Manson Tour 2015: A Discussion With George Stimson: Part II

Filming by Stoner Van Houten

Manson Tour 2015: A Discussion With George Stimson: Part I

Filming by Stoner Van Houten

Manson Tour 2015: Earth Day at Spahn Ranch

So, what if I told you that in one day I would fly cross country from Florida, get high at Spahn Ranch with a guy named Stoner Van Houten,  go out to dinner with The Col, and then bunk for the night with George Stimson?

Would you say that was a hell of a day? Welcome to Manson Tour 2015!

Yeah, thats right- a few extras tagged along this year. I guess it is not hard to imagine the emotions, and feelings I experienced yesterday. Safe to say I went through some changes of my own for sure. Day one of the Tour was on, and with special help from the legendary Michael Channels, Pete Porteous, and the aforementioned Stoner Van Houten, We got a first class look- and first hand account- of the history of Spahn Ranch and the surrounding area.

Personally, just pulling around the final corner and seeing the sign for Santa Susana Pass road, was about when I first started worrying if anyone else could notice I was scared shitless? But Patty, Julie, and Deb were along, so I sorta had to go through with it. I was glad I did. The rattlesnakes left us alone, and we left the poison oak alone, and we all ended up friends.

Dinner with Max Frost and the Col was an amazing experience. Along with George being there, I found myself sitting between the most informed and intelligent people who are intimately involved with the case. It was - even a time for a guy like me- to just sit back with a beer and listen. Some nights should never have to end.

But it did. So we went back to the place we are sharing and I finally passed out in a loft in the room above where my new friend George was sleeping. We have different views, but we shared a great day. I know in the coming days we will talk about some of these differences. I get a rare chance to learn, and hear the thoughts from both sides in a very intimate way. Wow what a concept- People on both sides, and with different views all coming together for a single purpose. For the next week. This is my family lol

All the Very Best-

You're Favorite Saint

MARY TYLER MOORE DUPED BY SATANIC CULT (LOL)

Published on: April 8, 2015
by BOB HARTLEIN, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Photography by: TNE

Here's a side of Mary Tyler Moore fans likely have never seen before: holding up the radical newsletter of a notorious satanic cult!

The National ENQUIRER obtained this shocking 1967 photo of the beloved star in London; Mary smiles next to a man and displays "Process Magazine," the in-house publication of The Process Church of the Final Judgment, with its swastika-styled logo on the cover.

Mary clearly doesn't know she's holding "The Sex Issue," featuring articles on "sex magick" honoring the cult's Three Great Gods: Jehovah, Satan and Lucifer!

"It's absolutely clear that poor Mary was duped into endorsing the Process Church – having no idea it was an evil cult!" a source told The ENQUIRER . "Certainly it was a coup for the church to get Mary to pose for this photo – possibly for their own recruiting purposes – because she personified the sweet girl next door in America, and the type of individual the evil cult would like to brainwash!"

As The ENQUIRER previously reported, the 78-year-old TV legend is losing her long struggle with numerous health woes and appears to be "at death's door," as one eyewitness recently suggested.

But at the time of this trip, Mary was only 31, and the Process Church was just beginning to infiltrate the U .S. with its message that Christ and Satan will reconcile at the end of the world and pass judgment on humanity.

Vincent Bugliosi – the prosecutor in the Manson Family murder trial – believes the members were a strong influence on Charles Manson. The church also attracted Hollywood stars flirting with satanism – including Sammy Davis, Jr. and sex symbol Jayne Mansfield.

Thank you, Candy and Nuts

Al Wiman Speaks

Reporter Al Wiman who found the Tate murder clothes speaks to a classroom at length about how he and his crew found the clothing and what they did when they realized what they found.  Interesting stuff!  The sound quality is very poor but listenable.  Thanks Chats.

Reporter Finds Clothing

We have always been told in newspapers, books, TV programs, movies etc. that the creepy crawlers donned all black clothing to do their deeds.  Fact is, black jeans were not all that prevalent back in those days.  This clip clearly shows that the killers were wearing blue jeans and not new dark blue ones either.  The jeans in this are faded and well worn.

Thanks again to Chatsworth Charlie!

One of Charlie's Escapades.... er Escapes!

A little trip down memory lane with Charlie!

The Kokomo Tribune October 20, 1949

 

 

I thought I was done with this post and then I found another escape, this time the escape included stealing a car, maybe two.

