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I have heard there is an effort to rebuild what was ruined by the fire that totaled the place... does anyone know anything about this???The last update I saw regarding this was awhile back and I read it on Manson Family Today website- which has obviously been down for awhile- so maybe someone has heard something more recent????
Saint- next week i wil be addressing that topic.
Thanks Evil C- you always fill my needs :)
Coming soon : My book reportThe Mythology of Charles MansonA modern inside look at the most famous criminal in American History. Through the words of a determined internet blogger- the 40 year history of those involved in the most infamous crimes of the twentieth Century is examined. Rumors, and myths are dissected, and investigated through a series of conversations, and inquisitions. A vast little known world of everyday people is exposed where those who have intimate knowledge of the principals mingle and exchange correspondence with others who can offer only speculation and romanticized ideas of what really happened on those fateful nights in August of 1969...The books, and movies, as well as the vast network of websites dedicated to the minutia of the case are all examined here. sorting out the real from the imagined,and the valuable resources from the legends and implied assertions that have been passed down over the years.Finally, the author delivers an all encompassing collection of resources associated with the case, and man, that society just cannot let go of.join the Author as he delves into the world of Manson, and learns of the vast network of people who to this day are immersed in the decades old question, of what really happened on Cielo/Waverly drives on those hot summer nights in 1969. Read the interviews, and gain access to the debates that still rage on passionately- even after all these years. Through this comprehensive collection, of Manson related materials -you will have access to a wide variety of recorded, and written efforts to break down the case which will allow you to ultimately decide for yourself for once and all...Is Charles Manson the most evil, and dangerous man alive?Now one of you go write the book so I can review it... :)
I think I read on the Panamint Springs boards (DeathValley.com) that the decision to rebuild was nixed by the park service. There is a man though who is trying to get permission to go onto the Myers ranch to repair the water line that feeds the trees there which are dying. There is a huge eucalyptus and of course the pomegranate bush. He has not had any luck yet locating the owner who apparently does not wish to be found.
Ill take Lindsay and spot anyone Charlie that will take the bet of who winds up with the longest time behind bars when it is all said and done :Charlie Sheen's publicist says the actor has been hospitalized in Los Angeles with severe abdominal pains. Publicist Stan Rosenfield gave no other details of the 45-year-old's condition.Celebrity website TMZ.com was the first to report Sheen's hospitalization Thursday. TMZ says Sheen was taken by ambulance following an early morning 911 call.The Emmy-nominated star of CBS' "Two and a Half Men" has been dogged by personal problems and apparent health issues. This is his third hospitalization in as many months. And just last week, CBS entertainment president Nina Tassler said network executives are concerned about his off camera behavior..Concerned.... ya think??? lol Of all the ways a single famous decent looking guy could blow millions...Do you need to actually hurt yourself doing it????
St i was just telling my daughter about Sheen i said its pretty fucking sad when you have ALL that loot and still cant buy yourself some happiness.as for your book report- w00t w00tcant wait. thanks!
Patty & Saint- about Barkers i was gonna post this next week with the pics but since you two are asking and im sure others are wondering-Re- rebuilding Barker~Sandy, George and Elf (Cappy's son) were in the process of restoring Barkers right before the fire. i have a good pic for next week to post showing the brand new roof they had just put on the building. the pics of before and after the fire brought a tear to my evileye. posting the pic next week.
Awesome - I hope someone makes it visitable before I head out there in spring 2012!!!
Saint- i dont think it is but, Panamint Patty is a good one to ask, she knows quite a bit about Barkers and i think has visited recently. i know some of the pics from her i will be posting are from 2009. but yes, drop her a note somewhere here, or write up something and email me @ the aol address and i will foreward it to that Panamint Peppermint PattyCake.
Sounds like a plan :) I am hopeful to meet some poeple out that way lol when I make my trip I will be going down the entire coast from Oregon, and the Kesey farm where Furthur is parked out back- all the way down to San Diego... and lots of time in SF, and LA in between- Ill have a big bag of killer bud and the more people I get to meet- the better :)i'll have a smile and a Fat dube for everyone I meet ...Plus Mrs. Circumstance is very nice as well- can you imagine?? someone married me...
I was at Barker Ranch over Thanksgiving. I did not take any pictures. I found these pictures taken last March. It looked the same in Nov.http://ronslog.typepad.com/ronslog/2010/03/barker-ranch-after-the-fire.htmlBTW: George and Sandy put the windows in the house many years ago too.As far as Myers Ranch goes, it has been fixed up really nice since the fire there a few years ago. Get me Direct TV and I'll be a caretaker for the family.
Grump! I love you! Have you been on the Myers Ranch property too? Do tell.
The real cause of the Barker Ranch fire was noteriety. Rebuilding it may only attract more visitors like the ones who torched it and the ones who drove up there unprepared and had to be towed out. It doesn't take many arsonists and tenderfoots to ruin a wilderness area. It seems like these party crashers want to immulate Charlie's propensity for destruction.
Patty - Myers is right down the road from Barker. Easy walk. The main house burned about 5 years ago. The rebuilt structure looks like a miniature Ballarat General Store. Even though "Private Property" signs are all over, everyone goes in. They have a real good water flow there! I use their hose to wash my hair when I'm there.My wife died when our son was about 11. I started taking him up there at least three times a year camping and exploring. Now that he is off and married, I only go up there once a year. Usually Thanksgiving time, free dinner at Panamint Springs.I live in Pahrump, right down the road from Shoshone and the Devils Hole.If you or anyone ever wanted a tour, up there, just let me know. Fly into vegas and we can work something out. I have plenty of room here if a bunch of people are interested in coming. Just me and my crazy mini schnauzer in a 4 bedroom house.I have many pictures posted on CharlieManson.com. Besides Barker and Ballarat, I have pictures there of Shoshone caves and the Devil's Hole. I no longer have the originals though. I got threatened with a lawsuit over the picture I took of the W. Flora St house in Stockton! Steve "The GrumpfromPahrump"EMail me at Grumpfrompahrump@yahoo.comINFO: I have a window frame from the Manson bus hanging in my garage!! Most of the sheet metal is at the old Lotus Mine now.
All very good info, Grump. Thank you! I call myself Panamint Patty, but I am an absolute novice compared to you. I would love to meet you and pick your brain sometime - Mr. and Mrs. Patty will be in the area next March over spring break. We want to see the east side of the Panamints this time via Striped Butte. Also hoping that Ash Meadows is passable by then; we heard it got pretty wet out there last month.
I mentioned to Liz that an EviLiz.com 2012 Manson Tour should at least be discussed.If anyone wants to discuss it seriously enough send your email address to Liz & I'll start a private list serve discussion list to throw some ideas around.
Hey Matt - I'm in. I know Liz has my email - she uses it with some regularity. :)
Grump- send me some pics not Turner! lol Matt- St is supose to be getting something ready about the eviliz 2012 tour! so that post will be coming soon!
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