Thank you, Farflung
Thursday, March 22, 2012
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
This Day in Manson History - The Buntline is Stolen
Joseph Randall (Randy Starr), an employee at Spahn said he obtained the gun from Ron and later loaned it to Manson for target shooting.
Sunday, March 18, 2012
The Stockton Murders - timeline of what took place
Photo by Patty of the approximate location of James Willett's murder
30 Oct - William Goucher and Michael Monfort (posing as James Willett) are arrested for the armed robbery of Eden Square Liquors (929 N Eldorado St), less than 12 blocks from the W Flora Ave home.
31 Oct - Monfort (using James Willett’s ID) posts bail of $10,000. Goucher remains in jail.
(Warning: Pure guessing follows: A bail bond had been issued by a private company for an amount which would pay for half a house in 1972. They have a financial interest in securing this risk from presumably James T. Willett of Bardstown, KY who is a member of a family, which owns Kentucky Bourbon Distillers. They likely checked with the DMV for a vehicle to use as an asset and may have verified with James’ family his identity and past residences. They would be the most tuned to recapture ‘James’ should he jump bail as was to be the case. Using James Willett’s ID, Address: 704 ¼ Coronado St, Los Angeles, CA, may have been the first domino to fall in this case which led police to the car parked in front of 720 W Flora Ave.)
8 Nov - The body of James Willett is discovered near Guerneville CA. Willett’s body was initially reported as an unidentified man aged 20 to 40. Also discovered in the county were three bodies linked to Hell’s Angel member, George ‘Baby Huey’ Wethern (Although ultimately not associated with the Hell’s Angels case, Willett’s body appears to have been a point of confusion for more than a day or two).
8/9 Nov - Lauren Willett is shot and killed (How could the Flora Ave gang have learned about the discovery of James’ body?).
During this same time frame James Willett, aka Michael Monfort fails to appear in court triggering a skip trace for the return of $10,000, in 1972 value ($54,464.83 in 2012 Dollars).
10 Nov - According to Paul Fitzgerald (Krenwinkel defense attorney), Squeaky phoned him and said she had arrived in Stockton via bus, late Friday (10 Nov) then spent the night in the Flora Ave house before visiting Goucher in jail on Saturday (11 Nov). Somehow Squeaky managed to locate Pitman at the W Flora Ave home, in spite of the fact that Pitman had lived there less than two weeks.
11 Nov (8 PM) - Police respond to a report that Willett’s car was seen parked in front of 720 W Flora Ave. Entry is forced after a female occupant slams the door on a police officer.
(Is it mere coincidence that a co-defendant of Monfort (Goucher) is being visited in jail by Squeaky Fromme who had to sign into the jail, presumably with an address? Did she unwittingly write 720 Flora? Write a phone number which was searched in a reverse listing?)
Inside the Flora Ave house is an infant (7-8 months old) identified by Nancy Pitman (using alias of Lauren Olmstead) to be Heidi Willett, adding the mother having just left for Kentucky to be with the father, Jim Willett (Would Pitman admit this association knowing that James Willett’s body was discovered?).
Pitman (using second alias Karen McCartney), Cooper, Craig and Monfort (using second alias Gordon Foote) are arrested.
Fromme calls the Flora Ave house after visiting with Goucher in jail looking for a ride. Police oblige and return Fromme to the same facility she was visiting.
Heidi Willett is placed in Mary Graham Hall.
12 Nov (5 AM) - Stockton police obtain search warrant then discover Lauren Willett’s body buried under the Flora Ave home.
13 Nov - Sonoma County District Attorney files charges against Craig, Monfort and Goucher for the murder of James Willett.
(Monfort and Craig were escapees/parole violators from prison as well, making the testimony of James Willett about various robberies appear superfluous compared to simply being turned into police with an anonymous call. Would James have been murdered to keep him from talking about other robberies?)
14 Nov - Priscilla Cooper states Michael Monfort accidentally shot Lauren Willett in the forehead while demonstrating the dangers of Russian roulette.
Research provided by Farf
Saturday, March 17, 2012
NOT Pic Dawson
People have been asking about the photos that The Colonel has seen of Debra Tate with Pic Dawson. Though Patty has never seen those either, here's something interesting to ponder in the meantime. Deb is on the right, on the left is Nastassja Kinski. Bent over is Johnny Crawford who as a boy played Mark McCain on "The Rifleman". In the pool tickling Deb's foot is someone who may have had more tail than Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain, and that's a lot!
Nah. Actually, Patty has read that Nastassja and her father were never close. Neither apparently were Deb and PJ. Were escapades like this the reason for that, or a symptom of it? Certainly nothing was ever the same for the Tate family after August 8, 1969. The more we learn, the more the questions come to mind...Mind if Patty keeps asking them?
Klaus is NOT amused, Ahnold.
Nah. Actually, Patty has read that Nastassja and her father were never close. Neither apparently were Deb and PJ. Were escapades like this the reason for that, or a symptom of it? Certainly nothing was ever the same for the Tate family after August 8, 1969. The more we learn, the more the questions come to mind...Mind if Patty keeps asking them?
Friday, March 16, 2012
Q&A
Orwhut asked-
"I've read that a least one of Dennis Rice's kids is active in his ministry but can't find any contemporary photos of them."
Joseph and Heather Rice
Biography-Pastor Joe Rice was saved in 1985 at The Door Christian Fellowship Church in Tempe, AZ. His decision was influenced by his father's conversion while serving a sentence in San Quentin State Prison. In 1991, he pastored his first church in Phoenix, AZ. In 1994, after establishing a church in Phoenix, he was sent to Auburn, WA to pioneer a new work. In 1996, he felt a calling to enter into missionary work and was given the opportunity to pioneer a church in George, South Africa. After 5 years of laboring in George, he handed over the church to a solid native disciple, Randal Van Staden. After serving in George, he pioneered again in Cape Town, South Africa for another 4 years and left a solid work that is today pastored by Alec McCann (No relation to Brenda McCann). In 2005, he along with his wife Heather and his four children moved to San Diego, CA where he assumed the pastorate of The Potter's House San Diego.
Samuel Rice-website not active yet.
Nicholas Rice-video left hand corner. I am not 100% sure this is the right Nicholas Rice.
http://www.ourlourdes.org/parish/parish-life.aspx
http://www.ourlourdes.org/parish/parish-life.aspx
Nothing on Kathryn Rice. I am assuming she has married and uses that last name.
Q&A
2009
Dennis and his wife 2011
Another question from the Feb 24th "Babies" post.
Orwhut asked-
Has anyone heard how Dennis is doing in his battle with Cancer?
Dennis Rice's inactive site "Free Indeed Ministries" focused on Dennis' travels over the world preaching his Manson 2 Jesus teachings to convert prisoners to the straight and narrow through Christianity.
Eviliz was contacted last year from one of Dennis' flock who provided me this link.
The link is to a church in Arizona where Dennis is active now. His "Free Indeed Ministry" was also out of AZ. Maybe his health is deteriorating since he gave up his traveling. The two photos above show his age progression over two years. According to his quote below he should of passed by now. Looks pretty good for liver cancer. There is a woman named Kathy at the church who might be his daughter.
"Rice asked if anyone had a parole date or knew they had only a short time left. He told them he was on his way out too, if his doctors were right. In May,(2010) Rice said he was diagnosed with liver cancer and his doctor gave him six to nine months, at most, a year to live."
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