Monday, August 28, 2017

A Look At the Evidence #6: Granado’s Big Mistake

Other Posts: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7


"The Blood Problem. No scenario for the murders in any published account or police report has taken seriously into consideration the fact that Miss Tate and Jay Sebring were outside the house on the front porch during the massacre. If you look at the large picture of the front porch that Life published last August you will see incredible amounts of blood. All this blood is of the two victims mentioned. One supposes that the true story of what happened at the house on Cielo Drive last August 8th will come out sooner or later. We have reason to believe that Linda Kasabian recounted a different, much different, story of what happened there at the house to at least two people before she was arrested- a story divergent from her 18 day testimony on the witness stand."


Ed Sanders, Cast Call For Blood Alley, The Los Angeles Free Press, September 4, 1970

On the morning of August 9, 1969 at 10:00 a.m. officer Manuel Joseph Granado of the Los Angeles
I think Granado might be in the back with the glasses.
Police Department's Scientific Investigation Division (SID) arrived at 10050 Cielo Drive to participate in the crime scene investigation related to the murders of Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, Wojciech Frykowski, Abigail Folger and Steven Parent.


Granado had a bachelor of arts degree (undefined) and a masters degree in Criminalistics. He had six years experience with SID.

Cielodrive thinks this might be him.
Granado first did a walk-through of the crime scene. This is when he noted the gun grip pieces in the front hall (that later were kicked under a chair, see image, below). He then went back and began to collect evidence. He started with the gun grip because he was afraid the pieces might be lost.

Granado logged each location where he collected evidence that day with his initial “G” and a number. According to his testimony, these numbers form the chronological path he followed as he moved about the crime scene that morning.
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Q: And the “17” is what? Is that just one of your figures?
A: Just a chronological order that I picked up the various evidence at the scene.
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Evidence entries G22-27 are missing from the report he subsequently submitted to Captain Don A. Martin, Commander of SID (below, right). We know these entries once existed because during his testimony he identified G25 as a mark on a beam. It tested negative for blood.

[Aside: I count 31 typed blood samples recorded on this report. If I add the missing G25 and the three ‘not blood’ or ‘insufficient amount’ results I get 35. Bugliosi says 45. Where are the other 10?]

While collecting blood samples Granado labeled seven locations, which together form the basis for his 'big mistake':

G4: Blood splatters on front porch next to door, human blood- type OM (Sharon Tate)


G5: Front door porch near post, human blood- type O-MN (Jay Sebring)

G-7. Foot print on porch, human blood. O-M (Sharon Tate)[Aside: several other barefoot prints were also identified in this general location but were not tested for blood.]

G32: Blood left side of door jam, human blood- type OM (Sharon Tate)

G33: Blood 22 inches north of edge of porch, and 42 inches east of edge of porch (front), human blood- type O-MN (Jay Sebring)

G34: Blood on walkway, 28 inches from front porch and 8 inches north of edge of walkway, human blood- type O-MN (Jay Sebring)

G35: Blood on porch (6-18 inches) from south side of entry (splatters) human blood- type OM (Sharon Tate)

These seven locations place Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring on the front porch and walkway of the house. The eyewitness say they were never there.
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I would have shot him, but he and Sadie kept rolling and fighting, so I finally threw myself on him and beat him over the head with the butt of the gun until it broke, a section of the grip dropping to the floor. He was enormously powerful, fighting for his life as he dragged the two of us across the hall toward the front door, knocking over the trunks.

As we staggered out onto the front porch, he kept screaming, “Help me. Oh God, help me!” I
stabbed him over and over, blindly, the whole world spinning and turning as red as the blood that was smearing and spattering everywhere. Finally I shot him twice and he slumped onto the stone porch.

(Charles ‘Tex’ Watson, Will You Die For Me)

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Atkins initially tells us she was on the floor in the living room and saw neither the shooting nor Frykowski going out the door. Then she changes her story.
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PAUL CARUSO: Frykowski was going out, wasn’t he?
SUSAN ATKINS: Yes, but I don’t remember because I was on the floor.
(Atkins Interview by Caballero and Caruso, December 1, 1969- thanks to cielodrive.com)

Q: What happened next?
A (Atkins): Then he got away from me. Mr. Frykowski got away from me. He started running towards the front door which was open and screaming bloody murder, yelling for his life, for somebody to come help him.
*****
Q: What is the next thing that happened?
A: Frykowski was running and screaming. He got to the door and Tex hit him over the head.
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Q: In addition to hitting Mr. Frykowski over the head with the gun butt did Tex do anything else to Mr. Frykowski at that point?
A: He was stabbing him as best he could because Frykowski was fighting.

Cielodrive.com. Susan Atkins Grand Jury Testimony (Kindle Locations 560-569). Kindle Edition.

Kasabian tells us that she saw Frykowski come out the door, alone. He made eye contact and then he falls into the bushes at the north end of the porch. Frykowski is next being attacked by Watson on the lawn.
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Q. What happened after you ran toward the house?
A (Kasabian). There was a man just entering out of the door and he had blood all over his face and he was standing by a post, and we looked into each other's eyes for a minute, I don't know however long, and I said, "Oh, God, I am so sorry. Please make it stop." And then he just fell to the ground into the bushes.

And then Sadie came running out of the house, and I said, "Sadie, please make it stop." And then I said, "People are coming." And she said, "It's too late." And then she told me that she left her knife and she couldn't find it. And while this was going on, the man had gotten up, and I saw Tex on top of him, hitting him on the head and stabbing him, and the man was struggling, and then I saw Katie in the background with the girl, chasing after her with an upraised knife, and I just turned and ran to the car down at the bottom of the hill.
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Q. You will have to speak a little bit more loudly in the microphone. You say when this tall man first came out the door covered with blood, he fell into some bushes?
A . Yes.
Q. Were these bushes close to the front door?
A. Yes.
Q. You say he eventually got up and moved to a different place?
A. Yes.
Q. Tex followed him?
A. Yes.
Q. Finally the man fell down, you say?
A. Yes.
Q. And Tex got on top of him and stabbed him, is that correct?
A. Yes.
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[Aside: I usually skim through the various books when I write these posts to see if there is something to add. When I did in my version of Sanders’ The Family I noticed at page 412 (2002 edition) that he has an image of one of the notes Kasabian wrote Bugliosi (right). Remember, those notes are things she ‘remembered’ between interviews.

"At the end of each interview I’d tell her that if, back in her cell, anything occurred to her which we hadn’t discussed, to “jot it down.” A number of these notes became letters to me, running to a dozen or more pages."

Bugliosi, Vincent; Curt Gentry. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders . W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

This story- Sadie’s Stroll- appears in that note. It includes this: “Then I looked at the boy in the car and thought to myself ‘oh no, they’re killing the people- I have to do something.’” She goes on to say she ran over “to the hedge” and saw Frykowski. The note is interesting. First, we are supposed to believe this was something that when interviewed Kasabian didn’t remember and only remembered later, when alone in her cell.  The part where she saw Parent almost sounds like this is the first she knew he had been shot, while she testified she saw him being shot. Then she places herself at ‘the hedge’. This is not at the “LK arrow” on the walkway.]

The Big Mistake



The seven blood locations contradict everything we know happened that night. We know Sebring and Tate never escaped the living room.

If Granado made a mistake in typing Frykowski’s blood, then the Sebring blood evidence reveals a path similar to Folger’s blood evidence and is consistent with our understanding about what happened that night according to the eyewitnesses.

G29: The trunks to the....
G2: Gun grip in the front hall to the ....
G5 and 31: Blood on the porch to the .....
G34: Blood on the walkway to the .....
G16: Scarf found in the grass about ten feet from Frykowski’s body.

[Aside: At the trial Granado testified that he also tested the actual gun for blood and found type B blood on the hammer and in the metal portion of the exposed grip. Granado didn’t have access to the gun until December 16, 1969. This actually lends some support to the argument that Granado didn’t make a mistake as it places blood consistent with the eyewitnesses on the gun following a successful test, months after the events.]



The Number of Mistakes



The first problem encountered is the number of errors Granado has to make for this evidence to be a mistake. Granado had to make a mistake at least seven times (and I would argue nine). This translates to seven out of thirty-one samples (23%) of all blood tested and seven out of eighteen type O blood samples (40%). Add the ribbons and the scarf and it is 50%. The number is actually higher because of the subtypes.

The M-N-MN subtype of Sebring is the same as Frykowski (MN). So that needn't be an error. That still leaves four locations (Sharon Tate’s M subtype) where Granado also had to make a mistake during the M-N-MN subtyping. So, all told, we have eleven to thirteen errors. That is a lot. 

