Debra Tate says she heard attorney Boyd say that Tex confessed to many other murders!

Sharon Tate’s sister, Debra, is joining the Los Angeles Police Department in urging a Texas judge to release hours of unheard audio tape recordings between Manson follower and convicted murderer Charles "Tex" Watson. The LAPD announced on Thursday it has a dozen open investigations into unsolved murders that occurred near known Manson Family hangouts, and believe the tapes may help them solve the cases.

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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE - LAPD: Manson tapes needed for unsolved cases

DALLAS (AP) - A Los Angeles Police Department spokesman says investigators believe that decades-old taped conversations between a Manson family disciple and his attorney could help clear up more than a dozen unsolved homicides.

Andrew Smith told The Associated Press on Thursday that the LAPD sought to use a search warrant to obtain the tapes of conversations between Charles “Tex” Watson and his late attorney, Bill Boyd, because it urgently wants to solve any unsolved cases.

U.S. District Judge Richard A. Schell in Texas this month blocked the LAPD from executing the search warrant for the office of a bankruptcy trustee who currently has the tapes.

He criticized the LAPD for trying to circumvent an order he issued keeping the tapes off limits while he considers Watson’s appeal of a bankruptcy court case.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

A federal judge in Texas has blocked an attempt by the Los Angeles Police Department to use a search warrant to obtain decades-old tapes of conversations between a Manson family disciple and his now-deceased trial attorney.

U.S. District Judge Richard A. Schell’s ruling stopped authorities from executing a search warrant earlier this month for the office of the bankruptcy trustee who has eight cassette tapes containing hours of conversations between Charles “Tex” Watson and attorney Bill Boyd.

Schell took the LAPD to task for what the judge called an apparent attempt to circumvent a court order making the tapes off limits until Watson’s appeal of a previous ruling in bankruptcy court can be heard.

“This court understands and respects the desire of the LAPD to seek access to the 42-year-old tapes,” Schell wrote in an Oct. 5 ruling. “However, the LAPD has provided no explanation as to why this court should shortcut the usual procedure for determining a bankruptcy appeal given that the investigation the LAPD wishes to reopen involves murders that occurred 42 years ago.”

The LAPD is seeking the tapes on the belief that Watson, serving a life sentence in California for his role in the 1969 murders of actress Sharon Tate and six others, may have discussed other unsolved murders with Boyd.

Boyd, who died in 2009, represented Watson when the Manson follower fled to his home state after the murders. The tapes are now in the possession of Linda Payne, the trustee in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy proceeding involving the law firm where Boyd worked.

In May, the bankruptcy court judge ruled that the LAPD should get the tapes because Watson waived his right to attorney-client privilege when he made them available to the co-author of his 1978 book “Will You Die for Me? The Man Who Killed for Charles Manson Tells His Own Story.” The ruling by Judge Brenda Rhoades in effect supported Payne, who testified that she believed there was no reason not to give police the tapes.

Watson is appealing the decision, and Schell granted a stay until he can hear arguments from both sides. Attorneys for Watson and Payne are still preparing their briefs.

Andrew Smith, an LAPD spokesman, said Thursday he couldn’t immediately comment on the matter.

Payne sought an emergency ruling from Schell on the search warrant after law enforcement officials from Los Angeles and Fort Worth showed up at her Dallas office on Oct. 3 seeking to search the premises, court records show.

Read more: LAPD: Manson tapes needed for unsolved cases - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/lapd-manson-tapes-needed-for-unsolved-cases/#ixzz29ibagq9L

Story taken from the Washington Times

Odd picture revisited

Is the girl depicted in the top image the same one
captured in the picture below? (left in both pics)

Thanks orwhut for the tip

Top Ten Strangest Charles Manson Quotes

Top Ten Strangest Charles Manson Quotes

Charles Manson has been called many things, a cult leader, a serial killer, a sociopath, a psychopath, but he's never been called "quotable". In many interviews Manson speaks gibberish and tries to appear crazy, he usually succeeds. He runs interviews like a circus with himself as the star attraction. This is a small sample of some of his craziest quotes during his jail house interviews. Many psychologist believe that Manson is a man who has lost touch with reality. But in a 1980 interview with Tom Snyder this was proved somewhat inaccurate, honorable mention goes to the Synder interview for the simple fact that Synder was able to control Manson by telling him to "come down off the spaceship." Luckily for us, not many reporters are as poised as Tom Synder, so here are some of the strangest things Manson uttered on camera.

