Parking area of the house
It appears that a lot of money, time and renovations have been put into the house. It looks much better.Sunday, January 23, 2011
Hinman House 2011
Gary Hinman's old residence 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road in Topanga CA, January 2011. Thank you very much to fellow blog member/friend Ken for these pictures.
Parking area of the house
It appears that a lot of money, time and renovations have been put into the house. It looks much better.
Parking area of the house
It appears that a lot of money, time and renovations have been put into the house. It looks much better.
Gary's house in 1969
Home to Gary Hinman as it looked in 1969.
The writing Bobby left inside on the wall. It appears to be written low to the floor, right above the baseboard. Was Bobby lying down when he wrote it?
The plan for this week-
Remember when I posted that someone was going on a small excursion in Cali and asked for some suggestions on what to see and visit?
My friend Ken is back from that trip with some good pictures for us. This week Matt (even though this is the first he is hearing about it) will be posting some of the pictures from Ken's trip.
Panamint Patty also has some great pics from Barker Ranch.
She is getting her pictures in order to send for us as well.
Dianne from the blog has also sent me pictures of Barker to post. So that will be the "theme" for this up-coming week.
If anyone else has any pictures to share, not just Barker's but anything- please e-mail them to me. Don't forget to let
me know if you want to be credited or remain anonymous.
MansonFamily1967@gmail.com
My friend Ken is back from that trip with some good pictures for us. This week Matt (even though this is the first he is hearing about it) will be posting some of the pictures from Ken's trip.
Panamint Patty also has some great pics from Barker Ranch.
She is getting her pictures in order to send for us as well.
Dianne from the blog has also sent me pictures of Barker to post. So that will be the "theme" for this up-coming week.
If anyone else has any pictures to share, not just Barker's but anything- please e-mail them to me. Don't forget to let
me know if you want to be credited or remain anonymous.
MansonFamily1967@gmail.com
Friday, January 21, 2011
Pat's newest pic
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_17152489?nclick_check=1
Click on the link for a picture of Pat at yesterdays hearing.
The site won't let me copy and paste it otherwise,
I would have.
Thanks to Lynyrd Skynyrd Band for the heads up.
Glad to see you finally made it over Skynyrd.
Welcome aboard.
Click on the link for a picture of Pat at yesterdays hearing.
The site won't let me copy and paste it otherwise,
I would have.
Thanks to Lynyrd Skynyrd Band for the heads up.
Glad to see you finally made it over Skynyrd.
Welcome aboard.
Big Patty
Let us reflect on Pat's life and her accomplishments shall we?
Patricia Dianne Krenwinkel was born in CA on December 3, 1947.
She was over weight as a child and introduced herself to amphetamines for weight loss, beginning her drug habits. Her parents divorced when she was a teen. Her father stayed in CA while her mother went to live in Alabama. Pat bounced back and forth from her mother's home to her father's home and eventually took off to roam around CA when she was 15 years old. At age 20 she met Charlie and the girls. She grooved quickly in with the Family and her job with them was Nanny. But she quickly moved on to murderer. After the Spahn Ranch raid in October of 1969, her father bailed her out and she returned to Alabama to live with her mother and aunt Garnet Reeves. Interestingly enough Katie used as one of her aliases the last name Reeves. Why did all the Family members do that? Use their mother's maiden names and or some type of family related name for their aliases? She is currently incaarcerated at the California Institute for Women.
Patricia Krenwinkel's Accomplishments:
Artist
Free Hand Painter
Carver
Service Dog Trainer
She also holds a B.A. in Human Services . This is a picture of one of the "dorm rooms" where she currently resides with the general population.
Patricia Dianne Krenwinkel was born in CA on December 3, 1947.
She was over weight as a child and introduced herself to amphetamines for weight loss, beginning her drug habits. Her parents divorced when she was a teen. Her father stayed in CA while her mother went to live in Alabama. Pat bounced back and forth from her mother's home to her father's home and eventually took off to roam around CA when she was 15 years old. At age 20 she met Charlie and the girls. She grooved quickly in with the Family and her job with them was Nanny. But she quickly moved on to murderer. After the Spahn Ranch raid in October of 1969, her father bailed her out and she returned to Alabama to live with her mother and aunt Garnet Reeves. Interestingly enough Katie used as one of her aliases the last name Reeves. Why did all the Family members do that? Use their mother's maiden names and or some type of family related name for their aliases? She is currently incaarcerated at the California Institute for Women.
