Cappy continues to speak with Charlie frequently on the phone. We know this 100% to be true.
We don't know for certain if she speaks with any of the other former Family members.
Monday, December 12, 2011
Catherine Gillies
Cappy continues to speak with Charlie frequently on the phone. We know this 100% to be true.
We don't know for certain if she speaks with any of the other former Family members.
Sunday, December 11, 2011
Manson Memorabilia for sale
Facebook site that sells Manson memorabilia. It appears to be run by Michael from Back Porch Tapes. They also have photos of peoples Manson collections which I found interesting.
The Alcala Connection
Rodney James Alcala, aka "The Dating Game Killer," was a winning Bachelor #1 on the Dating game in 1978 right in the middle of his killing spree. Though his confirmed victim count is currently five with two more on the way, it is thought that he may have killed as many as 130 people. He is eerily connected to our main subject of study in the following ways:
-Alcala attended New York University using the alias "John Berger", where he studied film under Roman Polanski.
-Alcala committed his first known crime in 1968: A motorist in Los Angeles witnessed him luring an eight-year-old girl named Tali Shapiro into his Hollywood apartment and called police. If indeed Tex was a budding serial killer during this time as some have speculated, he would definitely have had competition from this dude.
-In 1977, NYPD cold-case investigators now believe that one week after arriving in Manhattan, Alcala killed Ellen Jane Hover, 23, goddaughter of Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr.
-Alcala attended New York University using the alias "John Berger", where he studied film under Roman Polanski.
-Alcala committed his first known crime in 1968: A motorist in Los Angeles witnessed him luring an eight-year-old girl named Tali Shapiro into his Hollywood apartment and called police. If indeed Tex was a budding serial killer during this time as some have speculated, he would definitely have had competition from this dude.
-In 1977, NYPD cold-case investigators now believe that one week after arriving in Manhattan, Alcala killed Ellen Jane Hover, 23, goddaughter of Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr.
If you want to, you can view Alcala's collection of unidetified photographs which were released in March, 2010 at http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Serial-Killer-Rodney-Alcalas-Photos-Released-Can-You-ID-Any-Of-These-Women-91752849.html . His work is beautiful, but haunting and often stomach churning. Recognize anyone?
Saturday, December 10, 2011
E-bay round up
Gypsy's record singing as "Charity Shayne" for sale on E-bay.3 bidders at $21.50 ends in 23 hours.
Some Tex pics $14.99 ends in one day with one bid.
I am to lazy to provide the links. Just type Charles Manson in the search box.
Manson Behind The Scenes by Bill Nelson- one buy it now for $49.99 with 10 days left.
A few copies of "Desert Shadows" as well as Texes book and "Taming the Beast."
Nicknames
Ken's previous post reminded me of something. During an interview with Stephanie Schram on Brian Davis' site, Star City Radio (link below). Stephanie mentioned everything happened so long ago she can't remember all of it.
You might remember Dianne Lake contacted me back in August. Since then, Dianne and I have kept in contact with each other. She has gone on to lead a much deserved normal life, marrying and having three children and beautiful grandchildren.
Like Stephanie, while questioning Dianne, there were also a few things she could not remember.
It was over 40 years ago. Shit, I personally can't remember stuff that happened last week.
I asked Dianne if the girls came with their nicknames or were they bestowed upon them by certain people as we have read. Dianne offered me what she could recall and her permission to share it with the blog.
Since she could not remember 100 percent, Matt did not consider it blog worthy, but I do.
I really, really hope Matt does not fire me for posting this.
Dianne- a.k.a."Snake." - It was while we were living on Summit Trail and the weather was very hot. While sitting with Lynn and Sandy, I imagined myself as a snake slithering through the cool, tall green grass. I shared my thoughts with Lynn and Sandy who in turn told the others. From that day on I was called Snake."
Lynn- a.k.a. "Squeaky" - Lynn's laughter sounded like a "squeak." George Spahn found her squeaky laugh amusing and gave her the nickname "Squeaky."
Ruth Ann- a.k.a. "Ouish" - One of the children could not pronounce Ruth Ann. It would come out sounding like "ouish". From then on Ruth Ann was called "Ouish."