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WATCH: The Legends Of Laurel Canyon, The Complete Documentary

"The Legends of Laurel Canyon", Tina Malave’s fascinating documentary of the music and residents of Laurel Canyon, is now streaming online.

The documentary focuses on the L.A. music community of the late 60s and early 70s where Jim Morrison, Frank Zappa, Crosby Still & Nash, Linda Ronstadt, Mama Cass and The Monkees were all neighbors.

Tina’s documentary is exceptionally made, giving detail of the people and the lifestyle and the birth of an endless era of music.

Warning: If you start watching you won't be able to stop!

Watch the complete "Legends of Laurel Canyon" here

Mary, Gypsy & Como

I had these once without the blur-outs. Sorry I can't find them. Does anybody have those??? 

Mwah!

Looks like Gypsy's packin' more than automatic fire.

I wuv you...

Now I know I was right!


Thanks, candy and nuts

Sway: A Novel

Three dramatic and emblematic stories intertwine in Zachary Lazar's extraordinary new novel, SWAY--the early days of the Rolling Stones, including the romantic triangle of Brian Jones, Anita Pallenberg, and Keith Richards; the life of avant-garde filmmaker Kenneth Anger; and the community of Charles Manson and his followers. Lazar illuminates an hour in American history when rapture found its roots in idolatrous figures and led to unprovoked and inexplicable violence. Connecting all the stories in this novel is Bobby Beausoleil, a beautiful California boy who appeared in an Anger film and eventually joined the Manson "family." With great artistry, Lazar weaves scenes from these real lives together into a true but heightened reality, making superstars human, giving demons reality, and restoring mythic events to the scale of daily life.

"One hypnotic tone poem.... It is not the now-historic acts of violence that make Sway so riveting, but its vivid character portraits and decadent, muzzy atmosphere, all rendered with the heightened sensory awareness associated with drugs and paranoia. The near miniaturist precision with which he describes Keith Richards's attempts to master his guitar, Brian Jones's acid trips and Anger's obsessive desire for Beausoleil bring this large-scale tableau into stunning relief." --Liz Brown, Time Out New York

The Ghost of Cielo Drive, Collection by George E. Smith

These photos are from my collection of 40 years on Sharon Tate and 10050 Cielo Drive. Look for the Ghost at the end of this video. Many of the photos in this video can be found in my book on Sharon Tate. " The House of Sharon Tate "

The rest of George E. Smith's collection on YouTube can be seen HERE.

George has been a collector on Sharon Tate and Cielo Drive since 1972.He has  also taken many photos of the Cielo Drive property since 1975 and is still taking photos of the new house. More to come from George...

A Conversation with Johnny Ussery- The Then 7 year old son of Clyda Dulaney!

MansonBlog catches up with Johnny Ussery... (Picture and interview posted with his permission). Johnny is alive and well in the Southeastern United States.

In the early morning on October 13, 1968 just south of Ukiah, California, Johnny, the not quite 8 year old son of Clyda Dulaney, woke up and started what was to be the most shocking and frightening day of his young life. Indeed, the experience he would have in the next couple of hours would change the course of his future, and alter his memory and emotional capacity forever. For this little boy was about to find both his 24 year old mother, and his 64 year old grandmother, lying within a short proximity of each other lifeless as a result of a horrific attack. Both victims had been beaten and stabbed multiple times. The victims, both fully clothed, were slain in identical fashion, garroted with new leather boot laces. Two turns had been taken around the neck and the laces were knotted in back. His mother was very pregnant at the time - carrying the child of a law enforcement officer who was out of town in Sacramento doing a special training course. Several members of the Charles Manson Family had been in the area around the time of the attacks. In fact, a few had been previously arrested nearby in the infamous "Witches of Mendocino" bust. The similarities between the savagery in the Ukiah case and that of  Cielo/Waverly made some wonder if the fact that family members were so close to the Ukiah tragedy timing/geographically-wise, in combination with the eerily similar traits of the brutal slayings, was more than just coincidence.