Patricia Krenwinkel's Accomplishments:
Artist
Free Hand Painter
Carver
Service Dog Trainer
She also holds a B.A. in Human Services . This is a picture of one of the "dorm rooms" where she currently resides with the general population.
7 Years denial
Katie was given a seven year denial yesterday.
That is the longest length of a denial ever handed down to any of the Manson family.
~ A few quotes from yesterdays hearing ~
"He sang to me and made love to me. I left everything and went with him. He seemed like the answer to my salvation." Katie
"If Patricia Krenwinkel had remorse, I don't see how she could walk into this room." No punishment could atone for the cold-blooded murders in this case." Anthony Di Maria Jay Sebring's nephew.
"If Krenwinkel was remorseful, she would waive her parole hearings and accept punishment." Patrick Sequeria L.A. Deputy District Attorney.
"People want to forget and forgive and I have not forgiven. I want them to have full lives in a controlled setting. I would never trust them in a free society." Debra Tate
What I would like to know is- where has this Anthony Di Maria been? I know he has not been attending ALL the hearings since day one. Maybe he was young at the time of the crimes and all but, I don't ever recall any one ever stepping in for Jay since the start. I do remember he came around quite recently. Didn't any one else from Jay's family give a shit before? I think that is kinda screwed up. All the previous years and hearings, where was Jay's family?
The link I quoted from:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/01/21/no-parole-manson-follower-krenwinkel/
That is the longest length of a denial ever handed down to any of the Manson family.
~ A few quotes from yesterdays hearing ~
"He sang to me and made love to me. I left everything and went with him. He seemed like the answer to my salvation." Katie
"If Patricia Krenwinkel had remorse, I don't see how she could walk into this room." No punishment could atone for the cold-blooded murders in this case." Anthony Di Maria Jay Sebring's nephew.
"If Krenwinkel was remorseful, she would waive her parole hearings and accept punishment." Patrick Sequeria L.A. Deputy District Attorney.
"People want to forget and forgive and I have not forgiven. I want them to have full lives in a controlled setting. I would never trust them in a free society." Debra Tate
What I would like to know is- where has this Anthony Di Maria been? I know he has not been attending ALL the hearings since day one. Maybe he was young at the time of the crimes and all but, I don't ever recall any one ever stepping in for Jay since the start. I do remember he came around quite recently. Didn't any one else from Jay's family give a shit before? I think that is kinda screwed up. All the previous years and hearings, where was Jay's family?
The link I quoted from:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/01/21/no-parole-manson-follower-krenwinkel/
Thursday, January 20, 2011
Pat's hearing??
Did anybody hear anything yet? Should I get the spare bedroom ready for her or what?
If anyone would like to write a book report/review
for us, please do. After reading Patty's, I know that is a book I would enjoy from cover to cover. This can be a real money saver for some people.
for us, please do. After reading Patty's, I know that is a book I would enjoy from cover to cover. This can be a real money saver for some people.
It totally sucks to spend money on a book you thought would be a good read. There have been several times I have spent $25.00 or more on a book that sucks. Also, there are quite a few books with just small snippets of M related stuff. I have Coroner by Thomas Noguchi which touches briefly on Sharon's autopsy. Why waste your money on it to just read one chapter? Like all the out of print books you can probably never get your hands on, and they only have a page or two you wanted to read.
Plus, there are so many books out related to the case on E-bay and places like that. A small review by someone else might be your deciding factor. I myself have always wondered how Simon Well's book-"Coming Down Fast" is. It is forever on E-bay for various prices. Does anyone have that book and would like to do a small report on it?
Or like I said-any one is welcomed to do any reviews/reports on any case related books. Somewhere I have a copy of one of Doris Day's
books. I will eventually get around to posting the part in which Doris spoke about her son Terry Melcher's involvement with the Family.
BOOK REPORT- "Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock-n-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood" by Michael Walker
n,Thanks to Panamint Patty for the book report. She is one brave lady who fears not~ the wrath of~Eviliz
ENJOY!
I humbly offer on the altar of Eviliz a book report on "Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock-n-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood" by Michael Walker (Faber & Faber Inc.)
