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Tuesday, May 17, 2016
Fountain of the World Bombing
This was published in June 1967 in Police Detective magazine quite a few months before Charlie and Co. arrived at Spahn Ranch. Some crazy shit was happening up in them thar hills!
Thursday, May 12, 2016
Joel Pugh's Death Abroad and His San Francisco Address
When an American citizen dies outside of the United States a Report of a Death of an American Citizen form is filled out. This form falls under the purview of the US State Department and is filled out by the American consulate or embassy officials in the country where the American citizen died.
Such a form was generated upon the December 2, 1969 death of Joel Pugh in London England.
A few years ago Simon Wells posted Joel's activities leading up to his unfortunate death at his blog. Wells interviewed friends and family of Joel who gave candid insight about Joel's mental decline. It goes a long way to debunk the notion that his death was a murder. It seems fairly clear to me that Joel's death was indeed due to suicide. It was not another death supposedly at the hands of a Family member, namely in this case, Bruce Davis.
Joel Pugh's last known address in the US was 27 Carl Street San Francisco CA. This address is considered to be in Cole Valley in the Haight-Ashbury district according to real estate websites. The Zillow listing for this property, which is "off market", says that it is a condo with 1000sf, --bedrooms and 1 bathroom. It looks like the home was converted to 2 or 3 condos. The current market value of this particular condo is $1,022,814. and it has a rental estimate of $4,395.!!!
Joel's unit is accessed through a gate to the right of the home. A big thank you to Stoner for getting the pictures for the blog while on a day "trip" to Haight-Ashbury!
Such a form was generated upon the December 2, 1969 death of Joel Pugh in London England.
A few years ago Simon Wells posted Joel's activities leading up to his unfortunate death at his blog. Wells interviewed friends and family of Joel who gave candid insight about Joel's mental decline. It goes a long way to debunk the notion that his death was a murder. It seems fairly clear to me that Joel's death was indeed due to suicide. It was not another death supposedly at the hands of a Family member, namely in this case, Bruce Davis.
Joel Pugh's last known address in the US was 27 Carl Street San Francisco CA. This address is considered to be in Cole Valley in the Haight-Ashbury district according to real estate websites. The Zillow listing for this property, which is "off market", says that it is a condo with 1000sf, --bedrooms and 1 bathroom. It looks like the home was converted to 2 or 3 condos. The current market value of this particular condo is $1,022,814. and it has a rental estimate of $4,395.!!!
Joel's unit is accessed through a gate to the right of the home. A big thank you to Stoner for getting the pictures for the blog while on a day "trip" to Haight-Ashbury!
I wondered whether or not the Carl Street address was associated with the Family in any way even though there is no evidence that anyone connected to the Family other than Sandy Good knew Joel. Surprise, surprise! I found a distant connection to Carl Street. There is no limit to the degrees of separation or synchronicity when it comes to the Family.
The connection came in the form of a post made by Matt, here at the blog back in October 2014. Remember Jan Holstrom, the man that threw a flammable liquid on Charlie Manson and set him afire while in Vacaville Prison in 1984? After Holstrom, a Hare Krishna devotee, was released from prison he first lived in Berkeley at a Hare Krishna temple. When that temple moved to San Francisco Holstrom moved with them. Holstrom made the news in 1995 when he stabbed a fellow Krishna. The new temple was located at 84 Carl Street, on the same block, across the street and down a few doors, from Joel Pugh's old home. What are the odds?
The Krishna temple sits between a café and small city park, it is still functioning as an academic center for the group.
Monday, May 9, 2016
If Leslie Van Houten is Paroled, What Effect Could That Have on The Other TLB Killers?
In April parole was approved for Leslie Van Houten. The decision will now undergo administrative review by the Board of Parole Hearings. If upheld it goes to Gov. Jerry Brown, who has the final word on whether the now-66-year-old Van Houten is released. But what possible effect could this have on the rest of the imprisoned killers - Patricia Krenwinkel, Charles Watson, Bobby Beausoleil, Bruce Davis and even Charles Manson?