Possible Errors



Possible Error #1: Delay in Testing the Blood Samples



Granado was testing the blood months after the crimes.
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Q: And when did you make your examination of these samples?
A: The week immediately following and several months thereafter.
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At the Watson trial Granado was clearer on this issue.
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Q: And when did you make your examination back at the office?
A: Some of them I started the following day and others I was still running tests several months afterwards.
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Could this be the culprit? No

First, remember the gun. Most of these seven locations are mentioned in the First Homicide Investigation Progress Report as having been typed. Many of the seven locations were typed and subtyped by the date of that report. More importantly, as Naguchi testified (below), blood can be typed (but not necessarily subtyped) years after the event. That is an accurate statement.

Conclusion: Not the error.

Possible Error #2: The Chain of Evidence



Forensic procedural manuals, textbooks, training literature and protocols all stress documenting everything the forensic investigator does by video tape if possible (today). Documentation is critical. (John Schiro. Forensic Scientist, Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory, Collection and Preservation of Blood Evidence at Crime Scenes, Crime Scene Network)

The error would go something like this: Granado collected G32 from somewhere other than the front porch door jam and either mislabeled the location or switched two sample locations.

One clue to this error would be locations where type B blood is ‘out of place’ because Granado switched the actual locations. Example: G32 is really from location G26 (let’s assume G26 is near Tate’s body) and G26 appears as type B in the report. Alternatively, there should be locations identified where no test was performed. Example: G32 is really from G26 but there is no typed blood from G26.

There is, perhaps, an indication this error may have occurred. That comes from the homicide report and the missing entries in his memo to the SID commander.
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Blood around area of Polanski's body and Sebring's body and rope which they were tied with, type O. (First Tate Homicide Investigation Progress Report, emphasis added)
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Granado has no record of samples from 'around the area' of Polanski or Sebring if he did take them. Evidence items G22-27, however, are missing from the blood report, above. Granado testified that G25 was the beam. Since the “G” numbers are chronological and G25 is the beam and G28 is the rope G26 and G27 logically could be in the living room at the bodies of Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring. G21 is from Parent’s car which suggests to me G22-24 may be outside and further away from the house (the garage?) or that at some point in the sequence the location shifts to the living room. But without knowing what the missing evidence was there is no way to say for sure. This could account for five, but not seven, errors.

Conclusion: Unable to determine, but I’ll say unlikely due to the number of errors involved.

Intermission



Before moving on to other possible errors you need to have two pieces of information.

Naguchi’s Testimony


Naguchi testified as follows on cross examination.
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Q (Kanarek) **** In a week could you still tell that blood type?
A (Naguchi). We should be able to tell blood type, yes.
Q: And what time period, could you give us some sort of time period, let’s say, ordinary Southern California type atmosphere, minimum amount of rain, and so forth, what would the time period after which you could not tell the blood type was?
A. Well, if a blood stain has sufficient quantity we should be able to tell the blood type of the A, B, O system. If it dried without chemical changes I would say we should be able to tell even though it had been dry for many years.
Q. I see. Now, what happens, Doctor, if blood of different types mixes? Does that interfere with the analysis?
A. Yes.

[Aside: why on earth is Kanarak asking Naguchi these questions? These are the questions he should be asking Granado, who testifies, next. He doesn’t. Or at least I would add: "Kanarek, ask the next damn question!"- “How does it interfere?”]
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ABO Typing

This is how ABO blood typing works, the only test Granado had to work with in 1969. With dried blood, it is a little more complicated then described below, but this is close enough for this post.

Granado sets up two test tubes. He places the same sample from the crime scene in each one. He then takes a known sample of type A blood from the lab and places it in test tube A and a known sample of blood type B in test tube B. He waits thirty minutes or so. The results are then apparent to the naked eye and can be confirmed by a microscope.


He is looking for clumping. Here, to the right, test tube B shows clumping. That happens when type B blood mixes with type A blood. Test tube A shows no reaction. Granado knows he has type A blood.

If he gets the opposite result he has type B.

If both clump (left) he has type AB.

And if neither clumps it is type 0 (lower right).

The images are good representations of what Granado would
actually see with the naked eye.

(Corey Harbison ABO Blood Type Identification and Forensic Science (1900-1960), Embryo Project Encyclopedia, 2016)

Possible Error #3: Blood Transfer



It is well documented that this happened. Several police officers tracked blood out onto the porch and even kicked the gun grip under a chair while Granado was present at the scene. It is also a certainty blood was transferred due to the movements of the murderers. But does this account for the seven suspected blood samples?

In a slightly different form this theory was also Bugliosi’s theory at the trial: our seven, suspect, blood samples were ‘cast off’ blood from the killers or their weapons carried from Sebring and Tate in the living room to the front porch. Bugliosi even had Granado circle an area in a photo to show where he collected the sample from a larger bloodstain to make his point.

Bugliosi’s theory says drops of Tate/Sebring blood fell into these seven locations (where Frykowski’s blood was located) and by some miraculous accident when Granado collected samples from the larger bloodstained areas, with pinpoint accuracy, he accidentally took his samples from those precise locations. Then, when he tested them he obtained a type O result, seven times.

Granado would have to pull off this feat seven times, each time collecting a transferred drop from a larger area of Frykowski’s blood. He would also need to get a subtype of M on four samples.

The eyewitnesses say Sebring was attacked in the living room, first. His blood could transfer in the ensuing ‘chase’ of Frykowski. But how does Tate’s blood get onto the front porch?

One possible explanation is that Tate’s blood was transferred by Atkins when she wrote ‘Pig’ on the door. The door to the Polanski home, however, was open not closed when police arrived. That would suggest any cast off from the ‘Pig’ writing should be in the front hall, not on the porch.
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Q: Before you entered, did you notice whether the front door was to the Tate residence was open or closed?
A (Wheisenhunt): The door was open.
*****
Q: All right, now, before running outside of the kitchen door with your purse did you notice whether or not the front door was open or closed?
A (Chapman): It was open.
*****
Q: I show you People’s 103 for identification and direct your attention to the front door of the Tate residence. You will notice it is open. Was the front door open when you arrived on the premises?
A (De Rosa): Yes it was.

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That really leaves Atkins and Watson, leaving the house, as the mechanism  to transfer Sharon Tate's blood to the front porch. 

That doesn’t mean the victims’ blood couldn’t have been mixed. It was, and that is what Naguchi is alluding to at the end of his testimony (where Kanarek drops the ball, again). If two types of blood are mixed (remember, we are pre-DNA by twenty years) any blood typing of that blood is unreliable if you know it is mixed.

This issue comes up, frequently, in exoneration cases of convicted rapists (by DNA) today. The concept, there, is known as ‘masking’. If more of the victim’s blood type is present in the fluid the smaller amount from the assailant will be hidden from the ABO test- masked- making the test unreliable. The concept should be explained to the jury. (Vanessa Meterko, M.A., Strengths and Limitations of Forensic Science: What DNA Exonerations Have Taught Us and Where to Go From Here, Virginia Law Review, Vol.119, 2017)

That means our seven suspect samples are, indeed, ‘unreliable’. It also means we can’t say Frykowski’s blood is not also at the seven locations.

But ‘masking’ also suggests something interesting. The higher quantity blood type should appear during the test. (Meterko, supra) This means when Granado found type O blood at these locations there was far more type O blood in his sample then type B. According to the official narrative, that is backwards.

The way this error can provide an explanation for our seven suspect samples is if Bugliosi is correct.   Granado would need to collect a mix of the transferred type O blood and a lesser amount of type B from each location. The type O blood in the sample then ‘masks’ the type B blood. If this happened it could explain all of the suspect samples.

There is a problem, however: how could Granado have accidently pulled this off seven times? The problem is illustrated by the footprint. How did Atkins track the O blood across the walk in greater quantities then type B and then how did Granado collect the O type blood out of that mix?

Conclusion: This is the scenario that best explains the errors but it requires a lot of extraordinary coincidences.

