?

There's a couple of sites that have been around for years. One calls itself the "Official" and the other the "Truth". Both of these sites state they want to find the truth behind the Tate/Labianca murders. I'm sure they do. It seems both started out on the long road of reexamining what's available and filtering out the bullshit to find the truth. Both, as with most of the other sites, have thrown the Helter Skelter motive out the window. I can't say I'm in disagreement with this. I applaud them for their efforts, they have provided and contributed lots.

Now I know there's gonna be some fool that is going to accuse me of not being able to ask this question on my own, but... what about Saladin Nader? It seems that the Nader part of the second night of murders is completely over looked by both the "Official" and the "Truth" sites. I would think that in the search of the truth, all of the facts would need to be included. The "Official" site's archive goes back six years. If you type the word Nader in the search bar, Nader appears only once in six years of archived material. In fact, Nader is only mentioned while commenting on Mark Turner's interactive map. The "Truth" site does go a little more in depth on the Nader subject, but not much. In fact it starts out on topic, but Shitty Kitty quickly gets distracted because someone mentions "Donkey" Dan and it appears she starts typing with one hand while rubbing one out with the other as she discusses DeCarlos' anatomy. So much for Nader.

I'll be the first to say that I am not the most educated on all things Manson. Common sense says that the Saladin Nader part of the second night must be included in searching for the motive for the murders. Even though he didn't get killed, he was intended to. Just because there's not a lot of information on Nader other than Linda's testimony, doesn't mean that it's not important. Linda's description of the building and what they did was very accurate. I've been in the apartment building and have provided pictures according to her discription. The botched attempted murder of Saladin Nader did happen. It happened on the same night as the Labianca murders. Why has this been over looked?

Now we know who Charlie was texting

SEATTLE, WA- Amazon has come under fire once again for its decision to carry yet another controversial book. In recent news, the internet retail powerhouse was scrutinized for its decision to carry, The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child -Lover's Code of Conduct by Philip R. Greaves II. Now they are pushing the limits even farther with a new children's book that has been penned by non other than one of the 20th century's most notorious criminals, Charles Manson. Manson now 76, has been incarnated for the past 41 years for convincing his followers to commit murder in the famous Hinman,Tate, and LaBianca killings of the late 1960's.

The book titled, The Trials of Tommy Travis, is about a young 11 year old boy who is misunderstood by his peers and how how feels ostracized from the neighborhood kids. The story explores how Tommy copes with his loneliness and his many failed attempts to fit in. It chronicles Timmy's life as he becomes the guru of a renegade group that develops its own ranch style community on the outskirts of his home town. Ultimately, the community flourishes and prospers bringing new hope into a downtrodden world.
Sounds familiar.


Parent groups around the nation are outraged over the news and are calling for the immediate ban on the sale of the book, not only on Amazon but everywhere.
"How does a book like this even become published?" asked Susan Powell, founder of Stability, Togetherness and Family Unity (STFU), (<~~~ eviliz always thought that STFU-stood for shut the fuck up. who knew?) "who in their right mind could have thought that a book like this, by such an awful man, was a good idea?"
In December of last year, Manson was found to have been making phone calls and sending text messages from prison. It has now been revealed that the communications were with Charlie's Freedom Press (CFP), the British Columbia based independent publishing company that produced the controversial book. Evidentially, Manson wrote the entire book through thousands of text messages sent to the publisher. We feel that the story will help children throughout the world to better understand how to deal with feelings of ostracization and "outsiderness". We truly feel that the notoriety of the author will only aid in getting the message out faster." explained CFP in a statement to the press, "We're hoping that the book can help to create a dialogue between children and parents about the issues involving different, fitting in and the bad feelings that can result from being shunned from peers." By now I'm sure that this book has already been pulled from the retailer's website due to the controversy. But I cannot imagine that you won't find it on the days to come throughout the listings of eBay and other internet auction sites.
Have to put this on the kids x-mas list!

NO DOUBT A HOAX BUT STILL ENTERTAINING-

Check it out-

http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/28309/charles-manson-writes-a-children’s-book/

Manson Girls Movie~ Sandy or Sadie?

Taryn Manning (Getty)

Actress Taryn Manning is aiming for Oscar gold with her upcoming Charles Manson movie, insisting the lead role is worthy of an Academy Award.

The Crossroads star is preparing to star in Manson Girls, a film focusing on the lives of the convicted murderer’s female followers, and she has been given the unique opportunity of choosing between two key parts – serial killer Susan ‘Sadie’ Atkins and longtime cult member Sandra ‘Blue’ Good.

Manning admits she’s torn between the roles because they’re both challenging – but only one is truly Oscar worthy.

She tells WENN, “We haven’t filmed it but I’m signed on. I can choose between two roles right now. One of them is Sadie Atkins which is the obvious part because of typecasting. I’m much more sophisticated than I get credit for and I’m much more well read and educated.

“But I’ve also had the opportunity to play Sandra ‘Blue’ Good who is still alive and she still follows Manson and she’s crazy. She was the most educated of all the women that fell into this cult and she was never part of any of the murders and was pregnant during the early days of the family. She’s not a part I would normally get to play but if I want to win an Oscar, which is my intention, I want the part that will stand out and that’s Sadie Atkins.”

And Manning is determined to draw the attention of Academy voters, with whichever role she chooses, after being snubbed in 2005.

She says, “I feel like I should have been nominated for Hustle & Flow to be honest and a lot of people feel that way, but that’s fine and it wasn’t my time… I’m one part away from winning an Oscar, if it’s the right part, and that could be playing Sadie Atkins.”