One school of thought is that while Leslie Van Houten wasn't convicted of Sharon Tate’s murder she was part of a collective trial (Tate/LaBianca). Because she was part of a collective trial the ramifications of Van Houten getting a recommendation for parole could have a snowball effect of every victim and next of kin from the collective TLB trials. Why? Because apparently there's a law that opens the doors to all co-defendants. What is sure to happen is that Krenwinkel, Watson and even Manson can now ask for advanced hearings based on "new evidence". The new evidence being that Van Houten was deemed a non-threat to society - if she's a non-threat, then the others are entitled to that as well. In essence they will all probably get a new hearing if Gov. Brown doesn't veto the recommendation of Van Houten’s parole.
We spoke with an attorney versed in California criminal law who gave a differing and multi-faceted view. He said this:
While LVH was initially tried, and convicted, in a trial of which multiple defendants were held, the "collective" crime was also part known as a conspiracy, for which there is no what goes for one, goes for all rule. Remember, LVH's conviction was overturned, she was retried, for which a mistrial was granted, and then convicted in a third trial, for a crime that the others were not charged with. The applicable theory of law was the Felony Murder Rule, for which a murder occurred during the commission of another felony, that being robbery. That was a different charge than all of the others, so this claim could be countered with that fact. Different crimes, different defendants, different results.Which way will Governor Brown go? Will he block Van Houten's parole, or will he allow it to stand? If he stands aside and allows her to go free - the question remains - what ripple effect could it have?
While this is a novel concept, I do not see it being successful. I am not aware of any case law directly on point, but it would not prevent someone from attempting to make the claim in a motion. However, I do not see the courts accepting such a claim. The remaining inmates would be better off arguing the cost of incarcerating aged inmates versus the cost of being released into society with supervised parole. As screwed up as that is, sadly many in society would be more willing to accept that argument.
There is no clear indication of what Jerry Brown may do. He is walking a fine line of political philosophy versus his legacy. While he denied Bruce Davis, he did not oppose both Schoenfeld Brothers for their role in the infamous Chowchilla kidnappings. Most Californians opposed those rulings, but he did not hesitate. These two men, though no one died, were not, and still are not, any less dangerous than convicted members of the Manson family. However, the third co-conspirator, Fredrick Woods, was denied parole, partly due to his minimizing his responsibility in the crimes, as well as disciplinary problems. My point here is that even in parole, no two considerations are the same, so much as on stands alone for their crime, they stand alone for parole as well.
Saturday, May 7, 2016
The 2017 Manson Blog Tour
The dates of the 2017 Tour won't be announced until January or February, but it normally takes place late April to early May. If anyone is interested in attending please email either myself or Deb. There's no charge, but you need to make your own travel, lodging and other arrangements.
The itinerary is never announced before the Tour because frankly we never decide what we will do and see until it gets very close. The links below will give you an idea of what it's like.
Past tour links:
MansonBlog Tour 2016 - Jane Doe #59
MansonBlog Tour 2016: The Gun Toss And Steven Weiss' House
MansonBlog Tour 2016: Independence, CA
MansonBlog Tour 2016: Death Valley, The Racetrack Playa and The Michigan Loader Site
MansonBlog Tour 2016: Nude Hippies And The Origin Of An Icon
MansonBlog Tour 2016: The End Of Summit Trail
Manson Tour 2015: Earth Day at Spahn Ranch
Manson Tour 2015: A Discussion With George Stimson: Part I
Manson Tour 2015: A Discussion With George Stimson: Part II
Manson Tour 2015: Olancha - Karl Stubbs' Neighbor and Hannum Ranch
Manson Tour 2015: Goler Wash
Manson Tour 2015: Gary Hinman's Bus -- Not
Manson Tour 2015: Benedict Canyon and the Surrounding Areas: Report on Strange Sounds, Gunshots, Indications of Violence, Related by Persons who were in Hearing Distance of the Polanski Residence on the Night of 8-8-69 and the Morning of 8-9-69