Possible Error #4: A Testing Error



Bugliosi wanted to identify whose blood was located at each location and show the movements of the victims. He was also attempting to corroborate Kasabian. But Granado can’t really do that. All he can really say, for example, is that G35 could be any one of several million people, including Jay Sebring. Because of this, Bugliosi stays away from asking questions about procedure, protocols or testing techniques. He also does this because he has blood at the wrong place. The defense.....well, they were incompetent. Only one person ever asked the critical question: Judge Alexander at the Watson trial.
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The Court: I have a couple questions I would like to ask. Maybe I was mistaken listening to your testimony. You say on the pathway outside the house you found blood O with a sub type MN; is that correct? The early part of your testimony.
A: Walkway. Okay.
Q: The walkway?
A: Yes.
Q: Am I correct in that?
A: Yes; O MN.
Q: O MN. The only bodies outside the house were those of Abigail Folger and Wojiciech Frykowski; is that correct, sir?
A: That is correct.
Q: Neither one of them has O with sub type MN; is that correct?
A: That is correct.
Q: Can you account for the O MN blood type outside the house when the only bodies outside of the house were Wojiciech Frykowski and Folger and neither one of them had O sub type MN?
A: Unless one of the two O—the O MN bodies had at one time been outside bleeding and brought back in. [I believe a ‘not’ is missing here at the start of the last answer.]
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Because of DNA by the end of the 1980’s no one cared about ABO blood typing at crime scenes so finding helpful research is difficult. In fact, since the advent of non-human reagents the procedures used by Granado were no longer used even when ABO blood typing occurred.


In 1977 a grant was given to the Forensic Sciences Foundation to run a study on crime lab proficiency (Joseph L. Peterson et al., Crime Laboratory Proficiency Testing Research
Program, Natl. Inst. L. Enforcement & Crim. Just. 1978). Several hundred labs were given a series of
tests and asked to submit their results. The tests included ballistics, paint samples, finger prints, hair blood stains, etc. As part of the study, and as part of a promise of anonymity, the ‘codes’ identifying which lab had performed how on which test were destroyed [Aside: given the results, probably so defense lawyers couldn’t access the information]. Both Naguchi’s office and LAPD’s SID (Wolfer) participated in the study. Granado moved on to the FBI shortly after first trial. The overall results were abysmal.

The 1977 study included two ‘blood tests’. Test #3 required the lab to type and subtype a blood stain just like Granado. Test #8 required the lab to determine if two blood stains could have originated from the same source. Granado couldn’t and didn’t attempt this in 1969. The results appear to the right.


Test #3 statistically supports the argument that Granado didn’t make a mistake. The error rate is only 3.8% for typing blood which is good. However, the detail on the testing reveals an interesting piece of information.
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Type MN blood was reported correctly by 15 of 25 laboratories attempting this system. This represents 60% of the attempts.
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All of the laboratories attempting the MN typing used the absorption elution method [used by Granado]. Each of the 9 laboratories reporting type M had also used the absorption elution technique in the ABO typing [used by Granado], and had correctly typed the stain as type B. The Project Advisory Committee concludes that the errors may well be attributable to considerations other than technique. MN antisera is widely held to be treacherous, and the erroneous results may possibly be attributed to poor antisera.
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This means the M-N-MN sub-typing (used by Granado) had an error rate in the study of 40%. The reason was the antisera. The antisera if not used carefully can have two impacts N antigens can bond with M cells from the actual bloodstain making the bloodstain appear to be subtype MN. Alternatively, the antisera can 'destroy' the 'N' aspect of the MN cell making it appear to be 'M'. (Robert Shaler, Phd. et al, MN Determination in Bloodstains-Selective Destruction of Cross-Reacting Activity, National Institute of Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, May 1977)

This could explain the odd coincidence that every victim except Sharon Tate was subtype MN. It also means Granado’s subtype results are likely wrong (or at least there is a 40% chance each one is wrong). It also means the O-MN blood found on the porch and elsewhere could be type O-M and that, at least, places Sebring back in the living room. Of course it also means the O-M blood could be O-MN.

This possible error potentially makes all seven samples (and others) Sharon Tate’s blood. For example, if you believe the official narrative, given the order the victims were killed, it is more likely the greater quantity of blood on Watson’s hand when he left the scene would be from Sharon Tate, the last victim, not Sebring, the first. This error may explain why Sebring’s blood appears to be on the gate button. MN sub typing clearly was not very reliable. 

The second test, #8, suffered a 71.2% error rate but this test was to determine whether two bloodstains could come from the same source. Granado couldn’t and didn’t attempt that in this case.

[Aside: After 1977 proficiency testing continued under the study and the results continued to be abysmal into the 1990’s (Randolph N. Jonakait, Forensic Science: The Need for Regulation, Harvard Journal of Law and Technology, Vol.4, 1991)]

The explanation offered in the 1977 report for the various errors included: lack of training and education, problems with reagents, poorly equipped facilities, overworked staff, underpaid staff, lack of protocols, bias and lack of staff, turning the investigator into a ‘jack of all trades’. All of these, arguably, apply to Granado. Bias- he knew the detectives believed Sharon Tate’s body had been moved and that may have influenced his results.

[Aside: It is too bad the lab ‘codes’ were destroyed. It would be interesting to see how Wolfer’s lab faired.]

Conclusion: There is no solid evidence of this error in part because no one asked the right questions at either trial. Statistically, however, it is highly probable Granado’s M-N-MN subtyping is wrong. I don’t think there is enough evidence to say his ABO typing is wrong (as in ‘the wrong type was identified during the test’).

Possible Error #5: Frykowski is type O-MN



Granado typed the victims’ blood from the morgue, first. If he made a mistake in typing Frykowski then the Sebring blood evidence reveals a path heading out the front door. However, the coroner also typed Frykowski’s blood and concluded it was type B. It is also much easier to type ‘wet’ blood versus dried bloodstains.


Conclusion: Not the Error.

Possible Error #6: Almost all of the above



This may be the best explanation if mistakes were made. Each of the seven suspected blood samples could result from one or more different errors. The problem I keep running into is: it is seven errors. We are also saying at the same time Granado made this mistake he got all the type B blood right. There is one potential explanation for this outcome. The best explanation for that outcome is the error of transferred blood (mixing types) as described by Bugliosi because the type-B locations do not suffer from blood transfer. But that takes me back to the footprint.

The Footprints


Part of the evidence discovered that morning was a series of footprints that ran from near the front door easterly off the porch towards the grass.

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“Continuing toward the porch, three bloody footprints were noted. All four of these prints are blood type O and indicated the person was moving east from the porch.

Continuing onto the porch in a westerly direction, two bloody barefoot prints are noted. Both of these prints are blood type O and are also pointing in an easterly direction.”
(First Tate Homicide Progress Report)
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Again, adding to the mystery, Granado’s blood report only identifies one of these footprints (G7) and fails to record the other five mentioned as type ‘O’ in the report.

There are no bloody barefoot prints noted in the front hall but the images clearly show blood there. That means whomever left these stepped in the blood on the porch, not in the living room.

Here is what Atkins says about the footprints:
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Then I threw the towel back into the room and left. To get out of the door, I had to step in blood with one foot, so I hopped on the other foot down to the grass and wiped my bare foot back and forth several times.

Slosser, Bob; Atkins, Susan. Child of Satan, Child of God (p. 143). Menelorelin Dorenay’s Publishing. Kindle Edition.
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We can ignore her. We know this statement is completely inaccurate (surprise!) for two reasons. She didn’t have to step in the blood to exit the house and because she left several footprints.

The footprint is transferred blood from the doorway to the walk. It is blood moved from G32 (in all likelihood) to G7 by Atkins as she left the scene. And this blood sample, I believe, is the most compelling evidence that Sharon Tate was on the front porch. To exclude G7 you have to assume that Granado made one of the above errors (as to the and subtype) two times in connection with what is really the same blood sample.

The Violet Ribbons



G43: Violet colored ribbons found on side of door near blood splatters, human blood- type O.

If our seven suspect samples are wrong, it seems that this too has to be wrong unless someone carried these out the front door and dropped them. No one mentions this act and explaining ‘why’ this would happen is difficult. The more likely scenario is they fell there and no one saw that happen.

If we had an image of the ‘ribbons’ it would be helpful. I couldn’t find one. This is the one time Granado didn’t subtype the type O blood, which may suggest this is one he tested months later. Since this is G43 it is one of the last items Granado addressed, which suggests to me it ought to be in a picture. It is not mentioned in either trial.

If Sharon Tate was on the front porch these could from Sharon Tate’s hair.


The Scarf



G-16. Violet colored scarf found on grass area between body of Frykowski and pathway to front of house, human blood. O-MN [Aside: notice they match the ribbons]

This too, it seems, has to be the wrong blood type if the official narrative is right. Again, I have never seen an image of the scarf. Either the blood type is an error or someone carried this to the yard for some unexplained reason. Again, I have to ask 'why' this would happen?