But there’s one aspect of the Manson Girls project she’s a little apprehensive about: “There are people who don’t like her (Atkins) and what she really did in real life and I don’t know if I want to sign up for that potential abuse that could come my way from people that are horrified from the murders she committed of innocent people. So I’m torn between what part do I play. It’s a good problem to have!”

Manson is serving a life prison sentence after co-ordinating a killing spree in the late 1960s as the leader of the Manson Family.

 "Ansom 13"
Date Un-known 

In Search of TJ

T.J's Marine Photo

Patty likes to take note of places that are mentioned in the Manson mythology so that she can later go back and photograph them for posterity. One piece of information she found very interesting was an email supposedly written by TJ's sister in law "Cyn" to the administrator of a popular HTLBS site that you are all familiar with.
In the email Cyn wrote about TJ's funeral arrangements that half of his ashes were spread in the desert and "the other half of Tom's ashes were brought to Tom's family in Reno, NV where we had a second memorial ceremony for him. His ashes are interred in the Veteran's Memorial Cemetary in Fernley, NV. He is interred next to my husband John, his mother Marie and his father, John Sr." Patty was in Fernley recently and took the lead photo of the cemetery but could not find his headstone. Being the big chicken that she is, Patty got Liz to call the cemetery's administrator. We have TJ's date of birth, date of death, rank, active duty dates and serial number. They say he is not buried there. So either he is not buried there, or they do not release info about celebrities and/or supposed "FBI informants."

Cyn also wrote: "Tom and Lori did marry and had 3 children: Aslan, Light and Rivers...Tom has two other children by his first wife, Rainbow or Bo as we called her. They had two daughters: Yana Mani and Domani." Eviliz.com has confirmed that two of these names are spelled incorrectly and Cyn has left out mention of a sixth child alltogether. What's up with that?

You may also remember that some time ago, The Pattys spent the good part of an entire day and $100 in gas driving up and down the 395 looking for the crash site with a grainy photo from Bill Nelson's book in hand. There are some good landmarks in these photos: in one, a house with a fence and a telephone pole amidst a clump of trees on one side of the road. In the other, a distinctive, long, sloping butte in the distance on the other side. In Taming the Beast p. 142, it says that the fatal curve in the road was in Kern County. Never could find a spot that even remotely resembled the photos even though we doubled back to get both perspectives.
Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm."

Read Something: Christopher Jones

Patty streamed "Wild in the Streets" with Christopher Jones, Shelly Winters and Richard Pryor last night which got her to Googling. You may recall that Chris was a close friend of Sharon Tate's and is even rumored to have had an affair with her while she was pregnant. Devastated by her death, he dropped out of the limelight in the early 70's to become a painter. The biography available at http://www.cinetropic.com/jones/bio.html gives a lot more detail about the impact of the crimes on his life including the following statement:

"He'd moved into his manager's guest house on the property where the Tate killings had occurred in Benedict Canyon. Chris, still very upset over Sharon's death, watched unbelieving as the owner's guests were shown blood stained carpets and repeated grizzly stories over and over."

Now, that's messed up.

If you have never seen "Wild in the Streets," maybe you should. It's excellent background research for what the mood was in our country during the time The Family was active, when 52% of the US population was under age 25. There are some excellent shots of the Haight and the Strip if you watch closely. Be warned though, the lyrics to "14 or Fight" are bound to get stuck in your head for many days afterwards.

Helter Skelter

In the video below, Bono says, “This song Charles Manson stole from the Beatles. We’re stealing it back.”

Back Porch Tapes update

From BPT's Facebook


Backporch Tapes 

I got a notice from ebay telling me it was multiple offenses major of posting nude children, Which I DID NOT DO....I never posted anything of Hendrickson period, never and the TOBBIN INTERNATIONAL FILMS thing is bullshit. I don't think You Tube has the balls to come out and say they HAD AND ALLOWED NUDE KIDS ON THERE which I didnt have anyway. I think You Tube is using Tobban to cober it up to save thier ass if the child nudity thing true. I had one photo of the Manson women standing nude with some kids and the parts were cover with a banner...it was them being HIPPIES not them being CHILD MOLESTERS. I also was informed this was by the ATTORNEYS of You Tube...and it a Major offense ....Saying things like they are not responsible and if sued or arrested they not liable. The they throw that Tobban thing up to make it look like something else. You Tube is not being truthful with that. I believe it was the Jewish Jesus who turned me in with her band of idiots. She menetioned the Nudity and how she cant look at it as part of her religion on more than one occasion. The same time it was cancelled out she BLOCKED ME from here on facebook. Its a ATWAR with LIES. I am now ATWAR with LIES TOO and will start showing some lies.....

Poor Michael - Sorry Dude.

Read somethings-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/15/henry-rollins-charles-manson

Which links to-

http://www.magicbulletrecords.com/site/bands/active/charles-manson/

Or if you don't like to read here is the short version-

AIR, TREES, WATER, and ANIMALS is a 4-part, seasonal album series by CHARLES MANSON on Magic Bullet Records that brings together these two passions. Each individual album features previously-unheard, authorized, and exclusive songs with a sharp focus on the non-sustainable environmental conditions mankind has wrought for itself. The recordings span numerous sessions and are presented in their raw, natural, and unadulterated form. Each installment also features striking artwork and careful presentation centered around the tenets and philosophies of ATWA (including exclusive paintings rendered by MANSON himself).  When all of the sensationalism, fear, projection, and knee-jerk response is stripped away, all that remains is a man named Charlie, strumming and picking away on his guitar and sending his passions into the ether.

Schedule of release:

• AIR CD/LP/Cass/Digital : Summer 2010 (August 10, 2010)
• TREES CD/LP/Cass/Digital : TBA
• WATER CD/LP/Cass/Digital : TBA
• ANIMALS CD/LP/Cass/Digital: TBA

crappy copy i know

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