Manson Tour 2014: Stoner's Spahn Ranch Hike
Manson Tour 2014: The Museum of Death and The Sounds of Laurel Canyon
Manson Tour 2014: A Day With Aes-Nihil
Holy Cross
2013 Tour - Robert Hendrickson at The Silent Theatre
2013 Tour - Cielo Drive
2013 Tour - Easton Drive / Rudy Weber
2013 Tour - LaBianca
2013 Tour - El Coyote
2013 Tour - Lotsapoppa
2013 Tour - Westchester/Venice
2013 Tour - Hanging out with Michael on his Back Porch!
2013 Tour - Spahn/Chatsworth
2012 Tour Day 1 - Vegas & Pahrump
2012 Tour Day 2 - Devil's Hole, Father Crowley Point & Olancha
2012 Tour Day 3 - Trona, Ballarat & Barker Ranch
2012 Tour Day 4 - El Coyote
2012 Tour Day 5 - Lower Topanga, Spahn, Box Canyon
Wednesday, May 4, 2016
The End Of Summit Trail
Not two weeks after the arrest of Manson et al. on Deer Creek Road in Ventura County the group again found itself under assault from law enforcement. It was May 2, 1968, and this time the incident occurred and the end of Summit Trail, an isolated location high up at the end of a series of narrow, twisting roads running off of Topanga Canyon Road. The group began staying at this property, which at the time included a vacant house, after their time at the so-called “Spiral Staircase House” behind the Topanga Shopping Center at the intersection of Topanga Canyon Road and the Pacific Coast Highway (California Highway 1).
According to the Sheriff’s report of the incident:
“Acting of information from above informant that above house is being used as a crash pad by narcotics addicts and runaways, writer, Sgt. Salerno, Deps. Rodriguez and Redddy with the assistance of car 103…. proceeded to above location.
“Upon arrival writer observed suspect Manson standing in front of the house.
“Writer identified himself by displaying his badge and stated Sheriff narcotic officers were conducting a narcotic investigation. Suspect Manson replied OK, come in the house, I’ll show you around. Upon entering suspect # 2 was observed lying on a bed, suspects #3, #4, and #5 observed milling about. Approximately five (5) minutes later suspects # 6 and #7 entered with Sgt. Salerno who stated they were in a bus adjacent to the house.
“After exiting the house with all the suspects in our presence, writer observed and heard suspect Manson lean over to suspect Hall and in a low voice said, “Go sit in the chair,” writer observed suspect Hall walk to a chair and sit down. Writer requested suspect suspect [sic] Hall to stand up, to which he complied. A check of the chair revealed evidence held items #1, #2, #3 and #4 on the ground under the chair.
“Writer then displayed the evidence to all suspects and stated, “Do you know what this is and does it belong to any of you”, all suspects remained silent. Suspects were then placed under arrest for possession of marijuana and advised of their rights per SH-AD-477. Each suspect stated he understood his rights.
“Suspect Manson stated that the marijuana could belong to anyone, as a lot of people stay here. Suspects were transported to Malibu Sheriff’s Station by car 103…. and booked on above charge.
“During booking procedure item # 5 was found in left front shirt pocket of suspect Hall. During booking procedures Matron Shirle Smith found item # 6 on suspect Good’s person. Suspect Manson was again shown the evidence, item # 1, #2, #3 and #4 and asked if it was his, suspect stated, no it could belong to anyone of many people. When asked if he smoked marijuana, suspect stated yes. When asked why he told suspect Hall to sit in the chair, evidence recovered, suspect stated I was trying to keep the guys out of your way, so you could do your job.
“Suspect Hall was again shown the evidence #1, #2, #3 and #4, and asked if it was his, suspect stated, No. When asked if he had seen the evidence before suspect stated, I might have, but I can’t say for sure. When asked if he smoked marijuana, suspect stated, yes, but I haven’t for approximately five (5) days. When shown the driver license, evidence held item # 2, and asked if it was his, suspect stated no. When advised that the picture on the license looked like him, suspect stated OK it’s mine, it’s a false name and license.
“When asked how it got into evidence held item #2, suspect stated I don’t know. When again asked about the evidence, suspect stated I don’t know a thing about the marijuana.