There is some suggestion in the trial that G16 is actually the same object as G43 from Granado’s testimony (below). I do not think it was.

It is fair to ignore the subtype. We know that could easily be an error. Despite the eyewitness 
(Atkins) this could be what was used to write ‘Pig’ on the door which means she never threw anything back in the room but dropped it as she left the scene. The scarf as the writing instrument makes more sense than either towel. Neither towel is described as having sufficient blood on it. The beige towel, according to the SID report, has blood 'spots' and the yellow towel, well, judge for yourself. [Aside: in a previous post I stated that I thought the yellow towel was used. I no longer think that was the case.]
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A: ***** Next I move to G16, which appeared to me like a violet colored scarf with violet ribbons. This scarf was stiff and appeared to have material that appeared to me to be blood, and I took this to the lab and analyzed it. I found it to contain human blood type O, subtype MN.

This was near the body of Frykowski on the front lawn of the residence and approximately 10 feet from the sidewalk leading to the residence.
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I set out to prove Granado’s mistake, not to vindicate him. I don’t believe I did either.

I believe it is likely that he didn’t make the ‘big mistake’. I believe the evidence says it is more probable then not that Sharon Tate’s blood is on the front porch and that she was there. I think it is also possible that she could be there either with or without Jay Sebring because of the likelihood the MN subtyping is erroneous. And frankly, I don't think he was. 

I can see two ways Sharon Tate could be on the front porch.

 In one scenario little of the ‘official narrative’ has to
change.

It starts with Atkins and Watson both attacking Frykowski as he fights his way towards the front door. The broken gun grip in the front hall, the additional blood in the front hall (right) and the evidence Atkins stabbed Frykowski several times in the back document these events. Perhaps Sharon Tate followed Frykowski (or was near him) because Krenwinkel and Folger were blocking the other obvious exit from the living room. Remember, the fight between Atkins and Frykowski started in front of the couch and heads towards the chair at the north end of the room thus blocking access to the third exit from the room (below).

Frykowski then moves to the porch falling into the bushes at the north end. This act separates Frykowski from his attackers for a few moments. Frykowski's attempted escape leads away from actual help, which is down the driveway, because the presence of Kasabian blocks his best route. He would assume she is another foe coming to aid his attackers (and perhaps she was). 

Then practically everything described by Atkins can happen. Atkins is commanded by Watson to get Sharon. Without a knife she gets her in a head lock. Her conversation with Sharon ensues. She was then attacked by Watson while Atkins held her. Her body was either subsequently carried back into the house to stage a hanging- hanging her with her apparent ‘lover’ or Atkins walked her back there while wounded, in a bizarre way honoring her request to sit down.

I admit I reach this conclusion, in part, because I don’t believe Sharon Tate would ‘freeze’ (some do and your arguments are certainly valid). I also acknowledge one of the reasons I believe she didn't is anecdotal, relating to an incident involving my pregnant wife twenty-eight years ago and how she responded to a far less life threatening, yet still potentially injurious situation. Put simply, I believe Sharon Tate would have fought like hell to save her unborn child or as my wife put it at the time 'she became a she wolf'. 

The second possibility is Kasabian did 'hear' something, Steven Parent leaving, and that sent Watson after him before he could escape ("I won't tell anyone."). With only Krenwinkel and Atkins  in the living room everyone makes a break for it and Watson returns in time to meet them at the front door. But this version says the official narrative is completely wrong. 

The second reason I believe Sharon Tate was on the front porch is, to me, this fact: all seven (I would argue nine) of these samples have to be errors for Granado to be wrong.

In concluding he must be wrong we also start with the assumption Granado made these errors because we choose to believe the eyewitnesses. I started there. 

Comment after comment here, however, asks the question ‘when will they [the killers] tell the truth about what happened’. That is a legitimate question. The most innocuous issue, a bloody barefoot print on the walkway that is irrefutable, results in yet another inaccurate explanation from the one who left them there. Of course, she also claims she only stabbed Frykowski in the leg a few times.

So why would they not tell the truth about Sharon Tate being on the front porch? I can think of two pretty good reasons:

(1.) If they did they would have to explain why they moved the body. Moving her body to attempt to hang her from the rafters with Jay Sebring (his body obviously was at least ‘staged’ for that) is pretty damn sick. You decide how that might impact their trial or parole chances. As to the trial aspect, look at Kasabian’s self-serving comment, above. She already had immunity and was still trying to distance herself from 'them'.

I believe hanging the victims was part of the plan. I can’t imagine why you would bring 43’ of rope in one piece to tie up the victims and instead put the rope around three (and maybe all four) of their necks and then use a towel to tie them up.

I’ll add only that once Atkins’ version of events came to light it became the narrative for everyone, including Bugliosi, and everyone, ever since and Ms. Atkins is anything but a reliable source.

(2.) Giving the killers the benefit of a doubt, maybe they can’t emotionally or psychologically accept the fact that they tried to hang the victims. I'm not sure I could. It would be easier to say ‘I hid by the guest house until it was over’. Then, I don’t have to accept responsibility and don’t have to 'embrace' what I did.

I would like to acknowledge the substantial contribution made to this post by Bo at Cielodrive.com. Bo probably deserves partial credit on all of my posts but on this one especially. 

Pax Vobiscum


Dreath

Monday, August 21, 2017

Roman Polanski: The Dark Side





"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will always find a way around the law"

 - Plato


" If you have a great passion it seems that the logical thing is to see the fruit of it, and the fruit are children"

- Roman Polanski



Yeah, I am back. I just couldn't help myself. I was watching cable news this morning smoking a bowl, and Roman's name came scrolling across the bottom of the screen. I found myself thinking again of the worst husband on Earth. The guy who sent his 8 month pregnant wife on a ship sailing across the Ocean, without him, back to stay with people he would later say he didn't trust. To some, this will be a hatchet job on Roman. O.K. I can live with that. However, sprinkled in with my own personal commentary, there will be some hard to ignore points presented to make a case that this man is a very dangerous predator with an extremely dark side. So come with me, for a few minutes if you wish, while I explore what lies in the heart of this man - Roman Polanski. There are two sides to every story, but with some individuals, in some cases, there is a third. The Dark Side.....

( God that was a cheesy line lol maybe I should stop lighting up for the rest of this post lol)





LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles judge on Friday rejected a request by the woman who was raped by director Roman Polanski 40 years ago to have the criminal case against him dismissed. Superior Court Judge Scott Gordon ruled that Polanski remained a fugitive from justice and that the court could not dismiss a case "merely because it would be in the victim's best interest."The ruling follows the first appearance in June in the case by Samantha Geimer, who was 13 years old when Polanski sexually assaulted her in Los Angeles in 1977. 

- Reuters  8/17/17



 In March of 1977, Roman Polanski was charged with 5 offenses against Samantha Gailey a 13-year old girl.  Rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. He was given a plea bargain and all charges were dropped and he pleaded guilty to a single charge of unlawful sexual intercourse. Days before he was sentenced he decided that the judge might go back on the agreement, so he took it upon himself to flee the country in the darkness of night. In the years since, Samantha has asked for it to be dropped. Roman and his Hollywood supporters have asked for it to be dropped, yet once again, the courts have decided not to drop it. You see, even 40 years later it is not for a person to say what another person should be allowed to do to a 13 year old child- even if that child is her. Nor, does the court feel, is it appropriate for Roman to say when enough is enough. Especially, since he never showed up to accept his responsibility in the first place. Roman just ran like a coward. He paid almost no price at all. And there are many who think he has paid enough. Now it is not the intention of this post to decide, or debate the law and arguments that go with that chicken-shit move. Suffice to say, I don't understand how anyone can defend that? He decided for himself that the sentence might not be what he thought was agreed on, or fair, so he decided not to be sentenced at all? Anyway, that is just one reveal of a much darker character. This would not be a one time thing, but a foreshadowing of the type of relationship he would pursue for the rest of his life. Roman is attracted to children more or less. Even as he got older, and the age of his woman rose above the age of legality, there would remain a disparity of never less than 25 or more years to his romantic interests. But first what we learned from Samantha: Roman is a coward. He ran when he felt threatened. Roman gave this 13 year old girl part of a Quaalude, Champagne,  and that despite her saying NO- he had sex with her orally, anally and vaginally. He chose his own sentence, and then just split. He would later make patronizing statement and jokes about the entire situation. Things like:

"If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!"