 

From the Terre Haute Star February 15, 1951

 

Reader Ouija Broad's review of "No Journey's End: My Tragic Romance with ex-Manson girl, Leslie Van Houten" by Peter Chiaramonte

Thanks to loyal reader Ouija Broad for offering up this review for your reading enjoyment!

This book is like rummaging around in the $1.00 bin. There's a lot of junk, but keep looking and you will find some valuables.

The good points:

* This is the most complete portrait of LVH that I have read, at least a well-rounded portrait of who she was at the time her involvement with Mr. Chiaramonte. Through her correspondence, a picture emerges of a woman who is warm, earthy, kind, and devoted to her friends and family.

* Mr. Chiaramonte makes some astute points about the how and why LVH is still incarcerated, specifically citing the politics and fiscal concerns that may keep her in jail for life.

* In “Restless Souls”, Stephen Kay is a tireless fighter of justice. In this book, he is a wormy, often confused opponent who fights dirty.

* Two letters from Charlie Manson to LVH are clear insights into the manipulative mind of CM. His letters reflect a barely literate man who is a master of manipulation and mental mind games. The most interesting part of the letters is the lack of goofy ramblings associated with “Crazy Charlie.” Here, he means business and gets right down to it.

The other side:

* This book tells us more than we ever wanted to know about Peter Chiaramonte. It should have been titled, "The Autobiography Of A Man You Have Never Heard Of, plus some stuff about Leslie Van Houten." I admit I skipped whole pages of details about Mr. Chiaramonte's life and friends.

* Mr. Chiaramonte meets LVH's family - mother Jane, father Paul, siblings Paul, Jr., David and Betsy. I wanted to hear more about them and how they feel, but Mr. Chiaramonte's speaks of them only as props to his own story.

* There is some incorrect information in the book. For example, Mr. Chiaramonte cites that he "read somewhere" that Tex Watson dropped out of high school. Not true. There is also unsubstantiated claims that he just throws out with no reference, such as citing LVH as being so smart that she is considered to be in the top 5 percent of Americans. Really? How did he come up with that?

* The writing: Mr. Chiaramonte melodramatic prose can be cloying. At best, it sounds like a school boy in love. At worst, it sounds like a Taylor Swift song.

Was the book worth the money? I think so, for the gems it does reveal about LVH. Again, though, you will have to wade through a lot of junk to get to the gems in the book.

Recent Beausoleil Interview

Adam Kovac with the website Vice has conducted a recent interview with Bobby.  This interview does not address the murder that he is in prison for but is a discussion of his music and the different things he has been learning and doing while there. 

It's amazing to me the amount of freedom Bobby was given to devote himself to his music.

We Spoke to Charles Manson’s Guitarist About His Life Making Art and Music While Serving Time for Murder
        

April 6, 2015

By Adam Kovac

We need to get this out of the way right off the bat: Bobby Beausoleil was an associate of Charles Manson and he murdered Gary Hinman, a crime for which he was sentenced to death.

He's still alive and well, serving his commuted sentence in Oregon State Penitentiary.

I spoke with Bobby twice by phone recently, and this interview is not about Manson or the murder. It's about his life before and after. Because if you put all judgment about what he did aside, Bobby Beausoleil has led a fascinating, creative life.


Read the rest of the interview

Thanks to Chatsworth Charlie for the heads up!

Kathleen

Here's a little ditty sent in by "Pedro" by a band named Groanbox:

I was born without a name, No daddy took the blame, My mama was just sixteen
For a pitcher of beer
She sold me to a waitress working
Down on East McMillan Street
Well a few days later
My uncle came and saved me
But by then mom was up the river
So grandma  took me to church

Kathleen, what did you do to me
Kathleen
Why'd you have to be so
Why'd you have to be so
Mean? Kathleen!

I went to juvenile hall in 1944, Ten years later, I walked out the door
Got a girl named Rose
Stole some guns
Drove down to the sunshine state
Broke into a store
Put the dimes in a straw
Hat that my uncle gave me
And I rolled out to Cali-forni-aye

Kathleen, what did you do to me
Kathleen
Why'd you have to be so
Why'd you have to be so
Mean? Kathleen!

The only thing she taught me was that
everything she said was a lie
I guess I learned never to believe anyone about anything

I turned 21 in L.A. county jail I wasn't out but a hot second
I learned some guitar
I was gonna be a star
got some help from alvin creepy karpis
but I was inside for so long
going outside would be wrong
I asked them not to let me out
mama don't let me out!

Kathleen, what did you do to me
Kathleen
Why'd you have to be so
Why'd you have to be so
Mean? Kathleen!