“Suspect Good was again shown evidence held item # 1, #2, #3 and #4 and asked if it was hers, suspect stated, no, never saw it before. When asked if she smoked marijuana suspect stated, yes, but I don’t like it. When asked where she got the capsules [item # 6], suspect stated from Gary Hinman in Topanga.
“Suspect #4, #5, #6 and #7, refused to make any statements.
“Evidence transported to L.A. Sheriff’s crime lab for analysis.
“The facts of this cased will be presented to Santa Monica branch of the Los Angeles District Attorney Office for their consideration towards a complaint.”
Evidence seized during this raid included a quart of marijuana seeds in a glass bottle (item # 1), a little over two ounces of pot (items # 2, 3, and 4), three pills (item # 6), and some driver's licenses of questionable authenticity.
Taken into custody and detained at the Malibu station of the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Office were Charles Manson (suspect # 1), Sandra Good (suspect # 2), Bruce Vann Hall (suspect # 3), Robert Earl Murray (suspect # 4), Louis Covell (suspect # 5), Bruce Davis (suspect # 6), and Diane Bluestein (Diane Lake, suspect # 7)).
Below, the Sheriff's report of the incident at the end of Summit Trail:
Charles Manson was charged with violation of Section 11530 of the Health and Safety Code, possession of marijuana. On his booking record his address was listed as "transient 'bus'" and his occupation was listed as "musician -- unemployed."
Manson's booking record for possession of marijuana
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Summit Trail Today
The location of the bust on Summit Trail was another of the destinations for the 2016 MF Blog Tour. The end of the trail is still remote and rustic today; it was easy to get lost in the tight maze of "trails" and we made a couple of wrong turns before we finally arrived at the correct spot. When we got there an older gentleman was leaning on the fence in front of the house at the end of the trail, almost as if he was expecting us. After we identified ourselves and our purpose for being there, the man, Rick (who has owned the house since 1974 and been a denizen of Topanga Canyon for several years longer), gladly visited with us and told us stories of indeterminate veracity that he had heard of "the Family's" presence in the area. He was an interesting living link with the past!
Google Maps view of Summit Trail
A wider view shows the relationship of the end
of Summit Trail (arrow) to Gary Hinman's
residence at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road.
The end of Summit Trail
MF bloggers talk with Rick, the owner of the house
at the end of Summit Trail since 1974.
According to Rick, "the Family's" black bus was
parked on this slight rise adjacent to the house,
about where the orange car is.
The house at the end of Summit Trail
Tuesday, May 3, 2016
Nude Hippies And The Origin Of An Icon
Perhaps the earliest media report on Charles Manson and his "Family" was the article that appeared in the Los Angeles Herald Examiner on April 23, 1968. That article, headlined "Nine Nude Hippies Arrested; Found Huddled Around Campfire," described the arrest of Manson and eight of his associates in Ventura County, California after law enforcement officials encountered their disabled school bus in a remote canyon.
According to the article, police found the "bus stuck in a deep ditch along Deer Creek Mountain Road, just above Bass Rock, located about five miles south of Point Mugu.... The group was apparently driving back into the canyon when the bus became stuck in the deep ditch along the roadway about a quarter mile east of Highway 1."
Arrested along with Manson in the incident were Mary Brunner, Brenda McCann (Nancy Pittman), Ella Sinder (Ella Jo Bailey), and Mark Damon (Mark Arneson, who would later be involved in the transfer of Gary Hinman's VW bus to the Straight Satans motorcycle club). Other persons detained with driver's licenses reported as being forged were Sadie Mae Glutz (Susan Atikins), Diane Bluestein (Diane Lake), Susan Scott (Stephanie Rowe), and Bruce Van Hall (in fact his real name).
Manson was booked on suspicion of grand theft auto (the bus was supposedly reported stolen from San Francisco on April 12, 1968, but it wasn't) and possession of two driver's licenses.
This incident, however, is important beyond providing us with an early newspaper account of Charles Manson and his "Family," because the arrest was also the source of the most famous mug shot of all time, namely the "arched eyebrow" picture of Charles Manson that graced the cover of Life magazine on December 19, 1969 and went on to be featured in countless books, magazines, television programs, and all manner of other media presentations in the following decades.