I disagree Roman. I know plenty of guys who do not want to have sex with 13 yer old children. Most guys I know would be appalled at the idea. It seems to me he never did get that. He has lived his whole life thinking that these desires are normal and acceptable. Maybe that is because he never had to pay a price for what he did? There is a documentary floating around called; "Roman Polanski -Wanted and Desired". It argues very strongly that Roman got a bum deal. They argue that Roman had the right to flee, because after the Government dropped the charges from 5 offenses to 1, and they were going to give him a slap on the wrist with just one lesser charge, Roman still thought he might not get treated fairly enough. So he had no choice, I suppose but to bail. Anyway, you can go learn all about that case by watching that documentary, and maybe you will walk away feeling different than me? I think he should have faced the music for his actions and accepted responsibility for what he did. Roman did not have the right to decide for Roman what was and was not fair punishment for what Roman Did...


Back to Roman....

Next up...

“I fell in love with him at the beginning,” says Nastassja, who met Roman at a party in Germany when she was 15. “He was really a gentleman, not at all like the things I had heard,” she continues. “He introduced me to beautiful books, plays, movies. He educated me.”

-Nastassja Kinsky


 Roman meets Nastassja on the set of Tess. This "relationship" lasts not long because she says he is, "Controlling and aggressive." She also said this:

That's why when Roman [Polanski] came along and gave me Tess, it was like. . . it gave me such dignity, you know what I mean?' Tess (1980) – a reverential, three-hour-long rendering of Thomas Hardy's Tess of the D'Urbervilles – was the film that turned Kinski into a full-blown international film-star, and Polanski her mentor: "He would be very strict with me and send me books, and send me to school. And then when we did the movie he said, "I really want you to do this for me, because I wanted to do it for my wife [the murdered actress, Sharon Tate], and it means so much to me. But the only way you can do the film is to show you'll learn the [Wessex] accent, so I'm going to send you to England for four, five, six months and when you come back we'll do the test."' Kinski passed that test, and Polanski 'gave me a lot of respect. It was all very serious. He was a very severe person, in the best sense." 

Can this guy use his status to his advantage or what? But it wouldn't be last time Roman used this method. Not at all...



When Emmanuelle Seigner meets Roman Polanski at a dinner in 1985, she is a young model and he is already a celebrated director. In 1988, he turns the model into an actress and reveals her to the public with the film Frantic before the couple gets married in 1989. In 2009, they face, united, the scandal of Roman Polanski’s accusation of sexual crime on a minor - an affair that goes back to 1977 after Roman Polanski had tragically lost his wife Sharon Tate. Emmanuelle Seigner refuses to judge the past of her husband and faces the calumnies at his side. Since, the director has featured his sexy wife in a successful film, Venus in Furs and the cosmopolitan and charismatic Parisian couple continues to stand tall despite the age difference, the highs and lows in an independent spirit true to their somewhat rock n’roll personas.

33 years his junior... He has a couple of kids with this one. Roman is something else when it comes to younger woman. But at least this one agreed to have sexual relations with a guy old enough to be her dad. One must wonder if there were any others over the years who did not agree??


It has been a long time since Charlotte Lewis held a crowd enthralled in Hollywood.
But if she ever dreamed of a return to Los Angeles, where as a young actress she was hailed as a ‘golden child’ – talented, exquisitely beautiful and with a film career unfurling before her – it would never have been like this. On Friday, Charlotte, now 42, called a Press conference in Los Angeles to claim that director Roman Polanski, the man who gave her her first break, had abused her, ‘in the worst possible way’ when she was just 16 years old.

The chic from "The Golden Child"! Not Eddie Murphy's finest hour. The little Asian kid was cute though. Anyway, this is hearsay, as our more legally trained minds will be aware,but I believe her. Partially because I see it as part of a larger pattern, and secondarily because I just watched what happened with Bill Cosby unfold. I'll get to that in one minute, because first I need to point out one more case which will let me introduce what I call the "Glorida Allred Factor".....



"The day after it happened, I did tell one friend that Mr Polanski had done that to me," the woman, identified as Robin, said in a statement on Tuesday. "The reason, with this exception, that I kept it to myself is that I didn't want my father to do something that might cause him to go to prison for the rest of his life." The alleged victim’s lawyer remained tight-lipped about the details of case, but said that it had occurred in southern California. Robin on Tuesday said that she was "infuriated" that Mrs Geimer had forgiven Mr Polanksi and asked in June for the case to be closed."I'm speaking out now so that Samantha and the world will know she is not the only minor Roman Polanski victimized"

- The Tight-lipped lawyer mentioned is Gloria Allred. This happened 5 days ago. The purpose of this was specifically to enable this woman to be a witness at the retrial of Samantha should there be one. This woman is not seeking money ( A typical Allred motivation) She is doing the groundwork to add ammunition to any future trial of Roman about sexual abuse charges. Sounds personal to me. This brings me back to Bill Cosby and the "Gloria Allred Factor". Bill Cosby had fame, friends and power. Similar to Roman. I believe both of them had life-long , nasty, needs that they just couldn't control. I think Fleeing saved Roman's life more than he will ever know. Had he stayed, he would have went on satisfying his craving until, like Cosby, at some point the sheer numbers would have caught up with him at some point, if no one individual could in the short term. BUT....

Roman had to leave. And where did he go? Europe. He spent the rest of his life in countries, and places where they have much more liberal views about these types of things. For example, if you live in Japan, South Korea and Spain, the age of legal consent is 13. In Italy and Austria it is 14. and in France, where Roman has made his home all these years, it is a mere 15. Point being, who knows how many teen age and younger girls Roman has been able to manipulate all these years? But I submit that, had he stayed in the US and something like this came out, whenever it came out, with the resources, celebrity, and Gloria Allred's of the world prying into his background- would Roman not have gone down at some point eventually? That's the "Gloria Allred Factor"....

I will mention that he has his supporters lol. They always do. Hollywood and quite a few Celebrities have defended him over the years. Only a well known public figure can make you see that being a good artist is always an acceptable excuse to drug and annaly rape 13 year olds, but to be fair lets allow them to have their say:

Whoopie Goldberg said:  "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like "You know what this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail I'm not staying, so that's why he left."

Adrian Brody thinks he should get a pass due to his past: “Life is very complicated,” Brody, 43, said. “I look to collaborate with artistic people and to go into an endeavor without judgment and to hopefully be treated with the same. It’s an artistic pursuit, and Polanski for instance had a very complicated and difficult life. It would be unfair of me to delve into something as complicated as the past that was brought up in the media.” 

How about Debra Wingers statement as head of the Zurich Film Fesitval: Winger... on Monday demanded Polanski's release and criticized Swiss authorities for their "philistine collusion" in arresting Polanski as he entered the country. "This fledgling festival has been unfairly exploited, and whenever this happens the whole art world suffers," Winger said in a statement on Monday, standing together with the other four international jury members who wore red badges reading "Free Polanski" as they announced plans to continue the fest.

And famously when he was, temporarily, held in Switzerland- they all came out to sign petitions and make a big stink how unfair it was he might finally pay. And not just Whoopi and Adrian Brody. Some big name players:

A petition was immediately organized calling for his release, signed by prominent fellow directors including Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aronofsky, Terry Gilliam, Jonathan Demme, Ethan Coen and David Lynch, as well as actresses Penelope Cruz and Tilda Swinton.

Shame on them all I say. 13 to 15 year old girls for god-sakes. Drugs, and alcohol and forced sex. Take out the alcohol, and trade the dirty mattresses' of Spahn, for the hot-tub at Jack Nicholson's and tell me what the difference was between what Charlie was doing versus Roman? Roman has a very dark side and it shows in his work as well. Lets take a quick look at that....


 Roman Polanski knows women because he understands men. He knows both sexes because he understands the games both genders play, either consciously or instinctively. He understands the perversions formed from such relations and translates them into visions that are erotic, disturbing, humorous and, most important, allegorical in their potency. One should not (as so many did with his misunderstood Bitter Moon) take Polanski’s films entirely literally, for they are often heightened versions of what occurs naturally in our world: desire, perversion, repulsion. Film scholar Molly Haskell said that at the core of Polanski’s work is the “image of the anesthetized woman, the beautiful, inarticulate, and possibly even murderous somnambulate.” Her observation is astute, but it’s followed by the criticism that in all of Polanski’s films, including Repulsion, “the titillations of torture are stronger than the bonds of empathy.” Of course. And then, no. And then, of course. Polanski’s removed morality is exactly why he is often brilliant: He is so empathetic to his characters that, like a trauma victim floating above the pain, he is personally impersonal. He insightfully scrutinizes what is so frightening about being human, yet he doesn’t feel the need to be resolute or sentimental about his cognizance. He is also, consciously or subconsciously, aware of the darkness he explores, especially in his female characters, who could be seen as extensions of himself.

