog, my Company was sold, and I have been too embarrassed to speak with any of my friends. I am currently hiding out at my mom’s house in the most rural shitty small town in Central Florida. I have no car, no job, and exactly 2.00 in the bank. I am working a few nights a week in a restaurant to pay for food and beer. The beer I still have lol π»every once in awhile my brother throws me some weed. But enough about me. I’m still tall and kinda handsome. I’ll figure a way back π€·π»♂️
Some of these things about Deb I knew. Most I did not. I think making yourself a victim of a crime committed on someone else is not admirable. But I also think to a lesser point the families of the victims are victims as well. But I get what you’re saying. It’s not a good look to live off it.
But I guess my question to that is did Deb or Anthony “live off it”? Did they profit in any way? I don’t know -I’m asking. I did read all the parole hearings and in some it was mentioned the lengths they had to go through to attend from time to time. I assume nobody pays for their time, travel or lodging to get to some of these places they travel toπ€·π»♂️so what did they benefit or gain besides the chance to represent dead family members. The motivation in that one single area of life is how I am personally judging.
I will take your word for everything else on list as you would know, and I know I don’t know lol. But her father and her other sister can feel anyway they want. Sharon was still her sister and she has her own right to say and feel the way she wants about that specific incident. Her father can’t make her no longer Sharon’s sister no matter what he says after Sharon is gone. It can’t change the times and moments that Deb remembers which they shared together.
I am no particular fan of Deb. I don’t forgive Deb her obnoxiousness and I am open to her being a complete dueche. But I’m still not sure I feel it should exempt her from speaking out on behalf of her sister - whom you or nobody else had ever said had a problem with her. Dad can disown her. Other sister can hate her. Public can mock her for her stupidity and lack of class. But she was Sharon’s sister. If Sharon loved her and she loved Sharon - isn’t the rest mashed potatoes? I don’t know really …
I never felt like we had a falling out. You are more accomplished and smarter than I am by a lot lol. You forgot more about this case than I will ever know. I always looked at our exchanges as me trying to be entertaining and spouting my opinions, and once in awhile, you correcting me and putting me in my place. I kinda liked it. It’s flattering to me that someone like you would even take the time to give me communication. When I started doing this on your only official site all those years ago. I still remember to this day the first time you ever acknowledged my comment. You called “ one of our esteemed” something and I was through the roof with excitement. Today I know clearly who you are and follow you and your career as best I can. It only enhances the thrill for me. I was just showing someone last week the picture of you Matt and I at El Coyote. I brag about meeting you and Jason for that matter. It was One of the greatest highlights of my dozen trips out to LA. ( the hardest part of my current situation is understanding I’ll probably never get back out there again ). I probably went too far with my anger a few times but I promise I have been a really good, generous and helpful person to a lot of people all my life and in the last 4 or 5 the realization of what was happening to me ( not because of beer or weed ) made me a very angry guy at times. So I apologize for anything out of line I may have said to you and really anyone else on here. But mainly you. I’m a huge fan and always will be.
Thank you very much - I appreciate you π
Thank you π
You're most welcome, sir. And you sound like the kind of man I used to go for in my long-vanished youth, lol. Seriously, you also sound like the kind of man who can make it back up - don't give up!
Never lol.
As a 'shave and a haircut for 2 bits' type of male, I say that pioneering men's hairstyling is nothing to boast about. Expensive poodlecare for the so called modern man. Bah.
Well balanced and entertainingly interesting review, Col. Cheers.
Page 341 "a lawyer reveals that Sharon had drawn up divorce papers before her death. This is of course horse shit"
That I think came out of the "Cutting to the Truth" documentary. What makes you think it is illegitimate?
Fit the hell of it I googled “Famous Men’s Hairstylists”. Besides Sassoon I had never heard of of another name they mentioned. Apparantly there is a guy named Gibson who is the “Hairstylist to the Stars” today π€·π»♂️
I don’t know if Sharon and Jay were actually headed for divorce. It seems like weird timing with her just about to have a baby, but I really don’t know. I know even less if Jay would have had a shot if they did. I do believe that Jay was sticking close just in case and I believe even more than that Sharon and Roman would have split up at some point because Roman was just that much a piece of shit. Even if Roman was handsome lol π€·π»♂️
Col, many thanks for the book review, as I have been thinking about purchasing the book. Its good to see you posting. I have always wondered what the moment of inertia was, so to speak, of Debra being disowned by her family. From what I can see here in your analysis, it must have been extremely serious.
When you mention Debra nude with druggies at Cielo, is this the same episode referred to in Bill Garretson's police interview, where he said he saw a nude girl by the pool with Voytek in attendance with a film camera? Billy Doyle also may have hinted at this in his interview when asked if he saw Debra at Cielo. Doyle said he did see her there, during the time Pic Dawson was filming a movie on location.
According to IMDB, Terry Melcher did indeed work with the Mamas and the Papas, including producing them. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0577457/trivia/
I think about Sebring nearly every day when I drove past his former salon on Fairfax.
@torque....I'd be very interested to know about this "movie" that Pic Dawson was allegedly involved in. To my knowledge, Dawson had zero connections to the film industry. The MUSIC industry yes, due to his documented connection to Cass Elliott, but I never heard anything about him working in films.
@loegria15....IMDB is, at least in this particular instance, totally wrong. Melcher never produced ANYTHING by the Ms&Ps, including the 1971 reunion album. Lou Adler (and probably John Phillips) was the only producer they had.
@SixtiesRockRules! what about at least "worked with", though could me anything from just listening to one of their tracks to smoking a joint with them, I suppose.
Sixties, my only source for Pic having anything to do with film or photography can be found in the Billy Doyle taped interview with LAPD in Toronto, and this is at cielodrive.com in the Audio Archives.
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