Cathy Gillies a.k.a. "Cappy"
Cahterine Share a.k.a-"Gypsy" both girls arrived already with their nicknames.
http://www.starcityradio.com/live.html- Check out our buddy Brian Davis' Star Radio interviews with Stephanie Schram and Matthew Roberts.
You might remember Dianne Lake contacted me back in August. Since then, Dianne and I have kept in contact with each other. She has gone on to lead a much deserved normal life, marrying and having three children and beautiful grandchildren.
Like Stephanie, while questioning Dianne, there were also a few things she could not remember.
It was over 40 years ago. Shit, I personally can't remember stuff that happened last week.
I asked Dianne if the girls came with their nicknames or were they bestowed upon them by certain people as we have read. Dianne offered me what she could recall and her permission to share it with the blog.
Since she could not remember 100 percent, Matt did not consider it blog worthy, but I do.
I really, really hope Matt does not fire me for posting this.
Dianne- a.k.a."Snake." - It was while we were living on Summit Trail and the weather was very hot. While sitting with Lynn and Sandy, I imagined myself as a snake slithering through the cool, tall green grass. I shared my thoughts with Lynn and Sandy who in turn told the others. From that day on I was called Snake."
Lynn- a.k.a. "Squeaky" - Lynn's laughter sounded like a "squeak." George Spahn found her squeaky laugh amusing and gave her the nickname "Squeaky."
Ruth Ann- a.k.a. "Ouish" - One of the children could not pronounce Ruth Ann. It would come out sounding like "ouish". From then on Ruth Ann was called "Ouish."
Cathy Gillies a.k.a. "Cappy"
Cahterine Share a.k.a-"Gypsy" both girls arrived already with their nicknames.
http://www.starcityradio.com/live.html- Check out our buddy Brian Davis' Star Radio interviews with Stephanie Schram and Matthew Roberts.
Wondering
I sometimes wonder why Bobby and Bruce are still rotting away in prison.
FROM http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Parole/Life_Parole_Process/Index.html
Lifer Parole Process Parole Hearings
Only inmates sentenced to life in prison(Indeterminate Sentenced), with the possibility of parole, are subject to suitability hearings by the BPH.
Some life inmates are sentenced without the possibility of parole. All prison inmates in California who are not serving life sentences (known as Determinate Sentences) are released on parole after serving the sentence imposed by the court and are supervised by the Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Inmates serving life sentences become eligible for parole hearings automatically, one year prior to their minimum eligible parole date (MEPD). Being scheduled for a parole hearing is no indication of the inmate’s suitability for release from prison.
Whether inmates are found suitable for parole is a judgment of the BPH hearing panel. These inmates are sentenced to the possibility of parole, not the assurance of it, recognizing that their maximum potential sentence is life. It is not uncommon for inmates to receive many parole hearings before they are found suitable for release. By law, inmates can be found unsuitable for parole for the following denial lengths: 15, 10, 3, 5 or 7 years. Suitability criteria Parole hearings are not to decide guilt or innocence. The BPH accepts as fact the guilty verdict imposed by the courts.
I assume the paragraph below contains one or more reasons Bobby and Bruce are still incarcerated. Maybe they have not complied with ALL the conditions.
The purpose of a parole hearing is to determine if or when an inmate can be returned to society. Under normal circumstances, the panel or the Board shall set a release date unless it determines that the gravity of the crime (offense), or the timing and gravity of current or past convictions, requires a more lengthy period of incarceration to ensure public safety. In general, some of the factors considered by the panel and which are discussed in the hearing include:counseling reports and psychological evaluations behavior in prison (ie, disciplinary notices or laudatory accomplishments) vocational and educational accomplishments in prison involvement in self-help therapy programs that can range from anti-addiction programs for drugs and alcohol to anger management parole plans, including where an inmate would live and support themselves if they were released.
Some say they are political prisoners. I looked up the definition of "political prisoner." political prisoner- noun
A person who has been imprisoned for holding or advocating dissenting political views.
Are the Manson crimes political views?
FROM http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Parole/Life_Parole_Process/Index.html
Lifer Parole Process Parole Hearings
Only inmates sentenced to life in prison(Indeterminate Sentenced), with the possibility of parole, are subject to suitability hearings by the BPH.