- Kim Morgan (Lifework: The Films of Roman Polanski. Chapter 5)

Mr. Polanski's obsessions seem to to have emerged full formed. The series of short films he made in the late 50's and early 60's map out his universe in embryo. His first student film, "Murder" stages in just over a minute a fatal stabbing by penknife: a killing without motive or context, rendered with startling detail and economy. Films like "Teeth Smile, "Break up the Dance," and "The Fat and the Lean", hint at the mind games and power plays. From the start Mr. Polanski was a definitive filmmaker with a penchant for extreme situations. The aura of violence and perversity that surrounded the films suited an enfant terrible who enjoyed notoriety. But the murder of his wife, besides shattering Mr. Polanski's life, turned this convenient master narrative into sick joke. Describing the carnage at his rented Benedict Canyon home, the Satan worship of "Rosemary's Baby" fresh in their minds, journalists could not refrain from comparing it to a movie- specifically a Roman Polanski movie. " It was a scene as grisly as anything depicted in Polanski's film explorations of the dark and melancholy corners of human character," Time Magazine declared. Roger Gunson, the prosecutor assigned to the statutory rape case, prepared for the trial that never happened by taking in a retrospective of his films. " Every Roman Polanski movie has a theme: corruption meeting innocence over water," he says in Marina Zenovich's 2008 documentary " Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired", noting that Mr. Polanski had seduced his underage quarry in a Jacuzzi.

- Dennis Lim ( New York Times)


"Normal love isn't interesting. I assure you that it is incredibly boring."

- Roman Polanski

Strange Fruit. Strange fruit indeed. So I guess this is the part where I point out how hard his childhood was. Doctors of the Psychiatry and Psychology fields would tell you to factor in his upbringing and the extreme hardships he endured. He lost his mother to a concentration camp, and was subject to much prejudiced and shuffling around as a child. He lived in a ghetto, and he pretty much did whatever he could just to get by and survive. But, like many others who went through the same thing, he did survive. After the war he was reunited with his father, who he remained in contact with until the time his father passed in 1984. He had, and has, family contacts to this day. Roman also got into movies very early and was able to enroll in film school and start acting at a young age. He was able to do what he loved and he eventually had tremendous success as a result of it. He had a life that many people would dream of. So, please don't Doctor me to death with the psychology, or cry me a river for Romans childhood. I am sorry for what everyone went through in that age and place, but I do not accept that's a reason for a man to have a life long infatuation with 13 year old girls, or obsess over blood and gore. I can't personally make that leap. But let me tell you more than anything else why I can't stand this bastard:

He had Sharon. He did not value that. He did not protect that. He bragged of infidelity and he made jokes when talking about her slaughter to police. What in the name of Polish ghettos makes that an alright thing to do when you just lost your wife and unborn child?

Polanski's polygraph was conducted by Lieutenant Earl Deemer at Parker Center. ( From H/S)

Q. "Mind if I call you Roman? My name is Earl."

A. "Sure.... I will lie a time or two times during it and I will tell you after, o.k.?"

Really?? I am going to lie, or play coy little games, on my polygraph when we are talking about the very recent slaughter of my wife and unborn child?

Q. "So there was no indication that Sharon went back to Sebring at any time?"

A. "Not a chance! I am the bad one. I always screw around. That was Sharon's big hangup ya know. But Sharon was absolutely not interested in Jay."

Great to brag about being a cheater, Great marriage and family life this guy would have provided for Sharon and his kid... Sigh.

Q. "Do you smoke cigarettes?"

A. Yes." There was a long pause and then Polanski began laughing.

Q. "You know what you are going to do with that screwing around? I/m going to have to start all over again."

A. "Sorry."

Q. "Look at the increase in your heart rate when you lie about the cigarettes.

Are you kidding me? What in the world is funny about anything he is dealing with? What in his past, or which experience justifies goofing off when the police are trying to solve the brutal murder of your family? Please tell me, because this just makes absolutely no sense. This is a man with no soul.

Look it is time to take this home. I do not care who you are in Hollywood, or how many awards you have won. I do not care if Roman Polanski is an amazing Director, or cinematic genius. Roman is as scary a guy as anyone who has ever walked the streets. The warning signs have been flying for 50 years. He has shown us in his actions, movies, words, and "relationships" who he really is. He is not a confused, scarred victim of anything or anyone. He is a smug, arrogant pedophile, who thinks that he has the creative right to do whatever he pleases. We enable him every day that he is allowed to be free. He has the very worst of basic respect and empathy for others and feels no personal responsibility for any actions that he feels are justified to him, regardless of how society and the people who live around him feel about those actions. That is the very definition of a dangerous man. He is capable of doing anything if it suits him. And considering the impulses, fascinations, habits, and history of Roman Polanski- that should scare us all....


                                                               - Your Favorite Saint


Sunday, August 20, 2017

Charles Manson Gets A New Mug Shot

For some reason the video won't embed correctly, but you can view on Huffington Post's site.

Convicted mass murderer Charles Manson has a new mug shot, thanks to officials at Corcoran State Prison in Central California.

Manson is serving nine life sentences at the facility. On Monday, prison officials took a new photograph for security reasons, just in case the 82-year-old manages to escape.

Although the swastika facial tattoo seems especially prominent in the photo, he’s had it for more than 30 years.

TMZ suspects his wrinkles may be accentuating it.



Manson’s last mug shot was made in January, when he was taken to a hospital in Bakersfield for an undisclosed medical issue, according to Reuters.

Manson became infamous in the late 1960s as the leader of a murderous group of mostly female runaways and outcasts known as the Manson Family.

Prosecutors said the murders were part of a plan to incite a race war.

Manson was initially sentenced to death in 1971, but his sentence was converted to life in prison after a California Supreme Court ruling that declared the state’s death penalty law unconstitutional.

Reuters contributed to this report.

Monday, August 14, 2017

Deconstructing Pete Porteous

As everybody gears up over the next couple of years for the Big Fifty it will quickly become evident how much attention this case still attracts after almost half a century. Right now there are probably at least a half dozen projects in the works designed to capitalize on the Golden Anniversary of the Tate-LaBianca murders. Whether it’s books, television, movies, or independent documentaries it is obvious that a market still exists for the TLB Brand and that people are still happy to spend their attention and money on it. But unfortunately there are also people who want to cash in on all of that attention and money. And so in a situation like this you not only have people who want to pay attention but you also have people who want to get it. Therefore, keep an eye out in the coming months for never-before-heard-of childhood friends, old school chums, long-forgotten roommates, distant family members, former neighbors, brief, one-time acquaintances, and any and all manner of other such alleged ancillary characters to the case who want to get a slice of the Death to Piggies Pie. The big problem, though, is that many of these purported peripherals to the case will be imposters. And a prime example of such a mistaken individual is Pete Porteous, the Hollywood stuntman who claims that as a ten-year-old boy he was mentored into the stuntman profession by Donald Jerome “Shorty” Shea at Spahn’s Movie Ranch during the summer of 1969. Porteous’s recollections are particularly remarkable because among them are his memories of being present at the ranch when Charles Manson was beaten up on several occasions by stuntman associates of Shea.

Pete Porteous

Below is a slightly abbreviated version of Porteous’ story as it appeared here on the MF Blog in January of 2015 (You can read the entire article here.):

I Learned to be a Stuntman from Shorty Shea

[Introduction Clipped]

“I would ride to Spahn Ranch on my mini-bike between the ages of 9 or 10 without my mother's knowledge. I was a bit of a black sheep to begin with, but after my dad bought me that mini-bike I was outta control. We lived on the corner of Elizondo Ave. and Currant Ave in Simi Valley.  A flood control wash was right across the street that runs right through the center of Simi. I rode that about 10 miles or so on the hard-packed parts. Then I rode a small service road along the railroad tracks for a few miles to Santa Susana Pass Rd.

“I was fascinated with stuntmen and I wanted to be one even at that early age. I knew Charlie (Manson) by sight and name, but I thought he was a stuntman. I figured everyone at the ranches were stuntmen. I already knew a couple of them from a neighboring ranch called Corriganville Movie Ranch - specifically Jimmy Babcock, Monte Laird and Joe Soto. Those guys would also frequently be at Spahn to do stunts for the various B movies that were filmed there.