Today, for the first time, we will hear the words of an adult Johnny Ussery. He is happy and self employed living in southeastern U.S. He was good enough to give me a few minutes to share his thoughts, both then and now, regarding his family tragedy and any connections to the Manson Family he feels may have existed. Of course, our conversation started with an expression of great sorrow and compassion for his experience and loss. We then talked a bit about the general questions surrounding the tragedy. It all started, of course, on that tragic morning. Naturally,  at the time, a young Johnny Ussery had not heard the name Charlie Manson yet. He was just a child about to start another day. He didn’t wake up thinking about Devils, or Witches, or the darker side of life. What he woke up thinking that fateful morning was a thought many children his age wake up with every day. Such a simple and basic thought: he was going to be late....

"I knew I was late because I could see the sun shining through my window, and that normally hasn't happened yet when I wake up.  I went out to my mother's bedroom and I immediately noticed the bed was still made, which I thought was weird. Her purse was open and dumped out all over the bed, which nobody had slept in. None of it made any sense. I went outside. There was a gravel walkway between our trailer and my grandmother's trailer. My grandmother lived in one trailer by herself, and mom, me and my brothers lived in another trailer right next door. We always went over there for meals and stuff. I went outside and right away I saw mom lying on the gravel between the trailers. The thing I'll never forget is that she was blonde, and her face looked the same color as her hair. She was all white. I can remember it like it was yesterday. I screamed like crazy and ran into my grandmothers trailer. The first thing I noticed was that the television was still on, but the screen was fuzzy. Then I saw her lying there the same way as mom. I ran out of there.  I didn’t want to pass back by my mother, so I went out of the back of my grandmother's trailer and went around the back to ours. I got up my brothers and dressed them and started to get them out of there. I will never understand why, but something made me stop and grab the three piggy banks we kept on top of the refrigerator. With one each in our arms, we ran to a neighbor’s house where I told them mommy and grandma are dead. I remember after a little while looking across the field at the trailer and seeing all the cop cars. I remember everything up to that point crystal clear."

For the better part of the next 5 years that is the last thing Johnny Ussery remembered or can remember. He told me he recalls every detail of that tragic day from the moment he woke up until he uttered those words to the neighbors, but cannot remember even the most rudimentary details of his life after those words left his lips for at least the next several years. He asked me if I thought that is weird. I did not know how to answer him. I am not sure it is. I was not planning on asking Johnny to go into the details of the worst moments of his life, but he was open, and even seemed eager at times to share. He took me back with him to a place I am not sure I was really ready to go. It is hard to ask someone who was so young at the time to make sense of something that happened so long ago, and made such little sense. I do not know if he has made any sense of it, but he seemed to be at ease discussing it. When he finished his recollection of that morning, he took a few seconds to point out all of the even most trivial things in the immediate years after the crime he has lost memory of.  I asked him what his thoughts were regarding the possible motive of the crimes, and if he thought there were any possible connections to Manson or his people.

" I actually really don't believe Manson had anything to do with it."

Johnny then explained to me he that feels that Clyda’s husband at the time - the cop who was away in Sacramento was responsible. (A wink out to Panamint Patty who voiced this opinion in the past).

"That cop mom was with (Don Dulaney) did it. I am sure it was him."

He told me that his family hired a private investigator who determined that although Don Dulaney was accounted for in Sacramento - he showed up late, and used the excuse of forgetting his uniform and having to return home to retrieve it. Johnny is convinced that there is some time (30 minutes or so) unaccounted for in his alibi. He went on to say more about the character of the man he referred to throughout only as "That cop"...