Some life inmates are sentenced without the possibility of parole. All prison inmates in California who are not serving life sentences (known as Determinate Sentences) are released on parole after serving the sentence imposed by the court and are supervised by the Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Inmates serving life sentences become eligible for parole hearings automatically, one year prior to their minimum eligible parole date (MEPD). Being scheduled for a parole hearing is no indication of the inmate’s suitability for release from prison.
Whether inmates are found suitable for parole is a judgment of the BPH hearing panel. These inmates are sentenced to the possibility of parole, not the assurance of it, recognizing that their maximum potential sentence is life. It is not uncommon for inmates to receive many parole hearings before they are found suitable for release. By law, inmates can be found unsuitable for parole for the following denial lengths: 15, 10, 3, 5 or 7 years. Suitability criteria Parole hearings are not to decide guilt or innocence. The BPH accepts as fact the guilty verdict imposed by the courts.
I assume the paragraph below contains one or more reasons Bobby and Bruce are still incarcerated. Maybe they have not complied with ALL the conditions.
The purpose of a parole hearing is to determine if or when an inmate can be returned to society. Under normal circumstances, the panel or the Board shall set a release date unless it determines that the gravity of the crime (offense), or the timing and gravity of current or past convictions, requires a more lengthy period of incarceration to ensure public safety. In general, some of the factors considered by the panel and which are discussed in the hearing include:counseling reports and psychological evaluations behavior in prison (ie, disciplinary notices or laudatory accomplishments) vocational and educational accomplishments in prison involvement in self-help therapy programs that can range from anti-addiction programs for drugs and alcohol to anger management parole plans, including where an inmate would live and support themselves if they were released.
Some say they are political prisoners. I looked up the definition of "political prisoner." political prisoner- noun
A person who has been imprisoned for holding or advocating dissenting political views.
Are the Manson crimes political views?
Friday, December 9, 2011
Folsom Prison
Then...
...And Now
Folsom Prison was home to Charles Manson from October 1972 to May of 1976, and to James Terrell "Spider" Craig from 1973 until 1978. Today, there are two prisons in the town of Represa, CA 95671: Folsom State Prison, and California State Prison, Sacramento which was initially meant to be an addition to the main building. The word "represa" in Spanish means "dam," because as you can see the prison sits adjacent to the Folsom Dam which forms Folsom Lake.
Notice that just across the waters lies the extremely expensive community of Granite Bay, CA. Patty finds it ironic that both society's unwanted and those who have aspired to the top of the American Dream are both distanced from the rest of us, yet so very close together: It was in Granite Bay that NBA player "Meta World Peace" (formerly Ron Artest) was arrested for animal cruelty. It was also in Granite Bay where 15 year old Tylar Witt and her boyfriend killed her mom Joanne Witt in her sleep, having drugged her first. And just this week, it was discovered that a lead psychologist at Represa, Laurie Ann Martinez, has been arrested for making fake rape and burglary charges at home to get her husband to move to a nicer neighborhood (like, Granite Bay, maybe?)
And they asked him why he wears black...
above: Johnny Cash plays Folsom Prison, 1968. Below: Cash givin' it to The Man
...And Now
Folsom Prison was home to Charles Manson from October 1972 to May of 1976, and to James Terrell "Spider" Craig from 1973 until 1978. Today, there are two prisons in the town of Represa, CA 95671: Folsom State Prison, and California State Prison, Sacramento which was initially meant to be an addition to the main building. The word "represa" in Spanish means "dam," because as you can see the prison sits adjacent to the Folsom Dam which forms Folsom Lake.
Notice that just across the waters lies the extremely expensive community of Granite Bay, CA. Patty finds it ironic that both society's unwanted and those who have aspired to the top of the American Dream are both distanced from the rest of us, yet so very close together: It was in Granite Bay that NBA player "Meta World Peace" (formerly Ron Artest) was arrested for animal cruelty. It was also in Granite Bay where 15 year old Tylar Witt and her boyfriend killed her mom Joanne Witt in her sleep, having drugged her first. And just this week, it was discovered that a lead psychologist at Represa, Laurie Ann Martinez, has been arrested for making fake rape and burglary charges at home to get her husband to move to a nicer neighborhood (like, Granite Bay, maybe?)
And they asked him why he wears black...
above: Johnny Cash plays Folsom Prison, 1968. Below: Cash givin' it to The Man
Thursday, December 8, 2011
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)