[Cut]

“It was actually Charlie who introduced me to Shorty. I asked Charlie how to become a stuntman and he said, "First you have to be one" (He always talked in riddles). He also said, "You'll want to talk to Shorty". So that's when my career as a stuntman first began. My time with him lasted four or five months.

“Shorty was a great guy. He taught me everything like how to take a saddle fall, how to throw a punch and how to take a punch. Most of my friends played sports, but I hung around Shorty. He took the time to show me things. He took a liking to me and an interest in teaching me. He also didn't treat me like a kid. He treated me like an equal. In exchange, I worked for him. I did things like clean horse stalls and other things. For instance, sometimes a ranch customer would be out for a ride and get off the horse to urinate and the horse would run away. So, part of the job was to go find that horse. I really liked it, even cleaning the stalls. If I got there early enough I got to help feed the horses. I loved things like that. My dad was a city boy and didn't like horses but I loved it. I liked cleaning and being a cowboy.

“Charlie was always nice to me. He sometimes would ask to ride my mini-bike. I'd let him and he'd tear around on it and seemed to have fun like a little kid. But, Shorty didn't like Charlie and didn't want me near him. He said, "If you play with a bucket of shit long enough, you're gonna get some on ya". I know that people have the idea that Charlie was in charge of the ranch, but he wasn't. The wranglers thought he was a clown. They laughed at him - never took him seriously. Monte Laird slapped the shit out of Manson twice that I know about. I got there shortly after the first one. I witnessed the second, and Laird sure bloodied him up. I also saw Joe Soto throttle Manson good one day. You gotta remember, these guys were a different breed. If you pissed them off they didn't wonder "hey will this guy call the cops?" No, they'd rough you up and just laugh. Those guys were tougher than any bikers. I know that there are folks out there who see Manson as some mysterious guru, but he was a joke to those guys. I wound up having a long relationship with Joe Soto. From the time I met him as a kid at Corriganville Ranch until he passed away in 2009 at age 80.

“The only other Manson Family person that I had any real exposure to was Tex. The thing I remember best was that he'd take us for ice cream. He had a pickup truck and we'd all (mostly kids and teenage girls) pile in the bed (since it wasn't illegal back then). Tex would spin the truck out leaving the ranch and we'd all slide around and bang into the sides and laugh. He was almost like a kid when we'd go on those ice cream rides. He was always nice to me.



“I remember some of the girls, but I don't remember any of their names because I mostly hung around with the wranglers. I do though remember that sometimes they made brownies and would give me some. I also remember that they liked to take gum wrappers and fold them up to connect to each other and make chains. They had some really long ones going!

“One day I got up early and went to Spahn Ranch because I wanted to help feed the horses. When I got there Shorty wasn't around and the horses had not been fed, so I did it. When I finished I saw Charlie talking to Tex and another guy. I asked about Shorty and Charlie said, "He went away on a trip." When I asked when he'd be back he said he probably wouldn't be back. I was very hurt. Shorty was my teacher and more importantly, my friend. He was also the first adult friend I ever had. It was the first time in my life that my heart was broken.

“I first heard about Shorty's demise at home. My mom watched the news every evening because the Vietnam war was on and we had relatives over there. This one night the ranch was on the news. Miss Pearl (Ruby Pearl) was being interviewed. She said she was worried about Shorty and feared something very very bad had happened…”

Pete Porteous (right) with Eric Estrada (left) at a reunion for the CHiPs television program in Las Vegas, Nevada

Porteous’s story might sound reasonable enough on its face, but once you start to think about it for more than a few minutes it starts to fall apart quickly and completely. The important thing to consider here are the various demonstrable timelines for the persons who were involved with the alleged events that Porteous describes. To begin with, Porteous says that his time as Shorty Shea’s shadow lasted “four or five months.”  Since Shea’s own time ended at the end of August, 1969, four or five months earlier than that (five, to use the outside time estimate) would take us back to the beginning of April, 1969. April through August 1969 — that is the timeline into which Porteous has locked the duration of his alleged association with Donald Shea at Spahn’s Ranch.

Because Donald Shea disappeared on a fairly certain date and was presumed murdered, law enforcement officials put considerable effort into determining his actions in the weeks and months leading up to the date of that disappearance. The results of that effort were testified to by friends of Shea’s at the various trials of the persons eventually convicted of his murder, Charles Manson, Bruce Davis, and Steve Grogan. That testimony reveals an interesting fact, namely that for the vast majority of the time frame given by Pete Porteous as the period he associated with Donald Shea, Donald Shea was no nowhere near Spahn’s Ranch.

Perhaps a little background on Spahn’s Ranch and the situation there in the summer of 1969 would be helpful here. By August of 1969 the nominal “Movie Ranch” already had its best days behind it. Western movies and television shows were losing favor with the public and the demand for western sets for entertainment purposes was no longer great. (Nearby Corriganville, a much larger and more successful movie ranch than Spahn’s, closed its doors in 1965.) In 1969 Spahn’s Ranch mainly supported itself by renting out animals to outside events needing them (circuses and parades, for example) and by renting horses to riders who wanted to explore the rocky hills around the ranch in the Santa Susana Pass area. Spahn’s Ranch was not a bustling money-maker, but was rather a business that was barely getting by. This reality was evidenced by the fact that the wranglers who worked there were not paid any wages for their labors. Instead they got a place to sleep, meals to eat, and occasional cash allowances to buy such necessities as work clothes, gloves, and cigarettes. Spahn’s Ranch was not a place where anybody was likely to make a lot of money in show business, and thus there were no actual “stuntmen” hanging out there unless they had a real, paying job to perform, which, in the summer of 1969, none of them did. Most of the people who did work at the ranch could be classed as “down and outers,” people with nowhere else to go who were happy to exchange a day’s labor for a day’s place to stay. In August of 1969 Donald Shea was just such a person. He had no job, his wife had left him, and he was living in his car.

But what was Donald Shea doing before that? By examining the testimony of witnesses at the several murder trials held in connection with Shea’s disappearance we can construct a fairly complete timeline of where Donald Shea was before his arrival at Spahn’s Ranch in the middle of August, 1969.

We know from trial testimony from various prosecution witnesses that in the summer of 1968 Shea spent some time working at a salt manufacturing facility in the Vallejo, California area before returning to Los Angeles in the latter part of the year and taking up residence at Jerry Binder’s house at 8010 Hollywood Boulevard. Jerry Binder was a longtime friend and frequent employer of Donald Shea. He often let Shea live in his residences and loaned him money on many occasions when Shea had the need.

While staying at Binder’s Hollywood house Shea helped Binder with his mail order business selling adult literature and novelties from out of the house. Business was good, so Binder set up several shops where such merchandise could be purchased in person. Shea helped Binder with the setup of one such store in Las Vegas and then began working at Binder’s L.A. enterprise, the Hollywood Shopper book store.

Jerry Binder’s house on Hollywood Boulevard where Donald Shea lived in the spring of 1969

At some point in “the beginning of ’69,” according to Jerry Binder, Donald Shea was back in Las Vegas assisting with the physical work (setting up shelves, hanging signs, doing fixit work, etc.) involved with launching several of Binder's adult-oriented retail enterprises (the Swingers Boutique, the House of Paperbacks, and Book City) in the city. Shea worked at several of Binder’s retail outlets, waiting on customer and doing other odd jobs around the premises. At one of Binder’s establishments Shea was entrusted with keys to the business and acted as a sort of assistant manager. By April he was back in L.A. and hired by another friend of Binder’s, a Mr. Bromberg, to work at one of Bromberg’s drinking establishments. This time sequence is established in the testimony at the Grogan trial for Donald Shea’s murder when defense attorney Charles Weedman asked Binder when Shea started working in Bromberg’s beer bar:

“Do you recall when Mr. Shea was hired by Mr. Bromberg for the first time to work at one of his beer bars?”

“I can’t recall the exact date, no,” Binder replied.

“If I told you that it was around May of 1969 would that be…. substantially correct in your judgment?“

“No, I don’t think it was that late. It was earlier than that.”

So, starting earlier than May 1969 Shea was working in one of Mr. Bromberg’s beer joints in Los Angeles and was not at Spahn’s Movie Ranch working as a cowboy or stuntman.

Jerry Binder testified that Shea started working at Binder’s Swingers Boutique adult entertainment store in Las Vegas from the end of May and for “a little over a month.” If Binder’s testimony is to be believed (and he was a prosecution witness) that means that Shea was not in Los Angeles (much less at Spahn’s Ranch) for almost all of June of 1969.