"That cop had a daughter who at the time was about 8 years older than I was, I think. She was a straight A student and had no history of any type of trouble or problems, until the day she shot herself with her father's service revolver. No good reason. Nobody could figure out why. Incidents like this led to a lot of pressure until eventually this officer was forced to resign his position. He was up to something, but this man is dead today, so there is no way anyone will ever really know for sure."

I agreed. Highly probable we never will know for sure. In fact, Johnny told me a few times during the conversation that he honestly doesn’t know for sure if it was "that cop",  Manson, or anyone else. Nor did any motive come up for anyone discussed. But he thinks he knows for sure who might know the answer to both...

"There is an Aunt, who to this day still lives up in Santa Rosa, who I think knows exactly who killed mom. She is a very strange bird. I don’t know why she won’t tell anyone. She is hard to describe, but I am sure she knows everything."

Well, I didn't want to push too hard, and he seemed content himself that there were issues with this woman, and that was pretty much going to have to be that. Not being able to go any further down that road, I asked about a couple of rumors I wanted to straighten out. I read that the cops never questioned him after the crimes, and that his family had started a lawsuit against two men and one woman referred to as John/Jane Doe. The implication was his family must have had some inkling as to how many were involved (and of what sex) to bring a case so specific as to number and gender...

"To my knowledge, nobody ever asked me a single time about the crimes. not one police officer ever. But remember what I told you earlier, after I got to the neighbors and told them what I had found, the next few years are mostly a blur. I don't remember almost anything. That lawsuit was really instigated by one person and any details of number, or sex, didn’t come from me. This person is the one who always pushed that stuff."

I mentioned the names listed on the lawsuit, and he told me which one was the instigator. I am not personally going to drop anyone's name on the Internet without their permission. Two things worth pointing out: first, at a couple of different times during our conversation, Johnny reiterated to me that he has trouble remembering much of what happened in the years immediately following the crimes. 

 "You gotta understand at one point they brought me back to the area and tried hypnosis to help me get past and remember what happened." 

Obviously it was a very painful time. I can understand why he might have some trouble revisiting a memory that caused him so much stress and grief. Second, Johnny is not Internet savvy at all. He is not informed of the many websites out there or the volume of people who are aware of his family history. As a result, he doesn't seem to have studied the various theories regarding his family as thoroughly as some of us have. He seemed sort of surprised there was interest. He was very friendly and open, and I couldn’t have asked for more as far as candor and straightforward answers right down to mentioning specific names and confirming others. This is a very nice guy. He has his own theory about the identity of his mother and grandmother's killer, and it doesn't involve the Manson Family. However, he did have one more thing he wanted to tell me about regarding Manson before we hung up the phone. It was unsolicited and this is his story as told to me as close to exact as possible...

"You know what, you might think this is interesting too. My father did an unusual amount  of time in prison back in the day. You know how Charlie Manson is in Corcoran Prison now? Well, he used to be in this prison called Vacaville. Well, dad was at Vacaville for a while, and he told me he was walking down the halls one day with a bunch of guys, and they see Charlie Manson sweeping one of the floors. That was his job at the time - sweeping floors. Anyway, my dad sees he is not looking at them and shouts over to Charlie, 'Hey, who did that thing up in Ukiah?' Now dad told me there was no way Charlie could have known exactly which guy yelled it at him, but he looked up and looked dad right in the eye. He said back directly to dad, 'You'll never know will ya?' Then he looked back down and went back to sweeping without another word. Dad said it was eerie having him stare right into his eyes like that..."

(This interview is the result of my conversation with Johnny Ussery. I am quoting him from my notes, and not every word may be 100% verbatim. This is as close to his exact verbiage as I could write while he spoke. As much as I  possibly could, I have repeated his word for word responses. There are some instances where I am putting together (in no specific order) several quotes he made about the same subject.)

Touching Kodak Moments

 

A tender image of Billy Goucher & Maria Alonzo under their Nazi flag.

Awwwwe...

A tender image of Michael Monfort & James Craig.
Reminds me a little bit of Midnight Cowboy...

Thanks to Ole JC for the pics!