In 1968 the antics of "hippies" made for good news copy.
Above and Below: Charles Manson's mug shot from the Ventura
County bust and the resulting Life magazine cover. It has become
the icon for the "Icon of Evil."
* * *
Many sites related to the Charles Manson saga have been obliterated with the passage of time, but the location of this important arrest is virtually unchanged from the way it was almost fifty years ago.
A few miles north of where California Highway 1 crosses the Ventura County line the Deer Creek Road intersects on the eastern side. About a quarter mile after turning onto the road there is an obvious turnoff on the right side. Shortly down this turnoff is a creek bed where it would have been possible for the bus to get stuck. Since this is the only location in the area where it would be likely for someone to attempt to pull over a large vehicle it is very probably the site of the April 22, 1968 arrest.
Deer Creek Road is as isolated and untamed
today as it was in April of 1968. The likely location
of the bus breakdown was in the canyon indicated
by the green trees in the lower right of the image.
The turnoff about a quarter mile up
Deer Creek Canyon Road
Down into the turnoff
Did the bus get mired in this creek bed?
The view west from the turnoff shows the location's
proximity to the Pacific Ocean.
Labels:
Charles Manson,
Life Magazine,
Manson Family Bus
Monday, May 2, 2016
Death Valley, The Racetrack Playa and The Michigan Loader Site
For the fifth year I asked the group if we could go to The Racetrack Playa in Death Valley to see the spot of the burning of the Michigan Loader. I have been consistently outvoted because the spot is very hard to get to. This year I got my wish!
The Racetrack Playa, or The Racetrack, is a scenic dry lake feature with "sailing stones" that inscribe linear "racetrack" imprints.
From Lone Pine where we bunked for the night after checking out Independence it is about a 60 mile trek from the turnoff on CA 198. All of those miles on dirt roads. Not just dirt roads but really windy, mountainous mining roads. None of these dirt mining roads are closer than 40 miles to anything that can be called a town.
Luckily George has lots of backcountry driving experience, topo maps and ice in his veins. The ride was very very bumpy, and we got temporarily lost at least twice. The views were spectacular. Death Valley is a breathtakingly beautiful place.
The view from Hunter Mountain overlooking Hidden Valley:
Tea Kettle Junction - about 6 miles from the Racetrack. Yes, we left a tea kettle:
Racetrack Playa from about 3 miles away:
Racetrack Playa:
The rock formation near the center is known as "The Grandstand".
Sailing Stones at The Racetrack:
As intense and unforgiving as Death Valley is, it is full of natural beauty.:
On the way back to LA we hit the Trona Pinnacles. Many of you will remember the backdrop from the YouTube video of Bill Nelson filming Cappy as she protested that he had promised not to film her:
The Racetrack Playa, or The Racetrack, is a scenic dry lake feature with "sailing stones" that inscribe linear "racetrack" imprints.
From Lone Pine where we bunked for the night after checking out Independence it is about a 60 mile trek from the turnoff on CA 198. All of those miles on dirt roads. Not just dirt roads but really windy, mountainous mining roads. None of these dirt mining roads are closer than 40 miles to anything that can be called a town.
Luckily George has lots of backcountry driving experience, topo maps and ice in his veins. The ride was very very bumpy, and we got temporarily lost at least twice. The views were spectacular. Death Valley is a breathtakingly beautiful place.
The view from Hunter Mountain overlooking Hidden Valley:
Tea Kettle Junction - about 6 miles from the Racetrack. Yes, we left a tea kettle:
Racetrack Playa from about 3 miles away:
Racetrack Playa:
The rock formation near the center is known as "The Grandstand".
Sailing Stones at The Racetrack:
Below is the set of the burning of the Michigan Loader, the incident that spurred the Inyo County Sheriff's Department to start the investigation that led to the Barker Ranch Raids and the final arrest of Charles Manson. The spot is the turnoff onto Lippincott Lead Mine Road.
Labels:
Death Valley,
Michigan Loader,
Racetrack Playa,
Trona CA
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