Shea must have been in Los Angeles at some point in June of 1969, though, because Spahn’s Ranch forewoman Ruby Pearl recalled seeing him not at the ranch but at her house on DeSoto Street in Chatsworth where he picked up some photographic negatives featuring him at various jobs that he wanted to have printed up as part of his job-seeking resume. Regardless of that brief encounter, however, Pearl must not have seen Shea at Spahn’s Ranch in June because if she had she would have so testified later.

Ruby Pearl

On July 1, 1969, while still in Las Vegas, Shea married Magdalene Velma “Nikki” Fuery, a black topless dancer he had met earlier in Carson, California. The couple immediately encountered problems in Vegas, mostly to do with the fact that not too many people were willing to rent housing to a biracial couple. Thus Shea’s wife then left for L.A., according to Jerry Binder, “after a couple or two [sic] weeks.” Shea followed her, Binder continued, on “approximately the 25th [of July] — no wait. It had to be around the 30th.” Again, if Binder’s testimony is believed, that means that Shea was not in Los Angeles (much less at Spahn’s Ranch) for all of July of 1969.

Shea’s precise whereabouts in the first weeks of August are not known, but we can determine from Ruby Pearl testimonies that although Shea had been an on again/off again habitué of Spahn’s Ranch for about fifteen years in the summer of 1969 she did not see him there until after the raid of August 16. From that time on Shea began living at the ranch in his car and she said she saw him on a daily basis. So, Shea apparently was not at Spahn’s Ranch during the first half of August.

All of this testimony presents a pretty convincing argument that Donald Shea was only sporadically in Los Angeles from late 1968 until mid-August of 1969 and that when Shea was in L.A. he was not at Spahn’s Ranch.

But still another indication that Shea was not in Los Angeles for the greater part of 1969 came in the testimony of Arch Hall, another Los Angeles-area friend of Shea’s who had loaned Shea money to buy a pair of matched western revolvers. Hall loaned Shea the money in August of 1968. Then, he didn’t hear from Shea again for a long time, which was unusual because when Shea was in Los Angeles he usually checked in with him at least every few weeks about employment opportunities.  At the Shea murder trial of Bruce Davis, L.A. Deputy District Attorney Stephen Kay asked Hall, “Now between the time that he purchased the guns from you in August of ’68 until the time he called in late July or early August ’69, had you heard from him?”

“No, I had not…. He said the he was very sorry that he hadn’t gotten back to take care of the payment [for the loan for the two guns]; and that he had been out of the [state] — I think he said he had been married in the meantime, and that he would come by in a few days and settle up and pick up the cameras and pay me the balance on the guns…. I gave [the time of the call] considerable thought before, and I think it was around the middle of August.”

Hall never heard from Shea again.

Now we have a fairly complete and convincing timeline showing that Donald Shea was not at Spahn’s Movie Ranch at the time Pete Porteous claims to have been with him there, from April to August of 1969. Shea’s whereabouts elsewhere are partially documented for the latter part of 1968 up until May of ’69, and are well documented for June, July, and August of '69. (And it could be added here that if Porteous was at Spahn’s Ranch for any amount of time in April or May of 1969 he must have been skipping a considerable amount of his school classes. That’s not an impossibility, of course, but the reader might want to consider the likelihood that a ten-year-old boy would be truant from school for two months in 1969.)

Not only was Donald Shea not at Spahn’s Ranch when Porteous says he knew him there, but the other people described by Porteous as being present were also very likely not there. Monty Laird worked at nearby Corriganville, but there is no record of him working at Spahn’s Ranch in the summer of 1969. Joe Soto is another stuntman claimed by Porteous to have been at Spahn’s. But in 1969 Joe Soto was forty years old and had, according to his obituary, begun a 25-year stint working as a heavy equipment operator four years earlier, in 1965. (Perhaps not coincidentally, Corriganville closed in 1965.) Is it believable that Soto would take a several-months-long break from his burgeoning career operating heavy machinery in the spring and summer of 1969 so he could hang around Spahn’s Ranch hoping to pick up work as a stuntman? (In her trial testimony during the Shea multi-murder trials Spahn’s Ranch forewoman Ruby Pearl said that the only people working as ranch hands in the summer of 1969 were Randy Starr, Larry Craven, Bennie Dietrich, and, later, John Schwarz and Juan Flynn -- not Monte Laird, Joe Soto, or even Donald Shea.)

Another factor which casts doubt on Porteous’ recollections of his life at Spahn’s Ranch are those very recollections, especially the memories of the bad blood and numerous violent encounters between Shea and his stuntman friends and Charles Manson, two of which encounters Porteous claims to have actually witnessed.

Ruby Pearl worked for George Spahn for almost twenty years. In the summer of 1969 she worked at the ranch every day, seven days a week, from mid-morning to late in the evening. She oversaw the operation of just about every aspect of the ranch. If there had been enough disharmony to result in multiple violent encounters she certainly would have known about it. But she never had any such recollection. In fact, aside from a few incidents when “Family” vehicles got too close to horseback riders on one of the riding trails, she recalled no trouble at all  between Manson and his friends and the other people at the ranch.

“We liked ‘em all,” Pearl later testified about Manson and the people with him. “George liked them, and I liked them.”

“You liked Mr. Manson?” asked Manson defense attorney Irving Kanarek.

“We never had an argument. Never had an argument.”

“You never had any argument with Mr. Manson at all?”

“No.”

“Right?”

Right.”

“And you never saw Mr. Manson have any argument with anyone else?”

“No.”

“Right?”

“Right.”

It is pretty clear from that testimony that Spahn’s Ranch was a relatively harmonious place in the spring and early summer of 1969 and not a place where ranch denizens were regularly getting into violent confrontations with visiting stuntmen. (If it had been, the ever-present and all-seeing Ruby Pearl would have been well aware of such incidents. Not to mention all of the other persons who were unquestionably present at the ranch who also don’t recall such violent episodes. And also not to mention that such a violent undercurrent between Manson and Shea would surely have been known to the prosecution during the Shea murder trials and they just as surely would have introduced evidence of such an undercurrent to support their theory that “The Family” had something to do with Shea’s disappearance.)

There are still other thoughts that I’ve had about Pete Porteous’ claims that I have expressed here. I would encourage interested parties to read those thoughts and add them to the information that has been presented here. Because when you read those thoughts and consider what I’ve shown here I’m sure you’ll agree that it’s very reasonable to conclude that neither Donald Shea nor any of his supposed cowboy compadres were at Spahn’s Ranch when Pete Porteous claims they were there. And thus we also can state with near certainty that Porteous’ claims of ongoing hostility and violence between Manson and Porteous’ stuntman pals are also without foundation.

So, in the final analysis you can take Pete Porteous’ reminiscences about his life at Spahn’s Ranch and file them along with the fake mug shots, phony personalities, and outlandish new lies (e.g., Jeff Guinn’s recent uncontested Dateline assertion that Charles Manson went to the Polanski residence after the murders there and draped an American flag over the back of the couch) as an insult to anyone who considers themselves to be a serious student of this case. Because I don’t think it’s likely that Pete Porteous ever met or knew Donald Shea. He probably met or knew Monty Laird and Joe Soto. He might even have been to Spahn’s Ranch at some time in his childhood. But otherwise, Pete Porteous is a fantasist, a fabulist, and a fraud. He is like countless other individuals who have dishonestly latched onto the Tata-LaBianca murder case in order to attract attention to themselves.

I’ve been asked, “If he’s making it up, why?” I’m not inside Pete Porteous’ mind, so I can’t definitively answer that question. But perhaps getting attention is enough of a motive. Perhaps, like his supposed mentor, he is a dreamer seeking stardom. And perhaps the only way he can get some sort of stardom is to claim that he was buddies with tough guys who beat up Charles Manson. But whatever the motivation, it doesn’t justify what he is doing. For by fabricating a relationship with Donald Shea Porteous actually dishonors the hapless, would-be stuntman he so ardently claims to admire. And in doing so he cheapens Shea’s life by using Shea and his unfortunate demise as props in the furtherance of his own publicity-seeking agenda.

Pete Porteous and Matt at Spahn’s Movie Ranch on the MF Blog 2015 Tour. (And yes, that’s Stoner and St. Circumstance hitting a pipe in the background.)


Pete Porteous’ bio on IMBd

Pete Porteous accidentally gets shot while performing in a mock gunfight

Pete Porteous fantasizing  about his time with Donald Shea at Spahn’s Ranch on You Tube

The Indiegogo fundraising page for one of Pete Porteous’ recent film projects