Walker's excellent title is divided into two parts aptly
named "Jingle Jangle Mornings" and "Cocaine Afternoons".
The last chapter of the first part is simply called "1969" and is meant to delineate the first part from the second by discussing
three pivotal events which occurred that year: the Tate-LaBianca murders, Woodstock and Altamont. Miller argues that the events of 1969 changed life in the canyon forever, but also had far reaching implications for our culture at large.
The page count that specifically deals with Manson is 9 of 248,
though references to the Family can be found throughout. Those who were interviewed by the author include, Graham Nash, Frank Zappa's widow Gail, record executives Sally Stevens and Michael James Jackson, photographer David Strick and Troubador doorman Paul Body who claims to have gone to high school with Lulu:
"She was in my French class. Sweet little girl,
homecoming princess. We hung around the same sort of people. Then she got into the drug thing, then LSD, and that just ruined her. Then she hooks up with Manson and becomes totally different from anything I remember."
This chapter also claims that Charlie auditioned live for Neil Young and that the Family regularly hung out at Cass Elliot's
house on Woodrow Wilson. In fact, early rumors about who was responsible for the murders centered on an acquaintance of Elliot's,
"a drug dealer who had disappeared." As evidence that Charlie and his minions were firmly entrenched in Laurel Canyon at that time,
Gail Zappa states that:
"If you were surprised by the Manson murders,
then you were not connected to what was going on in the canyon.
I don't think that you could have necessarily predicted it, but those people were dangerous and everyone I know knew it."
Miller never does take a position on motive. He outlines the main theories that we are all familiar with: The "same old Helter Skelter" and/or rage at Terry Melcher and "the establishment" over being denied a record deal. What Miller does say however is that the ultimate impact of the Family and the murders on history may be taken as "evidence of the counterculture's internal rot." This laughable overgeneralization was necessary however in order for Miller to progress his book from part 1 to part 2: from the peaceful, loving hippie-dippie sixties to the spun out, smacked out, soulless seventies. There is no revelation here, but there are enough interesting tidbits to make the book a good read including discussions about where a lot of your favorite songs came from.
ENJOY!
I humbly offer on the altar of Eviliz a book report on "Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock-n-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood" by Michael Walker (Faber & Faber Inc.)
Walker's excellent title is divided into two parts aptly
named "Jingle Jangle Mornings" and "Cocaine Afternoons".
The last chapter of the first part is simply called "1969" and is meant to delineate the first part from the second by discussing
three pivotal events which occurred that year: the Tate-LaBianca murders, Woodstock and Altamont. Miller argues that the events of 1969 changed life in the canyon forever, but also had far reaching implications for our culture at large.
The page count that specifically deals with Manson is 9 of 248,
though references to the Family can be found throughout. Those who were interviewed by the author include, Graham Nash, Frank Zappa's widow Gail, record executives Sally Stevens and Michael James Jackson, photographer David Strick and Troubador doorman Paul Body who claims to have gone to high school with Lulu:
"She was in my French class. Sweet little girl,
homecoming princess. We hung around the same sort of people. Then she got into the drug thing, then LSD, and that just ruined her. Then she hooks up with Manson and becomes totally different from anything I remember."
This chapter also claims that Charlie auditioned live for Neil Young and that the Family regularly hung out at Cass Elliot's
house on Woodrow Wilson. In fact, early rumors about who was responsible for the murders centered on an acquaintance of Elliot's,
"a drug dealer who had disappeared." As evidence that Charlie and his minions were firmly entrenched in Laurel Canyon at that time,
Gail Zappa states that:
"If you were surprised by the Manson murders,
then you were not connected to what was going on in the canyon.
I don't think that you could have necessarily predicted it, but those people were dangerous and everyone I know knew it."
Miller never does take a position on motive. He outlines the main theories that we are all familiar with: The "same old Helter Skelter" and/or rage at Terry Melcher and "the establishment" over being denied a record deal. What Miller does say however is that the ultimate impact of the Family and the murders on history may be taken as "evidence of the counterculture's internal rot." This laughable overgeneralization was necessary however in order for Miller to progress his book from part 1 to part 2: from the peaceful, loving hippie-dippie sixties to the spun out, smacked out, soulless seventies. There is no revelation here, but there are enough interesting tidbits to make the book a good read including discussions about where a lot of your favorite songs came from.
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